EPT[Champion] Kassadin - Page 3
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SuperJongMan
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crazeman
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-Kato-
Spain1146 Posts
On November 05 2010 02:30 Pandonetho wrote: So what you're saying is... we should all be elites and post nothing but guides that are used by pros. Oh in which case how many different builds could we see in this thread? One? Two? The Archangels build is not my invention. Neither is taking smite. Since you're all so inclined, you may as well all call me a noob. But guess what, this build works. Just check my profile in LoL (Pandonetho) And you'll see that I'm hardly a feeder in all the ranked games I've played as Kass. Yes, I actually would like to see only the agreed to be optimal build for that champion in the OP of all champion topics, with all its variations if you want, but let the OP be the best guide possible for that champion. Everyone can then use it as they like and obviously divert from it, according to their playstyle. When I check Leaguecraft for a guide, I look at the top rated ones and even then I can see they are not optimal, and thats when I come to TL and ask for a quick build, because it's what TL is for, "progaming", I want the best possible use of that champion. Of course you can be great with your build, but we shouldn't let it be the one in the OP, which is the one newbies will read first. I propose that all OP of champions be made by one of the accepted gosus of the TL community, or if someone opens with an actual optimal build, let it stay there. Or just edited. Thoughts? | ||
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barbsq
United States5348 Posts
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Ame
United States246 Posts
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Orpheos
United States1663 Posts
that being said kass' second summoner spell is definitely a preference thing. i get ghost because the meta is so bloated with ghosts, it feels bad to not have one for chases etc. but teleport could be good for some map control. and there arent any extremely necessary reasons to take a certain second summoner spell. although taking smite purely for farm is very meh... smite is best used for jungling because its important when getting the super neutral creeps. and just hitting the cannon minion is a very suboptimal use of a summoner skill slot. and a final note. dont take stuff on the internet so seriously. itll make you a much happier person. | ||
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TieN.nS)
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Redlol
United States181 Posts
On November 04 2010 16:59 Southlight wrote: Playing him He's a poking initiating nuking snarebot, that can also get anywhere he wants to ward (pretty safe warding) and can push lanes/towers like a boss. There's almost nothing you can't do with Kassadin, so this is entirely your playstyle. I play him as a tanky initiating poking snarebot, generally de-prioritizing actual damage output (hence not getting ZRing as fast as people like GJ) - most people don't, they play him like this whonky terrible-burst (only two nukes) nuking vulture but hey, whatever floats your boat as long as it works. I specifically wanted to emphasize this part of the post, there are a lot of things you can do with Kassadin, and his game is pretty dependent on staying alive until 6 while last hitting a good amount. I've been playing Kassadin quite a bit for a while now, and his versatility is amazing. About the only constant I've seen across my games, is that in almost every situation I will go Catalyst first, and then decide what to build next - RoA, Zhonyas, Mejais; there are situations where each and every Kassadin build can work very well. In the several months I have spent learning Kassadin, I still don't feel like I have him mastered, learning how to last hit effectively with him can be a huge pain - I think I'll try a few games with a Shield opener like Utahime was talking about, I almost exclusively open Ring and will end up buying 2 or 3 occasionally depending on the team, but a single Shield plus an earlier point in W with a Q heavy playstyle might work out really well in some of those tougher lanes. | ||
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r33k
Italy3402 Posts
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Southlight
United States11768 Posts
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New Zealand6138 Posts
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TheYango
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barbsq
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shawster
Canada2485 Posts
personally i dislike cleanse on any hero now unless it's a counter pick, e.g. they have ashe/sion/pantheon or something gay like that. i like flash because it's just so useful for all kinds of situations and ignite is cool on kass since he snowballs so hard so a firstblood is worth a summoner skill slot imo. but i play more of a hardcore ap kass style and i just really care about doing as much damage as possible and i copied dogkaisers mercury catalyst zhonya void staff build lol, #1 build | ||
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Southlight
United States11768 Posts
With regards to Flash... well, I think I made my stance on it clear in my short "guide." I don't have a recommendation of either: I prefer Ghost because of its distance-covered and duration, many prefer Flash because it's better vs. ranged DPS. | ||
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Southlight
United States11768 Posts
On November 05 2010 15:12 TheYango wrote: Sort of unfortunate that it was Kassadin the OP chose. Were it most other champs, people probably wouldn't have jumped on him so fast. Of course, TL has Utahime as "Number 1 Kass" so a Kassadin thread that's not started by Southlight just attracts a bunch of attention. For whatever it's worth, I disagree. Were he to have made an Annie, Morg, Ryze, etc. guide with Smite, he'd have received the same "O_o LOL" sort of response. I think the only thing that made things become a clusterfuck was that after I made my relatively harmless (I hope? I didn't inject much emotion into it except for the first sentence) response guide I felt like he became super defensive about his selection of Smite as a summoner spell, and became increasingly hostile and martyr-like, even through relatively rational responses like NeoIllusion's. | ||
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DefMatrixUltra
Canada1992 Posts
On November 05 2010 15:53 Southlight wrote: For whatever it's worth, I disagree. Were he to have made an Annie, Morg, Ryze, etc. guide with Smite, he'd have received the same "O_o LOL" sort of response. I think the only thing that made things become a clusterfuck was that after I made my relatively harmless (I hope? I didn't inject much emotion into it except for the first sentence) response guide I felt like he became super defensive about his selection of Smite as a summoner spell, and became increasingly hostile and martyr-like, even through relatively rational responses like NeoIllusion's. I think you owe the OP an apology for stealing his smite idea, though. | ||
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Southlight
United States11768 Posts
I upped the ante in that game and took Smite/Rally to be even more hilarious, and went DPS Kass to boot :D | ||
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On November 05 2010 15:53 Southlight wrote: For whatever it's worth, I disagree. Were he to have made an Annie, Morg, Ryze, etc. guide with Smite, he'd have received the same "O_o LOL" sort of response. I think the only thing that made things become a clusterfuck was that after I made my relatively harmless (I hope? I didn't inject much emotion into it except for the first sentence) response guide I felt like he became super defensive about his selection of Smite as a summoner spell, and became increasingly hostile and martyr-like, even through relatively rational responses like NeoIllusion's. Morg/Annie maybe. I don't think a Ryze thread would get enough attention, period.  Plus, with Ryze, he could always fall back on the excuse of "troll spells for a troll champ". | ||
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