• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 15:34
CEST 21:34
KST 04:34
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: In A Tizzy9[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Holy Diver5[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Rough Waters10[ASL22] Ro24 Preview: Siren's Call8[ASL22] Ro24 Preview: Summer's End9
Community News
Weekly Cups (Sep 13-20): herO scores triple1BSL Season 235Weekly Cups (Sep 7-12): SHIN, ByuN, MaxPax double down1StarCraft open world shooter announced at BlizzCon101Weekly Cups (Aug 30-Sep 7): herO thrives amid growing schism10
StarCraft 2
General
Blizzard Classic Cup @ BlizzCon 2026 - $100k prize pool Balance hotfix patch 5.0.16b (July 16) How do you feel about the StarCraft shooter announcement at BlizzCon 2026? The Death of Cheese: From a Professional Cheeser Weekly Cups (Sep 13-20): herO scores triple
Tourneys
Stellar Fest TWO the Moon (Dec 16-20) Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament 2026 GSTL Announcement RSL Revival: Season 6 - Qualifiers and Main Event RSL goes to London! 2026 Offline Finals Nov 21-22
Strategy
[H] ZvP Mid-Late Game: Stalkers Collossi HT
Custom Maps
Nexus Wars 2021 GUIDE [M] (2) Industrial Park
External Content
Mutation # 544 Double Trouble The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 543 Enhanced Defenses Mutation # 542 The Ascended
Brood War
General
screpdb: new Starcraft reporting tool Bot on ladder [ASL22] Ro8 Preview: In A Tizzy new ranked ladder hack? Guide To Watching Ancient Brood War Replays
Tourneys
[ASL22] Ro8 Day 2 [ASL22] Ro16 Group D [ASL22] Ro8 Day 1 [IPSL] IPSL is Back With Winter 26-27!
Strategy
Cliff Jump Revisited (1 in a 1000 strategy) Replay Review Process - What do you do? Simple Questions, Simple Answers Odyssey Mineral Stack Saturation
Other Games
General Games
Diablo IV Nintendo Switch Thread Warcraft III: The Frozen Throne Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread EVE Corporation
Dota 2
Dota 2 Champions League Season 3 Begins April 25! Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
[TL LoL EUW IHs] Teemo shall perish
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Artificial Intelligence Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine All you football fans (soccer)! Russo-Ukrainian War Thread
Fan Clubs
MarineLorD Fan Club The Creator Fan Club The ShoWTimE Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece Diablo Animated Series on Netflix
Sports
Football (Soccer) Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 MLB/Baseball 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
Recent Gifted Posts
Blogs
Gaming Intensity, Problemati…
TrAiDoS
38 yo Retired SWE loo…
PurE)Rabbit-SF
Can Bots Beat Pros?? Starcr…
namkraft
[meme] I finally understa…
LUCKY_NOOB
Regacy Esports:Our Goa…
regacyesports
Dreaming of BW patches (mod…
c3rberUs
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 8547 users

[!] A WARNING (Purge) - Page 2

Forum Index > StarCraft 2 Strategy
Post a Reply
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 19 20 21 Next All
Kinky
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States4126 Posts
April 08 2011 02:54 GMT
#21
On April 08 2011 11:36 Saracen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2011 11:35 redFF wrote:
Lol now im terrified to post in the strat forum.

Excellent

Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States14210 Posts
April 08 2011 02:57 GMT
#22
On April 08 2011 11:11 Saracen wrote:

[*]If your thread is about a new strategy and you do not have a damn good analysis (with replays) (i.e. I think your thread is too theorycrafty), you can play against me in a BO3 with your strategy. If you lose, you will be BANNED.
]


wow thats an epic rule sounds really really good and something I would watch
A wise man will say that he knows nothing. We're gona party like its 2752 Hail Dark Brandon
Whole
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States6046 Posts
April 08 2011 02:57 GMT
#23
On April 08 2011 11:52 jalstar wrote:
I completely disagree with macro being the only thing necessary to get to a high level.

Maybe in some matchups, but in volatile matchups like TvZ (both sides) only macroing and never looking at your army will get you a quick loss. Making the wrong unit comp will get you a quick loss. Not knowing the proper response to all common cheeses will get you many losses.

So my response to:

Show nested quote +
If I watch your replay and there are obvious flaws (macro, micro, etc.) in your game that contribute to your loss, you will be BANNED (Hint: read the Analyzing Replays thread and the How to Improve thread). Why? Because if you care enough about your gameplay to clutter up the Strategy Forum with another [H] thread, then you care enough to spend time by yourself to actually improve.


is that it takes time to improve macro and micro, and some people would actually like to win games while improving.


I think Saracen is talking about people who post about why they lost when it was obvious that they just A-Moved in a situation where they needed to micro or just got massively out-macroed and those factors were the reason of the loss.
Defeat
Profile Joined March 2010
United States476 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-08 03:00:58
April 08 2011 03:00 GMT
#24
Might I suggest another forum/subforum for people seeking help, sort of like how the Fan Clubs and User Streams are for the TL Community section. It would be used to post replays and ask what said person did wrong and other replay analysis.Then keep the strategy section purely for such threads as CecilSunkure's PvT 3 gate expo and others along those lines.
"the metagame has really evolved to the point where the best chance to win the metagame is to game the metagame" -Bags
Tennet
Profile Joined January 2010
United States1458 Posts
April 08 2011 03:00 GMT
#25
Awesome! Gonna be nice when the strategy forum can be read again.
"The harder it gets, the more you need to focus on the basics." - Seo Gyung Jong
Saracen
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States5139 Posts
April 08 2011 03:00 GMT
#26
On April 08 2011 12:00 Defeat wrote:
Might I suggest another forum/subforum for people seeking help. It would be used to post replays and ask what said person did wrong and other replay analysis.Then keep the strategy section purely for such threads as CecilSunkure's PvT 3 gate expo and others along those lines.

We're discussing it.
RAGEMOAR The Pope
Profile Joined February 2011
United States216 Posts
April 08 2011 03:08 GMT
#27
I think there's a balance issue with posters being too OP on this forum. Hopefully with the new patch the banhammer will cometh and bring the forum up to par.

Can't wait to see what the forum looks like after some purging. Keep up the good work admins.
MuteZephyr
Profile Joined August 2010
Lithuania448 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-08 03:12:48
April 08 2011 03:12 GMT
#28
On April 08 2011 11:11 Saracen wrote:
If your thread is about a new strategy and you do not have a damn good analysis (with replays) (i.e. I think your thread is too theorycrafty), you can play against me in a BO3 with your strategy. If you lose, you will be BANNED.


This is my favorite part :D
Will you please post the replays when you're done winning as a grim reminder to all aspiring challengers?

I'm happy to see these changes. I might visit the strategy forum for actual strategy now that it won't be littered with "you lost cuz *** is IMBA".

Thanks!
I don't Micro, I FEMTO. That's 9 orders of magnitude more extreme.
EtherealDeath
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States8366 Posts
April 08 2011 03:12 GMT
#29
Um... you said you are a lazy banling -_-;;

gl hf
AirbladeOrange
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2574 Posts
April 08 2011 03:15 GMT
#30
I like this initiative, thanks!
Mailing
Profile Joined March 2011
United States3087 Posts
April 08 2011 03:17 GMT
#31
If you sneeze while making a new topic, you will be BANNED.



Joking, Saracen.

I just read this forum and I know how hard modding it has been the last few months for you all.
Are you hurting ESPORTS? Find out today - http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=232866
michaelhasanalias
Profile Joined May 2010
Korea (South)1231 Posts
April 08 2011 03:19 GMT
#32
thank god.
KR NsPMichael.805 | AM Michael.2640 | SEA Michael.523 | 엔에스피 New Star Players
iamke55
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
United States2806 Posts
April 08 2011 03:20 GMT
#33
On April 08 2011 11:57 Whole wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2011 11:52 jalstar wrote:
I completely disagree with macro being the only thing necessary to get to a high level.

Maybe in some matchups, but in volatile matchups like TvZ (both sides) only macroing and never looking at your army will get you a quick loss. Making the wrong unit comp will get you a quick loss. Not knowing the proper response to all common cheeses will get you many losses.

So my response to:

If I watch your replay and there are obvious flaws (macro, micro, etc.) in your game that contribute to your loss, you will be BANNED (Hint: read the Analyzing Replays thread and the How to Improve thread). Why? Because if you care enough about your gameplay to clutter up the Strategy Forum with another [H] thread, then you care enough to spend time by yourself to actually improve.


is that it takes time to improve macro and micro, and some people would actually like to win games while improving.


I think Saracen is talking about people who post about why they lost when it was obvious that they just A-Moved in a situation where they needed to micro or just got massively out-macroed and those factors were the reason of the loss.


Saracen just wants more people to read Plexa's thread on how to analyze replays so they can help themselves and not clutter the forum. Too often there are [H] threads made here by frustrated/lazy people who refuse to do their own work analyzing games. Here is a typical template for such posts:

thread title: "[H]pvz is impossible"
thread content: "omg this matchup is driving me nuts how do you win??? I've tried everything but can never win! can you guys watch my replays? should I add more high templars and motherships???
link to replay 1 (replay shows the guy failing DT rush, then gets outmacro'd 2 base vs 5 base)
link to replay 2 (replay shows the guy floating 3000 minerals and getting crushed)
link to replay 3 (replay shows the guy doing some weird ass build he's clearly never practiced before, gets attacked and dies)
link to replay 4 (replay shows the guy failing an unoptimized 4 gate build because he used right click instead of attack move and lost all his units for nothing)
(all replays show him QQing about balance instead of saying gg at the end)"

I'm sure you've seen many threads like this before. It is apparent upon watching just one of their replays that they didn't watch their own replays even once, didn't look at the how to improve thread, didn't look at Plexa's analyzing replays thread, never looked up their build on liquidpedia, and most likely hasn't touched the strategy forum guidelines.
During practice session, I discovered very good build against zerg. -Bisu[Shield]
Chairman Ray
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States11903 Posts
April 08 2011 03:23 GMT
#34
On April 08 2011 11:11 Saracen wrote:
[*]If your thread is about a new strategy and you do not have a damn good analysis (with replays) (i.e. I think your thread is too theorycrafty), you can play against me in a BO3 with your strategy. If you lose, you will be BANNED.


Time to make a strategy forum topic:

[G]99 ways to make your opponent leave the game
whiterabb1t
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Belgium681 Posts
April 08 2011 03:24 GMT
#35
On April 08 2011 11:11 Saracen wrote:

[*]If your thread is about a new strategy and you do not have a damn good analysis (with replays) (i.e. I think your thread is too theorycrafty), you can play against me in a BO3 with your strategy. If you lose, you will be BANNED.


Just out of curiosity... what if I win/roflstomp you? Will you self BAN yourself or something?

I agree with this, strats have to be legit and tested and not lazy garbage.
DivinO
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States4796 Posts
April 08 2011 03:25 GMT
#36
Totally agree with the must read Cecil's thing first.

LiquipediaBrain in my filth.
Resistentialism
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada688 Posts
April 08 2011 03:37 GMT
#37
Please get someone to stream one or two theorycraft grudge matches that you think would be interesting
Kar98
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia924 Posts
April 08 2011 03:40 GMT
#38
Well I think I might just stick to lurking then
Antisocialmunky
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States5913 Posts
April 08 2011 03:44 GMT
#39
On April 08 2011 12:24 whiterabb1t wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2011 11:11 Saracen wrote:

[*]If your thread is about a new strategy and you do not have a damn good analysis (with replays) (i.e. I think your thread is too theorycrafty), you can play against me in a BO3 with your strategy. If you lose, you will be BANNED.


Just out of curiosity... what if I win/roflstomp you? Will you self BAN yourself or something?

I agree with this, strats have to be legit and tested and not lazy garbage.


Lol, as awesome that is, we don't want to be encouraging troll posts to get the mods to ban themselves.

However, I would support a tourney with mods vs noobs where loser is temp banned for a day.
[゚n゚] SSSSssssssSSsss ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Marine/Raven Guide:http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=163605
Zachatron
Profile Joined October 2010
United States33 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-08 04:15:57
April 08 2011 03:49 GMT
#40
As a relatively new participant of the TL community, this is quite intimidating! I really hope I don't screw up. Great rules though. They will hopefully help maintain a level of professionalism amongst the users, myself included. I particularly enjoy the part where you will be facing off against people who are theorycrafting without actual testing. =]

Edit: I've been watching the forums for about an hour now, and.. crudely put, you guys are really on top of this shit lol. I can't help but laugh when I see a thread pop up and immediately vanish because someone chose to ignore a [!] thread. If only the community would be more mindful and attentive. You gentlemen (and ladies??) really do have your work cut out for you.
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 19 20 21 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
WardiTV Invitational
16:00
Replay Cast Group A
TaKeTV 552
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
ProTech139
JuggernautJason100
SpeCial 74
BRAT_OK 58
MindelVK 24
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 17281
Larva 249
Rush 221
Dewaltoss 96
firebathero 83
Trap 34
Shinee 33
Terrorterran 10
Dota 2
qojqva3316
Counter-Strike
pashabiceps1410
Super Smash Bros
C9.Mang0149
Heroes of the Storm
Liquid`Hasu515
Other Games
summit1g5492
Grubby2864
Liquid`RaSZi2772
Beastyqt646
ceh9534
B2W.Neo206
TKL 153
ArmadaUGS123
Railgan20
ToD0
Organizations
Other Games
WardiTV1020
[ Show 12 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• FirePhoenix9
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• TFBlade545
Other Games
• imaqtpie594
• Shiphtur302
Upcoming Events
PiGosaur Cup
4h 26m
Kung Fu Cup
15h 26m
The PondCast
1d 14h
Replay Cast
2 days
Korean StarCraft League
3 days
CranKy Ducklings
3 days
GSL
4 days
Yamato Cup
4 days
Replay Cast
5 days
Afreeca Starleague
5 days
[ Show More ]
WardiTV Weekly
5 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
6 days
Afreeca Starleague
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Super Anchor Qualifying S3
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
Big Dog Cup 2026 Div 1

Ongoing

ASL Season 22
CSL 2026 AUTUMN (S22)
Acropolis #5
Acropolis #5 - GSA
Calamity Invitational
Logitech G Play Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #3
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026

Upcoming

Acropolis #5 - GSB
Acropolis #5 - GSC
BSL Season 23
SC4ALL II: Brood War
BSL 23: Non-Korean Championship
HSC XXX
Stellar Fest 2: Lunar Cup
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Offline Finals
Custodian Cup
Copium Cup
PGL Major Singapore 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 6
BLAST Rivals Fall 2026
IEM Beijing 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 5
PGL Masters Bucharest 2026
1win Private Club #2
Thunderpick World Champ. '26
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
1win Private Club #1
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.