Damn I can't wait so long for the movies to come out
If they stay true to the story this time and don't fuck things up with bad actors (*cough* Merrin and Pippin and Aragorn *cough*) this could turn out to be fantastic.
The Necromancer gets a speaking role? Wasn't he just referred to by Gandalf and people in the book, and never actually featured in the story? And wasn't the Necromancer actually Sauron?
On December 15 2004 17:00 Jim wrote: I dont really like the Lord of the Rings. The story is way to linear. The hobbit is the same. Peter Jacksons movie is better than the book but if the script is too lousy even the best of directors will fail(not saying that Peter Jackson is that great but he did quite well with this script).
Hollywood should look into more dynamic books with people who actually have some feelings. George Martin with a Song of Ice and Fire is an excellent example.
ps. If you know any good writers who write fantasy please post.
I'd support it but i sincerely doubt an Ice and Fire movie or series of movies would come close to capturing the perfection that the books possess
the fantasy genre is pretty laden with crap unfortunately. You won't find anything near as good as Song of Ice and Fire, and the distant seconds are talentless hacks who make it readily apparent as their respective series progress (terry pratchett, that fuckbrain who writes about rand althor or whoever)
your best bet is to just re-read Ice and Fire and pray George Martin actually gets the rest of the books out
Slightly off topic, but 6.5 years later, boy am I glad you were wrong about an adaptation of A Song of Ice and Fire. Fantasy adaptations don't have to be bad after all! Rejoice!
On June 26 2011 08:21 Thorakh wrote: Damn I can't wait so long for the movies to come out
If they stay true to the story this time and don't fuck things up with bad actors (*cough* Merrin and Pippin and Aragorn *cough*) this could turn out to be fantastic.
The Necromancer gets a speaking role? Wasn't he just referred to by Gandalf and people in the book, and never actually featured in the story? And wasn't the Necromancer actually Sauron?
On June 26 2011 08:21 Thorakh wrote: Damn I can't wait so long for the movies to come out
If they stay true to the story this time and don't fuck things up with bad actors (*cough* Merrin and Pippin and Aragorn *cough*) this could turn out to be fantastic.
The Necromancer gets a speaking role? Wasn't he just referred to by Gandalf and people in the book, and never actually featured in the story? And wasn't the Necromancer actually Sauron?
Yeah, the Necromancer was Sauron.
...Bad actors? How so, I thought they were great.
Aragorn was really bland and just mumbled the whole time and Merrin and Pippin made me want to stab my eyes out with their over the top bad acting.
On June 20 2011 13:12 Shai wrote: Call me anal, but I'm glad how many people are not calling the Hobbit a prequel (a prequel is a work made after the base work but occurring before). LotR is a sequel, and I'm excited to see the original work get its own big-budget adaption. Call me crazy but I loved the animated Hobbit, silly songs and all.
I love you.
I can't stand thinking about them bringing more attention to LotR. It's my childhood. I reread all four books every summer. It's something special to me and seeing half of it cut out in favor of a simplified hollywood story hurts me. The Hobbit will do nothing good for me.
But you just made me glad to have read this thread. That animated hobbit movie was so damn creepy and awesome. Oh, sweet childhood.
i'm halfway through the 2towers atm, it's at least the 5th time i'm reading the series. I can't tell you how many awesome things were left of the movies. like the entire end of return of the king + Show Spoiler +
when they're back in shire fighting saruman, and how pippin and merri were the tallest hobbits ever b/c they drank the ent water,
so much was left out...
the hobbit movie will indeed be epic if made correctly, if they decide to leave too much out i'll be mad but not surprised.
On June 20 2011 13:12 Shai wrote: Call me anal, but I'm glad how many people are not calling the Hobbit a prequel (a prequel is a work made after the base work but occurring before). LotR is a sequel, and I'm excited to see the original work get its own big-budget adaption. Call me crazy but I loved the animated Hobbit, silly songs and all.
I love you.
I can't stand thinking about them bringing more attention to LotR. It's my childhood. I reread all four books every summer. It's something special to me and seeing half of it cut out in favor of a simplified hollywood story hurts me. The Hobbit will do nothing good for me.
But you just made me glad to have read this thread. That animated hobbit movie was so damn creepy and awesome. Oh, sweet childhood.
i'm halfway through the 2towers atm, it's at least the 5th time i'm reading the series. I can't tell you how many awesome things were left of the movies. like the entire end of return of the king + Show Spoiler +
when they're back in shire fighting saruman, and how pippin and merri were the tallest hobbits ever b/c they drank the ent water,
so much was left out...
the hobbit movie will indeed be epic if made correctly, if they decide to leave too much out i'll be mad but not surprised.
They can't put it all in, if you can't appriciate that you HAVE to cut things out then just don't watch it.
On June 20 2011 13:12 Shai wrote: Call me anal, but I'm glad how many people are not calling the Hobbit a prequel (a prequel is a work made after the base work but occurring before). LotR is a sequel, and I'm excited to see the original work get its own big-budget adaption. Call me crazy but I loved the animated Hobbit, silly songs and all.
I love you.
I can't stand thinking about them bringing more attention to LotR. It's my childhood. I reread all four books every summer. It's something special to me and seeing half of it cut out in favor of a simplified hollywood story hurts me. The Hobbit will do nothing good for me.
But you just made me glad to have read this thread. That animated hobbit movie was so damn creepy and awesome. Oh, sweet childhood.
i'm halfway through the 2towers atm, it's at least the 5th time i'm reading the series. I can't tell you how many awesome things were left of the movies. like the entire end of return of the king + Show Spoiler +
when they're back in shire fighting saruman, and how pippin and merri were the tallest hobbits ever b/c they drank the ent water,
so much was left out...
the hobbit movie will indeed be epic if made correctly, if they decide to leave too much out i'll be mad but not surprised.
lol the 3 LotR movies were already massively long as it is. Adding on the Saruman part would have made Return of the King a 4.5 hour movie.
As much as it sucks, that's the thing with movie adaptations. You have to cut out some stuff because of time constraints.
On June 20 2011 13:12 Shai wrote: Call me anal, but I'm glad how many people are not calling the Hobbit a prequel (a prequel is a work made after the base work but occurring before). LotR is a sequel, and I'm excited to see the original work get its own big-budget adaption. Call me crazy but I loved the animated Hobbit, silly songs and all.
I love you.
I can't stand thinking about them bringing more attention to LotR. It's my childhood. I reread all four books every summer. It's something special to me and seeing half of it cut out in favor of a simplified hollywood story hurts me. The Hobbit will do nothing good for me.
But you just made me glad to have read this thread. That animated hobbit movie was so damn creepy and awesome. Oh, sweet childhood.
i'm halfway through the 2towers atm, it's at least the 5th time i'm reading the series. I can't tell you how many awesome things were left of the movies. like the entire end of return of the king + Show Spoiler +
when they're back in shire fighting saruman, and how pippin and merri were the tallest hobbits ever b/c they drank the ent water,
so much was left out...
the hobbit movie will indeed be epic if made correctly, if they decide to leave too much out i'll be mad but not surprised.
Most disappointing to me was that they never showed the death of Saruman in Hobbiton. Instead I think they made him fall off Orshank or something in one of deleted scenes?
Its too bad they spent half of each movie zooming in on people's faces and having terrible/awkward conversations then actually telling the story and making the movies good
On June 20 2011 13:12 Shai wrote: Call me anal, but I'm glad how many people are not calling the Hobbit a prequel (a prequel is a work made after the base work but occurring before). LotR is a sequel, and I'm excited to see the original work get its own big-budget adaption. Call me crazy but I loved the animated Hobbit, silly songs and all.
I love you.
I can't stand thinking about them bringing more attention to LotR. It's my childhood. I reread all four books every summer. It's something special to me and seeing half of it cut out in favor of a simplified hollywood story hurts me. The Hobbit will do nothing good for me.
But you just made me glad to have read this thread. That animated hobbit movie was so damn creepy and awesome. Oh, sweet childhood.
i'm halfway through the 2towers atm, it's at least the 5th time i'm reading the series. I can't tell you how many awesome things were left of the movies. like the entire end of return of the king + Show Spoiler +
when they're back in shire fighting saruman, and how pippin and merri were the tallest hobbits ever b/c they drank the ent water,
so much was left out...
the hobbit movie will indeed be epic if made correctly, if they decide to leave too much out i'll be mad but not surprised.
lol the 3 LotR movies were already massively long as it is. Adding on the Saruman part would have made Return of the King a 4.5 hour movie.
As much as it sucks, that's the thing with movie adaptations. You have to cut out some stuff because of time constraints.
I might buy that explanation if it weren't for all the extra scenes they put in (especially in The Two Towers). They added a lot of their own stuff that was not very good, and took out some really good parts.
No, please don't do it....I love all of Tolkien's middle earth books. Read the books and leave the Author's world and characters unmolested. Very little makes me more sad than hearing a discussion about Tolkien's ring stories and subsequently realizing they know only Peter Jackson's stories. Peter Jackson's stories would have been forgotten 2 years after their writing if they were even published. Using Tolkien's famous story names and character names with a new story and new character traits has ruined some of the greatest literature of the 20th century for generations to come who will never pick up the true books.
when they're back in shire fighting saruman, and how pippin and merri were the tallest hobbits ever b/c they drank the ent water
Actually in the extended cut of it they referenced it with them drinking the ent Drought and had Treebeard read Bombadil's passage to let them go and put old man willow to sleep.
On June 26 2011 09:12 pi_rate_pir_ate wrote: No, please don't do it....I love all of Tolkien's middle earth books. Read the books and leave the Author's world and characters unmolested. Very little makes me more sad than hearing a discussion about Tolkien's ring stories and subsequently realizing they know only Peter Jackson's stories. Peter Jackson's stories would have been forgotten 2 years after their writing if they were even published. Using Tolkien's famous story names and character names with a new story and new character traits has ruined some of the greatest literature of the 20th century for generations to come who will never pick up the true books.
More people will read the books now than if the movies were never made.
On June 20 2011 13:12 Shai wrote: Call me anal, but I'm glad how many people are not calling the Hobbit a prequel (a prequel is a work made after the base work but occurring before). LotR is a sequel, and I'm excited to see the original work get its own big-budget adaption. Call me crazy but I loved the animated Hobbit, silly songs and all.
I love you.
I can't stand thinking about them bringing more attention to LotR. It's my childhood. I reread all four books every summer. It's something special to me and seeing half of it cut out in favor of a simplified hollywood story hurts me. The Hobbit will do nothing good for me.
But you just made me glad to have read this thread. That animated hobbit movie was so damn creepy and awesome. Oh, sweet childhood.
i'm halfway through the 2towers atm, it's at least the 5th time i'm reading the series. I can't tell you how many awesome things were left of the movies. like the entire end of return of the king + Show Spoiler +
when they're back in shire fighting saruman, and how pippin and merri were the tallest hobbits ever b/c they drank the ent water,
so much was left out...
the hobbit movie will indeed be epic if made correctly, if they decide to leave too much out i'll be mad but not surprised.
lol the 3 LotR movies were already massively long as it is. Adding on the Saruman part would have made Return of the King a 4.5 hour movie.
As much as it sucks, that's the thing with movie adaptations. You have to cut out some stuff because of time constraints.
I would've gone for that. I've been noticing a lot of 4 star classic black and white movies that are like 4 hours long. I know they wouldn't get all the kids going in droves to see it but it might do the book more justice. Long movies have been done before and have succeeded
On June 26 2011 09:12 pi_rate_pir_ate wrote: No, please don't do it....I love all of Tolkien's middle earth books. Read the books and leave the Author's world and characters unmolested. Very little makes me more sad than hearing a discussion about Tolkien's ring stories and subsequently realizing they know only Peter Jackson's stories. Peter Jackson's stories would have been forgotten 2 years after their writing if they were even published. Using Tolkien's famous story names and character names with a new story and new character traits has ruined some of the greatest literature of the 20th century for generations to come who will never pick up the true books.
What kind of bullshit is this, after i saw the movies in cinema 8-10 years ago i now, i eargerly bought silmarilion, The Hobbit and Lotr 1-3 books right after in the book shop and got myself reading them because i simply love the writing and i wanted to read all the small details PJ had not included in the movies, i read the hobbit 8 years ago when i was only 13 and i've just read through the 2 towers for the 2nd time and now on my way to enjoy return of the king.
And how the hell do you know if PJ wrote a book it would be forgotten 2 years after. What a disgrace you are of a fan of tolkiens world.
On June 27 2011 20:32 SpeCiaL.. wrote: honestly peter jackson will probably massacre the hobbit the same way as he massacred the LOTR trilogy, the only good one from that was the 1st movie.
I did like all of them, but I have to agree, only the first was good, TT and RotK were way too focused on the massive battles at the expense of the story :/