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On October 05 2010 09:54 crawlintik wrote:
@ chill
You prob shouldn't let your personal opinion decide who gets featured or not. Your not here to play favorites to be honest, your hear to expand E-sports and to help others enjoy it as well. You let your personal opinion decide weather or not BigT is featured or not. In my opion BigT has Great stream quality(one of the best), Awesome commentary, Great game play(talks about why or why he didn't do something, and discusses his BO) this i never see with half the featured streamer, and Bigt is one of the few that will sit and talk with the viewers. Heck none of the featured streamers talk with their viewers as much as BigT does(excluding Day9).
But again this is my opinion and shouldn't lead to him being featured.
What you should look at is Does BigT bring in viewers? Which he does, and i have notice that BigT has more viewers then most of the featured streamers that you have made featured. This is about expanding E-sports not deciding who is your best friend and who you do not like personally.
But again this is just me talking and hoping E-sports get big in NA. But it gets hard when people let their personal opinion speak for them.
One thing people don't take into account is also how hard it is to try to expand e-sports when I am getting cock blocked so hard. Expanding e-sports, specifically SC2, is my primary goal and it's just like a constant uphill battle trying to gain support and really expand SC2 the way I want to with all the negativity from tl for no good reason. I agree with you 100%. Opinions should not determine who gets featured or not, nor should politics, but that's just the world we live in.
I would just like to make a proposal. Just work with me for a couple of months. Feature me, see if tl completely ends because of it or not, and see just how much I'm able to do with the increased viewership. Because I can't say I'm the best caster or the most talented gamer, but I can say for damn sure that I'm the most driven, determined, and passionate streamer there is.
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On October 05 2010 09:54 crawlintik wrote:
Your not here to play favorites to be honest, your hear to expand E-sports and to help others enjoy it as well.
Is this a joke?
To be clear: I have no responsibility to "expand e-sports", whatever the fuck that may mean. My only goal is to put people on the TL feature list that I think belong there. If the people above me (administrators) don't think I'm doing my job well, then someone else will be given the role and they can do it via their own set of criteria.
If you have a problem with this, let's take it to PMs because this is derailing fast.
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On October 05 2010 12:18 Chill wrote:Show nested quote +On October 05 2010 09:54 crawlintik wrote:
Your not here to play favorites to be honest, your hear to expand E-sports and to help others enjoy it as well. If you have a problem with this, let's take it to PMs because this is derailing fast.
You should use your own advice...
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On October 05 2010 12:18 Chill wrote:Show nested quote +On October 05 2010 09:54 crawlintik wrote:
Your not here to play favorites to be honest, your hear to expand E-sports and to help others enjoy it as well. Is this a joke? To be clear: I have no responsibility to "expand e-sports", whatever the fuck that may mean. My only goal is to put people on the TL feature list that I think belong there. If the people above me (administrators) don't think I'm doing my job well, then someone else will be given the role and they can do it via their own set of criteria. If you have a problem with this, let's take it to PMs because this is derailing fast.
And my Point has been made.
Okay lets get this thread back on track. Who else cant wait to see Huk in this tournament?
Or see the final matched in Big T brawl i know I'm really excited.
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To be on topic: Did anyone every break up the vod for smaller use? Its still a pain in the ass to try navigating through that giant vod.
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Nah he just got back from casting a tournament so he will be working on it as soon as possible.
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Well i know that, but i thought he said he was trying to get someone else to do it so i was wondering if anyone ever took up the task.
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On October 05 2010 09:54 crawlintik wrote:
@ chill
You prob shouldn't let your personal opinion decide who gets featured or not. Your not here to play favorites to be honest, your hear to expand E-sports and to help others enjoy it as well. You let your personal opinion decide weather or not BigT is featured or not. In my opion BigT has Great stream quality(one of the best), Awesome commentary, Great game play(talks about why or why he didn't do something, and discusses his BO) this i never see with half the featured streamer, and Bigt is one of the few that will sit and talk with the viewers. Heck none of the featured streamers talk with their viewers as much as BigT does(excluding Day9).
But again this is my opinion and shouldn't lead to him being featured.
What you should look at is Does BigT bring in viewers? Which he does, and i have notice that BigT has more viewers then most of the featured streamers that you have made featured. This is about expanding E-sports not deciding who is your best friend and who you do not like personally.
But again this is just me talking and hoping E-sports get big in NA. But it gets hard when people let their personal opinion speak for them.
if esports is gonna get big its not gonna be because of people like bigt
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I don't really care about the outcome of this debate, but the gunrun point made above was a good one. He doesn't seem to know much about BW or SC2.
Sometimes it's easier to win arguments if you don't argue against what appears to be reality.
There is a popularity contest going on. Like anything, it's deniable by writing a trenchant reply to this post, but it's also true and obvious to anyone paying attention.
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On October 05 2010 13:19 IdrA wrote:Show nested quote +On October 05 2010 09:54 crawlintik wrote:
@ chill
You prob shouldn't let your personal opinion decide who gets featured or not. Your not here to play favorites to be honest, your hear to expand E-sports and to help others enjoy it as well. You let your personal opinion decide weather or not BigT is featured or not. In my opion BigT has Great stream quality(one of the best), Awesome commentary, Great game play(talks about why or why he didn't do something, and discusses his BO) this i never see with half the featured streamer, and Bigt is one of the few that will sit and talk with the viewers. Heck none of the featured streamers talk with their viewers as much as BigT does(excluding Day9).
But again this is my opinion and shouldn't lead to him being featured.
What you should look at is Does BigT bring in viewers? Which he does, and i have notice that BigT has more viewers then most of the featured streamers that you have made featured. This is about expanding E-sports not deciding who is your best friend and who you do not like personally.
But again this is just me talking and hoping E-sports get big in NA. But it gets hard when people let their personal opinion speak for them. if esports is gonna get big its not gonna be because of people like bigt
Every little bit helps but lets keep this thread on topic I am PM him and we are debating it there.
And it isn't going to get big with people like idra either.
See what i did there?
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This is a misunderstanding that just went awfully wrong.
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Tourney is great so far, Only question is Why are Morrow and DImaga facing each other in round one...
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On October 05 2010 13:19 IdrA wrote:Show nested quote +On October 05 2010 09:54 crawlintik wrote:
@ chill
You prob shouldn't let your personal opinion decide who gets featured or not. Your not here to play favorites to be honest, your hear to expand E-sports and to help others enjoy it as well. You let your personal opinion decide weather or not BigT is featured or not. In my opion BigT has Great stream quality(one of the best), Awesome commentary, Great game play(talks about why or why he didn't do something, and discusses his BO) this i never see with half the featured streamer, and Bigt is one of the few that will sit and talk with the viewers. Heck none of the featured streamers talk with their viewers as much as BigT does(excluding Day9).
But again this is my opinion and shouldn't lead to him being featured.
What you should look at is Does BigT bring in viewers? Which he does, and i have notice that BigT has more viewers then most of the featured streamers that you have made featured. This is about expanding E-sports not deciding who is your best friend and who you do not like personally.
But again this is just me talking and hoping E-sports get big in NA. But it gets hard when people let their personal opinion speak for them. if esports is gonna get big its not gonna be because of people like bigt
Sorry Idra, your wrong about this one. Esports may not get big directly because of me or even because of me at all. But, esports will definitely get big because of people LIKE me. You have no idea how much shit I have to put up with (or maybe you do) and still how much I'm able to accomplish. People like me, determined, motivated, and passionate about sc2, will definitely make esports bigger.
On October 05 2010 18:48 dapierow wrote:
Tourney is great so far, Only question is Why are Morrow and DImaga facing each other in round one...
Because with 16 great players from EU, you'd have to expect atleast one decent first round match 
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bigt might not be your cup of tea(tee-hee) but you guys need to chill out(now that was unintentional). Okay fine he rubs you the wrong way, but so what. It doesnt mean you should put out a vendetta against him, there are people that are genuinely entertained by what he does. What is wrong with that?
I think amongst firemen who dont put out fires and soldiers who kill afghan people for fun BigT ranks as pretty fucking cool dude. So maybe you need to focus less on your personal impression of him and judge him for the job he does and the entertainment he brings to people?
I think he does fairly fucking A on that and maybe some incentive and encouragement for him would be a nice thing to do? And if he already managed to put out a 1 grand tournament while being no where as popular as Day/Husky or GLHF says something regarding his ability to indeed promote e-sports?
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On October 05 2010 19:22 BigT wrote:Show nested quote +On October 05 2010 13:19 IdrA wrote:On October 05 2010 09:54 crawlintik wrote:
@ chill
You prob shouldn't let your personal opinion decide who gets featured or not. Your not here to play favorites to be honest, your hear to expand E-sports and to help others enjoy it as well. You let your personal opinion decide weather or not BigT is featured or not. In my opion BigT has Great stream quality(one of the best), Awesome commentary, Great game play(talks about why or why he didn't do something, and discusses his BO) this i never see with half the featured streamer, and Bigt is one of the few that will sit and talk with the viewers. Heck none of the featured streamers talk with their viewers as much as BigT does(excluding Day9).
But again this is my opinion and shouldn't lead to him being featured.
What you should look at is Does BigT bring in viewers? Which he does, and i have notice that BigT has more viewers then most of the featured streamers that you have made featured. This is about expanding E-sports not deciding who is your best friend and who you do not like personally.
But again this is just me talking and hoping E-sports get big in NA. But it gets hard when people let their personal opinion speak for them. if esports is gonna get big its not gonna be because of people like bigt Sorry Idra, your wrong about this one. Esports may not get big directly because of me or even because of me at all. But, esports will definitely get big because of people LIKE me.
exactly, but people LIKE you dont actually have any talents, any defining traits. you just have to be able to say things that are wrong while watching a game of sc2 and annoying the people playing it. anyone can do that, its tl's judgement that you arent one of the more appealing people doing it, so they're not helping promote you. its perfectly reasonable.
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hah i love this thread @chill just ignore the chumps u have no reason to respond to them more then once after u said ur piece just ignore em. BTW @idra diammmmmmmmm lovin the couple posts just layin down the hammer with no restraint haha god bless TL threads :-D
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not sure how many times Chill has made an ass off himself on his stream, thrash talking players etc. How on earth does he see that as helping the community ? The sooner he is removed from the viewer list all together the better.
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