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VictorW
Profile Joined May 2009
United States157 Posts
February 04 2011 14:02 GMT
#61
For people with the mouse double left click problem, try Mousefix. It's at the bottom of the page. Worked for my Razer Deathadder. http://www.danieljackson.co.uk/fun/old/

Are there any curved Mechanical keyboards? I can't seem to find any.
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Zeddicus
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States239 Posts
February 04 2011 17:50 GMT
#62
SO the main difference between the blacks and the browns is the "tactile" switches? Which is a physical click you can feel as you depress the key, right?

I don't think I've ever used a keyboard that clicked in that manner, I'm used to a straight linear keystroke. I think I'm going to invest in a 6gv2. Thanks for all of the good info here.
Jago
Profile Joined October 2010
Finland390 Posts
February 04 2011 18:09 GMT
#63
On February 05 2011 02:50 Zeddicus wrote:
SO the main difference between the blacks and the browns is the "tactile" switches? Which is a physical click you can feel as you depress the key, right?

You can feel and hear the click both when pressing and depressing the key, but in normal use you hear/feel only 1 click per keypress. It happens half-way (travel distance of 4mm, key actuation at 2mm). Browns also take slightly less force to register the keypress, some people find blacks a bit stiff for prolonged gaming / typing sessions.
vyyye
Profile Joined July 2010
Sweden3917 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-04 18:15:18
February 04 2011 18:14 GMT
#64
On February 05 2011 02:50 Zeddicus wrote:
SO the main difference between the blacks and the browns is the "tactile" switches? Which is a physical click you can feel as you depress the key, right?

I don't think I've ever used a keyboard that clicked in that manner, I'm used to a straight linear keystroke. I think I'm going to invest in a 6gv2. Thanks for all of the good info here.

Nah, but it is one difference. Blacks need quite a bit of force to push down while brown needs just about nothing (45g). Even people with blacks tend to agree that it isn't ideal for typing. FPS players favour blacks though, because it's much harder to accidently press a key you're not intending to press.

Tactile doesn't refer to the click either, blue switches are tactile AND clicky, while brown switches are simply tactile. It's like a tiny bump that tells you when you pressed the key down enough, most tend to prefer to have a tactile rather than linear switch.

I have a keyboard with brown switches and it's more or less silent unless I bottom out the keys (which I do a lot, but that's besides the point).
Glueburn
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States496 Posts
February 04 2011 18:32 GMT
#65
The 6gv2 is definitely not as bad as people think it is, while i have not used blue switches i absolutely love my blacks.

I've already typed muiltiple papers on this keyboard, and it definitely is not fatiguing. and it is a dream to play games on.
Sometimes you have to play a long time to be able to play like yourself. - Miles Davis
vyyye
Profile Joined July 2010
Sweden3917 Posts
February 04 2011 18:39 GMT
#66
On February 05 2011 03:32 CampinSam wrote:
The 6gv2 is definitely not as bad as people think it is, while i have not used blue switches i absolutely love my blacks.

I've already typed muiltiple papers on this keyboard, and it definitely is not fatiguing. and it is a dream to play games on.

Every keyboard works unless there's some malfunction. I mean, I spent 15 years typing on membrane keyboards without any trouble. Not used blacks either but to put in some perspective; I've heard several people with blacks say it's a bit meh to type on, I have never heard anyone say blues or browns are anything but amazing for typing.

In the end though, both are miles better than a $10 keyboard for gaming, typing and.. well, everything.
Glueburn
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States496 Posts
February 04 2011 19:02 GMT
#67
On February 05 2011 03:39 vyyye wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2011 03:32 CampinSam wrote:
The 6gv2 is definitely not as bad as people think it is, while i have not used blue switches i absolutely love my blacks.

I've already typed muiltiple papers on this keyboard, and it definitely is not fatiguing. and it is a dream to play games on.

Every keyboard works unless there's some malfunction. I mean, I spent 15 years typing on membrane keyboards without any trouble. Not used blacks either but to put in some perspective; I've heard several people with blacks say it's a bit meh to type on, I have never heard anyone say blues or browns are anything but amazing for typing.

In the end though, both are miles better than a $10 keyboard for gaming, typing and.. well, everything.


this indeed is true.

but I have not heard anyone say blacks are anything but amazing for gaming.
to each his own, I simply think I like blacks because I prefer to have a bit of force in my key presses. and I have fairly strong fingers due to Contact Juggling

and ofcourse, as you pointed out, mechanicals are drastically better then membranes.
Sometimes you have to play a long time to be able to play like yourself. - Miles Davis
diehilde
Profile Joined September 2008
Germany1596 Posts
February 04 2011 19:56 GMT
#68
I use this
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Needless to say, Im more than happy with it
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Cragus
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada144 Posts
February 04 2011 19:59 GMT
#69
On February 04 2011 23:02 VictorW wrote:
For people with the mouse double left click problem, try Mousefix. It's at the bottom of the page. Worked for my Razer Deathadder. http://www.danieljackson.co.uk/fun/old/

Are there any curved Mechanical keyboards? I can't seem to find any.

By curved, I assume you mean ergonomic. Technically, yes they do exist; however, in practice they are not a practical option. There were some split mech keyboards many years ago (Apple Adjustable for example) and there are some currently produced ergo mechanicals (Kinesis Advantage Contoured is one). Unfortunately, the old keyboards are really rare, and the currently produced ones tend to have astronomical price tags.
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sawedust
Profile Joined December 2010
United States506 Posts
February 05 2011 10:49 GMT
#70
If you're in the market for an awesome mechanical keyboard, PCHome has an awesome deal on Filcos right now.

It's $10 shipping to the US (and perhaps anywhere in the world), so the total for a Filco tenkeyless comes out to around $130. That's an amazing deal for such a highly-acclaimed mechanical keyboard.

If you're interested, the link is here and a guide to translating PCHome's site is here.

Hope this helps!
Lythis
Profile Joined January 2010
Germany87 Posts
February 05 2011 20:34 GMT
#71
The problem with PCHome is that the price doesn't include duty and taxes for the receiving country.So the price is msot likely a lot more than $130 .
ZeromuS
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada13389 Posts
February 05 2011 21:31 GMT
#72
I personally really enjoy my 6gv2 from steel series
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visselli
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada76 Posts
February 05 2011 21:46 GMT
#73
On January 15 2011 02:48 Xanbatou wrote:
I wouldn't get the 6v2. In fact, I have no idea how people can stand to use that keyboard. Switch preference is one thing, but I cannot tolerate any keyboards that have small backspace keys.
.


well then its a good thing the 6gv2 has a large backspace key [image loading]

I use the 6gv2 and at first i was hesitant because for the longest time i had used a wrist rest but after about a week of using this keyboard i was completely comfortable, its definitely the best bang for your buck.
semantics
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
10040 Posts
February 05 2011 21:53 GMT
#74
On February 06 2011 06:46 visselli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2011 02:48 Xanbatou wrote:
I wouldn't get the 6v2. In fact, I have no idea how people can stand to use that keyboard. Switch preference is one thing, but I cannot tolerate any keyboards that have small backspace keys.
.


well then its a good thing the 6gv2 has a large backspace key [image loading]

I use the 6gv2 and at first i was hesitant because for the longest time i had used a wrist rest but after about a week of using this keyboard i was completely comfortable, its definitely the best bang for your buck.

why didn't you just buy a wrist rest they are like 10 bucks.
Ursad0n
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States523 Posts
February 06 2011 05:49 GMT
#75
On February 06 2011 06:53 semantics wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 06 2011 06:46 visselli wrote:
On January 15 2011 02:48 Xanbatou wrote:
I wouldn't get the 6v2. In fact, I have no idea how people can stand to use that keyboard. Switch preference is one thing, but I cannot tolerate any keyboards that have small backspace keys.
.


well then its a good thing the 6gv2 has a large backspace key [image loading]

I use the 6gv2 and at first i was hesitant because for the longest time i had used a wrist rest but after about a week of using this keyboard i was completely comfortable, its definitely the best bang for your buck.

why didn't you just buy a wrist rest they are like 10 bucks.

Because wrist rests are stupid!
And I have a Blackwidow and its working great for me.
You make it sound like there's a correlation between what should happen and what actually happens. I mean, life is chaotic and it's often unfair. I know it is for me.
motiust
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia97 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-06 13:24:14
February 06 2011 13:19 GMT
#76
Hello All,

I have both the Steelseries(black switch) 6Gv2 and the Razer Blackwidow (blue switch) and here are my findings...

6Gv2:
I think, this keyboard is is great for FPS or MMO games, because of the constant spamming of the AWSD and 1234 keys, it is good to NOT have the blue's tactile click, however the keyboard layout and the looks is VERY boring i mean cmon this thing looks exactly the same as the $5 generic no brands i also notice the prints comes off quite quickly..

Razer Blackwidow
Razer has a long history of making crap keyboards, however the blackwidow product line has redeemed its bad reputations, guys, this keyboard actually looks and feels pretty good and i think this keyboard is best for any RTS games, i'd played starcraft with the 6Gv2 and i notice i'd often hit the wrong keys either because the keys are too heavy and or i had to press the key all the way down for me to confirm key register mentally but i know the key registers about half way.
however the blue switch blackwidow is totally the opposite, keys are light and i've made less errors because of it and tactile clicks helps too, noticed an APM gain.

This keyboard looks WAY better then the 6Gv2 by far, quality according to the guys at geekhacks, this one are topnotch altho i personally think that the 6Gv2 would last long than the blackwidow lol
at the end of the day we shouldn't really care because the key switches are all from Cherry anyways.


TL;DR-
FPS and MMO games, SteelSeries 6Gv2, 7G is for the rich kids that likes short backspace keys lol
RTS games: Razer Blackwidow, or any other blue switches




If anyone has Filco Brown please post your experiece and Cherry Brown experience in general tyvm.

Cheers

Termit
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden3466 Posts
February 06 2011 18:10 GMT
#77
On February 06 2011 22:19 motiust wrote:
Hello All,

+ Show Spoiler +
I have both the Steelseries(black switch) 6Gv2 and the Razer Blackwidow (blue switch) and here are my findings...

6Gv2:
I think, this keyboard is is great for FPS or MMO games, because of the constant spamming of the AWSD and 1234 keys, it is good to NOT have the blue's tactile click, however the keyboard layout and the looks is VERY boring i mean cmon this thing looks exactly the same as the $5 generic no brands i also notice the prints comes off quite quickly..

Razer Blackwidow
Razer has a long history of making crap keyboards, however the blackwidow product line has redeemed its bad reputations, guys, this keyboard actually looks and feels pretty good and i think this keyboard is best for any RTS games, i'd played starcraft with the 6Gv2 and i notice i'd often hit the wrong keys either because the keys are too heavy and or i had to press the key all the way down for me to confirm key register mentally but i know the key registers about half way.
however the blue switch blackwidow is totally the opposite, keys are light and i've made less errors because of it and tactile clicks helps too, noticed an APM gain.

This keyboard looks WAY better then the 6Gv2 by far, quality according to the guys at geekhacks, this one are topnotch altho i personally think that the 6Gv2 would last long than the blackwidow lol
at the end of the day we shouldn't really care because the key switches are all from Cherry anyways.


TL;DR-
FPS and MMO games, SteelSeries 6Gv2, 7G is for the rich kids that likes short backspace keys lol
RTS games: Razer Blackwidow, or any other blue switches




If anyone has Filco Brown please post your experiece and Cherry Brown experience in general tyvm.

Cheers



You think the 6gv2 looks cheap? In my opinion it looks very clean stylish mean while black widow looks very plastic. Also, there is no thing like "THIS KEYBOARD IS BEST FOR RTS THAT KEYBOARD IS FOR FPS HERP DERP!!" It's all about personal preferences.
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Phayze
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada2029 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-06 19:53:52
February 06 2011 18:17 GMT
#78
I would not get a 6gv2 for rts games. Idra does use one sure, but sponsorships lol.
Jinro uses black widow.

And termit, if you are a very competetive player, the 6gv2 key's are very hard to press, requiring double the activation force of brown switches. They are also linear and have to be pushed almost all the way down, while blues and browns actually activate half way. This is great for touch typing which someone with very high apm will be using. You want to put the least amount of stress on your fingers as carpal tunnel and the ulnar nerve plague professional gamers. With that said it might not make the biggest difference, but i take my hands very seriously and I dont want keys that are hard to press.

I also personally find the black switches unusable. It's too hard to press and you have to bottom out the key. I returned a 6gv2 a while back and stuck with my dt35 until I got the black widow. With the blackwidow or with blues you need half the force to actuate the key and it makes a click half way down.

And to all the idiots saying the 6gv2 looks cheap because it follows the standard keyboard layout? You want some flashy keyboard that has an awkward shape that will just sprout carpal tunnel? The 6gv2 is like a brick of plastic. It aint goin no where. you dont have to reposition your keyboard every 10 minutes.
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Kvz
Profile Joined March 2010
United States463 Posts
February 06 2011 19:55 GMT
#79
i use the 6gv2 i love it. you can buy a cheap belkin wristrest
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Cel.erity
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States4890 Posts
February 06 2011 20:57 GMT
#80
On February 07 2011 03:17 Phayze wrote:
I would not get a 6gv2 for rts games. Idra does use one sure, but sponsorships lol.
Jinro uses black widow.

And termit, if you are a very competetive player, the 6gv2 key's are very hard to press, requiring double the activation force of brown switches. They are also linear and have to be pushed almost all the way down, while blues and browns actually activate half way. This is great for touch typing which someone with very high apm will be using. You want to put the least amount of stress on your fingers as carpal tunnel and the ulnar nerve plague professional gamers. With that said it might not make the biggest difference, but i take my hands very seriously and I dont want keys that are hard to press.

I also personally find the black switches unusable. It's too hard to press and you have to bottom out the key. I returned a 6gv2 a while back and stuck with my dt35 until I got the black widow. With the blackwidow or with blues you need half the force to actuate the key and it makes a click half way down.


So much bs in this post I don't even know where to begin. First of all, blacks do not require "double" the activation force of browns. Browns are 45g and blacks are 60g. Blues are 50g actuation, but require 60g to get over the tactile bump so they're not much different than blacks. The force required to bottom out on browns and blues is also 60g, so if you're gaming or otherwise bottoming out your keys, you're not going to notice any difference. As for bottoming out, the blacks are actually harder to bottom out because of the linear force required, as opposed to a tactile switch like blues which will have less resistance after the click is felt. Additionally, you feel the click of blues before they actuate, which can lead to you thinking you hit a key but actually didn't, so you have to bottom out more than normal. That is why, for function, browns and blacks are superior to blues, but a lot of people like the clicky feel.

There is nothing at all wrong with typing on blacks if you have naturally forceful fingers as I do. Also, for gaming, it feels so great to have no bumps and no accidental keypresses, and you can double-tap much faster than with other keys due to the stronger spring. I would highly advise a serious gamer to look at either browns or blacks depending on your preference, and only buy blues if you really like the tactile response.
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