Caster thoughts, unprofessional? - Page 4

On March 27 2011 08:33 fire_brand wrote:
I think the Korea vs Foreigners thing is the biggest storyline of the tournament, and I have no problem with his emphasis on this. Commentators jobs are to make the game as exciting as possible and I think that a lot of that excitement comes from the David vs Goliath thing. The Koreans are the Goliaths and the foreigners are the Davids and focusing on this a technique by the casters to pump of the fans. I have no problem with this, he's doing his job, and his excitement I'm sure transfers a lot over to the fans.

I think chill did a great job. But you know, haters gonna hate.

On March 27 2011 08:33 HolyArrow wrote:


I don't know about you, but it feels slightly dirty when the conditions were as they were.

It's like if you had a boxing champion who usually owns it up all the time, and some underdog who usually loses to the champion. One day they have a showmatch, but the champion is sick or something and loses. Then all the fans of the underdog praise him when he wins, saying, "Oh wow, he did so well against the champion!"

Doesn't that feel wrong? It sure does to me. I know for sure that when I'm playing something competitively and I win under unfair conditions and everyone blindly compliments me, I feel a bit dirty and kind of annoyed at the shortsightedness of people. For instance, back when I played badminton competitively, I beat one of the best players on my team even though she was kind of sick and had a wrist injury. People were like, "Wow dude you're so good!" and were talking about how much better player I had become, but I knew that I only won because of the unfair conditions, and I felt pretty annoyed at all the people simply jumping to conclusions without looking at the situation objectively.

That's just how I am, and I'm pretty sure that people with a similar mentality to mine see this situation in a similar light.

On March 27 2011 08:33 HolyArrow wrote:


I don't know about you, but it feels slightly dirty when the conditions were as they were.

It's like if you had a boxing champion who usually owns it up all the time, and some underdog who usually loses to the champion. One day they have a showmatch, but the champion is sick or something and loses. Then all the fans of the underdog praise him when he wins, saying, "Oh wow, he did so well against the champion!"

Doesn't that feel wrong? It sure does to me. I know for sure that when I'm playing something competitively and I win under unfair conditions and everyone blindly compliments me, I feel a bit dirty and kind of annoyed at the shortsightedness of people. For instance, back when I played badminton competitively, I beat one of the best players on my team even though she was kind of sick and had a wrist injury. People were like, "Wow dude you're so good!" and were talking about how much better player I had become, but I knew that I only won because of the unfair conditions, and I felt pretty annoyed at all the people simply jumping to conclusions without looking at the situation objectively.

That's just how I am, and I'm pretty sure that people with a similar mentality to mine see this situation in a similar light.

On March 27 2011 08:44 Wohmfg wrote:


Because lag only affects Koreans.

On March 27 2011 08:48 intergalactic wrote:


What? Are you referring to lag? You are comparing two extremely different situations and rationalizing subjectively.
1- Two people competing in a sport, one of them is sick and the other wins.
2- Two people playing online game, one of them has 0.3 sec delay more than the other. They were alternating servers so the delay advantage is split. The underdogs wins with convincing 2-0 macro games, where micro wasn't a deciding factor.

How is this even comparable? Why do you feel you need to defend the koreans' disadvantage, when even they don't feel the need to defend themselves?

On March 27 2011 08:55 Black Gun wrote:
i didnt get annoyed by chills emphasis on this theme, but i think many ppl are overestimating the significance of todays results. most well-known foreigners have played hundreds of games in various smaller foreigner events like craftcups. if a korean would be willing to prepare perfectly for his foreigner opponent, he could easily find more material about him than the foreigner could find about the korean.

that the koreans seemed unprepared for the style of play they were facing to me shows that they didnt give their best in preparing for the tsl games, either because of a conscious decision about their priorities or because of arrogance, who knows. additionally, they were probably more affected by lag than the europeans. but, as has been pointed out before, this is no excuse for the high amount of really bad decisions they´ve made today.

On March 27 2011 08:56 Sylverin wrote:
Without bothering to quote Incontrol, what he said. <3
You(OP)are not a hater you are a fan with slightly above average love. :D

Having very little scbw watching myself, (watched mainly Wc3) I think what he did is absolutely great. Chill and husky did their jobs with superb excitement and enthusiasm. This mentioning of "Foreigner vs Korea" is the history of starcraft. To not explain it would be a disservice to our sport. If the lag was truly an issue the gamers themselves will make a post and make it public that they thought they lost due to lag. Reguardless all of this including my own post are opinions and as we all know opinions are like assholes everyone has one and they all smell

Their job is not to say "He is making 10 banelings, will it work?" its to say "HE IS MAKING 10 BANELINGS THE MARINES ARE COMING UP THE RAMP OMG THEY ARE ALL DEADDDD WILL HE WINNNNN!?!?!?!?!?!?"

TL/dr: commentator's jobs are one of two things They are HYPE they make everything said, done, and felt in a game come alive. The second thing is that they bring things that casual observers wouldn't see because they lack experience with the game I.E. A football commentator explaining how a certain rule works.

On March 27 2011 09:01 dAPhREAk wrote:
what is wrong with the casters creating a rivalry between koreans and foreigners? it makes it more enjoyable and intense even though the players themselves may not think of it as a rivalry. its not like they were completely biased in favor of foreigners. a lot of korean players are hyped a lot and people want to see them play. also, there is a korean stream for TSL. are you saying that they shouldn't hype for korean players? seems a little ridiculous to me. just reporting whats happening on the stream is kinda boring. hype the players, create some rivalries and make the streams entertaining.