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Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
November 05 2010 07:09 GMT
#61
Morg, Annie, Ashe, MF, TF, Twitch, whatever, the list is long for heroes that don't jungle and really have no place taking Smite: he would have received the same reaction for any hero that's not just a "lol Urgot" sort of hero, particularly once he started getting defensive, is my point.
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TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
November 05 2010 07:14 GMT
#62
On November 05 2010 16:09 Southlight wrote:
Morg, Annie, Ashe, MF, TF, Twitch, whatever, the list is long for heroes that don't jungle and really have no place taking Smite: he would have received the same reaction for any hero that's not just a "lol Urgot" sort of hero, particularly once he started getting defensive, is my point.

Oh I got your point, I'm just arguing for the sake of arguing at this point.

Regardless, this whole issue has probably derailed the Kass thread far too long.
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Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-05 08:21:56
November 05 2010 08:16 GMT
#63
The Void Walker

http://www.leagueoflegends.com/champions/38/kassadin_the_void_walker

Personally IMO one of the best melee DPS heroes in the game, because Riot said so. Also, we are null and void.

Summoner Abilities

Smite and Rally, the real man's setup. Smite to farm faster because a farmed Kass is hilarious, Rally because it's great for trolling people.

Masteries

20/0/10 baby. Improved Rally and 10% crit damage (no need for the base 5%), and double Util buff because Liz/Golem are wondaful, especially with your small mana pool.

Runes

I ran my Shen page, but a Twitch page probably works better (Armor Pen Quints and Marks, flat armor Seals and some sort of MR Glyphs). Too bad I don't own Armor Pen Quints.

Skill Order

QWQWQRE and then whatever you want. Q for harassing, W for killing people and getting mana back. Actually if you can control Liz you don't even need the E there.

Items

Open Doran's Shield. As always, health is more a mitigating factor for laning presence than mana. Ideally you'd probably open Guinsoo but I've opened BF Sword (and then gotten confused), it's do-able. Zerker Greaves, Ghostblade, Infinity Edge, some sort of lifesteal, Last Whisper, etc. are all recommended items. Trinity Force ASAP is also highly recommended because it lets you not die while giving you some good stats.

With Q and W you can control your lane just as well as a usual Kass player. Focus on farming, especially by using Smite on Siege Tank creeps. Remember, as long as you hit level 6 you're invincible. Except against Warwick, because that hero's an asshole. Keep farming, keep pushing towers, keep smacking people with your imba poke -> teleport -> snare -> DIE combo. Profit.

At some point you may want to double/triple pot to cement your advantage or turn the tide in your favor. Preferably after you get at least one heavy DPS item, because unlike heroes like Kayle/Trist it takes a bit for Kassadin to take advantage of them. Flat armor reduc items are better for a significant amount of time than Last Whisper because of W being ridiculous. Don't feel pressed to build LW -> IE, something bizarre like BT -> TriForce works fine too. Life Steal is a premium because he has some survivability issues. Remember to use Rally liberally to turn the tide of fights.

You're on your way to being Numba Juan Kassadin*

*credit for Smite idea to Pandonetho

Video of the build in action:










For spoiler about game result:
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apodesu
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1 Post
November 05 2010 08:34 GMT
#64
Southlight's guide is a very powerful and practical playstyle for kassadin similar to my own. The only dispute I have is that exhaust should be taken over rally so while you jungle with smite you have a secondary snare to better secure ganks without necessarily needing lizard.
R04R
Profile Joined March 2009
United States1631 Posts
November 05 2010 09:02 GMT
#65
How much was Gangplank doing with Parrley with the AP boost from Lich Bane?
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UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
November 05 2010 09:07 GMT
#66
Man fuck, I actually came in here just to ask about deepz kassadin because it seemed like a great build to troll with.

Rageblade first doesn't seem optional :<
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
StuffedTurkey
Profile Joined May 2010
United States859 Posts
November 05 2010 09:22 GMT
#67
On November 05 2010 18:02 R04R wrote:
How much was Gangplank doing with Parrley with the AP boost from Lich Bane?

somewhere around 1400 not factoring in enemy armor
You can't milk those!
Ota Solgryn
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Denmark2011 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-05 11:37:09
November 05 2010 11:32 GMT
#68
Ok sorry, didnt notice that OP was changed. Good for him that he asked for it yourself. Gives back some of the lost respect. TL can be harsh but just never take it personal.



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OMG. The OP is a nice try, but I would really wish he would edit it to southlights guide. His guide is much more general and giving tips to new players. As others have said, OP, the biggest problem with your "guide" is not the guide itself, but that it is the first guide new Kass players are going to read, and some of them maybe do. When instead, a general tips and playstyles from a top elo Kassadin could be there, and then you could post your personal playstyle "guide" below in a later post as a discussion.

If you post a guide and/or strategy on TL and it is ineffective/not-the-best/bad people will point this out. Don't pull out the "elitist" card so fast. Come on. You open a thread that says KASS GUIDE, of course good players and top players are going to pick it apart because they simply disagree.

As an even better example of you overreacting is that even if Southlight made this guide, people (like me e.g.) would state that "I think that and that is better than what you say" and Southlight would not get defensive but say "If your playstyle is that and that, this might be viable but blablabla". Instead of saying "You are all elitist"
ihasaKAROT: "Wish people would stop wasting their lives on finding flaws in others"
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17922 Posts
November 05 2010 12:13 GMT
#69
On November 04 2010 19:34 byFd wrote:
OT, but whats with GP and smite?

Low cooldown and gives bonus gold that syncs up well with parley farm i imagine
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
November 05 2010 14:24 GMT
#70
On November 05 2010 18:07 UniversalSnip wrote:
Man fuck, I actually came in here just to ask about deepz kassadin because it seemed like a great build to troll with.

Rageblade first doesn't seem optional :<


Not sure if RGB is even that "optimal" because it's not like he benefits that much from the AP, and his attack speed is purty good.
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myopia
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States2928 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-05 14:35:01
November 05 2010 14:30 GMT
#71
Advanced counter smite strategy: Predict that the fleeing GP will smite the cannon creep on his way back to tower, and teleport to it. DENIED

Remember, as long as you hit level 6 you're invincible. Except against Warwick, because that hero's an asshole.


AHAH! The real reason you banned my magewick >:|
it's my first day
Pandonetho
Profile Joined October 2009
Canada321 Posts
November 05 2010 15:38 GMT
#72
should have been warned/banned for self-martyring, one of the most smugly narcissistic things one can do on the internet


What's so narcissistic about it? Let alone I don't even know what self-martyring is. I simply replied that I have no further thoughts on this whole debate because it would only derail the thread farther with needless arguments. If you wanted me to keep arguing then you should have said so.

If you post a guide and/or strategy on TL and it is ineffective/not-the-best/bad people will point this out. Don't pull out the "elitist" card so fast. Come on. You open a thread that says KASS GUIDE, of course good players and top players are going to pick it apart because they simply disagree.


Yeah, I did overreact eventually so I apologize about that. In any case I've already gotten over it. Back to self-martyring I guess.
Brees
Profile Joined January 2010
Marshall Islands3404 Posts
November 05 2010 18:44 GMT
#73
wow this thread is horrid
Brees on in
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
November 05 2010 18:47 GMT
#74
it should be closed so that Utah can just make a kassadin thread and have the responsibility for updating it.
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Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
November 05 2010 18:53 GMT
#75
On November 06 2010 03:44 Brees wrote:
wow this thread is horrid


But I thought you played DPS Kassadin too, you traitor :|
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H
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
New Zealand6138 Posts
November 05 2010 19:11 GMT
#76
Ok yeah I am gonna go ahead and close this thread. Southlight you can make a thread and add your REAL guide to the OP. Anyone else is free to post their guides too, but expect criticism.
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