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Leviance
Profile Joined November 2009
Germany4079 Posts
September 20 2010 16:40 GMT
#81
EU List is awesome! Only I don't like 9 Terrans over 2 Zerg ah well - with that list I can't really complain
"Blizzard is never gonna nerf Terran because of those American and European fuck" - Korean Netizen
Shika
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Sweden1711 Posts
September 20 2010 22:26 GMT
#82
This could become a great tournament. Only thing i'm a bit disappointed in is the lack of DarKFoRcE, especially when there's so few zergs in the tournament overall. He's really up and coming and i'd even say he's one of europes best right now.

I suggest you consider him as a substitute in case someone cannot attend.

Good luck with the tournament anyway, i'm looking forward to it.
BigT
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States304 Posts
September 20 2010 22:28 GMT
#83
On September 21 2010 07:26 Shika wrote:
This could become a great tournament. Only thing i'm a bit disappointed in is the lack of DarKFoRcE, especially when there's so few zergs in the tournament overall. He's really up and coming and i'd even say he's one of europes best right now.

I suggest you consider him as a substitute in case someone cannot attend.

Good luck with the tournament anyway, i'm looking forward to it.


Wow, thats crazy.... go read the latest update (that I made the exact time you made this post lol)... i think you'll probably be pleasantly surprised xD
Big T
Leviance
Profile Joined November 2009
Germany4079 Posts
September 20 2010 22:37 GMT
#84
Awesome! DarK.FoRcE hwaiting! First he won vs DeMusliM in EPS today, then he replaces him in the Big T Brawl :D
"Blizzard is never gonna nerf Terran because of those American and European fuck" - Korean Netizen
DarKFoRcE
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany1215 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-20 23:03:26
September 20 2010 23:03 GMT
#85
The Mappool for the prelims is horrible, i mean, kulas ravine and LT, what the fuck?
Follow me on Twitter: https://twitter.com/#!/PinDarKFoRcE
BigT
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States304 Posts
September 20 2010 23:05 GMT
#86
On September 21 2010 08:03 DarKFoRcE wrote:
The Mappool for the prelims is horrible, i mean, kulas ravine and LT, what the fuck?


Would you rather them in the finals? xD

That's why I put them in the prelims.... couldn't just put desert oasis as the starting map every round sorry dark
Big T
DarKFoRcE
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany1215 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-20 23:32:28
September 20 2010 23:27 GMT
#87
Thats not what im suggesting, but arent maps like xel naga caverns/Metalopolis/blistering more neutral? i mean, its your tourney, but maybe you want other races than T in the later rounds. i also dont see whats wrong with having the same starting map more than once, if that makes it more balanced.

To me it seems like all the good terrans maps (LT Kulas Steppes DQ), are in the mappool in either prelims or finals whereas the more zergy maps (Scrap, Desert, Blistering) are not in the pool at all. Maybe this is a matter of my personal preferences, but i actually think that at least most zerg players will agree with this.

And on kulas ravine even terran players agree that its just a default loss for zerg.
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dizzy101
Profile Joined August 2010
Netherlands2066 Posts
September 20 2010 23:42 GMT
#88
No Demuslim? He's arguably the EU's best terran...
BigT
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States304 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-21 00:13:35
September 21 2010 00:13 GMT
#89
On September 21 2010 08:27 DarKFoRcE wrote:
Thats not what im suggesting, but arent maps like xel naga caverns/Metalopolis/blistering more neutral? i mean, its your tourney, but maybe you want other races than T in the later rounds. i also dont see whats wrong with having the same starting map more than once, if that makes it more balanced.

To me it seems like all the good terrans maps (LT Kulas Steppes DQ), are in the mappool in either prelims or finals whereas the more zergy maps (Scrap, Desert, Blistering) are not in the pool at all. Maybe this is a matter of my personal preferences, but i actually think that at least most zerg players will agree with this.

And on kulas ravine even terran players agree that its just a default loss for zerg.


Not saying your wrong, i just dont know if its too late... I will definitely take this into consideration for the next touranment. Just remember, this IS going to be post patch 1.1.... So, i think that will make the maps more balanced afterwards... just my opinion!

On September 21 2010 08:42 dizzy101 wrote:
No Demuslim? He's arguably the EU's best terran...


I agree, it is quite a shame he was too busy to play
Big T
CuttyFlam
Profile Joined April 2010
Belgium523 Posts
September 21 2010 00:22 GMT
#90
Those maps are imbalanced for zerg cause of the cliffs, they put siege tanks or do MM drops on there you know..

Delayed reapers wont make those maps balanced again, neither will the tank dmg nerf, Terrans will still be able to drop them there.. Keeping these maps in the pool when u have the choice to pick Xel'Naga and blistering + desert oasis(destructible rocks added in patch 1.1) would not only damage your tourney but also further damage your reputation... just trying to help hehe
Leave it to ................... Luck!!
JAN0L
Profile Joined April 2010
Poland207 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-21 00:32:03
September 21 2010 00:28 GMT
#91
EU lineup is awesome hype hype hype
cant wait for that
BigT
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States304 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-21 00:31:40
September 21 2010 00:29 GMT
#92
On September 21 2010 09:22 CuttyFlam wrote:
Those maps are imbalanced for zerg cause of the cliffs, they put siege tanks or do MM drops on there you know..

Delayed reapers wont make those maps balanced again, neither will the tank dmg nerf, Terrans will still be able to drop them there.. Keeping these maps in the pool when u have the choice to pick Xel'Naga and blistering + desert oasis(destructible rocks added in patch 1.1) would not only damage your tourney but also further damage your reputation... just trying to help hehe


Like i JUST SAID, I don't think its a bad idea, but the rules have already been determined. And the new patch will 100% make those maps more balanced than they are right now... atleast a little bit :O
Big T
CuttyFlam
Profile Joined April 2010
Belgium523 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-21 00:36:21
September 21 2010 00:32 GMT
#93
U feel like it you say, quite an argument.. Every player who knows his game will confirm that zerg is Disadvantaged on those maps.and btw i hear you ranting on your stream about it, totally clueless.. Dude "that guy (me)is completely RIGHT not completely WRONG" . Only thing that is gonna change TvZ are slower reapers, and the fact that tanks do less damage after patch 1.1 wont change a damn thing about the fact that tanks still will be put up there , therefore denying zerg an easy expand.

Stop ignoring facts
Leave it to ................... Luck!!
Escoh
Profile Joined September 2010
United States3 Posts
September 21 2010 00:35 GMT
#94
Good job! Can not wait!
Alou
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States3748 Posts
September 21 2010 00:43 GMT
#95
Sorry if I missed this somewhere else, but will replays be available after the tournament is completed?

Also I agree with the Kulas hate, Blistering Sands or Scrap Station would be better choices in my opinion. Or something like Metalopolis twice.
Life is Good.
CuttyFlam
Profile Joined April 2010
Belgium523 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-21 00:58:12
September 21 2010 00:56 GMT
#96
Im talking about the fact that THESE MAPS will still be imbalanced, the game will be a little more balanced there your right, but i mean the MAPS themselves wil still be disavantageous for zerg!

And NO, its not gonna make a difference for the tanks on the cliffs, its not because they do less damage that the zerg are just gonna let there drones mine to get two-shotted instead of one-shotted.

Do u finally understand it now? i really hope so
Leave it to ................... Luck!!
BigT
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States304 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-21 01:02:42
September 21 2010 00:59 GMT
#97
On September 21 2010 09:32 CuttyFlam wrote:
U feel like it you say, quite an argument.. Every player who knows his game will confirm that zerg is Disadvantaged on those maps.and btw i hear you ranting on your stream about it, totally clueless.. Dude "that guy (me)is completely RIGHT not completely WRONG" . Only thing that is gonna change TvZ are slower reapers, and the fact that tanks do less damage after patch 1.1 wont change a damn thing about the fact that tanks still will be put up there , therefore denying zerg an easy expand.

Stop ignoring facts


I'm not ignoring the facts? It seems like you are... Even if the tanks are placed on the cliffs, they are still not as strong as they were, which is definitely going to make a difference, even if only a minor one. I'm not saying that it's going to completely make maps like kulas ravine and LT balanced for TvZ, but I'm just merely saying that it will be slightly more balanced atleast. Maybe thats where the miscommunication is ^^*

On September 21 2010 09:43 Alou wrote:
Sorry if I missed this somewhere else, but will replays be available after the tournament is completed?

Also I agree with the Kulas hate, Blistering Sands or Scrap Station would be better choices in my opinion. Or something like Metalopolis twice.


And yes, all of the replays will be released after the conclusion of the tournament, dont worry :D

And yes, I would agree with that, like I've said multiple times now, I will take that into consideration for the next Big T Brawl, but the rules for this one have already been set.

On September 21 2010 09:56 CuttyFlam wrote:
Im talking about the fact that THESE MAPS will still be imbalanced, the game will be a little more balanced there your right, but i mean the MAPS themselves wil still be disavantageous for zerg!

And NO, its not gonna make a difference for the tanks on the cliffs, its not because they do less damage that the zerg are just gonna let there drones mine to get two-shotted instead of one-shotted.

Do u finally understand it now? i really hope so


Exactly thanks :D
Big T
CuttyFlam
Profile Joined April 2010
Belgium523 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-21 01:19:31
September 21 2010 01:00 GMT
#98
And your not gonna do a thing about it? lol, your ridiculous
Leave it to ................... Luck!!
scrdmnttr
Profile Joined May 2010
United States96 Posts
September 21 2010 03:37 GMT
#99
No, you're ridiculous Cutty. Those are BLIZZARD official ladder maps. These are the most balanced maps as of yet. The game is still new, and Bliz has been reluctant to make any fast changes (including a more balanced map set). There is nothing that BigT, or any caster really, can do about that.
GeMan
Profile Joined August 2010
United States32 Posts
September 21 2010 05:44 GMT
#100
Man all zergs except Machine have terran first round, rough. Will watch as long as zerg players are left. Great tournament lineup I hope the casting is decent. Seems to be mixed opinions on this thread regarding BigT. I have only seen him ladder a couple times.
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