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So I'm slightly confused as to why Zerg doesn't have to upgrade fungal growth, and Protoss has to upgrade storm. In my eyes, they are very similar abilities, and thus should be treated equally.
Psi Storm deals 80 damage over 4 seconds.
Fungal Growth deals 36 damage over 8 seconds.
Storm is clearly the stronger ability in terms of raw damage, yet because fungal growth holds the unit(s) in place, they are susceptible to damage dealt from other units, thus making up the difference in damage when compared to storm. Most people, when stormed, move their units asap, so that the overall damage dealt is not the full 80. Many times it is anticipated and ends up dealing little to no damage at all, or at least only a couple of seconds worth.
So I guess what I'm asking is, does it make sense that Fungal Growth is a free ability, and Psi Storm is 200/200?
I think if storm was also free, then you would see more people teching to High Templars rather than Collossus all of the time. Or at least be fair, and have zerg upgrade Fungal Growth.
Your thoughts?
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The two abilities can't be compared due to being used by different races.
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Ok but as long as feedback is trainable only. O yeah, and snipe, EMP, forcefield, guardian shield, mass recall and vortex.
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But HTs aren't so big and snipable like the infestor. It's how the race plays.
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probably because fungal does half storms damage in twice the time for the same energy cost. fungal also doesnt have the harassment effect that storms do, takes 2 secs to kill workers with storm, around 10 with fungal
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every higher tier caster has 1 upgradeable ability, HSM storm and NP, storm is by far the best. but they used to have NP as a non upgradeable ability and that was just a bad time to be protoss. so theyre not going to make infesters have 2 upgradable abilities.
comparing storm to fungal isnt logical. they are two completely different races. if storm was free it would be overpowered. storm is one of the best abilities in the game by far. its so good that IT NEEDS to have a huge tech path/cost to get to or else it would be rediculous and youre right, we would probably never see colossus. Ever.
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I don't think it's fair to do such a straight up comparison. Oh fungal growth and psi storm have a few similar properties, therefore they should be equal in power/cost ratio. Rather you should be comparing how those spells compliment that race and how essential they are.
It's like saying WOW terran imba they get scans mules and supply drops and toss only gets chronoboost. Well yea, scans + mules + supply drop > chronoboost but you can't really compare them like that.
Overall, I'm fine with both spells the way they are. If anything, buff both to discourage terran mass marine/maurader every freaken game >_>
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I agree, Infestors should have to upgrade fungal growth. Also, hydras should be able to upgrade blink. Fair trade in my opinion.
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On February 06 2011 16:59 tuestresfat wrote:
I don't think it's fair to do such a straight up comparison. Oh fungal growth and psi storm have a few similar properties, therefore they should be equal in power/cost ratio. Rather you should be comparing how those spells compliment that race and how essential they are.
It's like saying WOW terran imba they get scans mules and supply drops and toss only gets chronoboost. Well yea, scans + mules + supply drop > chronoboost but you can't really compare them like that.
Overall, I'm fine with both spells the way they are. If anything, buff both to discourage terran mass marine/maurader every freaken game >_>
Storm does NOT need buffing...making it a smartcast spell was a horrible idea.
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How could you possibly complain about storm? Ridiculous OP
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On February 06 2011 17:04 LilClinkin wrote:Show nested quote +On February 06 2011 16:59 tuestresfat wrote:
I don't think it's fair to do such a straight up comparison. Oh fungal growth and psi storm have a few similar properties, therefore they should be equal in power/cost ratio. Rather you should be comparing how those spells compliment that race and how essential they are.
It's like saying WOW terran imba they get scans mules and supply drops and toss only gets chronoboost. Well yea, scans + mules + supply drop > chronoboost but you can't really compare them like that.
Overall, I'm fine with both spells the way they are. If anything, buff both to discourage terran mass marine/maurader every freaken game >_> Storm does NOT need buffing...making it a smartcast spell was a horrible idea.
i was semi-trolling when i said that :D yea i'm fine with storm the way it is.
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