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MarineKingPrime.WE interview at thisisgame.com
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nokz88
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dunc
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I hope he wins GSL! Love how he has no ego despite all his very strong showings and isn't afraid to give another Terran credit. | ||
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Turgid
United States1623 Posts
funny guy :D Thank you! | ||
Antoine
United States7481 Posts
I'm very much looking forward to if he can pull off the BC-centered play! | ||
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NuKedUFirst
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wozjflwnl
Canada344 Posts
Yey looking forward to his mech and lol choosing terran without much thought. | ||
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sqrt
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Also, big thanks for the translation. | ||
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lindn
Sweden833 Posts
On January 16 2011 13:17 nokz88 wrote: Don't you feel sorry for the banelings? Your marine micro is mean. My hatred for them is way greater than my compassion. Banelings are every Terran's worst enemy. I love this guy <3 | ||
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vectorix108
United States4633 Posts
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rysecake
United States2632 Posts
On January 16 2011 13:28 sqrt wrote: Respect to our Korean pimp, if he masters other units (like tanks for example) as well as marines he could become the first bonjwa. GL in GSL January MK! Also, big thanks for the translation. MK is so beast. Wish I could pull off a 6 way marine split within seconds. Although, I do think like him that MVP is at the top. That guy definitely looks bonjwa material. And while we're talking about bonjwas, notice that MVP (who according to Foxer is at the top) is best known for taking 1 game off Flash in a bo5. Holy..! Can't wait for someone like Flash to switch over. | ||
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SeeDLiNg
United States690 Posts
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Imbu
United States903 Posts
He definitely does have the skill to become the GSL champion, and no one could really say he would have had an easy time getting there. | ||
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Alou
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dunc
Netherlands1105 Posts
im hoping he'll do it again in the finals but this time beat him! | ||
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myrmidon2537
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imyzhang
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Klamity
United States994 Posts
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1Eris1
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Wolf
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netherDrake
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.Aar
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AND DID I JUST READ BATTLECRUISERS | ||
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nokz88
Brazil1253 Posts
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Darpa
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dunc
Netherlands1105 Posts
The answer was that koreans have a lot of respect for their parents, because their parents are mainly the reason they are there by supporting the player and encouraging him to pursue the pro gaming career. | ||
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imperfek
Australia160 Posts
this is prob one of the best SC2 interviews i ever read. it made me into an even bigger fan now. i hope Marineking does well in gsl4 so we can have more interviews :3 | ||
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rysecake
United States2632 Posts
On January 16 2011 13:55 Darpa wrote: Anyone familiar with korean culture? why do they always give their money to their parents? seems odd from my perspective. Can anyone enlightmen me? It's not only Koreans, but alot of Asian cultures in general. It's a sign of respect. Your parents gave you their time and cash to raise you. Only makes sense to return the favor. Either way, when they pass, that money is inherited by you again, so you get it back. | ||
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Holgerius
Sweden16951 Posts
 Thanks a bunch! | ||
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thoradycus
Malaysia3262 Posts
On January 16 2011 13:57 rysecake wrote: It's not only Koreans, but alot of Asian cultures in general. It's a sign of respect. Your parents gave you their time and cash to raise you. Only makes sense to return the favor. Either way, when they pass, that money is inherited by you again, so you get it back. This.Its a form of a payback/thank you for raising the child (Im asian) | ||
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zimz
United States510 Posts
On January 16 2011 13:55 Darpa wrote: Anyone familiar with korean culture? why do they always give their money to their parents? seems odd from my perspective. Can anyone enlightmen me? Confucius Asian culture. very common | ||
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Lexvink
Canada310 Posts
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Froadac
United States6733 Posts
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Cush
United States646 Posts
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LoLAdriankat
United States4307 Posts
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ShyRamen
United States322 Posts
by the way, if i remember correctly, manhwas are korean mangas. | ||
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starfries
Canada3508 Posts
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x-Catalyst
United States921 Posts
He seems like a funny guy, and his doesn't have a big ego at all and is quite humble. Another reason why I <3 him  | ||
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HunterStarcraft
Canada249 Posts
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sqrt
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On January 16 2011 13:58 thoradycus wrote: This.Its a form of a payback/thank you for raising the child (Im asian) Seriously, this isn't an Asian thing. Eastern Europe has similar stuff going on. You are expected to take care of your parents when they reach old age, if you win prize money, unless you are some gigantic a***** you are expected to share with your family. Not to start a fire here, but I think NOT doing stuff like that is something only U.S./Western Europe does. | ||
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SolidusR
United States217 Posts
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dcberkeley
Canada844 Posts
On January 16 2011 14:23 sqrt wrote: Seriously, this isn't an Asian thing. Eastern Europe has similar stuff going on. You are expected to take care of your parents when they reach old age, if you win prize money, unless you are some gigantic a***** you are expected to share with your family. Not to start a fire here, but I think NOT doing stuff like that is something only U.S./Western Europe does. I also think that if you're a progamer you're either young or busy and your parents are like your pseudo managers. Your parents aren't gonna go on spending sprees, they'll probably invest it for you or hold onto it for you. God knows you wouldn't do the investing yourself practicing 10 hours a day as a kid. | ||
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Immanency
United States82 Posts
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SaikOuLighT
Canada742 Posts
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dunc
Netherlands1105 Posts
On January 16 2011 14:29 KingSC wrote: Yeah, all right, he's funny, but he's what every player complains about. Him and people like him. I like him personally, not his style at all. How is this? He doesn't all-in and he doesn't cheese. Something I missed recently? | ||
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Farkinator
United States283 Posts
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nokz88
Brazil1253 Posts
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dunc
Netherlands1105 Posts
On January 16 2011 14:39 nokz88 wrote: interview now complete, enjoy! Sorry for the delay... Thanks a lot for translating all of it! | ||
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bearhug
United States999 Posts
On January 16 2011 14:23 sqrt wrote: Seriously, this isn't an Asian thing. Eastern Europe has similar stuff going on. You are expected to take care of your parents when they reach old age, if you win prize money, unless you are some gigantic a***** you are expected to share with your family. Not to start a fire here, but I think NOT doing stuff like that is something only U.S./Western Europe does. also, in east asia parents usually save money to buy houses, if they can afford, for their children when they grow up and get married. so basically a large portion of the money parents saved in their entire life is spent on their children. for a young kid like mkp it's also a good way of managing the prize money by putting it under the control of his parents. imagine what a 17 year old young man in us will do with some $30,000 easy money..... | ||
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nihoh
Australia978 Posts
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bearhug
United States999 Posts
On January 16 2011 14:43 nihoh wrote: "Giving to parents" isn't "giving" in the Western sense where it's "Yo, here's 30K". It's more like "Hold on to this shit for me, if not I don't now where I'll blow it." rofl. totally agree. | ||
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DisaFear
Australia4074 Posts
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Deleted User 108965
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mprs
Canada2933 Posts
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nokz88
Brazil1253 Posts
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rysecake
United States2632 Posts
On January 16 2011 14:57 mprs wrote: is this the interview where MKP mentions jinro as a top terran or something? A question about the best of each race or something Read it, he clearly states MVP is the best. | ||
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mprs
Canada2933 Posts
On January 16 2011 15:01 nokz88 wrote: Well, I double checked the original interview just to be sure, but there's no mention of Jinro. You must have read another interview of his. Yeah I checked this and the post-game interview in the community news and it wasn't there. Maybe it was by a different player?  | ||
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bearhug
United States999 Posts
On January 16 2011 15:02 mprs wrote: Yeah I checked this and the post-game interview in the community news and it wasn't there. Maybe it was by a different player? i guess Mkp hasn't played many games with jinro yet. atm he has very little to say about jinro. | ||
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McDonalds
Liechtenstein2244 Posts
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ranjutan
United States636 Posts
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dunc
Netherlands1105 Posts
On January 16 2011 15:07 bearhug wrote: i guess Mkp hasn't played many games with jinro yet. atm he has very little to say about jinro. He actually said in his interview with Artosis that he thought Jinro was a very good player and had really good micro. | ||
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MahatmaSC2
United States192 Posts
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Zlasher
United States9129 Posts
thanks | ||
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pyro19
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Spell_Crafted
United States192 Posts
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KevinIX
United States2472 Posts
And it is true, banelings are the bane of my life. | ||
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mango_destroyer
Canada3914 Posts
Edit - OH and thanks for translating, good job. | ||
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Taffye
United States20 Posts
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dunc
Netherlands1105 Posts
On January 16 2011 16:41 Taffye wrote: who is cocoshoo? On January 16 2011 13:17 nokz88 wrote: * Cocoshoo is the girl who draws daily recap comics in the official GSL site. Her recaps can be found here | ||
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BenKen
United States860 Posts
On January 16 2011 14:34 Farkinator wrote: As much as I hate the guy for only wining with marines, he just can't give me a real reason to hate him. Great interview, MKP is very composed and seems like a really nice guy! Ha, I feel the same way, although I think I'm getting over the hate for his marine-only play-style. If I had control like him, I'd build as many marines as I could too. | ||
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Ryalnos
United States1946 Posts
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Frugalicious
United States121 Posts
On January 16 2011 16:06 pyro19 wrote: I think Manhwa stands for Korean Comics , like japanese manga. Mahnwa is the same as manga in Japanese and "mahnwa" is exactly how you say it in Chinese (Cantonese). It doesn't specify a nation. The Korean language borrows some words from Chinese so there are similarities. | ||
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starfries
Canada3508 Posts
On January 16 2011 16:47 BenKen wrote: Ha, I feel the same way, although I think I'm getting over the hate for his marine-only play-style. If I had control like him, I'd build as many marines as I could too. I really like his style, because it's so different. I think he's a lot better than he's letting on, or has the potential to be. He's not really going marines because he doesn't know how to use anything else, he's one of those players that is good enough that he CAN go marines and still win. Once he starts branching out, I expect him to really start destroying people. | ||
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kvn4444
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nayumi
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MrCon
France29748 Posts
Lot of funny answers, and some good ones too. He seems very lucid about his play, his answer about MVP having a more stable vZ is spot on. He is very young iirc, but he shows maturity in thisitw. | ||
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dunc
Netherlands1105 Posts
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MetalSlug
Germany443 Posts
On January 16 2011 13:17 nokz88 wrote: * Cocoshoo is the girl who draws daily recap comics in the official GSL site. Her recaps can be found here Wow some of these are really cool, wish someone would translate them. This one is about Jinro ! + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://pds22.egloos.com/pds/201101/16/85/c0053385_4d3213187575b.jpg) ![[image loading]](http://pds22.egloos.com/pds/201101/16/85/c0053385_4d3213193e6af.jpg) ![[image loading]](http://pds22.egloos.com/pds/201101/16/85/c0053385_4d321317f029e.jpg) | ||
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Sniffy
Australia290 Posts
On January 16 2011 17:09 starfries wrote: I really like his style, because it's so different. I think he's a lot better than he's letting on, or has the potential to be. LOL Not to be a jerk but what exactly is different and likable about making nothing but a 50 mineral unit | ||
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FlamingTurd
United States1059 Posts
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bearhug
United States999 Posts
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Aetherial
Australia917 Posts
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mavyric
Taiwan104 Posts
On January 16 2011 17:51 Sniffy wrote: LOL Not to be a jerk but what exactly is different and likable about making nothing but a 50 mineral unit Because he actually has the talent to use a 50 mineral unit to beat other top players in the world. You try it. MKP overall knows exactly what he is doing. He knows that eventually marines are going to be insufficient so he is branching out, I've no doubt he will continue to do good in the future. And good shoutout to Mvp.A good player should know when someone else is more solid or more well-rounded. | ||
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bearhug
United States999 Posts
On January 16 2011 17:46 MetalSlug wrote: Wow some of these are really cool, wish someone would translate them. This one is about Jinro ! + Show Spoiler + awesome. can someone translate>? | ||
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starfries
Canada3508 Posts
On January 16 2011 17:51 Sniffy wrote: LOL Not to be a jerk but what exactly is different and likable about making nothing but a 50 mineral unit Others don't play this way, therefore it's different. And it takes a lot of skill to win this way - if it was easier than playing standard, you'd see a lot more people do this. Foxer is one of the few people who can pull it off. Not to mention his first game in the GSL was a nuke rush. That was pretty baller | ||
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Kazzabiss
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weiliem
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syllogism
Finland5948 Posts
On January 16 2011 18:52 Kazzabiss wrote: Marineking is right now the highest on the ELO rank, and has the highest ELO peak ever, AND is on a 10 win streak. It might be just that people ignore team league results (MKP has a reverse all-kill on oGs, a 3-0 in the same tourney, and an all-kill in the Gisado race v race tourney) but I think MVP is a little over hyped, plus MKP got to the Finals... MVP did not. A tleast most people will agree that they are both 1 and 2. NEXPuzzle all-killed oGs too (ensnare,mc,cezanne + someone), though they seemed to be offracing so maybe they dont take it very seriously | ||
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haflo
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here - http://esports.gomtv.com/gsl/community/view.gom?msgid=6263&c=cocoshoo&p=1. scroll way down . thank you , i find it quite interesting to see what the korean reaction to the awesome gorilla teran | ||
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jcm3
United States30 Posts
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Sniffy
Australia290 Posts
On January 16 2011 18:41 starfries wrote: And it takes a lot of skill to win this way - if it was easier than playing standard, you'd see a lot more people do this. Foxer is one of the few people who can pull it off. Ending the game with SCVs and marines isnt a show of skill. Its what people do to hide their lack of skill. If you were a progamer who practiced the ins and outs of the game everyday and were actually good, why would you want to play like that? The point of playing standard macro games is that you are given more opportunities to outplay your opponent. Why do you think people would prefer to throw marines and scvs at Idra rather outplay and make better decisions than him? Because theyre worse than him and they know it. Jinro plays standard because Jinro doesnt need to rely on 5 minute gimmicks to beat Idra. Stop trying to justify this terrible way of playing. The fact that Foxer was almost crowned the best SC2 player in the world a few months ago is nothing short of a joke. If hes trying to branch out and actually play good games, then good for him. | ||
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bearhug
United States999 Posts
On January 16 2011 19:49 Sniffy wrote: Ending the game with SCVs and marines isnt a show of skill. Its what people do to hide their lack of skill. If you were a progamer who practiced the ins and outs of the game everyday, why would you want to play like that? The point of playing standard macro games is that you are given more opportunities to outplay your opponent. Why do you think people would prefer to throw marines and scvs at Idra rather outplay and make better decisions than him? Because theyre worse than him and they know it. Jinro plays standard because Jinro doesnt need to rely on 5 minute gimmicks to beat Idra. Stop trying to justify this terrible way of playing. The fact that Foxer was almost crowned the best SC2 player in the world a few months ago is nothing short of a joke. MKP hater warning. Haters blame MKP for not playing macro game, ignoring the fact that he always expand ahead of his opponents and have more SCVs more supplies than his opponents. Haters blame MKP for using SCVs to defend, ignoring the fact that both Jinro and MKP defended with SCVs at the end of the game. Another proof that: haters will never stop hating no matter what. | ||
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Sniffy
Australia290 Posts
On January 16 2011 20:02 bearhug wrote: MKP hater warning. Haters blame MKP for using SCVs to defend, ignoring the fact that both Jinro and MKP defended with SCVs at the end of the game. Another proof that: haters will never stop hating no matter what. What a stupid post. I'm hating on his play in previous seasons. If hes actually trying to branch out then cool. If he wins while doing it, good for him, he's a good player. And i was actually referring to him pulling scvs for offensive purposes, quite often. | ||
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sqrt
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On January 16 2011 19:49 Sniffy wrote: Ending the game with SCVs and marines isnt a show of skill. Its what people do to hide their lack of skill. If you were a progamer who practiced the ins and outs of the game everyday, why would you want to play like that? The point of playing standard macro games is that you are given more opportunities to outplay your opponent. Why do you think people would prefer to throw marines and scvs at Idra rather outplay and make better decisions than him? Because theyre worse than him and they know it. Jinro plays standard because Jinro doesnt need to rely on 5 minute gimmicks to beat Idra. Stop trying to justify this terrible way of playing. The fact that Foxer was almost crowned the best SC2 player in the world a few months ago is nothing short of a joke. The ****? Few things: 1. MarineKing hasn't used this since GSL2, GSL3 he mixed Marines/Marauders and pushed for a longer game. And when MK did it was fresh and impressive. 2. He didn't use only that in GSL 2 either, he sometimes banked on 2 base marine play (the game on Shakuras Plato vs Zerg). 3. The last game he played he went for a tank push into marine drop vs Jinro. 4. The dude is playing a solid 2 base game, all-iners don't do that. 5. He held an all-in after FE... how the hell do you do that? Seriously, don't hate on the guy just because he popularized a strategy (then again you guys hated on  iloveoov, so meh...) | ||
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bearhug
United States999 Posts
On January 16 2011 20:05 Sniffy wrote: What a stupid post. I'm hating on his play in previous seasons. If hes actually trying to branch out then cool. If he wins while doing it, good for him, he's a good player. And i was actually referring to him pulling scvs for offensive purposes, quite often. Yeah? If you have ''more skills'', how could you get defeated constantly by the "lack of skills" player like, as you said, MKP? | ||
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Aragos
France182 Posts
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Sanguinarius
United States3427 Posts
Some of the answers are really lol - esp about marines. I like his sense of humor. | ||
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bearhug
United States999 Posts
On January 16 2011 17:46 MetalSlug wrote: Wow some of these are really cool, wish someone would translate them. This one is about Jinro ! + Show Spoiler + The last image is dead... | ||
palookieblue
Australia326 Posts
Love this kid. (I'm older than him, I can call him that!) (: | ||
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supersoft
Germany3729 Posts
On January 16 2011 19:49 Sniffy wrote: Ending the game with SCVs and marines isnt a show of skill. Its what people do to hide their lack of skill. If you were a progamer who practiced the ins and outs of the game everyday and were actually good, why would you want to play like that? The point of playing standard macro games is that you are given more opportunities to outplay your opponent. Why do you think people would prefer to throw marines and scvs at Idra rather outplay and make better decisions than him? Because theyre worse than him and they know it. Jinro plays standard because Jinro doesnt need to rely on 5 minute gimmicks to beat Idra. Stop trying to justify this terrible way of playing. The fact that Foxer was almost crowned the best SC2 player in the world a few months ago is nothing short of a joke. If hes trying to branch out and actually play good games, then good for him. Sorry, you are completely uninformed. Please watch his games. Foxer did so much for the TvZ matchup, he did not only play scv marine all-ins. That's just wrong. He was also the first one who played 2rax-FE in a televised game, what is now pretty standart. | ||
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Ysellian
Netherlands9029 Posts
Love his humbleness too! A shame he didn't go for FoxeR, but MK does suit him and I'm hoping he'll just stick with it really. | ||
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THM
Bulgaria1131 Posts
Hope for Jinro vs Foxer in the semifinals, and winner wins the GSL | ||
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Asha
United Kingdom38156 Posts
Thanks for translating. | ||
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shell
Portugal2722 Posts
Nice iview! thanks | ||
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KezseN
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windiscool
South Africa7 Posts
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elt
Thailand1092 Posts
MKP comes off as a really nice kid that's not got his head in the clouds. Hope to see him go far in SC2. | ||
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Kappa09
United States149 Posts
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bubblegumbo
Taiwan1296 Posts
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mierin
United States4943 Posts
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kochujang
Germany1226 Posts
On January 16 2011 23:18 bubblegumbo wrote: manhwa means manga No it doesn't. Manga is japanese comic. Manhwa is korean comic (and cartoon too I believe). You can say that manhwa means comic, but not manga. Edit: To clarify the translation: I believe Koreans use the same word for reading and watching, so it is not clear if MKP meant comic or cartoon. | ||
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MisterFred
United States2033 Posts
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Snarky09
United States8 Posts
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nalgene
Canada2153 Posts
On January 16 2011 23:18 bubblegumbo wrote: manhwa means manga That can also be a honger pronounciation... in one of the SARS region ( some spec admin reg cities ) 香港 kandan/gandan man/man dai/dai denwa/deenwa ten/tian tenshi/tianzi shi/shi On January 16 2011 19:49 Sniffy wrote: Ending the game with SCVs and marines isnt a show of skill. Its what people do to hide their lack of skill. If you were a progamer who practiced the ins and outs of the game everyday and were actually good, why would you want to play like that? The point of playing standard macro games is that you are given more opportunities to outplay your opponent. Why do you think people would prefer to throw marines and scvs at Idra rather outplay and make better decisions than him? Because theyre worse than him and they know it. Jinro plays standard because Jinro doesnt need to rely on 5 minute gimmicks to beat Idra. Stop trying to justify this terrible way of playing. The fact that Foxer was almost crowned the best SC2 player in the world a few months ago is nothing short of a joke. If hes trying to branch out and actually play good games, then good for him. What's so wrong about using 90%+ into marines...? He's already shown to have expanded before his opponents at least once... He's played quite a few long, drawn out games before... He does play macro games while using a unit that can hit both air/ground targets... He pretty much made 2Rax FE as one of the standards... He's already starting to branch out to include other units... why would he want to practice 50 different things at simultaneously instead one at a time and gradually include them all... "I fear the man who's practiced one kick 10000 times than the man who's practiced 10000 kicks once." He's already shown to have slightly better micro in comparison to other pro gamers using the same unit when his opponents are forced into using that one air/ground/50mineral unit... fear/anxiety/anger/hate doesn't make you more focused/stronger...why the hate... what more do you want from him anyways? he's already fulfilled everything you listed with the exceptions of primarily using a T1 unit... look at mc in season3, he excels at destroying terrans with a 15-1 on them...he tries to end the games quick, but he's shown to be just as good at long, drawn out games... btw, his current and peak ELO are both higher than everyone else's current and peak ELO | ||
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HueHang
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He's not that arrogant like oGsMC is. Furthermore i do really like his games. And regarding to his 'all-ins' with marines and scvs : I don't think that he tried to do an All-In that much like BitByBitPrime did. MKP expands whenever he can. That's what I have seen so far :p | ||
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Latham
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legaton
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Vaethin
Germany44 Posts
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Yoshi Kirishima
United States10317 Posts
Having played as Protoss in BW, why did you choose Terran in SC2? For no specific reason. I heard Terran was good when I started playing SC2 so I chose it. Huh? thought i read somewhere that it was because of Slayers Boxer | ||
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Deleted User 101379
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On January 16 2011 21:13 Ysellian wrote: Funny interview Love his humbleness too! A shame he didn't go for FoxeR, but MK does suit him and I'm hoping he'll just stick with it really. I hope he doesn't stick with it and calls himself BattlecruiserAdmiral some day... | ||
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Thurokiir
United States779 Posts
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Von
United States363 Posts
But I could see he was a nice kid with seriously legit talent of his own. I'm a Foxer fan. . | ||
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emythrel
United Kingdom2599 Posts
On January 16 2011 13:58 thoradycus wrote: This.Its a form of a payback/thank you for raising the child (Im asian) i still find this bizarre. My parents chose to have children, I didn't choose to be born. What i earn is mine, what they earn is theirs. I thank my parents by doing well in life and their reward was getting to see me and my bro grow up in to adults and take on the world in our own way. Though i suppose you get it back in the end, so each ot their own. MK is a funny guy, great interview. | ||
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Torumfroll
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supersoft
Germany3729 Posts
On January 17 2011 02:34 emythrel wrote: i still find this bizarre. My parents chose to have children, I didn't choose to be born. What i earn is mine, what they earn is theirs. I thank my parents by doing well in life and their reward was getting to see me and my bro grow up in to adults and take on the world in our own way. Though i suppose you get it back in the end, so each ot their own. MK is a funny guy, great interview. totally agree with you: + you need that money to raise your own children. Seems not reasonable to me to pay my parents for raising me, well if was a millionaire ofc i'd give my parents a lot of money. But not if they have enough and I don't have too much... | ||
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Veldril
Thailand1817 Posts
On January 17 2011 04:04 supersoft wrote: totally agree with you: + you need that money to raise your own children. Seems not reasonable to me to pay my parents for raising me, well if was a millionaire ofc i'd give my parents a lot of money. But not if they have enough and I don't have too much... As many people have already stated, it is a form of showing respect to parents for their hardship (giving birth is viewed as the riskiest and most painful thing in Asia) of bringing up children and also a good way to save up the money for the future. Normally, parents would not use the money children gave to them, but rather save them when their children need them the most (marriage, emergency situations, for grandchildren, etc). You can see it as deposit money with the bank, or investor who have experience. And when parents pass away, children inherit those money so their is no loss. I think it's the same why many (maybe mostly) Eastern people don't understand Western people's style of upbringing. In a more traditional/conservative family, parents expect children to live the path they think it's the best, which most children (at least from people I knew) respect parents' opinions and feel that they have oblige to what parents want. Many people (including kids) view that growing in Western style is not respectful to parents. | ||
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See.Blue
United States2673 Posts
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H0bgawblin
United States109 Posts
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Greggle
United States1131 Posts
I love the fact that he's always wearing his silly pink hoodie and looks like he's 16, and doesn't take any interviews seriously. How can anyone not love this guy? | ||
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DarkRise
1644 Posts
On January 17 2011 04:04 supersoft wrote: totally agree with you: + you need that money to raise your own children. Seems not reasonable to me to pay my parents for raising me, well if was a millionaire ofc i'd give my parents a lot of money. But not if they have enough and I don't have too much... Like he said it's the asian culture I don't think his parents demand the money you earn but he himself chose that decision I'm saying this coz I'm asian and I also give my job salary to my parents but they don't use it anyways. It's pretty much just managing your money to be use for the future and and not in useless stuff. I have my own credit card but my parents pay for it and doesn't use the cash i gave that been put in my savings. Asians are just known to be strict and raise their child very well (I'm not saying that americans or others don't raise their child well). It's just that asian parents don't let their child be independent as long as they can. When i went to college, my parents are even considering moving to the city I'm attending college to LOL | ||
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wristuzi
United Kingdom1168 Posts
No interest in becoming the MarauderKing? If I got interested on other units, marines would be jealous. Why am I not able to control marines like you do? My micro was not good from the beginning. I got my know-how after slaughtering many, many marines. Practice is the only answer. ^^ Awesome interview :D He's totally won my fanboyism, even though I got stressed with him in GSL 2 The questions were all pretty great too, excited for the FD interview! | ||
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KvltMan
Sweden1609 Posts
Otherwise I think it was a great interview/translation. He just seems like such a humble person with zero ego. | ||
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clayn
Germany444 Posts
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gogogadgetflow
United States2583 Posts
On January 17 2011 05:46 KvltMan wrote: Slightly off-topic question, but has he customized his keyboard himself (the black/white keys) or is it a specific type of keyboard? Otherwise I think it was a great interview/translation. He just seems like such a humble person with zero ego. As to the keyboard, I believe it is an Owltech (You can confirm this on google images). You can probably get one here if you read japanese. As far as MKP goes I wouldnt belittle him by saying he has no ego - my bet is this kid knew he was sick good well before we were calling him a one-trick noobie. | ||
bkrow
Australia8532 Posts
awesome to see hes making it in sc2 :D .. | ||
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starfries
Canada3508 Posts
On January 17 2011 02:34 emythrel wrote: i still find this bizarre. My parents chose to have children, I didn't choose to be born. What i earn is mine, what they earn is theirs. I thank my parents by doing well in life and their reward was getting to see me and my bro grow up in to adults and take on the world in our own way. Though i suppose you get it back in the end, so each ot their own. MK is a funny guy, great interview. I don't know about Asian culture vs non-Asian culture, but I do know that some families have care more about whose money is whose, and treat it as if they were just friends. That is to say, you'd lend money to a friend, but you'd expect to be paid back and vice versa, and you wouldn't just give him thousands of dollars that you made. On the other hand, some families just keep all their money together. If you need money for something, you ask your parents and they give it to you. If you get thousands of dollars, you give it to your parents to hang on to. I'm sure most parents in this situation would respect the fact that the child earned the money and wouldn't actually spend any of it. It's not bizarre, it's just how some families do things. | ||
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rakshasa
Japan23 Posts
On the other hand, some families just keep all their money together. If you need money for something, you ask your parents and they give it to you. If you get thousands of dollars, you give it to your parents to hang on to. I'm sure most parents in this situation would respect the fact that the child earned the money and wouldn't actually spend any of it. It's not bizarre, it's just how some families do things. We're talking about a _VERY_ performance based income here, one that will be rather variable. If the parents are paying for his living expenses in some periods then it would be natural to consider repaying some of it depending on their financial situation. | ||
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starfries
Canada3508 Posts
On January 16 2011 19:49 Sniffy wrote: Ending the game with SCVs and marines isnt a show of skill. Its what people do to hide their lack of skill. If you were a progamer who practiced the ins and outs of the game everyday and were actually good, why would you want to play like that? The point of playing standard macro games is that you are given more opportunities to outplay your opponent. It is a show of skill. I know Artosis and Day[9] like to extend leads instead of going for a kill, and of course Korean progamers understand the concept. I've never seen Foxer all-in blindly - he actually usually prepares for a macro game and expands behind his attacks. It's just that his attacks tend to kill people. On January 16 2011 19:49 Sniffy wrote: If you were a progamer who practiced the ins and outs of the game everyday and were actually good, why would you want to play like that? The point of playing standard macro games is that you are given more opportunities to outplay your opponent. Foxer does outplay his opponents. I don't get what you're trying to say here. His opponent can't hold off Foxer's attack - therefore, Foxer is worse than his opponent? The best player is the one with the best macro? On January 16 2011 19:49 Sniffy wrote: Why do you think people would prefer to throw marines and scvs at Idra rather outplay and make better decisions than him? Because theyre worse than him and they know it. Jinro plays standard because Jinro doesnt need to rely on 5 minute gimmicks to beat Idra. I'm pretty sure if you choose to attack and it kills your opponent, that counts as a good decision. | ||
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jyLee
United States350 Posts
On January 17 2011 02:34 emythrel wrote: i still find this bizarre. My parents chose to have children, I didn't choose to be born. What i earn is mine, what they earn is theirs. I thank my parents by doing well in life and their reward was getting to see me and my bro grow up in to adults and take on the world in our own way. Though i suppose you get it back in the end, so each ot their own. MK is a funny guy, great interview. Using that same logic they could of just dumped your ass on the curb after having you and let you fend for yourself after giving you life. Since everything your parents earn is theirs they have no reason to share it with you to feed, clothe, put a roof over you all those years. Amirite? Terrible logic. People share with the people they care about. Parents care for their children and children should care for their parents. Its really not all that fuckin bizarre. | ||
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vnlegend
United States1389 Posts
On January 17 2011 02:34 emythrel wrote: i still find this bizarre. My parents chose to have children, I didn't choose to be born. What i earn is mine, what they earn is theirs. I thank my parents by doing well in life and their reward was getting to see me and my bro grow up in to adults and take on the world in our own way. Though i suppose you get it back in the end, so each ot their own. MK is a funny guy, great interview. lmao what a totally selfish view of how things work. Your parents spend 2 decades raising you and their reward is to "see you grow up." Notice how it's all about you and you never spend a second thinking about the two decades of work, time, money and effort was spent by other people. Of course parents don't expect to be paid back any of it, but it would be a pious and good thing to do. Having children most of the time is not exactly a choice. It's biological programming. Once parents get older, they'll need the children to take care of them. With your point of view, your kids will be sticking you into a retirement home while they spend money on parties. Again it is about family cohesion and close community, not "all I care about is myself." | ||
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neo_sporin
United States516 Posts
On January 17 2011 02:34 emythrel wrote: i still find this bizarre. My parents chose to have children, I didn't choose to be born. What i earn is mine, what they earn is theirs. I thank my parents by doing well in life and their reward was getting to see me and my bro grow up in to adults and take on the world in our own way. Though i suppose you get it back in the end, so each ot their own. MK is a funny guy, great interview. Its funny because I think the same thing in reverse. I dont want kids because what i earn is mine and I don't want to spend 10s-100s of thousands of dollars on something that I dont even know that ill enjoy. Hell I barely want to spend 40 dollars on a game if there may be questionable enjoyment out of it. I mean realistically in American culture, your kid will be cool and loving for like 13 years....then the next 10 or so s/he will just be a dick to you while still expecting you to pay for food/clothing/housing/education. | ||
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Dalavita
Sweden1113 Posts
News to me. What rumors are those? | ||
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Glaven
Canada554 Posts
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Loophole
United States867 Posts
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Champi
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Phtes
United States370 Posts
Ending the game with SCVs and marines isnt a show of skill. Its what people do to hide their lack of skill. If you were a progamer who practiced the ins and outs of the game everyday and were actually good, why would you want to play like that? The point of playing standard macro games is that you are given more opportunities to outplay your opponent. Why do you think people would prefer to throw marines and scvs at Idra rather outplay and make better decisions than him? Because theyre worse than him and they know it. Jinro plays standard because Jinro doesnt need to rely on 5 minute gimmicks to beat Idra. Stop trying to justify this terrible way of playing. The fact that Foxer was almost crowned the best SC2 player in the world a few months ago is nothing short of a joke. If hes trying to branch out and actually play good games, then good for him. 1. 90% of MKP's games are 1-2rax FE, sometimes expoing before even a zerg player. 2. Jinro vs Idra go look at the unit comp 80% marine 15% tank 5% thor. MKP vs Zerg 80% Marine, 10% Marauder, and lately 70% marine 30% tank. Same core unit just different combinations, Jinro Prefers the slow turtle push composition, MKP prefers the expand on aggression comps and can support this with incredible micro. 3. Almost every game in GSL 3 / 4 from MKP have now involved higher tier units, be it medivacs, tanks, etc. In GSL 4 hes even been doing alot of tank, viking builds. 4. The original standard for TvZ was win fast or gg, MKP found a cost effective way to be on equal macro terms with a zerg and army trade cost effectively. Not the previously accepted build a 200/200 army into doom push and gg if you dont kill his main base. Or the just all in and end it fast. 5. MKP's Marine play turned into the standard for all TvZ's eventually evolving into tank/marine +late game thor, the now accepted playstyle. The play style every terran except for maybe a few all derived from MKP's cost effective form of fighting a zerg, the tanks were originally added in cause not everyone can split 50 marines in 10 different directions within 1game second like him. Calling his playstyle terrible is calling every pro terrans play style terrible. | ||
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CooDu
Australia899 Posts
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Xswordy
United Kingdom425 Posts
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Dubes
United States327 Posts
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cuppatea
United Kingdom1401 Posts
On January 17 2011 12:06 Dubes wrote: Before this interview I hated MKP just for taking my favorite players out of the GSL, but now I really like him! What a down to earth, kind, and generous member of the community. Giving his winnings to his parents says mountains about him. It doesn't really say anything about him, "I'm giving the money to my parents" is the standard Korean response to that question. | ||
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Turgid
United States1623 Posts
MVP also started splitting marines in GSL first(though it was also in GSL2). Nevertheless, MKP is an excellent Terran. I think you'd be crazy to look at his skills - respectable macro, respectable sense of timing, excellent micro - and think "yeah, there's no way this guy knows how to siege a tank" or something like that. I'd be shocked to learn that he couldn't competently execute the vast majority of the Terran strategies that are popular right now. | ||
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Kamais_Ookin
Canada4218 Posts
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Brett
Australia3820 Posts
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Entr0py
Germany11 Posts
What are your thoughts about rumors of a possible marine nerf? What? Am I the only one who noticed that? Does anyone know where that rumor came from? | ||
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Paradice
New Zealand431 Posts
On January 17 2011 14:52 Entr0py wrote: What? Am I the only one who noticed that? Does anyone know where that rumor came from? I'm guessing it's a reference to Blizzard repeatedly saying they're worried about stim marine DPS being too high, which IIRC dates way back to Blizzcon, where it was talked about primarily in relation to TvP early game. | ||
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Dakkas
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arnold(soTa)
Sweden352 Posts
I like him but he is wrong about foreigners only caring about quality of games, we care about sportsmanship and such also. atleast I do. what I like the most is when people can take a group of units no1 else could do shit with and then destroying worlds with them, like marineking does with marines. respect and good luck to him | ||
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frumpylumps
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iEchoic
United States1776 Posts
I personally believe that either Foxer or NaDa will be the first to win a GSL. MVP may as well, although I think it's a bit less likely. Good interview, humble responses, seems like a smart guy. | ||
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iDope
Saudi Arabia223 Posts
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PheNOM_
United States417 Posts
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CounteR
New Zealand103 Posts
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deroth
United States83 Posts
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MousecL1ck1
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Ever-Long
Canada106 Posts
Also where can i get a pink Weeds Garden hoody?? | ||
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LloydRays
United States306 Posts
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[F_]aths
Germany3947 Posts
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dolpiff
France300 Posts
great itw tx for taking the time to bring it to us | ||
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Euronyme
Sweden3804 Posts
On January 16 2011 13:43 1Eris1 wrote: now that MC is out. I have a feeling MK will win gsl easily, unless he goes up againt Nestea/mvp. such a cool and awesome guy Jinro will eat him alive | ||
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Roggay
Switzerland6320 Posts
But it seems like he is a nice guy. | ||
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Kazzabiss
1006 Posts
Except when MKP beat Jinro in group play, and in Season 3 when he atleast took a game off of MC, and Jinro didn't. | ||
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Von
United States363 Posts
On January 16 2011 19:49 Sniffy wrote: Why do you think people would prefer to throw marines and scvs at Idra rather outplay and make better decisions than him? Because theyre worse than him and they know it. Jinro plays standard because Jinro doesnt need to rely on 5 minute gimmicks to beat Idra. I totally will never forget the sick games where Foxer played well into the mid and late game ... pumping marines off tons of rax over and over again .... and winning ... using nothing but upgraded 'rines and micro against some of the best players in the world. That's no gimmick bro. That's mad talent. . . | ||
JunkkaGom
Korea (South)855 Posts
By manhwa it is likely he means comic books. It's pretty common hobby in Korea. Also cocoshoo, as of yesterday is now gomtv employee. She works in my team. I plan to translate her reacaps soon. | ||
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dunc
Netherlands1105 Posts
On January 18 2011 12:18 JunkkaGom wrote: I plan to translate her reacaps soon. Yay, looking forward to this! Congrats to her on making it into the GOMTV team. | ||
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Turgid
United States1623 Posts
On January 18 2011 12:18 JunkkaGom wrote: Also cocoshoo, as of yesterday is now gomtv employee. She works in my team. I plan to translate her reacaps soon. Haha awesome. The comics look so cute. | ||
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kefkaesque
United States34 Posts
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[F_]aths
Germany3947 Posts
On January 18 2011 11:17 Von wrote: Yes, there is no reason to downplay Foxers skill. If Idra wants go to in a macro game, he has to be able to survive early pushes or the player who uses "gimmicks" deserves the win.I totally will never forget the sick games where Foxer played well into the mid and late game ... pumping marines off tons of rax over and over again .... and winning ... using nothing but upgraded 'rines and micro against some of the best players in the world. That's no gimmick bro. That's mad talent. I will probably never understand why well executed pushes are by some considered to be a worse skill than macro game skill. | ||
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tapk69
Portugal264 Posts
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kerpal
United Kingdom2695 Posts
loving the jokes in this. | ||
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haruk
216 Posts
On January 18 2011 19:40 [F_]aths wrote: Yes, there is no reason to downplay Foxers skill. If Idra wants go to in a macro game, he has to be able to survive early pushes or the player who uses "gimmicks" deserves the win. I will probably never understand why well executed pushes are by some considered to be a worse skill than macro game skill. Mad talent! Yep. Macro games= sim city, at least the way I see it played by most westerners. There's this long lull time where they macro up and gather an army, then dance around each other. I like the action packed aggressive games where the players are good enough to survive pushes thus taking the game into macro. The macro is there to support the pushes so you can kill your opponent and win. And mad micro skills like foxer's will win pushes most of the time. Edit: He's young though, sometimes makes bad judgment calls. Can't wait to see him become more stable. I love FD but I think Nestea is more stable. But then again Boxer is stable but loses because he experiments, and that's also good. | ||
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.kv
United States2332 Posts
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DiiShen
United States56 Posts
ps. I'm digging MKP's pink sweater | ||
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yoonyoon
Korea (South)1065 Posts
On January 19 2011 20:47 DiiShen wrote: awesome translation, I'm also very curious about FD's answers to MKP's questions ps. I'm digging MKP's pink sweater I have like three hoodies from the same place... but I always felt self-conscious walking around with the word weed on my chest. | ||
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CutieBling
Korea (South)2 Posts
Cocoshoo is quite well known in Korean online SC2 communities; not just because her daily recaps are fun but also because she's an avid fan of Fruit Dealer lol I think every Korean FD fans know about Cocoshoo lol In his interviews Fruit Dealer once said that he's a fan of Cocoshoo's SC2 cartoons and that he feels honored since she's his fan; and motivated to do great games since he shows up very frequently in her cartoons. http://esports.gomtv.com/gsl/community/view.gom?msgid=6263&c=cocoshoo&p=1. you can see FD depicted as a guy with an apple head in this recap; + FD and Cocoshoo are not dating, at least not yet | ||
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mierin
United States4943 Posts
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Cakez
United States73 Posts
MarineKing is a nice, modest humble player who earns my Respect. good luck to him in the finals. | ||
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Dakkas
2550 Posts
On January 20 2011 02:22 CutieBling wrote: For FD's fans, some fun facts about Cocoshoo: Cocoshoo is quite well known in Korean online SC2 communities; not just because her daily recaps are fun but also because she's an avid fan of Fruit Dealer lol I think every Korean FD fans know about Cocoshoo lol In his interviews Fruit Dealer once said that he's a fan of Cocoshoo's SC2 cartoons and that he feels honored since she's his fan; and motivated to do great games since he shows up very frequently in her cartoons. http://esports.gomtv.com/gsl/community/view.gom?msgid=6263&c=cocoshoo&p=1. you can see FD depicted as a guy with an apple head in this recap; + FD and Cocoshoo are not dating, at least not yet Haha thanks for that, Go get her Fruity! | ||
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wrathofroc
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Rabbitmaster
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jalstar
United States8198 Posts
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Nayru
United States87 Posts
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xciLe
Norway213 Posts
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Euronyme
Sweden3804 Posts
On January 18 2011 11:13 Kazzabiss wrote: Except when MKP beat Jinro in group play, and in Season 3 when he atleast took a game off of MC, and Jinro didn't. Jinro 2:0d MC. Everyone said MC was way favoured to win, and he was known as the best player in the world. Jinro lost a game to MKP in group play, because of an all in drop when his base was basically gone. I'm going with Jinro here. Foreigners, team liquid and Swedish ppl whaiting ;d | ||
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bearhug
United States999 Posts
On January 22 2011 12:49 Euronyme wrote: Jinro 2:0d MC. Everyone said MC was way favoured to win, and he was known as the best player in the world. Jinro lost a game to MKP in group play, because of an all in drop when his base was basically gone. I'm going with Jinro here. Foreigners, team liquid and Swedish ppl whaiting ;d Yeah. but that was not an all in drop. MKP had enough army at home and he eventually cleaned all Jinro's force. | ||
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MrCon
France29748 Posts
Mainly because he is so much skilled, it is insane. Imagine playing a game against him, when he pressure and pressure and pressure until your mechanics can't follow anymore and you just crack under his pressure. Sick how hard is it to keep a perfect macro while you have a micro like that, it's like he's playing on a 20000*12000 monitor so he can be everywhere at once. For me he's a true S class player, one of the few S class players in GSL. | ||
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pieisamazing
United States1234 Posts
Maybe the translator is just good? All the other progamer interviews I see seem to be so... generic... like if I didn't know who was being interviewed, I wouldn't be able to tell them apart. | ||
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sylverfyre
United States8298 Posts
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oneofthem
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
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Euronyme
Sweden3804 Posts
On January 22 2011 13:31 bearhug wrote: Yeah. but that was not an all in drop. MKP had enough army at home and he eventually cleaned all Jinro's force. Whatever.. I'm so biased it's not worth discussing ^^ Best of luck to MKP in the finals. I think it's gonna be a great series, as atleast MKPs playstyle assures it wont be a tank viking stalemate fest. | ||
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spacefarm
United States112 Posts
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anyuta34i
Albania9 Posts
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hybridsc
United States63 Posts
On January 22 2011 12:49 Euronyme wrote: Jinro 2:0d MC. Everyone said MC was way favoured to win, and he was known as the best player in the world. Jinro lost a game to MKP in group play, because of an all in drop when his base was basically gone. I'm going with Jinro here. Foreigners, team liquid and Swedish ppl whaiting ;d Don't you feel silly. Anyways I'm so psyched about this finals MKP vs MVP the 2 top terran players in the world (With Jinro close behind). Both of them push the pace and force opponents to adapt to THEM. | ||
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Euronyme
Sweden3804 Posts
On January 25 2011 12:20 enjoyx wrote: Don't you feel silly. Anyways I'm so psyched about this finals MKP vs MVP the 2 top terran players in the world (With Jinro close behind). Both of them push the pace and force opponents to adapt to THEM. Nah man it's all good. I believe in the Jinro. | ||
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[N3O]r3d33m3r
Germany673 Posts
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bearhug
United States999 Posts
On January 26 2011 09:04 r3d33m3r wrote: i bet oGsTheSTC would be as good as FoxeR/MVP or even better than them STC hasn't shown any impressive play in GSL so far. And he is 4 years older than MKP. | ||
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PartyBiscuit
Canada4525 Posts
On January 26 2011 23:49 bearhug wrote: STC hasn't shown any impressive play in GSL so far. And he is 4 years older than MKP. Well, considering he is in the army and hasn't actually played in GSL so far...kind of hard to judge him on that. | ||
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oneofthem
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
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[N3O]r3d33m3r
Germany673 Posts
On January 27 2011 07:40 oneofthem wrote: he's in no way better than mvp/foxer. overall skill level of the players in beta isn't all that high, and it has been improving steadily. why beta? stc played in august/september too. he also won vs foxer many times, and made look tster or fruitdealer bad | ||
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