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UPDATE: Individual VODs are being uploaded slowly but surely! Also I will be changing some of the cast dates because I will be attending MLG DC!
UPDATE: VOD is up!!
UPDATE: Results for Day 1 have been updated! VODs will be avaialble shortly!!
UPDATE: Results section added!
UPDATE: Satiini replaces TLO!
+ Show Spoiler +Due to latency problems and players not being able to get access to NA, TLO could not play.
I am pleased to announce my tournament series, Big T Brawl, will finally be getting underway! I was waiting for my website, but it was just moving too slow, so I decided to go ahead and get it started ASAP, hopefully you guys don't mind 
This thread will be updated as more information comes up, so please make sure to continually check back!
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+ Show Spoiler +BIG THANKS to FLCarguy for sponsoring this event!
If you or your company is interested in sponsoring or donating to this tournament or a future one, please contact me at christurner23@live.com!
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+ Show Spoiler +Prelims
-2 NA 8 player prelims
-2 EU 8 player prelims
-BO3 Quarterfinals and Semifinals
-BO5 Finals
-Refer to map rotation for game 1, then loser picks
-Top 2 players from each prelim advances into the finals
Finals
-8 players consisting of the top 2 players from each prelim
-BO3 Quarterfinals
-BO5 Semifinals
-BO5 3rd Place
-BO7 Finals
-Refer to map rotation for game 1, then loser picks
Big T Brawl will essentially match up the "best of NA" vs the "best of EU". It will also be a series of tournaments hosted every couple of months.
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+ Show Spoiler +Casts will be live every Saturday and Sunday @ 4PM EST starting Sunday September 26th!
Prelims
-Sunday September 26th: TT1 vs Murder, Kiwikaki vs QXC, Slush vs Kawaiirice, Fenix vs Nony, Haypro vs Sjow, Satiini vs Darkforce, Lucifron vs White-Ra, Strelok vs Tarson
-Saturday October 9th: Drewbie vs Select, Gretorp vs Ajtls, Iefnaij vs Machine, Incontrol vs Huk, Mana vs Jinro, Morrow vs Dimaga, Bratok vs Naniwa, Socke vs Nightend
-Sunday October 10th: TT1 vs Kiwikaki, Kawaiirice vs Fenix, Sjow vs Darkforce, and Lucifron vs Strelok
-Saturday October 16th: NA Prelim 2 Semi-Finals and EU Prelim 2 Semi-Finals
-Sunday October 17th: All Prelim Finals
Finals
-Saturday October 23rd: Quarterfinals
-Sunday October 24th: Semifinals
-Saturday October 30th: 3rd Place Match and Grand Finals
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+ Show Spoiler +NA Players1.  Huk 2. Kiwikaki 3.  Ajtls 4. Fenix 5.  Slush 6. Qxc 7. Tt1 8. Iefnaij 9. Machine 10. Select 11. Incontrol 12. Kawaiirice 13. Drewbie 14. Nony 15. Gretorp 16. Cauthonluck EU Players1. Dimaga 2. Haypro 3. Socke 4. Nightend 5. Morrow 6. Naniwa 7. White-ra 8. Tarson 9. TLO 10. Strelok 11. Jinro 12. Mana 13. Darkforce 14. Bratok 15. Sjow 16. Lucifron 11 5 16
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Quarterfinals: Metalopolis
Semifinals: Blistering Sands
Finals: Lost Temple
Finals
Quarterfinals: Xel Naga Caverns
Semfinals: Delta Quadrant
Finals: Steppes of War
Loser will be able to pick any map in the quick match map pool.
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+ Show Spoiler +Big T Brawl NA1TT1 2-0 Murder Kiwikaki 2-1 QXC Slush 1-2 KawaiiRiceFenix 2-0 Nony Big T Brawl EU1Haypro 0-2 SjowSatiini 1-2 DarkforceLucifron 2-0 White-Ra Strelok 2-0 Tarson
Special thanks to HyunThePanda for making the banners and VirtuaMD for the brackets!
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not a fan of BiGT's casting, but regardless looks like you put a good tournament together, so well done on that partmate... look forward to seeing it unfold
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Only 2 zergs 
Edit: Still looking forward to the tourney tho
Nony, Gretorp and qxc HWAITING!!
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wow haven't heard of Yosh in a while
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Could have had more Zergs (Sheth, CatZ, etc), but this is alright I guess. I'll tune in for the games probably. Will replays be released? 
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more z less t .
looks like great tourney tho . wonder how yosh been doing
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Nice prizes, nice players, can't wait.
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Looks awesome ! looking forward to the tvts since im looking for some new tvt builds
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zergs are a rare breed folks.... doesnt help my boy sheth is taking a break... expect some more zergs from euro though :D
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IefNaij, not EifNaij... lol Yosh... gonna be an interesting tourney D:
actually, kick his ass Nony!!!
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What's with the second bracket? There's two TvT and a PvP. Why not mix 'em up?
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On September 17 2010 11:55 wuddersup wrote:
What's with the second bracket? There's two TvT and a PvP. Why not mix 'em up?
Because i wanted to be as unbiased as possible so i just randomly generated the brackets.... I think overall, it turned out quite well :O
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Good work man, let the brawling begin.
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Thanks BigT, look forward to the tourny
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i didn't even realize yosh played sc2
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sounds great, good job! im looking forward to it^^
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On September 17 2010 12:00 FragKrag wrote:
i didn't even realize yosh played sc2
same, i have a rl friend that knows yosh :o
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On September 17 2010 12:00 FragKrag wrote:
i didn't even realize yosh played sc2
apparently he's been helping lots of people, like lastshadow and a few others
I'm kinda interested in seeing him play, but seriously I hope that Nony destroys him
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i hope nony does well. he was my fav beta protoss
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Nice all the top NA players and a decent Prize pool can't wait to see these games.
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Oh man, sounds like it's going to be a good watch. Can't wait :D
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Glad I could help out in some way. I'm excited to watch the tournament.
(If anyone else needs any graphics done hit me up)
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This tourny looks good, all it needs is a decent caster.
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On September 17 2010 12:58 Tachion wrote:
This tourny looks good, all it needs is a decent caster.
I Agree! May watch replays though.
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Kiwi will win this ezmode >.<
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Really looking forward too this, BigT is one of the best casters imo.
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USA29055 Posts
huk first round in 2 tourneys tt
MLG practice hehe!
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I am looking forward to Bigger T's unaffiliated recast.
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why so much hate on Big T?
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Wow, great players and nice prize pool. Good work and best of luck with the tournament.
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what is yosh's sc2 acct omg yosh is so good ( at bw )
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Awesome Job T! Great lineup. So many good players I just can't pick a favorite.
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On September 17 2010 13:12 Inkarnate wrote:Show nested quote +On September 17 2010 12:58 Tachion wrote:
This tourny looks good, all it needs is a decent caster. I Agree! May watch replays though.
agreed
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Wow great list of players can't wait to see the EU list.
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wow, looks great i'm looking forward to it, gl and thanks for the hard work ^^
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On September 17 2010 14:33 Toke wrote:
no idra? NOOOOO
well bigT does hate Idra 
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nice lineup for NA i hope for some big names in EU bracket(Dimaga, Brat_OK, TLO?)
idra lives in korea i think i wouldint invite him to NA bracket too
and i got no problems with BigT casting i just hope for some good games
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Awesome, looking foward to Nony matchs, we don't see enough of his games.
Also, BigT might not be the best caster out there but In my opinion he's way above HD and Husky, most of you hate just to hate.
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really pumped too see yosh play
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Lots of love for BigT, seems to be shaping up to be a good tournament. F- the haters yo : D
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United States14 Posts
Best of luck to all the participants and thanks to BigT for putting this together/casting it!
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why only 2 zergs for NA..
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seeded brackets always > randomly generated brackets
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Great tourney...can't wait to watch it. Well done BigT
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This is going to be great. Nice effort BigT, you are the coolest.
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Are BigT and BiggerT brothers?
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See, I'm new and don't know Big T, so when I saw this thread, I thought "Thank goodness, a tournament for JUST Terrans. It'll be the most balanced tournament for the past two months."
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On September 18 2010 19:40 UberThing wrote:
Are BigT and BiggerT brothers?
BiggerT is Chill being a dick to BigT who was being a dick in general.
Way to go with setting up a tournament, I won't be watching it though.
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Sorry but, there was just no way that I could possibly seed the players for the prelims... I will do SOME seeding for the finals, but even then, there's not much I can do...
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8 terran 6 toss 2 zerg... Thats really unfortunate, won't be interesting for me with only 2 zergs.
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Also not many zerg players.... like i said sheth is taking a hiatus... he would have made 3 but, there are just no zerg players (that i know of)
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So psyched for this, BigT is probably the most underrated caster on the TL stream lineup. Don't hate, people
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Hope Sen can get an invite even tho he's technically not euro
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On September 19 2010 00:11 Xeris wrote:
Hope Sen can get an invite even tho he's technically not euro
Was actually just debating this to get another zerg player in the tourney... We'll see shortly
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Screw da haters, GL with the tourney.
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let me know if you need contact
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Exciting! I haven't seen Cluck play in many tournaments lately, wonder if he's still got his stuff
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Maybe the patch will make more zergs available..
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Absolutely love BigT, hope this will be great success =)
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Looks like a fun tournament, good luck!
Edit: If you can, get Sen! Awesome Zerg player.
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xeris always on top of promoting the shit out of his players
+4 ****'s
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Looking forward to this, except group 2 all the non-terrans have to fight each other.
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On September 20 2010 02:19 HuK wrote:
xeris always on top of promoting the shit out of his players
+4 ****'s
LOL didn't even realize thats what he was doing xD
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On September 20 2010 02:19 HuK wrote:
xeris always on top of promoting the shit out of his players
+4 ****'s
bingo.
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Looks like an awesome tourney, but 50% T is kinda bad. Would be better with more toss and zerg!
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For EU would be awesome:
T:
MorroW
Brat_OK
DeMuslim
TLO
Sjow
P:
Naniwa
Socke
Mana
HasuObs
NightEnd
Z:
Dimaga
HayprO
Ret
Madfrog
DarKFoRcE
Tefel
Of course some could be switched for equal players.
This whole tourney sounds really cool.
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On September 20 2010 04:38 Leviance wrote:
For EU would be awesome:
T:
MorroW
Brat_OK
DeMuslim
TLO
Sjow
P:
Naniwa
Socke
Mana
HasuObs
NightEnd
Z:
Dimaga
HayprO
Ret
Madfrog
DarKFoRcE
Tefel
Of course some could be switched for equal players.
This whole tourney sounds really cool.
Nice list, EU brackets will be out by tonight. I think you (and everyone else) will really like it
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Awesome job BigT, EU brackets looks v. nice.
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Nicely done Big T. Very neat and crisp tourney, can't wait to watch this.
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Tournament should bring us epic games. Curious though about a BEST of NA vs BEST of EU. That games will really be worth calling FINALS.
Nice prize pool also. It should be very motivating. Doesn't say if its same for EU and NA, but like I said, will be very motivating.
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EU List is awesome! Only I don't like 9 Terrans over 2 Zerg ah well - with that list I can't really complain
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This could become a great tournament. Only thing i'm a bit disappointed in is the lack of DarKFoRcE, especially when there's so few zergs in the tournament overall. He's really up and coming and i'd even say he's one of europes best right now.
I suggest you consider him as a substitute in case someone cannot attend.
Good luck with the tournament anyway, i'm looking forward to it.
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On September 21 2010 07:26 Shika wrote:
This could become a great tournament. Only thing i'm a bit disappointed in is the lack of DarKFoRcE, especially when there's so few zergs in the tournament overall. He's really up and coming and i'd even say he's one of europes best right now.
I suggest you consider him as a substitute in case someone cannot attend.
Good luck with the tournament anyway, i'm looking forward to it.
Wow, thats crazy.... go read the latest update (that I made the exact time you made this post lol)... i think you'll probably be pleasantly surprised xD
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Awesome! DarK.FoRcE hwaiting! First he won vs DeMusliM in EPS today, then he replaces him in the Big T Brawl :D
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Germany1215 Posts
The Mappool for the prelims is horrible, i mean, kulas ravine and LT, what the fuck?
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On September 21 2010 08:03 DarKFoRcE wrote:
The Mappool for the prelims is horrible, i mean, kulas ravine and LT, what the fuck?
Would you rather them in the finals? xD
That's why I put them in the prelims.... couldn't just put desert oasis as the starting map every round sorry dark
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Germany1215 Posts
Thats not what im suggesting, but arent maps like xel naga caverns/Metalopolis/blistering more neutral? i mean, its your tourney, but maybe you want other races than T in the later rounds. i also dont see whats wrong with having the same starting map more than once, if that makes it more balanced.
To me it seems like all the good terrans maps (LT Kulas Steppes DQ), are in the mappool in either prelims or finals whereas the more zergy maps (Scrap, Desert, Blistering) are not in the pool at all. Maybe this is a matter of my personal preferences, but i actually think that at least most zerg players will agree with this.
And on kulas ravine even terran players agree that its just a default loss for zerg.
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No Demuslim? He's arguably the EU's best terran...
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On September 21 2010 08:27 DarKFoRcE wrote:
Thats not what im suggesting, but arent maps like xel naga caverns/Metalopolis/blistering more neutral? i mean, its your tourney, but maybe you want other races than T in the later rounds. i also dont see whats wrong with having the same starting map more than once, if that makes it more balanced.
To me it seems like all the good terrans maps (LT Kulas Steppes DQ), are in the mappool in either prelims or finals whereas the more zergy maps (Scrap, Desert, Blistering) are not in the pool at all. Maybe this is a matter of my personal preferences, but i actually think that at least most zerg players will agree with this.
And on kulas ravine even terran players agree that its just a default loss for zerg.
Not saying your wrong, i just dont know if its too late... I will definitely take this into consideration for the next touranment. Just remember, this IS going to be post patch 1.1.... So, i think that will make the maps more balanced afterwards... just my opinion!
On September 21 2010 08:42 dizzy101 wrote:
No Demuslim? He's arguably the EU's best terran...
I agree, it is quite a shame he was too busy to play
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Those maps are imbalanced for zerg cause of the cliffs, they put siege tanks or do MM drops on there you know..
Delayed reapers wont make those maps balanced again, neither will the tank dmg nerf, Terrans will still be able to drop them there.. Keeping these maps in the pool when u have the choice to pick Xel'Naga and blistering + desert oasis(destructible rocks added in patch 1.1) would not only damage your tourney but also further damage your reputation... just trying to help hehe
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EU lineup is awesome hype hype hype
cant wait for that
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On September 21 2010 09:22 CuttyFlam wrote:
Those maps are imbalanced for zerg cause of the cliffs, they put siege tanks or do MM drops on there you know..
Delayed reapers wont make those maps balanced again, neither will the tank dmg nerf, Terrans will still be able to drop them there.. Keeping these maps in the pool when u have the choice to pick Xel'Naga and blistering + desert oasis(destructible rocks added in patch 1.1) would not only damage your tourney but also further damage your reputation... just trying to help hehe
Like i JUST SAID, I don't think its a bad idea, but the rules have already been determined. And the new patch will 100% make those maps more balanced than they are right now... atleast a little bit :O
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U feel like it you say, quite an argument.. Every player who knows his game will confirm that zerg is Disadvantaged on those maps.and btw i hear you ranting on your stream about it, totally clueless.. Dude "that guy (me)is completely RIGHT not completely WRONG" . Only thing that is gonna change TvZ are slower reapers, and the fact that tanks do less damage after patch 1.1 wont change a damn thing about the fact that tanks still will be put up there , therefore denying zerg an easy expand.
Stop ignoring facts
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Sorry if I missed this somewhere else, but will replays be available after the tournament is completed?
Also I agree with the Kulas hate, Blistering Sands or Scrap Station would be better choices in my opinion. Or something like Metalopolis twice.
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Im talking about the fact that THESE MAPS will still be imbalanced, the game will be a little more balanced there your right, but i mean the MAPS themselves wil still be disavantageous for zerg!
And NO, its not gonna make a difference for the tanks on the cliffs, its not because they do less damage that the zerg are just gonna let there drones mine to get two-shotted instead of one-shotted.
Do u finally understand it now? i really hope so
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On September 21 2010 09:32 CuttyFlam wrote:
U feel like it you say, quite an argument.. Every player who knows his game will confirm that zerg is Disadvantaged on those maps.and btw i hear you ranting on your stream about it, totally clueless.. Dude "that guy (me)is completely RIGHT not completely WRONG" . Only thing that is gonna change TvZ are slower reapers, and the fact that tanks do less damage after patch 1.1 wont change a damn thing about the fact that tanks still will be put up there , therefore denying zerg an easy expand.
Stop ignoring facts
I'm not ignoring the facts? It seems like you are... Even if the tanks are placed on the cliffs, they are still not as strong as they were, which is definitely going to make a difference, even if only a minor one. I'm not saying that it's going to completely make maps like kulas ravine and LT balanced for TvZ, but I'm just merely saying that it will be slightly more balanced atleast. Maybe thats where the miscommunication is ^^*
On September 21 2010 09:43 Alou wrote:
Sorry if I missed this somewhere else, but will replays be available after the tournament is completed?
Also I agree with the Kulas hate, Blistering Sands or Scrap Station would be better choices in my opinion. Or something like Metalopolis twice.
And yes, all of the replays will be released after the conclusion of the tournament, dont worry :D
And yes, I would agree with that, like I've said multiple times now, I will take that into consideration for the next Big T Brawl, but the rules for this one have already been set.
On September 21 2010 09:56 CuttyFlam wrote:
Im talking about the fact that THESE MAPS will still be imbalanced, the game will be a little more balanced there your right, but i mean the MAPS themselves wil still be disavantageous for zerg!
And NO, its not gonna make a difference for the tanks on the cliffs, its not because they do less damage that the zerg are just gonna let there drones mine to get two-shotted instead of one-shotted.
Do u finally understand it now? i really hope so
Exactly thanks :D
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And your not gonna do a thing about it? lol, your ridiculous
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No, you're ridiculous Cutty. Those are BLIZZARD official ladder maps. These are the most balanced maps as of yet. The game is still new, and Bliz has been reluctant to make any fast changes (including a more balanced map set). There is nothing that BigT, or any caster really, can do about that.
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Man all zergs except Machine have terran first round, rough. Will watch as long as zerg players are left. Great tournament lineup I hope the casting is decent. Seems to be mixed opinions on this thread regarding BigT. I have only seen him ladder a couple times.
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Looks like this is going to be a great tournament, gl HUK!
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Other?
My bet's on Chuck Norris.
Nuff said.
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Good job BigT, will be tuning in!
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good luck with this man, brackets look amazing.
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Hey BigT are these matches being cast live? I'm asking because on the NA side it could be a bit of an issue on Saturday, October 16 (Quarterfinals) and Sunday, October 17 (Semifinals) because of MLG DC (October 15-17)
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On September 19 2010 00:04 elite_oracle wrote:
So psyched for this, BigT is probably the most underrated caster on the TL stream lineup. Don't hate, people
I think BigT is a great caster. I love watching his streams. The only reasons I can think of that people hate him for are:
1. He's polite.
2. He doesn't swear a lot.
3. He isn't drowning out his stream with music as he plays.
Hey BigT, the one thing I enjoyed watching you do was an impromptu King of the Hill one Friday night. You just had single eliminations and whoever was the champion when you went to bed was King. I thought that impromptu "tournament" was the best thing I've seen you do.
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Although I think it's just great that Kulas got replaced by Blistering, I still think that Scrap Station should also replace LT or Steppes
If you don't feel comfortable editing the pool for the prelims, then at least you could consider replacing Steppes with Scrap Station for the Finals; I'm not a huge fan of Scrap Station, but it's easily better than Steppes;
btw. I'm Protoss, so unless it's Kulas, which is so imbalanced that it even destroys TvT, I don't have a particular bias concerning maps.....but still I do think that it's a bit unfair that LT and Steppes are starting maps while neither Desert Oasis nor Scrap Station are
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Hopefully you'll let other casters into the games similarly to how you sneak into games you're not involved with, because while this is a great tourney I'm not the biggest fan of your casting.
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Just fucking put Desert Oasis as the standard first map of the preliminary rounds. What will happen?
1. Zergs will advance
2. Terran and Protoss will be forced to use their skill instead of their race to win.
3. Epic games and not the same old 8minute bullshit we already have everywhere.
There's a reason why it's Day9's favorite map.
Same for Scrap Station. Just put it in. You don't want your players to be comfortable, you want them to have to invent new stuff that is exciting and not their cookie cutter race-abuse ladder strategy
edit: oh yeah im terran
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On September 21 2010 22:58 ChickenLips wrote:
There's a reason why it's Day9's favorite map.
still, for DO to be a great map, it has way too many flaws - just to mention the two most annoying:
a) close air-distance; although this actually doesn't hurt zerg that bad it is quite a pain for protoss; you either have to go for phoenix or leave a good amount of stalkers in your base; otherwise muta-harass or terran-marauder-drop will just roflpwn you.....running back is simply not an option once you go for an attack
b) the ledge near the main; once terran gets a tank + a couple marines there he has a HUGE advantage, it's even worse than on LT; also can be abused by blink stalkers, especially vs zerg; hongunprime did this in his 2nd ro64-match if I remember correctly
so I think scrap station should just replace LT or steppes....then I would be perfectly happy
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Long time forum visitor, just made an account I just wanted to figure out why people wouldn't be BigT fans? I don't get it. I play Terran and I watch BigT's stream almost daily because it's damn entertaining. Sure there are lots of Terran streams I could probably watch, but I don't want some death metal band blasting away during the cast and I don't want to see the same strategy play out repeatedly and I want a caster who is mature and knows how to play the game and how to act. Rarely does he get really angry and pissed off or do or say something he shouldn't. He is also hosting this AMAZING tournament, sure you can take issue with some of the maps but seriously, have you looked at this lineup of players? They could play every game on the exact same map and it would still be very entertaining!
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On September 21 2010 12:37 scrdmnttr wrote:
No, you're ridiculous Cutty. Those are BLIZZARD official ladder maps. These are the most balanced maps as of yet. The game is still new, and Bliz has been reluctant to make any fast changes (including a more balanced map set). There is nothing that BigT, or any caster really, can do about that.
READ all previous posts before saying completely stupid stuff... he CAN do something about it, just by changing those maps to other BLIZZARD maps who are known to be more balanced.. jeez. some brains plz?
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Any chance of a BiggerT restreamcast? Now that would be exciting.
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tlo should win since he live with tl team and ogs team to practice, not to mention asia server to practice on. also playing all day long im just gonna throw jinro up here for same reason. if idra was playing id say he was winning
well see tho, the new patch might take a while to learn so it will be alot of random games and upsets probably
i think it wouldnt be too retarded to use DO now because of the new patch  would be nice to see if its still horribad
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Ok guys, if you didnt see, i did change kulas ravine for blistering sands so please no more discussion about changing the maps for now. I will take into consideration changing the map pool around for Big T Brawl 2!
Also make sure to re-check the CAST DATES. I had to modify them because i am casting the WCG Finals and will not be available next weekend.
And I cannot wait for this tournament, its going to be awesome!!
And youll do just fine morrow
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Nicely done BigT, a good sign of willingness to improve.
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On September 22 2010 05:39 BigT wrote:Ok guys, if you didnt see, i did change kulas ravine for blistering sands so please no more discussion about changing the maps for now. I will take into consideration changing the map pool around for Big T Brawl 2! Also make sure to re-check the CAST DATES. I had to modify them because i am casting the WCG Finals and will not be available next weekend. And I cannot wait for this tournament, its going to be awesome!! And youll do just fine morrow
Dude you won that contest?! Congrats!
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Did you read my comment about the quarter and semi-finals coinciding with MLG? :/
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On September 22 2010 06:30 GenoZStriker wrote:
Did you read my comment about the quarter and semi-finals coinciding with MLG? :/
Yes i did sorry, all games will be played beforehand and I will be casting the replays! Thanks for looking out ^^*
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Gj dude, i will be watching
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the brackets looks really good, looking forward to this
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Sweet, glad you finally got your tourney going, looking forward to it.
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On September 22 2010 02:32 MorroW wrote:
tlo should win since he live with tl team and ogs team to practice, not to mention asia server to practice on.
tbh I think lag will own him, if he plays from korea - hellions are like the worst unit to control when having delay or spikes and currently his "standard"-play seems quite centered around them
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gj mate BigT i think its going to be an amazing tour.
u go SAF.Jesus aka BigT! :D
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Great entertainment. Looking forward to the matches.
Good job!
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On September 17 2010 11:50 TheAngelofDeath wrote:
Gretorp <3
That dude still owes me a handjob
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BiggerT casting?
If so, Im watching.
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Brackets look awesome, can't wait for this <3
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Since people llllooooove race distribution numbers, here they are.
Terran - 16
Protoss - 11
Zerg - 5
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Tournament looks great.
Only thing I'll say is that looking at the schedule...it seems pretty drawn out. Going to be hard to not miss something along the way.
I've seen you cast BigT...you have stamina. Surely you could bust this thing out a bit faster!
Either way...can't wait.
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Belgium9947 Posts
On September 23 2010 06:40 Xeris wrote:
BigT = SAF.Jesus ? O_O:
Yeah.
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On September 21 2010 22:37 Gnoetall wrote:Show nested quote +On September 19 2010 00:04 elite_oracle wrote:
So psyched for this, BigT is probably the most underrated caster on the TL stream lineup. Don't hate, people I think BigT is a great caster. I love watching his streams. The only reasons I can think of that people hate him for are: 1. He's polite.2. He doesn't swear a lot. 3. He isn't drowning out his stream with music as he plays. Hey BigT, the one thing I enjoyed watching you do was an impromptu King of the Hill one Friday night. You just had single eliminations and whoever was the champion when you went to bed was King. I thought that impromptu "tournament" was the best thing I've seen you do.
He's definitely pissed off some people he's cast and people watching his casts due to actions that you normally don't expect from a grown adult, so I'm not sure about that first item on your list. However, if he's casting from replays it might be a sign that he really does try to respect his players. Might be a turning point and I'd give him a chance instead of instantly hate-blocking him.
Edit: There's a reason the "bandwagon-o-hate" got started. If you don't know what they are, that's fine. This isn't a hate-on-BigT thread so I don't feel it appropriate to list them. Do a search if it's really important for you to know.
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On September 24 2010 02:48 urashimakt wrote:Show nested quote +On September 21 2010 22:37 Gnoetall wrote:On September 19 2010 00:04 elite_oracle wrote:
So psyched for this, BigT is probably the most underrated caster on the TL stream lineup. Don't hate, people I think BigT is a great caster. I love watching his streams. The only reasons I can think of that people hate him for are: 1. He's polite.2. He doesn't swear a lot. 3. He isn't drowning out his stream with music as he plays. Hey BigT, the one thing I enjoyed watching you do was an impromptu King of the Hill one Friday night. You just had single eliminations and whoever was the champion when you went to bed was King. I thought that impromptu "tournament" was the best thing I've seen you do. He's definitely pissed off some people he's cast and people watching his casts due to actions that you normally don't expect from a grown adult, so I'm not sure about that first item on your list. However, if he's casting from replays it might be a sign that he really does try to respect his players. Might be a turning point and I'd give him a chance instead of instantly hate-blocking him.
I'm not exactly sure what he did to piss people off as i have only heard generalities. I will say though that the response from TL was equally childish. Recasting his stream and making fun of him for hours on end while giggling like a little school girl is not behavior I would expect from a grown adult either. I mean, Chill seems like a pretty cool guy and maybe I am just misinformed, but all the shit BigT gets from people jumping on the bandwagon-o-hate seems really petty and immature from my perspective.
edit: anyway, not the point of this thread.
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On September 22 2010 19:24 sleepingdog wrote:Show nested quote +On September 22 2010 02:32 MorroW wrote:
tlo should win since he live with tl team and ogs team to practice, not to mention asia server to practice on. tbh I think lag will own him, if he plays from korea - hellions are like the worst unit to control when having delay or spikes and currently his "standard"-play seems quite centered around them
I think this will be a non issue lag is not constant and most the time not present at all.
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Lol Dimaga's got 5% on the poll and he's such a strong player. Unfortunately it's hard to get any higher poll-score as zerg
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On September 24 2010 02:14 RaGe wrote:Yeah.
lol i didnt know that hahaha
hihi jesus
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Yes i am Jesus from SC1, hi everyone! Sorry for not telling anyone, didn't think anyone would really care haha.
On September 24 2010 03:22 DTown wrote:Show nested quote +On September 24 2010 02:48 urashimakt wrote:On September 21 2010 22:37 Gnoetall wrote:On September 19 2010 00:04 elite_oracle wrote:
So psyched for this, BigT is probably the most underrated caster on the TL stream lineup. Don't hate, people I think BigT is a great caster. I love watching his streams. The only reasons I can think of that people hate him for are: 1. He's polite.2. He doesn't swear a lot. 3. He isn't drowning out his stream with music as he plays. Hey BigT, the one thing I enjoyed watching you do was an impromptu King of the Hill one Friday night. You just had single eliminations and whoever was the champion when you went to bed was King. I thought that impromptu "tournament" was the best thing I've seen you do. He's definitely pissed off some people he's cast and people watching his casts due to actions that you normally don't expect from a grown adult, so I'm not sure about that first item on your list. However, if he's casting from replays it might be a sign that he really does try to respect his players. Might be a turning point and I'd give him a chance instead of instantly hate-blocking him. I'm not exactly sure what he did to piss people off as i have only heard generalities. I will say though that the response from TL was equally childish. Recasting his stream and making fun of him for hours on end while giggling like a little school girl is not behavior I would expect from a grown adult either. I mean, Chill seems like a pretty cool guy and maybe I am just misinformed, but all the shit BigT gets from people jumping on the bandwagon-o-hate seems really petty and immature from my perspective. edit: anyway, not the point of this thread.
Yeah, I'm not sure what he's referring to either. I've NEVER tried to purposely piss anyone off... And your right, not the point!
On September 24 2010 06:52 TT1 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 24 2010 02:14 RaGe wrote:On September 23 2010 06:40 Xeris wrote:
BigT = SAF.Jesus ? O_O: Yeah. lol i didnt know that hahaha hihi jesus
OH NOW YOUR BEING NICE TO ME!! ^^*
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iNcontroL
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On September 24 2010 02:14 RaGe wrote:Yeah.
Why do I vaguely know that name?
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On September 24 2010 06:59 {88}iNcontroL wrote:Show nested quote +On September 24 2010 02:14 RaGe wrote:On September 23 2010 06:40 Xeris wrote:
BigT = SAF.Jesus ? O_O: Yeah. Why do I vaguely know that name?
I was pretty much friends with everyone on SC1... I knew you geoff
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Netherlands4980 Posts
Ok. I'm going to watch all the games! Maybe I'll start appreciating sc2 a little more by the end of it all.
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On September 23 2010 06:54 fabiano wrote:
BiggerT casting?
If so, Im watching.
lol biggerT is just a jealous noob
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i would be happily suprised if any zerg gets over 1st round go Dimaga/Slush
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haven't really had a chance to hear you cast yet guess i'll find out in this looks like it's gonna be good
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This is going to be quite entertaining. Definitely one of the most recent tournaments I'm going to be interested in.
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BigT + BiggerT duo commentary request.
Tourney looks sick, definatly tuning in.
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Will there be any other casters beside BigT?
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On September 21 2010 22:37 GenoZStriker wrote:
Hey BigT are these matches being cast live? I'm asking because on the NA side it could be a bit of an issue on Saturday, October 16 (Quarterfinals) and Sunday, October 17 (Semifinals) because of MLG DC (October 15-17)
Yeah, I'd like to know that too please. Will the games be played earlier than the scheduled date, or will they all start at 4PM EST? (8 matches is alot to cover it live).
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I wonder if the TeamLiquid players who live with and practice with oGs are gonna dominate. It will be interesting to see!
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On September 24 2010 02:48 urashimakt wrote:Show nested quote +On September 21 2010 22:37 Gnoetall wrote:On September 19 2010 00:04 elite_oracle wrote:
So psyched for this, BigT is probably the most underrated caster on the TL stream lineup. Don't hate, people I think BigT is a great caster. I love watching his streams. The only reasons I can think of that people hate him for are: 1. He's polite.2. He doesn't swear a lot. 3. He isn't drowning out his stream with music as he plays. Hey BigT, the one thing I enjoyed watching you do was an impromptu King of the Hill one Friday night. You just had single eliminations and whoever was the champion when you went to bed was King. I thought that impromptu "tournament" was the best thing I've seen you do. He's definitely pissed off some people he's cast and people watching his casts due to actions that you normally don't expect from a grown adult, so I'm not sure about that first item on your list. However, if he's casting from replays it might be a sign that he really does try to respect his players. Might be a turning point and I'd give him a chance instead of instantly hate-blocking him. Edit: There's a reason the "bandwagon-o-hate" got started. If you don't know what they are, that's fine. This isn't a hate-on-BigT thread so I don't feel it appropriate to list them. Do a search if it's really important for you to know.
Its funny for you to sit here and say what grown man isn't supposed to do, when you are on a forum acting like he has committed a crime. To me that isn't what a grown man would do. Tell me why would you care what BigT does as long as he isn't affecting your way of life? Bandwagon-o-hate? You cannot be serious. That brings back memories to my elementary days. But its okay for you to feel the need to bash someones name because hes a little more famous than you. Its life everyone has a little immaturity inside them.
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MorroW will win easy.... not enough competition....
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Sort of want to tune into BigT all dayyyy
Yeahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!! Lots of good matches
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Looking forward to the tournament.
Even If I voted for TLO, my top 4 players to win the tournament are TLO, Huk, Morrow or Dimaga.
So, regardless of my favorite players I wish everyone gg, gl and most of all hf :D ...
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On September 21 2010 22:37 GenoZStriker wrote:
Hey BigT are these matches being cast live? I'm asking because on the NA side it could be a bit of an issue on Saturday, October 16 (Quarterfinals) and Sunday, October 17 (Semifinals) because of MLG DC (October 15-17)
Yeah, I'd like to know that too please. Will the games be played earlier than the scheduled date, or will they all start at 4PM EST? (8 matches is alot to cover it live).
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On September 26 2010 20:41 cyclone25 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 21 2010 22:37 GenoZStriker wrote:
Hey BigT are these matches being cast live? I'm asking because on the NA side it could be a bit of an issue on Saturday, October 16 (Quarterfinals) and Sunday, October 17 (Semifinals) because of MLG DC (October 15-17)
Yeah, I'd like to know that too please. Will the games be played earlier than the scheduled date, or will they all start at 4PM EST? (8 matches is alot to cover it live).
If I remember rightly from listening to his stream, the casting will be done live from replays.
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On September 26 2010 20:41 cyclone25 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 21 2010 22:37 GenoZStriker wrote:
Hey BigT are these matches being cast live? I'm asking because on the NA side it could be a bit of an issue on Saturday, October 16 (Quarterfinals) and Sunday, October 17 (Semifinals) because of MLG DC (October 15-17)
Yeah, I'd like to know that too please. Will the games be played earlier than the scheduled date, or will they all start at 4PM EST? (8 matches is alot to cover it live).
No need to post your same question twice lol. It will be REPLAY CASTED. For a bunch of reasons.
1. Easier for players due to scheduling conflicts and events.
2. No lag from streamers.
3. No cheating.
4. Easy cast with no waiting between games for players eating, playing in other tournaments, etc.
Big T Brawl starts TODAY @ 4pm EST!! See you all then :D
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On September 26 2010 19:10 Monzterg wrote:
MorroW will win easy.... not enough competition....
His TvP game isnt strong enough to win him this im afraid, but we will see. Would love to see a Zerg finish top3!
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this looks really good, the games are going to be intense.
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On September 26 2010 18:53 Kduncan wrote:Show nested quote +On September 24 2010 02:48 urashimakt wrote:On September 21 2010 22:37 Gnoetall wrote:On September 19 2010 00:04 elite_oracle wrote:
So psyched for this, BigT is probably the most underrated caster on the TL stream lineup. Don't hate, people I think BigT is a great caster. I love watching his streams. The only reasons I can think of that people hate him for are: 1. He's polite.2. He doesn't swear a lot. 3. He isn't drowning out his stream with music as he plays. Hey BigT, the one thing I enjoyed watching you do was an impromptu King of the Hill one Friday night. You just had single eliminations and whoever was the champion when you went to bed was King. I thought that impromptu "tournament" was the best thing I've seen you do. He's definitely pissed off some people he's cast and people watching his casts due to actions that you normally don't expect from a grown adult, so I'm not sure about that first item on your list. However, if he's casting from replays it might be a sign that he really does try to respect his players. Might be a turning point and I'd give him a chance instead of instantly hate-blocking him. Edit: There's a reason the "bandwagon-o-hate" got started. If you don't know what they are, that's fine. This isn't a hate-on-BigT thread so I don't feel it appropriate to list them. Do a search if it's really important for you to know. Its funny for you to sit here and say what grown man isn't supposed to do, when you are on a forum acting like he has committed a crime. To me that isn't what a grown man would do. Tell me why would you care what BigT does as long as he isn't affecting your way of life? Bandwagon-o-hate? You cannot be serious. That brings back memories to my elementary days. But its okay for you to feel the need to bash someones name because hes a little more famous than you. Its life everyone has a little immaturity inside them.
I cringed when I read this, I cringed hard. Your post is a perfect example of a high school student attempting to appear a bit more intelligent than he actually is.
Anyhow, really impressive line-up I'll definitely be tuning in.
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Will ALL games be casted or just a selection?
Really looking forward to these games.
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On September 26 2010 23:00 Graupe wrote:
Will ALL games be casted or just a selection?
Really looking forward to these games.
Every single game will be casted! Dont worry :D
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uggggh so many mirrors in the first rounds
sad face
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oh look another standard cup with the same players as every other cup
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LOL! Replays casts. Rly lame. I won't watch that shit, 2 boring. Hope you guys won't watch either, the community deserves LIVE games and no replays...
User was temp banned for this post.
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On September 27 2010 02:30 IceMan80 wrote:
LOL! Replays casts. Rly lame. I won't watch that shit, 2 boring. Hope you guys won't watch either, the community deserves LIVE games and no replays...
Clearly you dont know ANYTHING at all about professional gaming in general and starcraft II especially...
First of all there is the concern that players could lag if there are observers/casters in the game and Second, if you cast live, have you ever considered the fact that one of the players could be watching on a second monitor or have a friend doing it for them?
Clearly Not. Think at least a small bit before you put up a first post like that. If you are able That is.
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15 mins, i'm pretty pumped to watch the games !
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On September 27 2010 02:45 Xeris wrote:15 mins, i'm pretty pumped to watch the games !
it starts 2 hours and 15 minutes from now, unless TL calendar listed it wrong.
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On September 27 2010 01:47 BigT wrote:Show nested quote +On September 26 2010 23:00 Graupe wrote:
Will ALL games be casted or just a selection?
Really looking forward to these games. Every single game will be casted! Dont worry :D
Wait a minute, will the vods be released after each round or after the whole tournament?
EDIT: DOUBLE POST SORRY.
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On September 27 2010 02:45 Xeris wrote:15 mins, i'm pretty pumped to watch the games !
Hate to be a downer but you have 2 hours and 15 minutes >_<!
I know I can't wait... I keep looking at the clock, "Is it 4 yet?!?!?!?!"
On September 27 2010 02:47 Housemd wrote:Show nested quote +On September 27 2010 01:47 BigT wrote:On September 26 2010 23:00 Graupe wrote:
Will ALL games be casted or just a selection?
Really looking forward to these games. Every single game will be casted! Dont worry :D Wait a minute, will the vods be released after each round or after the whole tournament? EDIT: DOUBLE POST SORRY.
Technology pending, I will *try* to get the VODs up after each round.
With that being said, if anyone wants to volunteer to upload the videos to my youtube after each round that would be great! Everytime I try to, they upload with no sound >_<*
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On September 27 2010 02:48 BigT wrote:Show nested quote +On September 27 2010 02:45 Xeris wrote:15 mins, i'm pretty pumped to watch the games ! Hate to be a downer but you have 2 hours and 15 minutes >_<! I know I can't wait... I keep looking at the clock, "Is it 4 yet?!?!?!?!" Show nested quote +On September 27 2010 02:47 Housemd wrote:On September 27 2010 01:47 BigT wrote:On September 26 2010 23:00 Graupe wrote:
Will ALL games be casted or just a selection?
Really looking forward to these games. Every single game will be casted! Dont worry :D Wait a minute, will the vods be released after each round or after the whole tournament? EDIT: DOUBLE POST SORRY. Technology pending, I will *try* to get the VODs up after each round. With that being said, if anyone wants to volunteer to upload the videos to my youtube after each round that would be great! Everytime I try to, they upload with no sound >_<*
Few Final Questions: can you give us the order in which the games will be casted or is it just going to be random. Also, the prelims are bo1 right???
I'm hyped for this, but i also have to go somewhere...
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On September 27 2010 02:55 Housemd wrote:Show nested quote +On September 27 2010 02:48 BigT wrote:On September 27 2010 02:45 Xeris wrote:15 mins, i'm pretty pumped to watch the games ! Hate to be a downer but you have 2 hours and 15 minutes >_<! I know I can't wait... I keep looking at the clock, "Is it 4 yet?!?!?!?!" On September 27 2010 02:47 Housemd wrote:On September 27 2010 01:47 BigT wrote:On September 26 2010 23:00 Graupe wrote:
Will ALL games be casted or just a selection?
Really looking forward to these games. Every single game will be casted! Dont worry :D Wait a minute, will the vods be released after each round or after the whole tournament? EDIT: DOUBLE POST SORRY. Technology pending, I will *try* to get the VODs up after each round. With that being said, if anyone wants to volunteer to upload the videos to my youtube after each round that would be great! Everytime I try to, they upload with no sound >_<* Few Final Questions: can you give us the order in which the games will be casted or is it just going to be random. Also, the prelims are bo1 right??? I'm hyped for this, but i also have to go somewhere...
I believe you can find the answers to BOTH of those questions in the OP. Look under "when" and "format" ^^*
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On September 27 2010 02:56 BigT wrote:Show nested quote +On September 27 2010 02:55 Housemd wrote:On September 27 2010 02:48 BigT wrote:On September 27 2010 02:45 Xeris wrote:15 mins, i'm pretty pumped to watch the games ! Hate to be a downer but you have 2 hours and 15 minutes >_<! I know I can't wait... I keep looking at the clock, "Is it 4 yet?!?!?!?!" On September 27 2010 02:47 Housemd wrote:On September 27 2010 01:47 BigT wrote:On September 26 2010 23:00 Graupe wrote:
Will ALL games be casted or just a selection?
Really looking forward to these games. Every single game will be casted! Dont worry :D Wait a minute, will the vods be released after each round or after the whole tournament? EDIT: DOUBLE POST SORRY. Technology pending, I will *try* to get the VODs up after each round. With that being said, if anyone wants to volunteer to upload the videos to my youtube after each round that would be great! Everytime I try to, they upload with no sound >_<* Few Final Questions: can you give us the order in which the games will be casted or is it just going to be random. Also, the prelims are bo1 right??? I'm hyped for this, but i also have to go somewhere... I believe you can find the answers to BOTH of those questions in the OP. Look under "when" and "format" ^^*
Yea, i looked under the when and didn't know that the games would be in the order listed so i wanted to make sure. I admit i didn't look under format...^^
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lol wow I'm dumb, i thought 2pm est for some reason :p woopsies ;.
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Dragging the tournament out for a month seems kinda meh, but still looking forward to the matches.
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Germany2762 Posts
oh noes TLO :/
i looked forward to see him play ;/
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On September 27 2010 02:44 CuttyFlam wrote:Show nested quote +On September 27 2010 02:30 IceMan80 wrote:
LOL! Replays casts. Rly lame. I won't watch that shit, 2 boring. Hope you guys won't watch either, the community deserves LIVE games and no replays... Clearly you dont know ANYTHING at all about professional gaming in general and starcraft II especially... First of all there is the concern that players could lag if there are observers/casters in the game and Second, if you cast live, have you ever considered the fact that one of the players could be watching on a second monitor or have a friend doing it for them? Clearly Not. Think at least a small bit before you put up a first post like that. If you are able That is.
Clearly you don't know anything about professional sport (includes e-sport i guess?).
There can be pros because of the sponsors who r willing to pay the teams because they want there names/products 2 be seen... by the fans.
But fans won't watch an unattractive recorded game (sure, some would even watch the CL final as a "replay"...). Supporting a team or a player makes not that much sense, if he has already lost or won. It's not exciting.
So there will ne less fans, less sponsors, lower games. Guess we all don't want that.
The problems you named r real ones. And there has to be a solution for sure. But it's not that one.
BOYCOT THESE REPLAY CASTS AND WE WILL GET LIVE GAMES!!!
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will replays be released?
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On September 27 2010 04:19 Fianchetto wrote:
will replays be released?
Yes i will be officialy releasing every replay at the conclusion of the tournament!
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Got no work tomorrow so definitely watching this
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Hehehe TLO gone = HuK's gonna win the tournament.
So have all the games been played, or only the prelims?
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Looking good for Huk, he will win. MorroW 2nd and Dimaga 3rd. Those are my predictions!
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On September 27 2010 04:15 IceMan80 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 27 2010 02:44 CuttyFlam wrote:On September 27 2010 02:30 IceMan80 wrote:
LOL! Replays casts. Rly lame. I won't watch that shit, 2 boring. Hope you guys won't watch either, the community deserves LIVE games and no replays... Clearly you dont know ANYTHING at all about professional gaming in general and starcraft II especially... First of all there is the concern that players could lag if there are observers/casters in the game and Second, if you cast live, have you ever considered the fact that one of the players could be watching on a second monitor or have a friend doing it for them? Clearly Not. Think at least a small bit before you put up a first post like that. If you are able That is. Clearly you don't know anything about professional sport (includes e-sport i guess?). There can be pros because of the sponsors who r willing to pay the teams because they want there names/products 2 be seen... by the fans. But fans won't watch an unattractive recorded game (sure, some would even watch the CL final as a "replay"...). Supporting a team or a player makes not that much sense, if he has already lost or won. It's not exciting. So there will ne less fans, less sponsors, lower games. Guess we all don't want that. The problems you named r real ones. And there has to be a solution for sure. But it's not that one. BOYCOT THESE REPLAY CASTS AND WE WILL GET LIVE GAMES!!!
eventhough his first post was childish i couldnt agree more with his second post. casting off replays is not the solution to the problem. It just really kills the atmosphere!
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For some reason I'm not getting audio on livestream. Anyone with the same problem who has figured it out? It's really a shame.
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its also pretty laggy, the stream that is! Only me? or anyone else having the same?
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he should switch to Ustream, so much better than live stream
TT1 Phoenix play against seige tanks is so sexy
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yep laggy laggy laggy
we need...... BIGGER T !
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On September 27 2010 05:18 mengsk83 wrote:
its also pretty laggy, the stream that is! Only me? or anyone else having the same?
there are hiccups now and then
have seen worse...
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Pretty unwatchable for me, a shame. I was looking for some great games
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without TLO its only half exciting
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*Sends up the BiggerT signal*
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Pretty weak games so far :/
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Could someone be a hero and restream BigT's stream? Its so laggy
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Ah well, BigT Isnt doing half as bad as usual, im willing to give him half a chance here...
But the quality does suck.
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On September 27 2010 05:32 Plutonium wrote:
*Sends up the BiggerT signal*
there should be something like the bat-signal for bigger t
...like a really big "T" :D
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I really love it, when such tournaments are organised, but hell, the stream is SOOOO LAGGY
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I don´t know why, but his stream is really not watchable for me. It´s so laggy :/
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On September 27 2010 05:45 Killver wrote:
I really love it, when such tournaments are organised, but hell, the stream is SOOOO LAGGY
Yea I wrote a PM to bigt about not using livestream, don't know if he read it though, didn't get an answere.
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Appreciate your work but please... read this.
http://www.aresearchguide.com/3tips.html
Specially this part
Pause. Allow yourself and your audience a little time to reflect and think. Don't race through your presentation and leave your audience, as well as yourself, feeling out of breath.
Even though you appear to have an endless supply of air.
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Pretty laggy, but watchable for me. Usually livestream is just endless lagfest.
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just refresh the stream till the lag is gone.. thats always the same with livestream.. either you hit a good server and everything runs smooth or you hit a shit server and it lags like hell.. just keep refreshing till its good. it works!
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On September 27 2010 05:50 Doko wrote:Appreciate your work but please... read this. http://www.aresearchguide.com/3tips.htmlSpecially this part Show nested quote +Pause. Allow yourself and your audience a little time to reflect and think. Don't race through your presentation and leave your audience, as well as yourself, feeling out of breath. Even though you appear to have an endless supply of air.
Im missing a co-caster like an analytic commentator or something that can comment on what happens, it's kinda overpowering to have bigT talking nonstop 59 seconds of the minute
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QXC's marauders deserved to kill that collossus...that was amazing micro to split the marauders causing only one to take damage from it.
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Is he gonna cast the whole tourny today?
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Yeah its all good now, pretty exciting games between qxc and KK
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On September 27 2010 06:04 meeple wrote:
Is he gonna cast the whole tourny today?
From the OP:
+ Show Spoiler +Casts will be live every Saturday and Sunday @ 4PM EST starting Sunday September 26th!
Prelims
-Sunday September 26th: TT1 vs Murder, Kiwikaki vs QXC, Slush vs Kawaiirice, Fenix vs Nony, Haypro vs Sjow, Satiini vs Darkforce, Lucifron vs White-Ra, Strelok vs Tarson
-Saturday October 9th: Drewbie vs Select, Gretorp vs Ajtls, Iefnaij vs Machine, Incontrol vs Huk, Mana vs Jinro, Morrow vs Dimaga, Bratok vs Naniwa, Socke vs Nightend
-Sunday October 10th: NA Prelim 1 Semi-Finals and EU Prelim 1 Semi-Finals
-Saturday October 16th: NA Prelim 2 Semi-Finals and EU Prelim 2 Semi-Finals
-Sunday October 17th: All Prelim Finals
Finals
-Saturday October 23rd: Quarterfinals
-Sunday October 24th: Semifinals
-Saturday October 30th: 3rd Place Match and Grand Finals
So no
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don't worry Slush, you GOT this!
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i hope winner of the game submits replay rather than winner of the series..i feel like i can tell who's going to win the series just from the end of the replay.
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On September 27 2010 06:32 Dr.Dragoon wrote:
i hope winner of the game submits replay rather than winner of the series..i feel like i can tell who's going to win the series just from the end of the replay.
I was thinking that so i look away during replay picking, also incase he might press on the wrong (spoilering) replay ^^
Go zerg fighting u can do it!
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Awts he forgot the overlay for the replay timer, yay spoilers just like the replay picking in combination with dates.
Maybe for the next casting for this tournament you could have a huge overlay when picking the replays and then switch back to SC2 when the match starts, just like day9 did with KOTB.
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Why does he get so many viewers, he's so bad
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He's BigT . He's the Best.
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On September 27 2010 06:32 Dr.Dragoon wrote:
i hope winner of the game submits replay rather than winner of the series..i feel like i can tell who's going to win the series just from the end of the replay.
Also the caster should not know the results beforehand, he gives little hints of who's gonna win.
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GO SLUSH, sweet game, gotta love Woot Lords <3
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Slush is really good damn
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On September 27 2010 06:44 DGMavn wrote:
Why does he get so many viewers, he's so bad
Man, players in the tournament are the top notch.
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On September 27 2010 06:53 alkampfer wrote:
Slush is really good damn
SLush is perfect.
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Yeah BigT horizontal and diagonal are the same thing bro definitely >.> <.<.
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I dont care much about the caster, I watch streams based on stream quality (video and players) and lagfree. I just watch muted, cus he never stop talking and its rather annoying (he gives little to no information, and he has absolutly no game knowledge past bronze league).
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Zerg 1 base allins are so flimsy, it's hard to watch when you're cheering for the zerg :'[.
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Slush tries to fake FE and does Baneling bust, which fails because his opponet is going reactor helion and fast banshee. -.-
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Great game two. Sadly it was more a loss from Kwaiirice, then it was win for slush. However slush played incredible good that game.
Theres not gonna be any zergs left in the tourny for next round , lol
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I know lost temple is BS but baneling bust so risky ><.
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3000+ viewers on livestream = nearly unwatchable..
Really wanted to see Nony, its kind of hard with this screen freeze though :/
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To bad for Slush, really felt that he was deserving to win based on the series.
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On September 27 2010 06:55 AeroGear wrote:
I dont care much about the caster, I watch streams based on stream quality (video and players) and lagfree. I just watch muted, cus he never stop talking and its rather annoying (he gives little to no information, and he has absolutly no game knowledge past bronze league).
You do realize he is a 1400 Diamond Protoss player right...?
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On September 27 2010 07:05 Senx wrote:
3000+ viewers on livestream = nearly unwatchable..
Really wanted to see Nony, its kind of hard with this screen freeze though :/
Hmm that's weird, I haven't had once ounce of lag at all and I've been watching since it started...
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I always get depressed when i see the protoss ball move out and terran just loads up 2 dropships and kills the main nexus + robo bay.
Sigh
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great tourney so far, thanks for putting it together.
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nony missed the dropship by like a meter...
that sucks so bad
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Nony ragequits after losing to a totally devastating rediculous blueflame drop. To bad...
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And here I am thinking PvT was somewhat balanced, nony making it look impossible for P
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I don't understand why more Terran don't do blue flame drops. That shit owns me every time
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he should hide the "Duration" when he tries to open replays (you can see it when you click on the replay)... everything else is awesome (stream sometimes lags but thats okay for me)
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2 helions should never determine a game within 5 seconds. Two units should never either. That's like banelings having ranged attack without dying.
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On September 27 2010 07:26 Pandain wrote:
2 helions should never determine a game within 5 seconds. Two units should never either. That's like banelings having ranged attack without dying.
Voidrays
nony also stacked the probes right in front of the hellions when he coulda split them up
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*sigh* I'm kinda sad to see Nony get eliminated so quickly >.<
I'm gonna root for TTOne now! go TTOne!
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On September 27 2010 07:27 EleanorRIgby wrote:Show nested quote +On September 27 2010 07:26 Pandain wrote:
2 helions should never determine a game within 5 seconds. Two units should never either. That's like banelings having ranged attack without dying.
Voidrays
Even void rays aren't that good. Once they get charged, and terran/zerg doesn't have enough they win, but they have to charge up, and if scouted the opponet can know they're going voidrays (or rarely, phoenixes), and prepare accordingly. Helion drops can happen anytime, and if you see a factory with a tech lab you can't even tell if he's neccesarily going helion.
On September 27 2010 07:27 EleanorRIgby wrote:Show nested quote +On September 27 2010 07:26 Pandain wrote:
2 helions should never determine a game within 5 seconds. Two units should never either. That's like banelings having ranged attack without dying.
nony also stacked the probes right in front of the hellions when he coulda split them up
Not gonna lie, that was a mistake. But the point remains valid. It's like how Nony, after some beautiful force fields in game 1 loses because 4 marduerers come in and take out his robo bay.
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On September 27 2010 07:29 Pandain wrote:Show nested quote +On September 27 2010 07:27 EleanorRIgby wrote:On September 27 2010 07:26 Pandain wrote:
2 helions should never determine a game within 5 seconds. Two units should never either. That's like banelings having ranged attack without dying.
Voidrays Even void rays aren't that good. Once they get charged, and terran/zerg doesn't have enough they win, but they have to charge up, and if scouted the opponet can know they're going voidrays (or rarely, phoenixes), and prepare accordingly. Helion drops can happen anytime, and if you see a factory with a tech lab you can't even tell if he's neccesarily going helion.
you can hide voidrays anywhere on the map, terran cant scout the whole map
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Well Fenix had luck in that the drop was not scouted by the phoenix and if you keep 2 stalkers in your base in order to be safer against drops he would he defended the hellions.
Second ragequit from Tyler during one week in tourneys^^
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On September 27 2010 07:30 EleanorRIgby wrote:Show nested quote +On September 27 2010 07:29 Pandain wrote:On September 27 2010 07:27 EleanorRIgby wrote:On September 27 2010 07:26 Pandain wrote:
2 helions should never determine a game within 5 seconds. Two units should never either. That's like banelings having ranged attack without dying.
Voidrays Even void rays aren't that good. Once they get charged, and terran/zerg doesn't have enough they win, but they have to charge up, and if scouted the opponet can know they're going voidrays (or rarely, phoenixes), and prepare accordingly. Helion drops can happen anytime, and if you see a factory with a tech lab you can't even tell if he's neccesarily going helion. you can hide voidrays anywhere on the map, terran cant scout the whole map
Alright, they can put their stargate in a vulnerable place on the map, and if the void ray attempt fails terran can easily take out the stargate after he searches the map. And keep in mind, proxying a stargate and getting void rays is a much more risky move than just dropping some helions.
Regardless, Liquid Hwaiting! Go HayPro!
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On September 27 2010 07:25 wuddersup wrote:
I don't understand why more Terran don't do blue flame drops. That shit owns me every time
yeh i dont really get it either, it would even be insane mid-late game. something like 10 supply of units - 4 hellion, 1 medivac can easily majorly cripple toss economy. 2 hellion in the nat, 2 in the main and even if u lose it its not an enormous deal.
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Find new chat mods and I'll watch your stream. Can't even ask a question because chat is frozen the whole time while they cry about trolls.
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if the ultra cavern was at his main he would of won that....
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Haypro sitting at 2k / 2k with 2-3 bases a majority of that game.....I dunno he seemed to be choking hardcore and just lacking macro and game sense
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I like the cute roach drop in the base, did haypro forget hes a zerg for a second? lost like 10 roaches ^^
Not really like terran that can just escape
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Well Marauders are not too bad at building harrassing either and having more of them is crucial for the bigger battles I guess.
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God, his voice volume is so loud its making my ears hurt. Someone needs to tell him to turn down his voice and turn up game sound.
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On September 27 2010 07:48 ShadowReaver wrote:
God, his voice volume is so loud its making my ears hurt. Someone needs to tell him to turn down his voice and turn up game sound.
I'd rather have the volume too high than too low.
This gives me the option of lowering the volume using the volume control.
When the volume is too low even held at maximum level then it stops me from fully enjoying the entire presentation.
So I'm glad its a bit too loud. I just lowered the volume slider bar down a bit.
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On September 27 2010 07:29 blahman3344 wrote:
*sigh* I'm kinda sad to see Nony get eliminated so quickly >.<
I'm gonna root for TTOne now! go TTOne!
123 HWAITING~
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NU! Not Haypro >.<
well, at least he put up a decent fight =\
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Man haypro is out already.
The hope of zerg rests in the hands of Darkforce!
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Anyone have the results so far? Sorry if BigT has said them, I have him muted.
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On September 27 2010 07:52 JimmyJRaynor wrote:Show nested quote +On September 27 2010 07:48 ShadowReaver wrote:
God, his voice volume is so loud its making my ears hurt. Someone needs to tell him to turn down his voice and turn up game sound. I'd rather have the volume too high than too low. This gives me the option of lowering the volume using the volume control. When the volume is too low even held at maximum level then it stops me from fully enjoying the entire presentation. So I'm glad its a bit too loud. I just lowered the volume slider bar down a bit.
Lowering the livestream volumn makes the in game sound basically inaudiable.
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On September 27 2010 07:44 Senx wrote:
Haypro sitting at 2k / 2k with 2-3 bases a majority of that game.....I dunno he seemed to be choking hardcore and just lacking macro and game sense
i think he was trying to get a shitload of ultras out+ Show Spoiler +
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minor gripe: you can tell how many games are going to played in a series by looking at the date and time of each replay.
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well there goes all the liquid player, lol
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Ehh Team Liquid aside from TLO has been looking pretty weak in SC2
Nony,Ret, Haypro
While all doing well in sc1 have not looked very impressive at all lately in sc2.
I Really Hope these guys can shape up esp since Liquid is the only "western" Team in Korea right now.
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Good tourny so far.
The only complaint I have is BigT's mic is really, really bad. A better mic would do wonders for the stream.
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They still havn't made his stream featured yet!!!
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Wow 14 mutas can't kill a turret repaired by mass scvs.. This is ridiculous.
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On September 27 2010 08:00 scottyyy wrote:
Anyone have the results so far? Sorry if BigT has said them, I have him muted.
Anyone? Sucks having a live report thread with no results.
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Does anyone have a compilation of results? Hard to follow.
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Lowering the livestream volumn makes the in game sound basically inaudiable.
I have it on half volume and the game sound is fine.. and commentary voice is fine as well.
seems to be fine for me.
maybe you have a problem with your hardware or something
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Sry 4 double post
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Jinro didn't get replaced but TLO?
On September 27 2010 07:15 Senx wrote:
I always get depressed when i see the protoss ball move out and terran just loads up 2 dropships and kills the main nexus + robo bay.
Sigh
The biggest pain in the ass with this is imo that Marauders do so damm well in little groups against other little groups (and buildings of course). Even if you got Templar they still can do a ton of damage.
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On September 27 2010 08:16 AssuredVacancy wrote:
Wow 14 mutas can't kill a turret repaired by mass scvs.. This is ridiculous.
Aye, that looked fucking retarded. Bit like the reaper hatch snipe, but if there's anyone who I think can recover it's Darkforce.
Edit: But that ain't happening.
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Best zerg in Europe? That would go to DIMAGA
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come on dark force! you can do it!!!!! Fighting!!
yes! Darkforce FTW! epic 3rd game =P
I love how Satini rage quit =P
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whoops i meant to edit....=_=
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Amazing games from darkforce
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having a wife, not a useful skill toi have
Wonder if the old WhiteRa will return :/
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Didn't White-Ra say "go lt" and now they are playing on blistering sands? replay order messed up? Or did I see that wrong?
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On September 27 2010 09:02 Leviance wrote:
Didn't White-Ra say "go lt" and now they are playing on blistering sands? replay order messed up? Or did I see that wrong?
I think this might be g3. He did say "go lt".
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Looks like whitera lost his edge:o used to be top player outside korea and now he plays really sloppy.
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Socke should have played for White-Ra :p
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Great Lineup! Didnt WhiteRa say at the end of the match "Go LT"? Did BigT miss map2??
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lol @ BigT spoiling: "For all those that just tuned in: you will watch the last game for tonight"
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On September 27 2010 09:35 Leviance wrote:
lol @ BigT spoiling: "For all those that just tuned in: you will watch the last game for tonight"
it was already 1-1 wasnt it?
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On September 27 2010 09:35 Leviance wrote:
lol @ BigT spoiling: "For all those that just tuned in: you will watch the last game for tonight"
im not a huge BigT fan but, I enjoyed it. He fucked up right then oh well. Its his first tournament and I like it. Games came fast due to replays. If your watching to enjoy the games ( don't be stupid and participate in chat and then complain about spoilers) and don't try to spoil them for yourself by trying to see how long its going to last when he loads the replay there is no issue.
I think this type of tournament should become the norm for non lan of course.
my 2cents
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Are we going to get a replay pack as well as VODs?
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On September 27 2010 09:49 Beren wrote:Show nested quote +On September 27 2010 09:35 Leviance wrote:
lol @ BigT spoiling: "For all those that just tuned in: you will watch the last game for tonight" im not a huge BigT fan but, I enjoyed it. He fucked up right then oh well. Its his first tournament and I like it. [...]
I didn't intend to hate, I just found it funny
This Tournament has been awesome so far.
On September 27 2010 09:42 Glasse wrote:
it was already 1-1 wasnt it?
No it was 1-0 Strelok
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Hey guys just want to address a couple of things!
1. I apologize for the lag but it is out of control. For those of you just tuning in for the first time, there's no need to tell me to "switch to ustream" because I already know this lol. I have actually been working on switching to own3d.tv for quite sometime and should be ready soon.
2. Sorry about the spoilers, I wasn't aware that you could tell who won by who left the game first in the first game, I will try to make them spoiler free for round 2.
3. I'm sorry I can't update the thread with results and cast at the same time. I did however update the results the second I got done streaming, thats the best i can do
4. Big thanks to everyone watching and supporting me again, I love you guys :D
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Good Job BigT.
Not many people could do so well their first touny. You have managed to remove all the down time common with the live tournaments. I loved the match-ups.
Look forward to the 9th and 10th of October.
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On September 27 2010 10:26 Roezz wrote:
Not many people could do so well their first touny. You have managed to remove all the down time common with the live tournaments. I loved the match-ups.
One huge advantage with casting from replays that people seem to be missing. Every live tournament, ever, has lots of downtime due to various reasons. It's rare to just watch all the games without interruption, so props for that.
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In the future it would be cool if you could split up the vods for the different Matches. For example I was able to catch a lot of the games, but now I have to root around the 5 hour cast for the 1 match I still want to see. Anyways, other then that great job bigT
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On September 27 2010 11:14 Fianchetto wrote:
In the future it would be cool if you could split up the vods for the different Matches. For example I was able to catch a lot of the games, but now I have to root around the 5 hour cast for the 1 match I still want to see. Anyways, other then that great job bigT
I can only do so much at once. I'll do this tomorrow hopefully :D
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Nice job! Enjoyed every minute of it. Looking forward to round 2.
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On September 27 2010 10:00 Leviance wrote:Show nested quote +On September 27 2010 09:49 Beren wrote:On September 27 2010 09:35 Leviance wrote:
lol @ BigT spoiling: "For all those that just tuned in: you will watch the last game for tonight" im not a huge BigT fan but, I enjoyed it. He fucked up right then oh well. Its his first tournament and I like it. [...] I didn't intend to hate, I just found it funny This Tournament has been awesome so far.
I just wanted to be clear that I wasn't some fan boi before excusing a rather large mistake.
You know how some casters have some faithful followings that will praise anything their favorite caster does.
well w/e the case it has been a very enjoyable tournaments so far and I think its going to have alot of success. I'm not sure if the sponsor is just a random E-sports fan or a company, wasnt very clear on that, but THANKS!
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Great Job On tourney BigT!!!! Maps... well not that great
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On September 27 2010 08:04 metaldragon wrote:
Ehh Team Liquid aside from TLO has been looking pretty weak in SC2
Nony,Ret, Haypro
While all doing well in sc1 have not looked very impressive at all lately in sc2.
I Really Hope these guys can shape up esp since Liquid is the only "western" Team in Korea right now.
While this is true... you should have some faith. Fenix was REALLY bad at SC2 for 4 months of the beta, then he got really good... so give Nony, Ret, and Haypro 1-2 months I'm sure they'll come to form.
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On September 27 2010 11:19 BigT wrote:Show nested quote +On September 27 2010 11:14 Fianchetto wrote:
In the future it would be cool if you could split up the vods for the different Matches. For example I was able to catch a lot of the games, but now I have to root around the 5 hour cast for the 1 match I still want to see. Anyways, other then that great job bigT I can only do so much at once. I'll do this tomorrow hopefully :D
Good stuff man. People are bitching about casting, lag, etc... need to just go away. Shame so many trolls ruined the livestream with their whining (wtb TLO though, damn lag)
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Nice work done (the few flaws were adressed already). But could you start to cast the Euros first next time as I had to stay up till 2 AM just to see Darkforce playing and while I am a student many puplis or people that have to go to work don`t have the luxury of staying up for too long.
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Great job. Completely lag free for me and fantastic games. Looking forward to future coverage.
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O_O didn't know murder replaced someone in this tourney .
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On September 27 2010 13:31 Xeris wrote:
While this is true... you should have some faith. Fenix was REALLY bad at SC2 for 4 months of the beta, then he got really good... so give Nony, Ret, and Haypro 1-2 months I'm sure they'll come to form.
+ Show Spoiler +only watches Nony yesterday and he definitely wasn't on top of his game - poor chrono-boost-usage, playing way too reluctantly of one base (2 observers first out of robo etc.); he even tried to take down blue-flame-hellions with probes in game 2 instead of splitting them up all over his base to avoid massive losses; he is way better than this, shit like that can happen once in a while
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On September 26 2010 20:51 BigT wrote:Show nested quote +On September 26 2010 20:41 cyclone25 wrote:On September 21 2010 22:37 GenoZStriker wrote:
Hey BigT are these matches being cast live? I'm asking because on the NA side it could be a bit of an issue on Saturday, October 16 (Quarterfinals) and Sunday, October 17 (Semifinals) because of MLG DC (October 15-17)
Yeah, I'd like to know that too please. Will the games be played earlier than the scheduled date, or will they all start at 4PM EST? (8 matches is alot to cover it live). No need to post your same question twice lol. It will be REPLAY CASTED. For a bunch of reasons. 1. Easier for players due to scheduling conflicts and events. 2. No lag from streamers. 3. No cheating. 4. Easy cast with no waiting between games for players eating, playing in other tournaments, etc. Big T Brawl starts TODAY @ 4pm EST!! See you all then :D
I thought this was pretty much genius.
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On September 27 2010 19:35 Trump wrote:Show nested quote +On September 26 2010 20:51 BigT wrote:On September 26 2010 20:41 cyclone25 wrote:On September 21 2010 22:37 GenoZStriker wrote:
Hey BigT are these matches being cast live? I'm asking because on the NA side it could be a bit of an issue on Saturday, October 16 (Quarterfinals) and Sunday, October 17 (Semifinals) because of MLG DC (October 15-17)
Yeah, I'd like to know that too please. Will the games be played earlier than the scheduled date, or will they all start at 4PM EST? (8 matches is alot to cover it live). No need to post your same question twice lol. It will be REPLAY CASTED. For a bunch of reasons. 1. Easier for players due to scheduling conflicts and events. 2. No lag from streamers. 3. No cheating. 4. Easy cast with no waiting between games for players eating, playing in other tournaments, etc. Big T Brawl starts TODAY @ 4pm EST!! See you all then :D I thought this was pretty much genius.
What do you mean ? The Replay casting thing ?
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Hey BigT!
Stayed up late to see the EU games and overslept for work today. If there is any chance to stream the EU games any earlier that would be awesome. Lots of great games and casting. Thumbs up!
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On September 27 2010 19:56 yejin wrote:
What do you mean ? The Replay casting thing ?
One of the most common complaints/speculations during live casts is whether there is cheating. Too many people are convinced it happens. The second one player gets lucky in their positioning against their opponent or whatever, someone in chat, or even the caster, almost always speculates the player cheated. It happened on Saturday in a match between Select and Morrow. It's distracting, unfair to both players, and taints the match for everyone watching.
The best way to remove the issue, and doubt, is to remove the chance it can happen. BigT's onto something good here. His setup is about the only reasonable way to eliminate the possibility of cheating for these type of tournaments, outside of a Lan (not possible for these type of tournaments) or delayed stream (which I am told is too expensive also).
edit: this is a random thought yejin, just adding it to the conversation.
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Will there be replays released?
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without tlo the whole turnament looses thrill, i'm only looking foreward to see BratOK now
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Someone please teach qxc how to 1-1-1. Kiwikaki 1 gate robo'd in his face every game and even blindly spammed Immortals a couple times before observer. Even the game he scouted 1-1-1 he continued with his awful build ignoring chargelots or templar.
ATTN qxc: You're doin it rong.
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On September 27 2010 15:23 Irrational_Animal wrote:
Nice work done (the few flaws were adressed already). But could you start to cast the Euros first next time as I had to stay up till 2 AM just to see Darkforce playing and while I am a student many puplis or people that have to go to work don`t have the luxury of staying up for too long.
#2
I was also going to ask for the Europe games at least be cast before the US ones, because for Europeans that have to work/go to school the day after it gets really late while the Americans watching wouldn't care (I guess) for it is quite an acceptable time, maybe some even still work when the cast starts so it would also be better for them if the NA games are cast after the EU ones.
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On September 27 2010 22:03 comis wrote:
Someone please teach qxc how to 1-1-1. Kiwikaki 1 gate robo'd in his face every game and even blindly spammed Immortals a couple times before observer. Even the game he scouted 1-1-1 he continued with his awful build ignoring chargelots or templar.
ATTN qxc: You're doin it rong.
Says the 800 diamond, lol =p
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VOD is so frustrating to watch. Is there any chance you can do VODs by matchup?
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I finally had to turn off the stream because listening to BigT spoil every single move/engagement/match is just lame Not a fan of replay casting
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Loved the replay-casting. Didn't get spoiled at all as I'm not stupid enough to try and figure it out by looking at the time/dates on replay files, nor who was playing in them. I find it a bit shocking people do this on purpose and then cry over it in this thread. Have some self control people.
Enjoyed the casting as well, especially for a first tournament.
Thanks for your efforts BigT and looking forward to the next one.
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Big T ALWAYS lags for me. Ive tried to refresh a ton of times but still getting lag, usually its only the video that lags not sound. Even his VOD lags for me.
(100/10 mbit)
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On September 28 2010 04:08 Forak wrote:
Loved the replay-casting. Didn't get spoiled at all as I'm not stupid enough to try and figure it out by looking at the time/dates on replay files, nor who was playing in them. I find it a bit shocking people do this on purpose and then cry over it in this thread. Have some self control people.
Enjoyed the casting as well, especially for a first tournament.
Thanks for your efforts BigT and looking forward to the next one.
You must have had the stream muted.. BigT was magically predicting every step of every game, and not in a neutral acting like I don't know what's going to happen kind of way...
In the first few seconds he feels like he notices some key mistake someone made "that might cost him the game" oh I wonder who'll lose?
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On September 28 2010 04:47 BladeRunner wrote:Show nested quote +On September 28 2010 04:08 Forak wrote:
Loved the replay-casting. Didn't get spoiled at all as I'm not stupid enough to try and figure it out by looking at the time/dates on replay files, nor who was playing in them. I find it a bit shocking people do this on purpose and then cry over it in this thread. Have some self control people.
Enjoyed the casting as well, especially for a first tournament.
Thanks for your efforts BigT and looking forward to the next one. You must have had the stream muted.. BigT was magically predicting every step of every game, and not in a neutral acting like I don't know what's going to happen kind of way... In the first few seconds he feels like he notices some key mistake someone made "that might cost him the game" oh I wonder who'll lose?
Maybe he just pays attention and knows what he is talking about?
He stated many times that he had not watched the replays in advance.
What would be the point of lying about that?
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I just want to see the darkforce matches, are the matches uploaded seperately somewhere?
(can always fastforward in the VOD to 03:02:00 to watch them but it's quite a hassle to look for the exact games you want to watch)
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1. The replays WILL be released after the conclusion of the entire tournament!
2. I have no idea how my commentary spoiled the games... that was the first time I have watched the replays.
3. I am trying to find someone to upload the VODS (separated by match) onto youtube. Please be patient ^^*
4. I AM OFFICIALLY ON OWN3D.TV NOW!!
Thanks again for watching everyone
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Massive spoiler in OP just really made me not care about this anymore, since I can't enjoy the games. :/
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On September 28 2010 06:45 vx70GTOJudgexv wrote:
Massive spoiler in OP just really made me not care about this anymore, since I can't enjoy the games. :/
Oh shoot, didnt think about that. Good call ^^*
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maybe i was just watching at the wrong time, but i think you need to promote the sponsors more. good games also.
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FatkiddsLag, thanks for looking out for me, but I really didn't have a "business" to promote. I'm more of just a SC2 fan and wanted to do something cool for the community. I had BigT mention ForceSC2Strategy's Youtube channel as Force has helped my game out a lot, and I though I'd do something nice for him. Glad you enjoyed the games!
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I'm glad the replays are going to be put out because some of the things that come out of you'r mouth are just retarded. For example omg he's yellow so he definitely has the advantage, and other dumb little comments like that.
Other than that good tourney I can't wait for the replays because i couldn't handle watching more than 3 games....
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On September 28 2010 10:27 jonnyboixx wrote:
I'm glad the replays are going to be put out because some of the things that come out of you'r mouth are just retarded. For example omg he's yellow so he definitely has the advantage, and other dumb little comments like that.
Other than that good tourney I can't wait for the replays because i couldn't handle watching more than 3 games....
This guy may have just ruined it for everyone.
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On September 28 2010 10:58 BigT wrote:Show nested quote +On September 28 2010 10:27 jonnyboixx wrote:
I'm glad the replays are going to be put out because some of the things that come out of you'r mouth are just retarded. For example omg he's yellow so he definitely has the advantage, and other dumb little comments like that.
Other than that good tourney I can't wait for the replays because i couldn't handle watching more than 3 games....
This guy may have just ruined it for everyone.
dont understand
he vocally states that he dislikes your casting so therefore people wont enjoy the tournament?
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Pointing out who is yellow, and thus clearly op, obviously spoiled the results of the game.
Or as heard by Ryan, whoosh ?
=)
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On September 28 2010 11:33 RyanRushia wrote:Show nested quote +On September 28 2010 10:58 BigT wrote:On September 28 2010 10:27 jonnyboixx wrote:
I'm glad the replays are going to be put out because some of the things that come out of you'r mouth are just retarded. For example omg he's yellow so he definitely has the advantage, and other dumb little comments like that.
Other than that good tourney I can't wait for the replays because i couldn't handle watching more than 3 games....
This guy may have just ruined it for everyone. dont understand he vocally states that he dislikes your casting so therefore people wont enjoy the tournament?
pretty sure he was just making a joke o-o
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On September 28 2010 10:27 jonnyboixx wrote:
I'm glad the replays are going to be put out because some of the things that come out of you'r mouth are just retarded. For example omg he's yellow so he definitely has the advantage, and other dumb little comments like that.
Other than that good tourney I can't wait for the replays because i couldn't handle watching more than 3 games....
Make sure to stay away from Raelcun, who gives the advantage to pink players. I think even Day9 might have given an advantage towards green?
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TRUE. I should stop pointing out whose yellow because it does spoil the games because everyone knows that yellow gives a 20% armor and damage increase to all units so that player is more likely to win... But most people (unless your color blind) would be able to see this without me pointing it out >_<*
SO SORRY FOR SPOILING THE RESULTS FOR ALL THE COLOR BLIND VIEWERS :D
+ Show Spoiler +
And releasing the replays is a privelage that I thought wouldn't need to be revoked. There's absolutely no reason to do so, I was just trying to be nice (as usual).
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On September 28 2010 10:27 jonnyboixx wrote:
I'm glad the replays are going to be put out because some of the things that come out of you'r mouth are just retarded. For example omg he's yellow so he definitely has the advantage, and other dumb little comments like that.
Other than that good tourney I can't wait for the replays because i couldn't handle watching more than 3 games....
Wow...you guys take yourselves far too seriously. This is his tourney, if he wants to joke around, he should. Personally, I much prefer BigT's casting style to 99% of the rest of the guys trying to pull it off. Try relaxing a little bit.
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enjoying the casting and the games tbh. good job Big T
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What would a day be like on the Teamliquid forums without BigT doing something nice and getting stoned for it?
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On September 29 2010 02:43 Gnoetall wrote:
What would a day be like on the Teamliquid forums without BigT doing something nice and getting stoned for it?
Yeah I don't get it either.
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Thanks guys, sorry for the lack of updates, but I am extremely busy (and exhausted) at WCG! When I get home, I will definitely work on getting the VODS up as well as updating the brackets!
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watching a caster casting replays is boring, rather watch the replays myself... where are the replays ?
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Hey BigT. I know you are planning on getting the VODS up. But I don't mind watching the commentary. 4 Hours is a little long to sit through. For the future, can you add notes about when each match starts. I'm a Protoss player and I generally only want to watch the Protoss players to improve my game.
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Sorry about what I said earlier what i mean to say was that your a bad caster, I'm not saying I'm better because obviously I don't cast anygames. I think if you just show more battles when casting instead of looking at buildings, more people will watch/like your castings, instead of missing the big battle and only seeing the end.
Anyways whether you post the replays or not idc i mean it is your tourney you decide what to do with it. I just think it's stupid to to watch a caster casting replays when i can watch the replays myself, and don't have to miss a beat.
Why didn't you just cast the games live? Instead of replays I know it's alot of games but people would rather watch live games than casted replays, because we all think the same thing.(why can't we just watch the reps ourselves).
But I do have to congratulate you in hosting a tourney with such good players. ~Joseph~
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Actually after watching many live tournaments and this being my first replay casted tournaments, I really slightly prefer the replay casted tournament better. There is no needlessly waiting around, no lag from commentators/spectators, no chance of cheating by one of the players watching the stream, etc. There are more reason listed in this thread, that's just what came to mind. I think BigT is a great caster, very knowledgeable as high level diamond protoss and as an ex brood war player and he does a good job.
I don't understand the hate. It's like me hating a movie but watching it anyway so I can complain about it later...No one is making you watch so feel free not to if you don't enjoy it. Wait for the replays sometime after the tournament and watch the games that way if you want. I don't get why anyone would voluntarily do something they don't enjoy, it makes no sense at all.
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Charger if you didn't read my other post I said I am going to wait for the replays because i couldn't stand watching anymore games. (which was 3) But you did make a very good point about the cheating thing, Ive seen some livestreams where I'm certain that 1 of the players playing was listening and could tell when the other person was dropping/attacking/expanding, and I think thats just sad how some top players will cheat. I just can't believe how long this tourney is going to take, by the time the replays are out I doubt many people will be interested since there will be other tourneys being held, but i guess all we can do is wait and see right?
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Well have fun waiting
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YOU DO realize that many of the NA matches are scheduled precisely at the same dates that IEM American Championships is scheduled, right? And several of the NA players will be attending the IEM so... it seems there is a schedule conflict here??
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replays will be casted, so i dont think theres a conflict there
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On October 03 2010 17:08 ThePrince wrote:
YOU DO realize that many of the NA matches are scheduled precisely at the same dates that IEM American Championships is scheduled, right? And several of the NA players will be attending the IEM so... it seems there is a schedule conflict here??
The matches are played out before and the replays are casted. It's perfectly fine.
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Oh ok. Nevermind then
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Hey BigT just wondering if your going to co-cast some of the games. I think you should raise your voice when a battle is about to commence, people love that kind of stuff. Also Id like it if TL would feature your tourny games, this is starting to get a little ridiculous! Lets all get offended at BigT`s pottly mouth lol.
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On October 04 2010 06:00 YJ_ wrote:
Hey BigT just wondering if your going to co-cast some of the games. I think you should raise your voice when a battle is about to commence, people love that kind of stuff. Also Id like it if TL would feature your tourny games, this is starting to get a little ridiculous! Lets all get offended at BigT`s pottly mouth lol.
I keep seeing this argument over and over.
The tournament games he casts are featured by default, since he attaches his name to the event and is pulled to the top of the list. His tournament casts deserve to be featured because he puts so much effort into casting huge amounts of games.
However, it is my opinion, and the TL staff's opinion, that BigT's stream of him playing isn't high quality enough to be featured. The commentary and gameplay both leave something to be desired. His playing stream does not deserve to be featured.
So, the current situation is the best of both worlds. He is autofeatured when he casts an event, and not featured when he streams his own games. The logic is clear. I'm not sure how it's ridiculous at all. Implying that his stream should be permanently featured because of his tournament casting, when a significant amount of time he is streaming himself playing, is actually ridiculous in my eyes.
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Really excited for the the next games. Hoping HuK and Dimaga perform well
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On October 05 2010 02:34 Chill wrote:Show nested quote +On October 04 2010 06:00 YJ_ wrote:
Hey BigT just wondering if your going to co-cast some of the games. I think you should raise your voice when a battle is about to commence, people love that kind of stuff. Also Id like it if TL would feature your tourny games, this is starting to get a little ridiculous! Lets all get offended at BigT`s pottly mouth lol. I keep seeing this argument over and over. The tournament games he casts are featured by default, since he attaches his name to the event and is pulled to the top of the list. His tournament casts deserve to be featured because he puts so much effort into casting huge amounts of games. However, it is my opinion, and the TL staff's opinion, that BigT's stream of him playing isn't high quality enough to be featured. The commentary and gameplay both leave something to be desired. His playing stream does not deserve to be featured. So, the current situation is the best of both worlds. He is autofeatured when he casts an event, and not featured when he streams his own games. The logic is clear. I'm not sure how it's ridiculous at all. Implying that his stream should be permanently featured because of his tournament casting, when a significant amount of time he is streaming himself playing, is actually ridiculous in my eyes.
Well since you brought it up, other casters get this luxury... Many featured streamers are only casters and are no where near the top level (not directing this at you). At least I'm a 1400 protoss who beats top players. So I think it's silly that other casters get that luxury and I don't when I put in so much effort, cast so many tournaments, and help out the community in every way that I can.
EDIT: PS even though the tournament is on the calender, I still never get a star next to my stream, "featured" on the top of the sc2 page stream list, or a VOD preview on the stream page. So even by saying it's fair the way it is right now, its really no where near the same.
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On October 05 2010 02:34 Chill wrote:Show nested quote +On October 04 2010 06:00 YJ_ wrote:
Hey BigT just wondering if your going to co-cast some of the games. I think you should raise your voice when a battle is about to commence, people love that kind of stuff. Also Id like it if TL would feature your tourny games, this is starting to get a little ridiculous! Lets all get offended at BigT`s pottly mouth lol. I keep seeing this argument over and over. The tournament games he casts are featured by default, since he attaches his name to the event and is pulled to the top of the list. His tournament casts deserve to be featured because he puts so much effort into casting huge amounts of games. However, it is my opinion, and the TL staff's opinion, that BigT's stream of him playing isn't high quality enough to be featured. The commentary and gameplay both leave something to be desired. His playing stream does not deserve to be featured. So, the current situation is the best of both worlds. He is autofeatured when he casts an event, and not featured when he streams his own games. The logic is clear. I'm not sure how it's ridiculous at all. Implying that his stream should be permanently featured because of his tournament casting, when a significant amount of time he is streaming himself playing, is actually ridiculous in my eyes.
but when we were talking about orb shouldnt deserve to be streamed cause many thought he was a bad player, but then u said he is featured because he has alot of viewers
imo a laddering player whos streaming with high quality and talking meanwhile, and such a big name as bigt (lol just got the pun in my own sentence here after reading it, im so clever i dont even know about it xd) should be featured even if hes not a great player. thats like me starting to play zerg and stream you would autofeature me even tho my zerg sucks, but because im a "famous" player and brings in viewers u would let me be featured. this goes for orb and everyone ive seen on the features, so why shouldnt this apply to bigt aswell?
(im not gonna start stream me as a zerg, it was just an example)
ive seen esl main streams play luls games while being featured when they were playing themselves, and let me say they were nowhere near 1.4k. but it had alot of viewers and ppl had alot of fun so they are featured because of their casting, and they can stay featured while having fun aswell because it would be quite harsh to unfeature official esl streams just because they ladder once in a while while streaming... while
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On October 05 2010 02:39 Alou wrote:Really excited for the the next games. Hoping HuK and Dimaga perform well
SAME MAN!! I haven't seen the replays yet so I'm fucking pumped :D
On October 05 2010 06:07 MorroW wrote:Show nested quote +On October 05 2010 02:34 Chill wrote:On October 04 2010 06:00 YJ_ wrote:
Hey BigT just wondering if your going to co-cast some of the games. I think you should raise your voice when a battle is about to commence, people love that kind of stuff. Also Id like it if TL would feature your tourny games, this is starting to get a little ridiculous! Lets all get offended at BigT`s pottly mouth lol. I keep seeing this argument over and over. The tournament games he casts are featured by default, since he attaches his name to the event and is pulled to the top of the list. His tournament casts deserve to be featured because he puts so much effort into casting huge amounts of games. However, it is my opinion, and the TL staff's opinion, that BigT's stream of him playing isn't high quality enough to be featured. The commentary and gameplay both leave something to be desired. His playing stream does not deserve to be featured. So, the current situation is the best of both worlds. He is autofeatured when he casts an event, and not featured when he streams his own games. The logic is clear. I'm not sure how it's ridiculous at all. Implying that his stream should be permanently featured because of his tournament casting, when a significant amount of time he is streaming himself playing, is actually ridiculous in my eyes. but when we were talking about orb shouldnt deserve to be streamed cause many thought he was a bad player, but then u said he is featured because he has alot of viewers imo a laddering player whos streaming with high quality and talking meanwhile, and such a big name as bigt (lol just got the pun in my own sentence here after reading it, im so clever i dont even know about it xd) should be featured even if hes not a great player. thats like me starting to play zerg and stream you would autofeature me even tho my zerg sucks, but because im a "famous" player and brings in viewers u would let me be featured. this goes for orb and everyone ive seen on the features, so why shouldnt this apply to bigt aswell? (im not gonna start stream me as a zerg, it was just an example) ive seen esl main streams play luls games while being featured when they were playing themselves, and let me say they were nowhere near 1.4k. but it had alot of viewers and ppl had alot of fun so they are featured because of their casting, and they can stay featured while having fun aswell because it would be quite harsh to unfeature official esl streams just because they ladder once in a while while streaming... while
I agree with all of this.
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On October 05 2010 05:56 BigT wrote:Show nested quote +On October 05 2010 02:34 Chill wrote:On October 04 2010 06:00 YJ_ wrote:
Hey BigT just wondering if your going to co-cast some of the games. I think you should raise your voice when a battle is about to commence, people love that kind of stuff. Also Id like it if TL would feature your tourny games, this is starting to get a little ridiculous! Lets all get offended at BigT`s pottly mouth lol. I keep seeing this argument over and over. The tournament games he casts are featured by default, since he attaches his name to the event and is pulled to the top of the list. His tournament casts deserve to be featured because he puts so much effort into casting huge amounts of games. However, it is my opinion, and the TL staff's opinion, that BigT's stream of him playing isn't high quality enough to be featured. The commentary and gameplay both leave something to be desired. His playing stream does not deserve to be featured. So, the current situation is the best of both worlds. He is autofeatured when he casts an event, and not featured when he streams his own games. The logic is clear. I'm not sure how it's ridiculous at all. Implying that his stream should be permanently featured because of his tournament casting, when a significant amount of time he is streaming himself playing, is actually ridiculous in my eyes. Well since you brought it up, other casters get this luxury... Many featured streamers are only casters and are no where near the top level (not directing this at you). At least I'm a 1400 protoss who beats top players. So I think it's silly that other casters get that luxury and I don't when I put in so much effort, cast so many tournaments, and help out the community in every way that I can. EDIT: PS even though the tournament is on the calender, I still never get a star next to my stream, "featured" on the top of the sc2 page stream list, or a VOD preview on the stream page. So even by saying it's fair the way it is right now, its really no where near the same.
You see it as additive: You do good commentary and mediocre (by my opinion) gaming and the result is A + b
I see it as averaging. You do good commentary and mediocre gaming and the result is (A + b)/t.
Therefore, by my opinion, streaming mediocre play is bringing your quality down rather than raising it. If you disagree, it's just a difference of opinion between what we expect from featured streams.
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On October 05 2010 06:07 MorroW wrote:Show nested quote +On October 05 2010 02:34 Chill wrote:On October 04 2010 06:00 YJ_ wrote:
Hey BigT just wondering if your going to co-cast some of the games. I think you should raise your voice when a battle is about to commence, people love that kind of stuff. Also Id like it if TL would feature your tourny games, this is starting to get a little ridiculous! Lets all get offended at BigT`s pottly mouth lol. I keep seeing this argument over and over. The tournament games he casts are featured by default, since he attaches his name to the event and is pulled to the top of the list. His tournament casts deserve to be featured because he puts so much effort into casting huge amounts of games. However, it is my opinion, and the TL staff's opinion, that BigT's stream of him playing isn't high quality enough to be featured. The commentary and gameplay both leave something to be desired. His playing stream does not deserve to be featured. So, the current situation is the best of both worlds. He is autofeatured when he casts an event, and not featured when he streams his own games. The logic is clear. I'm not sure how it's ridiculous at all. Implying that his stream should be permanently featured because of his tournament casting, when a significant amount of time he is streaming himself playing, is actually ridiculous in my eyes. but when we were talking about orb shouldnt deserve to be streamed cause many thought he was a bad player, but then u said he is featured because he has alot of viewers
Go ahead and cite me saying that Morrow. Let me get you started: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/search.php?q=orb viewers&t=c&f=-1&u=chill&gb=date
imo a laddering player whos streaming with high quality and talking meanwhile, and such a big name as bigt (lol just got the pun in my own sentence here after reading it, im so clever i dont even know about it xd) should be featured even if hes not a great player. thats like me starting to play zerg and stream you would autofeature me even tho my zerg sucks, but because im a "famous" player and brings in viewers u would let me be featured. this goes for orb and everyone ive seen on the features, so why shouldnt this apply to bigt aswell?
(im not gonna start stream me as a zerg, it was just an example)
Your Zerg stream would be auto-feature because you are one of the top foreigner players playing a new race - that's interesting. If you were doing mediocre casting on top of your Zerg streaming, well then we would have to reconsider your streaming status.
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On October 05 2010 06:43 Chill wrote:Show nested quote +On October 05 2010 05:56 BigT wrote:On October 05 2010 02:34 Chill wrote:On October 04 2010 06:00 YJ_ wrote:
Hey BigT just wondering if your going to co-cast some of the games. I think you should raise your voice when a battle is about to commence, people love that kind of stuff. Also Id like it if TL would feature your tourny games, this is starting to get a little ridiculous! Lets all get offended at BigT`s pottly mouth lol. I keep seeing this argument over and over. The tournament games he casts are featured by default, since he attaches his name to the event and is pulled to the top of the list. His tournament casts deserve to be featured because he puts so much effort into casting huge amounts of games. However, it is my opinion, and the TL staff's opinion, that BigT's stream of him playing isn't high quality enough to be featured. The commentary and gameplay both leave something to be desired. His playing stream does not deserve to be featured. So, the current situation is the best of both worlds. He is autofeatured when he casts an event, and not featured when he streams his own games. The logic is clear. I'm not sure how it's ridiculous at all. Implying that his stream should be permanently featured because of his tournament casting, when a significant amount of time he is streaming himself playing, is actually ridiculous in my eyes. Well since you brought it up, other casters get this luxury... Many featured streamers are only casters and are no where near the top level (not directing this at you). At least I'm a 1400 protoss who beats top players. So I think it's silly that other casters get that luxury and I don't when I put in so much effort, cast so many tournaments, and help out the community in every way that I can. EDIT: PS even though the tournament is on the calender, I still never get a star next to my stream, "featured" on the top of the sc2 page stream list, or a VOD preview on the stream page. So even by saying it's fair the way it is right now, its really no where near the same. You see it as additive: You do good commentary and mediocre (by my opinion) gaming and the result is A + b I see it as averaging. You do good commentary and mediocre gaming and the result is (A + b)/t. Therefore, by my opinion, streaming mediocre play is bringing your quality down rather than raising it. If you disagree, it's just a difference of opinion between what we expect from featured streams.
if u were averaging it gunrun wouldnt be featured
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On October 05 2010 06:58 Sfydjklm wrote:Show nested quote +On October 05 2010 06:43 Chill wrote:On October 05 2010 05:56 BigT wrote:On October 05 2010 02:34 Chill wrote:On October 04 2010 06:00 YJ_ wrote:
Hey BigT just wondering if your going to co-cast some of the games. I think you should raise your voice when a battle is about to commence, people love that kind of stuff. Also Id like it if TL would feature your tourny games, this is starting to get a little ridiculous! Lets all get offended at BigT`s pottly mouth lol. I keep seeing this argument over and over. The tournament games he casts are featured by default, since he attaches his name to the event and is pulled to the top of the list. His tournament casts deserve to be featured because he puts so much effort into casting huge amounts of games. However, it is my opinion, and the TL staff's opinion, that BigT's stream of him playing isn't high quality enough to be featured. The commentary and gameplay both leave something to be desired. His playing stream does not deserve to be featured. So, the current situation is the best of both worlds. He is autofeatured when he casts an event, and not featured when he streams his own games. The logic is clear. I'm not sure how it's ridiculous at all. Implying that his stream should be permanently featured because of his tournament casting, when a significant amount of time he is streaming himself playing, is actually ridiculous in my eyes. Well since you brought it up, other casters get this luxury... Many featured streamers are only casters and are no where near the top level (not directing this at you). At least I'm a 1400 protoss who beats top players. So I think it's silly that other casters get that luxury and I don't when I put in so much effort, cast so many tournaments, and help out the community in every way that I can. EDIT: PS even though the tournament is on the calender, I still never get a star next to my stream, "featured" on the top of the sc2 page stream list, or a VOD preview on the stream page. So even by saying it's fair the way it is right now, its really no where near the same. You see it as additive: You do good commentary and mediocre (by my opinion) gaming and the result is A + b I see it as averaging. You do good commentary and mediocre gaming and the result is (A + b)/t. Therefore, by my opinion, streaming mediocre play is bringing your quality down rather than raising it. If you disagree, it's just a difference of opinion between what we expect from featured streams. if u were averaging it gunrun wouldnt be featured
Personally, I've never seen glhf.tv stream anything but tournaments.
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On October 05 2010 07:02 Chill wrote:Show nested quote +On October 05 2010 06:58 Sfydjklm wrote:On October 05 2010 06:43 Chill wrote:On October 05 2010 05:56 BigT wrote:On October 05 2010 02:34 Chill wrote:On October 04 2010 06:00 YJ_ wrote:
Hey BigT just wondering if your going to co-cast some of the games. I think you should raise your voice when a battle is about to commence, people love that kind of stuff. Also Id like it if TL would feature your tourny games, this is starting to get a little ridiculous! Lets all get offended at BigT`s pottly mouth lol. I keep seeing this argument over and over. The tournament games he casts are featured by default, since he attaches his name to the event and is pulled to the top of the list. His tournament casts deserve to be featured because he puts so much effort into casting huge amounts of games. However, it is my opinion, and the TL staff's opinion, that BigT's stream of him playing isn't high quality enough to be featured. The commentary and gameplay both leave something to be desired. His playing stream does not deserve to be featured. So, the current situation is the best of both worlds. He is autofeatured when he casts an event, and not featured when he streams his own games. The logic is clear. I'm not sure how it's ridiculous at all. Implying that his stream should be permanently featured because of his tournament casting, when a significant amount of time he is streaming himself playing, is actually ridiculous in my eyes. Well since you brought it up, other casters get this luxury... Many featured streamers are only casters and are no where near the top level (not directing this at you). At least I'm a 1400 protoss who beats top players. So I think it's silly that other casters get that luxury and I don't when I put in so much effort, cast so many tournaments, and help out the community in every way that I can. EDIT: PS even though the tournament is on the calender, I still never get a star next to my stream, "featured" on the top of the sc2 page stream list, or a VOD preview on the stream page. So even by saying it's fair the way it is right now, its really no where near the same. You see it as additive: You do good commentary and mediocre (by my opinion) gaming and the result is A + b I see it as averaging. You do good commentary and mediocre gaming and the result is (A + b)/t. Therefore, by my opinion, streaming mediocre play is bringing your quality down rather than raising it. If you disagree, it's just a difference of opinion between what we expect from featured streams. if u were averaging it gunrun wouldnt be featured Personally, I've never seen glhf.tv stream anything but tournaments.
They do, and its not good
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On October 05 2010 06:43 Chill wrote:Show nested quote +On October 05 2010 05:56 BigT wrote:On October 05 2010 02:34 Chill wrote:On October 04 2010 06:00 YJ_ wrote:
Hey BigT just wondering if your going to co-cast some of the games. I think you should raise your voice when a battle is about to commence, people love that kind of stuff. Also Id like it if TL would feature your tourny games, this is starting to get a little ridiculous! Lets all get offended at BigT`s pottly mouth lol. I keep seeing this argument over and over. The tournament games he casts are featured by default, since he attaches his name to the event and is pulled to the top of the list. His tournament casts deserve to be featured because he puts so much effort into casting huge amounts of games. However, it is my opinion, and the TL staff's opinion, that BigT's stream of him playing isn't high quality enough to be featured. The commentary and gameplay both leave something to be desired. His playing stream does not deserve to be featured. So, the current situation is the best of both worlds. He is autofeatured when he casts an event, and not featured when he streams his own games. The logic is clear. I'm not sure how it's ridiculous at all. Implying that his stream should be permanently featured because of his tournament casting, when a significant amount of time he is streaming himself playing, is actually ridiculous in my eyes. Well since you brought it up, other casters get this luxury... Many featured streamers are only casters and are no where near the top level (not directing this at you). At least I'm a 1400 protoss who beats top players. So I think it's silly that other casters get that luxury and I don't when I put in so much effort, cast so many tournaments, and help out the community in every way that I can. EDIT: PS even though the tournament is on the calender, I still never get a star next to my stream, "featured" on the top of the sc2 page stream list, or a VOD preview on the stream page. So even by saying it's fair the way it is right now, its really no where near the same. You see it as additive: You do good commentary and mediocre (by my opinion) gaming and the result is A + b I see it as averaging. You do good commentary and mediocre gaming and the result is (A + b)/t. Therefore, by my opinion, streaming mediocre play is bringing your quality down rather than raising it. If you disagree, it's just a difference of opinion between what we expect from featured streams.
Nobody is saying BigT is a top player, but take into consideration he is playing in one of the toughest US divistions. HuK is no1 I think LZ is in the same div, with some other top players.
When BigT was in the beta he was constantly no1.
He aint a mediocre player, hes in the top 10%, thats not mediocre. Maybe a platinum player could be considered that.
Let me ask this question, are the players he plays on ladder mediocre?
I dont know what happened to his streams, they were top quality in the beta. At least they dont freeze every 5 seconds anymore.
BigT you could use a rub from some of the more respected commentators in SC2, I recommend co-casting with some of the top guys!
I was watching some commentary from live streams on Sunday, ( dont want to mention any names ) but the commentary was so bad I couldnt watch it after 10 mins. There goes your quality for featured streams.
TL your RTS elitest additude died about 5 years ago, get with the times or your going to get left in the dust when it comes to E-sports.
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Its obviously a personal attack on BigT. At any rate enjoying the tourney so far T
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On October 05 2010 07:07 Pekkz wrote:Show nested quote +On October 05 2010 07:02 Chill wrote:On October 05 2010 06:58 Sfydjklm wrote:On October 05 2010 06:43 Chill wrote:On October 05 2010 05:56 BigT wrote:On October 05 2010 02:34 Chill wrote:On October 04 2010 06:00 YJ_ wrote:
Hey BigT just wondering if your going to co-cast some of the games. I think you should raise your voice when a battle is about to commence, people love that kind of stuff. Also Id like it if TL would feature your tourny games, this is starting to get a little ridiculous! Lets all get offended at BigT`s pottly mouth lol. I keep seeing this argument over and over. The tournament games he casts are featured by default, since he attaches his name to the event and is pulled to the top of the list. His tournament casts deserve to be featured because he puts so much effort into casting huge amounts of games. However, it is my opinion, and the TL staff's opinion, that BigT's stream of him playing isn't high quality enough to be featured. The commentary and gameplay both leave something to be desired. His playing stream does not deserve to be featured. So, the current situation is the best of both worlds. He is autofeatured when he casts an event, and not featured when he streams his own games. The logic is clear. I'm not sure how it's ridiculous at all. Implying that his stream should be permanently featured because of his tournament casting, when a significant amount of time he is streaming himself playing, is actually ridiculous in my eyes. Well since you brought it up, other casters get this luxury... Many featured streamers are only casters and are no where near the top level (not directing this at you). At least I'm a 1400 protoss who beats top players. So I think it's silly that other casters get that luxury and I don't when I put in so much effort, cast so many tournaments, and help out the community in every way that I can. EDIT: PS even though the tournament is on the calender, I still never get a star next to my stream, "featured" on the top of the sc2 page stream list, or a VOD preview on the stream page. So even by saying it's fair the way it is right now, its really no where near the same. You see it as additive: You do good commentary and mediocre (by my opinion) gaming and the result is A + b I see it as averaging. You do good commentary and mediocre gaming and the result is (A + b)/t. Therefore, by my opinion, streaming mediocre play is bringing your quality down rather than raising it. If you disagree, it's just a difference of opinion between what we expect from featured streams. if u were averaging it gunrun wouldnt be featured Personally, I've never seen glhf.tv stream anything but tournaments. They do, and its not good
Yupp, and i could name atleast 10 more streamers that are featured, and by your end all "additive streaming formulat" wouldn't even come close to making it lol.
AND since it's just additive, even my "average gameplay" would raise my overall score above those who ONLY cast or ONLY play...
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Calgary25979 Posts
On October 05 2010 07:38 BigT wrote:Show nested quote +On October 05 2010 07:07 Pekkz wrote:On October 05 2010 07:02 Chill wrote:On October 05 2010 06:58 Sfydjklm wrote:On October 05 2010 06:43 Chill wrote:On October 05 2010 05:56 BigT wrote:On October 05 2010 02:34 Chill wrote:On October 04 2010 06:00 YJ_ wrote:
Hey BigT just wondering if your going to co-cast some of the games. I think you should raise your voice when a battle is about to commence, people love that kind of stuff. Also Id like it if TL would feature your tourny games, this is starting to get a little ridiculous! Lets all get offended at BigT`s pottly mouth lol. I keep seeing this argument over and over. The tournament games he casts are featured by default, since he attaches his name to the event and is pulled to the top of the list. His tournament casts deserve to be featured because he puts so much effort into casting huge amounts of games. However, it is my opinion, and the TL staff's opinion, that BigT's stream of him playing isn't high quality enough to be featured. The commentary and gameplay both leave something to be desired. His playing stream does not deserve to be featured. So, the current situation is the best of both worlds. He is autofeatured when he casts an event, and not featured when he streams his own games. The logic is clear. I'm not sure how it's ridiculous at all. Implying that his stream should be permanently featured because of his tournament casting, when a significant amount of time he is streaming himself playing, is actually ridiculous in my eyes. Well since you brought it up, other casters get this luxury... Many featured streamers are only casters and are no where near the top level (not directing this at you). At least I'm a 1400 protoss who beats top players. So I think it's silly that other casters get that luxury and I don't when I put in so much effort, cast so many tournaments, and help out the community in every way that I can. EDIT: PS even though the tournament is on the calender, I still never get a star next to my stream, "featured" on the top of the sc2 page stream list, or a VOD preview on the stream page. So even by saying it's fair the way it is right now, its really no where near the same. You see it as additive: You do good commentary and mediocre (by my opinion) gaming and the result is A + b I see it as averaging. You do good commentary and mediocre gaming and the result is (A + b)/t. Therefore, by my opinion, streaming mediocre play is bringing your quality down rather than raising it. If you disagree, it's just a difference of opinion between what we expect from featured streams. if u were averaging it gunrun wouldnt be featured Personally, I've never seen glhf.tv stream anything but tournaments. They do, and its not good Yupp, and i could name atleast 10 more streamers that are featured, and by your end all "additive streaming formulat" wouldn't even come close to making it lol. AND since it's just additive, even my "average gameplay" would raise my overall score above those who ONLY cast or ONLY play...
Good luck with that.
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On October 05 2010 07:02 Chill wrote:Show nested quote +On October 05 2010 06:58 Sfydjklm wrote:On October 05 2010 06:43 Chill wrote:On October 05 2010 05:56 BigT wrote:On October 05 2010 02:34 Chill wrote:On October 04 2010 06:00 YJ_ wrote:
Hey BigT just wondering if your going to co-cast some of the games. I think you should raise your voice when a battle is about to commence, people love that kind of stuff. Also Id like it if TL would feature your tourny games, this is starting to get a little ridiculous! Lets all get offended at BigT`s pottly mouth lol. I keep seeing this argument over and over. The tournament games he casts are featured by default, since he attaches his name to the event and is pulled to the top of the list. His tournament casts deserve to be featured because he puts so much effort into casting huge amounts of games. However, it is my opinion, and the TL staff's opinion, that BigT's stream of him playing isn't high quality enough to be featured. The commentary and gameplay both leave something to be desired. His playing stream does not deserve to be featured. So, the current situation is the best of both worlds. He is autofeatured when he casts an event, and not featured when he streams his own games. The logic is clear. I'm not sure how it's ridiculous at all. Implying that his stream should be permanently featured because of his tournament casting, when a significant amount of time he is streaming himself playing, is actually ridiculous in my eyes. Well since you brought it up, other casters get this luxury... Many featured streamers are only casters and are no where near the top level (not directing this at you). At least I'm a 1400 protoss who beats top players. So I think it's silly that other casters get that luxury and I don't when I put in so much effort, cast so many tournaments, and help out the community in every way that I can. EDIT: PS even though the tournament is on the calender, I still never get a star next to my stream, "featured" on the top of the sc2 page stream list, or a VOD preview on the stream page. So even by saying it's fair the way it is right now, its really no where near the same. You see it as additive: You do good commentary and mediocre (by my opinion) gaming and the result is A + b I see it as averaging. You do good commentary and mediocre gaming and the result is (A + b)/t. Therefore, by my opinion, streaming mediocre play is bringing your quality down rather than raising it. If you disagree, it's just a difference of opinion between what we expect from featured streams. if u were averaging it gunrun wouldnt be featured Personally, I've never seen glhf.tv stream anything but tournaments.
they you obviously dont watch team liquid a lot chill.
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Hey T, Welcome back. Hope you had a great time at WCG. Sure have missed your stream this past week. Been desperately trying to find someone I can enjoy watching, but besides the occasional tourney, just hadn't been found anyone to scratch the toss itch that is as good with their viewers.
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On October 05 2010 07:44 Chill wrote:Show nested quote +On October 05 2010 07:38 BigT wrote:On October 05 2010 07:07 Pekkz wrote:On October 05 2010 07:02 Chill wrote:On October 05 2010 06:58 Sfydjklm wrote:On October 05 2010 06:43 Chill wrote:On October 05 2010 05:56 BigT wrote:On October 05 2010 02:34 Chill wrote:On October 04 2010 06:00 YJ_ wrote:
Hey BigT just wondering if your going to co-cast some of the games. I think you should raise your voice when a battle is about to commence, people love that kind of stuff. Also Id like it if TL would feature your tourny games, this is starting to get a little ridiculous! Lets all get offended at BigT`s pottly mouth lol. I keep seeing this argument over and over. The tournament games he casts are featured by default, since he attaches his name to the event and is pulled to the top of the list. His tournament casts deserve to be featured because he puts so much effort into casting huge amounts of games. However, it is my opinion, and the TL staff's opinion, that BigT's stream of him playing isn't high quality enough to be featured. The commentary and gameplay both leave something to be desired. His playing stream does not deserve to be featured. So, the current situation is the best of both worlds. He is autofeatured when he casts an event, and not featured when he streams his own games. The logic is clear. I'm not sure how it's ridiculous at all. Implying that his stream should be permanently featured because of his tournament casting, when a significant amount of time he is streaming himself playing, is actually ridiculous in my eyes. Well since you brought it up, other casters get this luxury... Many featured streamers are only casters and are no where near the top level (not directing this at you). At least I'm a 1400 protoss who beats top players. So I think it's silly that other casters get that luxury and I don't when I put in so much effort, cast so many tournaments, and help out the community in every way that I can. EDIT: PS even though the tournament is on the calender, I still never get a star next to my stream, "featured" on the top of the sc2 page stream list, or a VOD preview on the stream page. So even by saying it's fair the way it is right now, its really no where near the same. You see it as additive: You do good commentary and mediocre (by my opinion) gaming and the result is A + b I see it as averaging. You do good commentary and mediocre gaming and the result is (A + b)/t. Therefore, by my opinion, streaming mediocre play is bringing your quality down rather than raising it. If you disagree, it's just a difference of opinion between what we expect from featured streams. if u were averaging it gunrun wouldnt be featured Personally, I've never seen glhf.tv stream anything but tournaments. They do, and its not good Yupp, and i could name atleast 10 more streamers that are featured, and by your end all "additive streaming formulat" wouldn't even come close to making it lol. AND since it's just additive, even my "average gameplay" would raise my overall score above those who ONLY cast or ONLY play... Good luck with that.
i would think that A+ for playing and F for casting (since they dont cast) would bring down the overall score
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FuDDx
United States5008 Posts
I haven't watched Bigt streams yet. I really do not care what happens.Or happened. I have meet Chill and BigT booth were great guys in person. that said...This is Teamliquid and they do what they want arguing over this stuff is silly (from my limited view).
If teamliquid plays favorites like you think....then get with the times no matter where you go or who you are there will always be fan-boys/favoritism. not saying it does or does not exist here but cant we drop it its really not up to anyone other than TL admins period. Trying to argue with admins only makes it look kinda whiny IMO.
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On October 05 2010 07:38 BigT wrote:Show nested quote +On October 05 2010 07:07 Pekkz wrote:On October 05 2010 07:02 Chill wrote:On October 05 2010 06:58 Sfydjklm wrote:On October 05 2010 06:43 Chill wrote:On October 05 2010 05:56 BigT wrote:On October 05 2010 02:34 Chill wrote:On October 04 2010 06:00 YJ_ wrote:
Hey BigT just wondering if your going to co-cast some of the games. I think you should raise your voice when a battle is about to commence, people love that kind of stuff. Also Id like it if TL would feature your tourny games, this is starting to get a little ridiculous! Lets all get offended at BigT`s pottly mouth lol. I keep seeing this argument over and over. The tournament games he casts are featured by default, since he attaches his name to the event and is pulled to the top of the list. His tournament casts deserve to be featured because he puts so much effort into casting huge amounts of games. However, it is my opinion, and the TL staff's opinion, that BigT's stream of him playing isn't high quality enough to be featured. The commentary and gameplay both leave something to be desired. His playing stream does not deserve to be featured. So, the current situation is the best of both worlds. He is autofeatured when he casts an event, and not featured when he streams his own games. The logic is clear. I'm not sure how it's ridiculous at all. Implying that his stream should be permanently featured because of his tournament casting, when a significant amount of time he is streaming himself playing, is actually ridiculous in my eyes. Well since you brought it up, other casters get this luxury... Many featured streamers are only casters and are no where near the top level (not directing this at you). At least I'm a 1400 protoss who beats top players. So I think it's silly that other casters get that luxury and I don't when I put in so much effort, cast so many tournaments, and help out the community in every way that I can. EDIT: PS even though the tournament is on the calender, I still never get a star next to my stream, "featured" on the top of the sc2 page stream list, or a VOD preview on the stream page. So even by saying it's fair the way it is right now, its really no where near the same. You see it as additive: You do good commentary and mediocre (by my opinion) gaming and the result is A + b I see it as averaging. You do good commentary and mediocre gaming and the result is (A + b)/t. Therefore, by my opinion, streaming mediocre play is bringing your quality down rather than raising it. If you disagree, it's just a difference of opinion between what we expect from featured streams. if u were averaging it gunrun wouldnt be featured Personally, I've never seen glhf.tv stream anything but tournaments. They do, and its not good Yupp, and i could name atleast 10 more streamers that are featured, and by your end all "additive streaming formulat" wouldn't even come close to making it lol. AND since it's just additive, even my "average gameplay" would raise my overall score above those who ONLY cast or ONLY play...
It is precisely this mentality you have where you would rather delude yourself with fake logic rather than thinking that makes your casting very often misinformed. Your knack for making things up to sound like you understand is great for fooling the new players and yourself, but if you stopped to compare yourself, for one second, to any of the featured streams you would probably see that your stream leaves a lot to be desired.
Chill at least thinks that you do good commentary, which is more of a compliment than I would give.
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On October 05 2010 08:05 FuDDx wrote:
I haven't watched Bigt streams yet. I really do not care what happens.Or happened. I have meet Chill and BigT booth were great guys in person. that said...This is Teamliquid and they do what they want arguing over this stuff is silly (from my limited view).
If teamliquid plays favorites like you think....then get with the times no matter where you go or who you are there will always be fan-boys/favoritism. not saying it does or does not exist here but cant we drop it its really not up to anyone other than TL admins period. Trying to argue with admins only makes it look kinda whiny IMO.
Yo fudd, never got a balloon animal like promised >B(
And your right, but surprisingly its the admins who keep bringing it up, not me lol.
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On October 05 2010 07:11 YJ_ wrote:Show nested quote +On October 05 2010 06:43 Chill wrote:On October 05 2010 05:56 BigT wrote:On October 05 2010 02:34 Chill wrote:On October 04 2010 06:00 YJ_ wrote:
Hey BigT just wondering if your going to co-cast some of the games. I think you should raise your voice when a battle is about to commence, people love that kind of stuff. Also Id like it if TL would feature your tourny games, this is starting to get a little ridiculous! Lets all get offended at BigT`s pottly mouth lol. I keep seeing this argument over and over. The tournament games he casts are featured by default, since he attaches his name to the event and is pulled to the top of the list. His tournament casts deserve to be featured because he puts so much effort into casting huge amounts of games. However, it is my opinion, and the TL staff's opinion, that BigT's stream of him playing isn't high quality enough to be featured. The commentary and gameplay both leave something to be desired. His playing stream does not deserve to be featured. So, the current situation is the best of both worlds. He is autofeatured when he casts an event, and not featured when he streams his own games. The logic is clear. I'm not sure how it's ridiculous at all. Implying that his stream should be permanently featured because of his tournament casting, when a significant amount of time he is streaming himself playing, is actually ridiculous in my eyes. Well since you brought it up, other casters get this luxury... Many featured streamers are only casters and are no where near the top level (not directing this at you). At least I'm a 1400 protoss who beats top players. So I think it's silly that other casters get that luxury and I don't when I put in so much effort, cast so many tournaments, and help out the community in every way that I can. EDIT: PS even though the tournament is on the calender, I still never get a star next to my stream, "featured" on the top of the sc2 page stream list, or a VOD preview on the stream page. So even by saying it's fair the way it is right now, its really no where near the same. You see it as additive: You do good commentary and mediocre (by my opinion) gaming and the result is A + b I see it as averaging. You do good commentary and mediocre gaming and the result is (A + b)/t. Therefore, by my opinion, streaming mediocre play is bringing your quality down rather than raising it. If you disagree, it's just a difference of opinion between what we expect from featured streams. Nobody is saying BigT is a top player, but take into consideration he is playing in one of the toughest US divistions. HuK is no1 I think LZ is in the same div, with some other top players. When BigT was in the beta he was constantly no1. He aint a mediocre player, hes in the top 10%, thats not mediocre. Maybe a platinum player could be considered that. Let me ask this question, are the players he plays on ladder mediocre? I dont know what happened to his streams, they were top quality in the beta. At least they dont freeze every 5 seconds anymore. BigT you could use a rub from some of the more respected commentators in SC2, I recommend co-casting with some of the top guys! I was watching some commentary from live streams on Sunday, ( dont want to mention any names ) but the commentary was so bad I couldnt watch it after 10 mins. There goes your quality for featured streams. TL your RTS elitest additude died about 5 years ago, get with the times or your going to get left in the dust when it comes to E-sports.
What does being in a tough division have to do with anything? Division impacts absolutely nothing other than your rank, which nobody with even a vague understanding of the ladder system uses as a criteria for skill. He still plays people outside of his division.
That said, I don't think BigT should be featured, he's not that good. I don't think orb should be featured either, but to unfeature him now probably won't lead to anything positive.
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GLHF.TV is a featured stream because they have the highest quality stream around, have put in tons of work into the community and offered their help streaming and restreaming for major showmatches and tournaments. Not only that but they have helped countless other streamers with their settings in order to allow them to have 5000+ viewers for a show, look at day9 and djwheat, the people who stream for thousands go to gunrun for help on their stream.
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On October 05 2010 08:50 ZlaSHeR wrote:
GLHF.TV is a featured stream because they have the highest quality stream around, have put in tons of work into the community and offered their help streaming and restreaming for major showmatches and tournaments. Not only that but they have helped countless other streamers with their settings in order to allow them to have 5000+ viewers for a show, look at day9 and djwheat, the people who stream for thousands go to gunrun for help on their stream.
Yeah, i agree 100% with this. EVEN if they sometimes play and aren't that good, that shouldn't have an impact on whether or not they are featured. The same should then hold true for me as well.
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On October 05 2010 08:50 ZlaSHeR wrote:
GLHF.TV is a featured stream because they have the highest quality stream around, have put in tons of work into the community and offered their help streaming and restreaming for major showmatches and tournaments. Not only that but they have helped countless other streamers with their settings in order to allow them to have 5000+ viewers for a show, look at day9 and djwheat, the people who stream for thousands go to gunrun for help on their stream.
the arguement isnt whether glhf.tv is deserved of that honor, its that i just think chills "formula" isnt anywhere close to reality.
You can justify it any way you want but when push comes to shove streaming is a popularity contest(amongst viewers and moderators alike).
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hey Chris! why bother being featured atm? just play and improve and you will get there bud.
ur being featured when u stream tours? or its atleast easy to see ur stream, its just a star
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On October 05 2010 08:52 BigT wrote:Show nested quote +On October 05 2010 08:50 ZlaSHeR wrote:
GLHF.TV is a featured stream because they have the highest quality stream around, have put in tons of work into the community and offered their help streaming and restreaming for major showmatches and tournaments. Not only that but they have helped countless other streamers with their settings in order to allow them to have 5000+ viewers for a show, look at day9 and djwheat, the people who stream for thousands go to gunrun for help on their stream. Yeah, i agree 100% with this. EVEN if they sometimes play and aren't that good, that shouldn't have an impact on whether or not they are featured. The same should then hold true for me as well.
But one doesn't weigh as much as another. I think chill's saying your level of play doesn't, along with your other attributes, add up enough to be a featured streamer, whereas gunruns ability to help out the community does outweigh his gameplay (not like he ever streams himself playing sc2 much)
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I think the best bet to getting featured is to put up the best damn content you can and not talk about being featured at all. Your fans can help out by watching your stuff whenever it's on and remaining equally lax on the subject.
Good luck.
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On October 05 2010 09:10 Sfydjklm wrote:Show nested quote +On October 05 2010 08:50 ZlaSHeR wrote:
GLHF.TV is a featured stream because they have the highest quality stream around, have put in tons of work into the community and offered their help streaming and restreaming for major showmatches and tournaments. Not only that but they have helped countless other streamers with their settings in order to allow them to have 5000+ viewers for a show, look at day9 and djwheat, the people who stream for thousands go to gunrun for help on their stream. the arguement isnt whether glhf.tv is deserved of that honor, its that i just think chills "formula" isnt anywhere close to reality. You can justify it any way you want but when push comes to shove streaming is a popularity contest(amongst viewers and moderators alike).
Agree 110% but chill wont ever admit that.
On October 05 2010 09:26 ZlaSHeR wrote:Show nested quote +On October 05 2010 08:52 BigT wrote:On October 05 2010 08:50 ZlaSHeR wrote:
GLHF.TV is a featured stream because they have the highest quality stream around, have put in tons of work into the community and offered their help streaming and restreaming for major showmatches and tournaments. Not only that but they have helped countless other streamers with their settings in order to allow them to have 5000+ viewers for a show, look at day9 and djwheat, the people who stream for thousands go to gunrun for help on their stream. Yeah, i agree 100% with this. EVEN if they sometimes play and aren't that good, that shouldn't have an impact on whether or not they are featured. The same should then hold true for me as well. But one doesn't weigh as much as another. I think chill's saying your level of play doesn't, along with your other attributes, add up enough to be a featured streamer, whereas gunruns ability to help out the community does outweigh his gameplay (not like he ever streams himself playing sc2 much)
So, as long as i stop streaming my ladder games i should be featured then! :D
On October 05 2010 09:26 SiGurD wrote:hey Chris! why bother being featured atm? just play and improve and you will get there bud. ur being featured when u stream tours? or its atleast easy to see ur stream, its just a star
No where near the same thing.
On October 05 2010 09:41 urashimakt wrote:
I think the best bet to getting featured is to put up the best damn content you can and not talk about being featured at all. Your fans can help out by watching your stuff whenever it's on and remaining equally lax on the subject.
Good luck.
I have stopped bothering, trying, or bringing it up, it's not even worth the effort at this point because I know its impossible (not just mathematically lol). But when someone brings it up and says some ridiculous statements, I will say my opinion about it.
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FuDDx
United States5008 Posts
I know I know I missed getting so many people balloons.It was a whirlwind.I forgot to do the super hero wands staffs for he wcg admins though they never did remind me, forgot that until today.I also owe you ,the AG guys.Also I need to make Inka a Phoenix (bastard lol jk) And I am sure many others. I keep thinking of making you a Version of you just Mr. T ish hahahah. I will make you something it may be that you wont get to actually get it but Ill photo it and send it to you ^_^.
Was a pleasure meeting you and having you commentate my Asphalt 5 games!!!!
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On October 05 2010 09:49 FuDDx wrote:
I know I know I missed getting so many people balloons.It was a whirlwind.I forgot to do the super hero wands staffs for he wcg admins though they never did remind me, forgot that until today.I also owe you ,the AG guys.Also I need to make Inka a Phoenix (bastard lol jk) And I am sure many others. I keep thinking of making you a Version of you just Mr. T ish hahahah. I will make you something it may be that you wont get to actually get it but Ill photo it and send it to you ^_^.
Was a pleasure meeting you and having you commentate my Asphalt 5 games!!!!
ROFL... A Big T balloon animal... that would be epic! Are you going to MLG?? I'll probably be there ^^*
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@ chill
You prob shouldn't let your personal opinion decide who gets featured or not. Your not here to play favorites to be honest, your hear to expand E-sports and to help others enjoy it as well. You let your personal opinion decide weather or not BigT is featured or not. In my opion BigT has Great stream quality(one of the best), Awesome commentary, Great game play(talks about why or why he didn't do something, and discusses his BO) this i never see with half the featured streamer, and Bigt is one of the few that will sit and talk with the viewers. Heck none of the featured streamers talk with their viewers as much as BigT does(excluding Day9).
But again this is my opinion and shouldn't lead to him being featured.
What you should look at is Does BigT bring in viewers? Which he does, and i have notice that BigT has more viewers then most of the featured streamers that you have made featured. This is about expanding E-sports not deciding who is your best friend and who you do not like personally.
But again this is just me talking and hoping E-sports get big in NA. But it gets hard when people let their personal opinion speak for them.
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On October 05 2010 09:54 crawlintik wrote:
@ chill
You prob shouldn't let your personal opinion decide who gets featured or not. Your not here to play favorites to be honest, your hear to expand E-sports and to help others enjoy it as well. You let your personal opinion decide weather or not BigT is featured or not. In my opion BigT has Great stream quality(one of the best), Awesome commentary, Great game play(talks about why or why he didn't do something, and discusses his BO) this i never see with half the featured streamer, and Bigt is one of the few that will sit and talk with the viewers. Heck none of the featured streamers talk with their viewers as much as BigT does(excluding Day9).
But again this is my opinion and shouldn't lead to him being featured.
What you should look at is Does BigT bring in viewers? Which he does, and i have notice that BigT has more viewers then most of the featured streamers that you have made featured. This is about expanding E-sports not deciding who is your best friend and who you do not like personally.
But again this is just me talking and hoping E-sports get big in NA. But it gets hard when people let their personal opinion speak for them.
One thing people don't take into account is also how hard it is to try to expand e-sports when I am getting cock blocked so hard. Expanding e-sports, specifically SC2, is my primary goal and it's just like a constant uphill battle trying to gain support and really expand SC2 the way I want to with all the negativity from tl for no good reason. I agree with you 100%. Opinions should not determine who gets featured or not, nor should politics, but that's just the world we live in.
I would just like to make a proposal. Just work with me for a couple of months. Feature me, see if tl completely ends because of it or not, and see just how much I'm able to do with the increased viewership. Because I can't say I'm the best caster or the most talented gamer, but I can say for damn sure that I'm the most driven, determined, and passionate streamer there is.
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Calgary25979 Posts
On October 05 2010 09:54 crawlintik wrote:
Your not here to play favorites to be honest, your hear to expand E-sports and to help others enjoy it as well.
Is this a joke?
To be clear: I have no responsibility to "expand e-sports", whatever the fuck that may mean. My only goal is to put people on the TL feature list that I think belong there. If the people above me (administrators) don't think I'm doing my job well, then someone else will be given the role and they can do it via their own set of criteria.
If you have a problem with this, let's take it to PMs because this is derailing fast.
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On October 05 2010 12:18 Chill wrote:Show nested quote +On October 05 2010 09:54 crawlintik wrote:
Your not here to play favorites to be honest, your hear to expand E-sports and to help others enjoy it as well. If you have a problem with this, let's take it to PMs because this is derailing fast.
You should use your own advice...
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On October 05 2010 12:18 Chill wrote:Show nested quote +On October 05 2010 09:54 crawlintik wrote:
Your not here to play favorites to be honest, your hear to expand E-sports and to help others enjoy it as well. Is this a joke? To be clear: I have no responsibility to "expand e-sports", whatever the fuck that may mean. My only goal is to put people on the TL feature list that I think belong there. If the people above me (administrators) don't think I'm doing my job well, then someone else will be given the role and they can do it via their own set of criteria. If you have a problem with this, let's take it to PMs because this is derailing fast.
And my Point has been made.
Okay lets get this thread back on track. Who else cant wait to see Huk in this tournament?
Or see the final matched in Big T brawl i know I'm really excited.
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To be on topic: Did anyone every break up the vod for smaller use? Its still a pain in the ass to try navigating through that giant vod.
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Nah he just got back from casting a tournament so he will be working on it as soon as possible.
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Well i know that, but i thought he said he was trying to get someone else to do it so i was wondering if anyone ever took up the task.
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On October 05 2010 09:54 crawlintik wrote:
@ chill
You prob shouldn't let your personal opinion decide who gets featured or not. Your not here to play favorites to be honest, your hear to expand E-sports and to help others enjoy it as well. You let your personal opinion decide weather or not BigT is featured or not. In my opion BigT has Great stream quality(one of the best), Awesome commentary, Great game play(talks about why or why he didn't do something, and discusses his BO) this i never see with half the featured streamer, and Bigt is one of the few that will sit and talk with the viewers. Heck none of the featured streamers talk with their viewers as much as BigT does(excluding Day9).
But again this is my opinion and shouldn't lead to him being featured.
What you should look at is Does BigT bring in viewers? Which he does, and i have notice that BigT has more viewers then most of the featured streamers that you have made featured. This is about expanding E-sports not deciding who is your best friend and who you do not like personally.
But again this is just me talking and hoping E-sports get big in NA. But it gets hard when people let their personal opinion speak for them.
if esports is gonna get big its not gonna be because of people like bigt
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I don't really care about the outcome of this debate, but the gunrun point made above was a good one. He doesn't seem to know much about BW or SC2.
Sometimes it's easier to win arguments if you don't argue against what appears to be reality.
There is a popularity contest going on. Like anything, it's deniable by writing a trenchant reply to this post, but it's also true and obvious to anyone paying attention.
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On October 05 2010 13:19 IdrA wrote:Show nested quote +On October 05 2010 09:54 crawlintik wrote:
@ chill
You prob shouldn't let your personal opinion decide who gets featured or not. Your not here to play favorites to be honest, your hear to expand E-sports and to help others enjoy it as well. You let your personal opinion decide weather or not BigT is featured or not. In my opion BigT has Great stream quality(one of the best), Awesome commentary, Great game play(talks about why or why he didn't do something, and discusses his BO) this i never see with half the featured streamer, and Bigt is one of the few that will sit and talk with the viewers. Heck none of the featured streamers talk with their viewers as much as BigT does(excluding Day9).
But again this is my opinion and shouldn't lead to him being featured.
What you should look at is Does BigT bring in viewers? Which he does, and i have notice that BigT has more viewers then most of the featured streamers that you have made featured. This is about expanding E-sports not deciding who is your best friend and who you do not like personally.
But again this is just me talking and hoping E-sports get big in NA. But it gets hard when people let their personal opinion speak for them. if esports is gonna get big its not gonna be because of people like bigt
Every little bit helps but lets keep this thread on topic I am PM him and we are debating it there.
And it isn't going to get big with people like idra either.
See what i did there?
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This is a misunderstanding that just went awfully wrong.
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Tourney is great so far, Only question is Why are Morrow and DImaga facing each other in round one...
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On October 05 2010 13:19 IdrA wrote:Show nested quote +On October 05 2010 09:54 crawlintik wrote:
@ chill
You prob shouldn't let your personal opinion decide who gets featured or not. Your not here to play favorites to be honest, your hear to expand E-sports and to help others enjoy it as well. You let your personal opinion decide weather or not BigT is featured or not. In my opion BigT has Great stream quality(one of the best), Awesome commentary, Great game play(talks about why or why he didn't do something, and discusses his BO) this i never see with half the featured streamer, and Bigt is one of the few that will sit and talk with the viewers. Heck none of the featured streamers talk with their viewers as much as BigT does(excluding Day9).
But again this is my opinion and shouldn't lead to him being featured.
What you should look at is Does BigT bring in viewers? Which he does, and i have notice that BigT has more viewers then most of the featured streamers that you have made featured. This is about expanding E-sports not deciding who is your best friend and who you do not like personally.
But again this is just me talking and hoping E-sports get big in NA. But it gets hard when people let their personal opinion speak for them. if esports is gonna get big its not gonna be because of people like bigt
Sorry Idra, your wrong about this one. Esports may not get big directly because of me or even because of me at all. But, esports will definitely get big because of people LIKE me. You have no idea how much shit I have to put up with (or maybe you do) and still how much I'm able to accomplish. People like me, determined, motivated, and passionate about sc2, will definitely make esports bigger.
On October 05 2010 18:48 dapierow wrote:
Tourney is great so far, Only question is Why are Morrow and DImaga facing each other in round one...
Because with 16 great players from EU, you'd have to expect atleast one decent first round match
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bigt might not be your cup of tea(tee-hee) but you guys need to chill out(now that was unintentional). Okay fine he rubs you the wrong way, but so what. It doesnt mean you should put out a vendetta against him, there are people that are genuinely entertained by what he does. What is wrong with that?
I think amongst firemen who dont put out fires and soldiers who kill afghan people for fun BigT ranks as pretty fucking cool dude. So maybe you need to focus less on your personal impression of him and judge him for the job he does and the entertainment he brings to people?
I think he does fairly fucking A on that and maybe some incentive and encouragement for him would be a nice thing to do? And if he already managed to put out a 1 grand tournament while being no where as popular as Day/Husky or GLHF says something regarding his ability to indeed promote e-sports?
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On October 05 2010 19:22 BigT wrote:Show nested quote +On October 05 2010 13:19 IdrA wrote:On October 05 2010 09:54 crawlintik wrote:
@ chill
You prob shouldn't let your personal opinion decide who gets featured or not. Your not here to play favorites to be honest, your hear to expand E-sports and to help others enjoy it as well. You let your personal opinion decide weather or not BigT is featured or not. In my opion BigT has Great stream quality(one of the best), Awesome commentary, Great game play(talks about why or why he didn't do something, and discusses his BO) this i never see with half the featured streamer, and Bigt is one of the few that will sit and talk with the viewers. Heck none of the featured streamers talk with their viewers as much as BigT does(excluding Day9).
But again this is my opinion and shouldn't lead to him being featured.
What you should look at is Does BigT bring in viewers? Which he does, and i have notice that BigT has more viewers then most of the featured streamers that you have made featured. This is about expanding E-sports not deciding who is your best friend and who you do not like personally.
But again this is just me talking and hoping E-sports get big in NA. But it gets hard when people let their personal opinion speak for them. if esports is gonna get big its not gonna be because of people like bigt Sorry Idra, your wrong about this one. Esports may not get big directly because of me or even because of me at all. But, esports will definitely get big because of people LIKE me.
exactly, but people LIKE you dont actually have any talents, any defining traits. you just have to be able to say things that are wrong while watching a game of sc2 and annoying the people playing it. anyone can do that, its tl's judgement that you arent one of the more appealing people doing it, so they're not helping promote you. its perfectly reasonable.
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hah i love this thread @chill just ignore the chumps u have no reason to respond to them more then once after u said ur piece just ignore em. BTW @idra diammmmmmmmm lovin the couple posts just layin down the hammer with no restraint haha god bless TL threads :-D
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not sure how many times Chill has made an ass off himself on his stream, thrash talking players etc. How on earth does he see that as helping the community ? The sooner he is removed from the viewer list all together the better.
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Why does everyone think piggybacking onto TL and leeching viewers/fans is somehow expanding esports? Can anyone explain to me how esports grows or benefits from that? Because to me it just looks like it satisfies the megalomaniac need to be an internet celebrity by particularly untalented individuals as Idra said while doing the least work possible.
You are not an esports martyr sacrificing your blood and sweat to help foster something greater than yourself. You are just another clown looking to latch onto something that is already established.
Here's a tip: The internet does not begin or end with Teamliquid. if you want to grow esports, if you want your own fans, look elsewhere. HD and Husky built their own fanbase, and only a small part of that actually came from Teamliquid.
Whatever your true agenda is you are going about it completely wrong.
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To be honest, featured or not doesn't matter. I've asked to be featured a few times, I stopped asking/caring because ultimately if your stream is good and you provide good content, why does whether you are featured or not matter?
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On October 05 2010 20:32 Sqq wrote:
not sure how many times Chill has made an ass off himself on his stream, thrash talking players etc. How on earth does he see that as helping the community ? The sooner he is removed from the viewer list all together the better.
I obviously ment BigT here and not Chill.
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On October 05 2010 13:41 crawlintik wrote:Show nested quote +On October 05 2010 13:19 IdrA wrote:On October 05 2010 09:54 crawlintik wrote:
@ chill
You prob shouldn't let your personal opinion decide who gets featured or not. Your not here to play favorites to be honest, your hear to expand E-sports and to help others enjoy it as well. You let your personal opinion decide weather or not BigT is featured or not. In my opion BigT has Great stream quality(one of the best), Awesome commentary, Great game play(talks about why or why he didn't do something, and discusses his BO) this i never see with half the featured streamer, and Bigt is one of the few that will sit and talk with the viewers. Heck none of the featured streamers talk with their viewers as much as BigT does(excluding Day9).
But again this is my opinion and shouldn't lead to him being featured.
What you should look at is Does BigT bring in viewers? Which he does, and i have notice that BigT has more viewers then most of the featured streamers that you have made featured. This is about expanding E-sports not deciding who is your best friend and who you do not like personally.
But again this is just me talking and hoping E-sports get big in NA. But it gets hard when people let their personal opinion speak for them. if esports is gonna get big its not gonna be because of people like bigt Every little bit helps but lets keep this thread on topic I am PM him and we are debating it there. And it isn't going to get big with people like idra either.See what i did there?
Dont know under what rock you live my friend but i kinda GOT big (partly) because of him(only foreigner to stay in korea for multiple years, his rage etc ^^)
I could elaborate a lot more on this and on the topic of bigT himself, but i won't cause its just completely timeinefficient, just had to react to that.
Edit: BigTmoneeeee , just give it the fuck up dude, wont happen.. EVER
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Each new day and BigT pets a puppy and the firing squad appears.
Lather Rinse Repeat
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On October 05 2010 19:46 IdrA wrote:Show nested quote +On October 05 2010 19:22 BigT wrote:On October 05 2010 13:19 IdrA wrote:On October 05 2010 09:54 crawlintik wrote:
@ chill
You prob shouldn't let your personal opinion decide who gets featured or not. Your not here to play favorites to be honest, your hear to expand E-sports and to help others enjoy it as well. You let your personal opinion decide weather or not BigT is featured or not. In my opion BigT has Great stream quality(one of the best), Awesome commentary, Great game play(talks about why or why he didn't do something, and discusses his BO) this i never see with half the featured streamer, and Bigt is one of the few that will sit and talk with the viewers. Heck none of the featured streamers talk with their viewers as much as BigT does(excluding Day9).
But again this is my opinion and shouldn't lead to him being featured.
What you should look at is Does BigT bring in viewers? Which he does, and i have notice that BigT has more viewers then most of the featured streamers that you have made featured. This is about expanding E-sports not deciding who is your best friend and who you do not like personally.
But again this is just me talking and hoping E-sports get big in NA. But it gets hard when people let their personal opinion speak for them. if esports is gonna get big its not gonna be because of people like bigt Sorry Idra, your wrong about this one. Esports may not get big directly because of me or even because of me at all. But, esports will definitely get big because of people LIKE me. exactly, but people LIKE you dont actually have any talents, any defining traits. you just have to be able to say things that are wrong while watching a game of sc2 and annoying the people playing it. anyone can do that, its tl's judgement that you arent one of the more appealing people doing it, so they're not helping promote you. its perfectly reasonable.
On October 05 2010 22:41 floor exercise wrote:
Why does everyone think piggybacking onto TL and leeching viewers/fans is somehow expanding esports? Can anyone explain to me how esports grows or benefits from that? Because to me it just looks like it satisfies the megalomaniac need to be an internet celebrity by particularly untalented individuals as Idra said while doing the least work possible.
You are not an esports martyr sacrificing your blood and sweat to help foster something greater than yourself. You are just another clown looking to latch onto something that is already established.
Here's a tip: The internet does not begin or end with Teamliquid. if you want to grow esports, if you want your own fans, look elsewhere. HD and Husky built their own fanbase, and only a small part of that actually came from Teamliquid.
Whatever your true agenda is you are going about it completely wrong.
Just because I'm not going about it the same way, doesn't mean I'm going about it the wrong way. Every little bit will help expand esports in the US. Its going to take one step at a time.
I think determotion, and sinceritination, passion, commitment, devy are pretty defining traits
On October 06 2010 00:55 Xeris wrote:
To be honest, featured or not doesn't matter. I've asked to be featured a few times, I stopped asking/caring because ultimately if your stream is good and you provide good content, why does whether you are featured or not matter?
I agree, but whether you like it or not, getting featured increases your viewership. However, I have given up as well. I have not though about it, asked about it, or brought it up at all for months. The only reason I'm talking about it right now is because Chill decided to bring it up again.
PS I have started uploading individual match VODs. Check the OP ^^*
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On October 05 2010 19:22 BigT wrote:
Sorry Idra, your wrong about this one. Esports may not get big directly because of me or even because of me at all. But, esports will definitely get big because of people LIKE me. You have no idea how much shit I have to put up with (or maybe you do) and still how much I'm able to accomplish. People like me, determined, motivated, and passionate about sc2, will definitely make esports bigger.
Let me make something clear, Esports is not going to get big on casters who ask their viewers for money constantly while talking about how awesome they are. Every time I have tuned into your stream I have been forced to tune out or else go into a ragefest over this. If you're going to stand up here and say people like you are going to change esports well yeah... thats about as far as I'm going to go.
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BigT, while Chill is responsible for maintaining the stream list, the admin staff as a whole have decided not to feature you. Your constant self-promotion at the expense of others, your questionable behaviour in the middle of tournaments, and your begging for money are big turn offs for me.
I think we have been more than fair in allowing your events to be featured, as there was talk of just axing you and your events off the calendar entirely. If you think you deserve more than that, then show me with your actions rather than your words.
Now this thread can go one of two ways. These disrespectful posts can continue, you can fight the evil tyrants holding you down, and I can close the thread.
Or, people can PM me and discuss it civiliy, and this thread can remain open.
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Manifesto showing why he is such a beast. Lol.
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On October 06 2010 06:28 Manifesto7 wrote:
Or, people can PM me and discuss it civiliy, and this thread can remain open.
You sit there and ask people to PM you while you publicly post on the forum... Practice what you preach???
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On October 06 2010 06:35 BigT wrote:Show nested quote +On October 06 2010 06:28 Manifesto7 wrote:
Or, people can PM me and discuss it civiliy, and this thread can remain open. You sit there and ask people to PM you while you publicly post on the forum... Practice what you preach???
It's a public announcement, it's not necessarily just to you. Everyone can see how the thread has been going, and Manifesto7 is attempting to make sure that the thread stays open with real discussion about either the players or the tournament.
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is bigt calling manifesto out?
dunno if you can get any more ballsy than that...
anyway to remain on topic i cant stand BigT's casting (hold on im getting to the on topic part) but i do appreciate the fact that hes bringing a tournament of his own devising in.
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can't wait to see Huk in this tournament.
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On October 06 2010 06:40 GHOSTCLAW wrote:Show nested quote +On October 06 2010 06:35 BigT wrote:On October 06 2010 06:28 Manifesto7 wrote:
Or, people can PM me and discuss it civiliy, and this thread can remain open. You sit there and ask people to PM you while you publicly post on the forum... Practice what you preach??? It's a public announcement, it's not necessarily just to you. Everyone can see how the thread has been going, and Manifesto7 is attempting to make sure that the thread stays open with real discussion about either the players or the tournament.
On October 06 2010 06:28 Manifesto7 wrote:
BigT, while Chill is responsible for maintaining the stream list, the admin staff as a whole have decided not to feature you. Your constant self-promotion at the expense of others, your questionable behaviour in the middle of tournaments, and your begging for money are big turn offs for me.
That isn't directed at me? lol? ^^*
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On October 06 2010 06:35 BigT wrote:Show nested quote +On October 06 2010 06:28 Manifesto7 wrote:
Or, people can PM me and discuss it civiliy, and this thread can remain open. You sit there and ask people to PM you while you publicly post on the forum... Practice what you preach???
You seem to think that's hypocritical, but I'm not sure why (it isn't). My advice to you is to stop worrying about getting featured. If you enjoy what you're doing, then keep on doing it. Maybe one day you'll meet whatever expectations you need to and you'll find yourself on that list. Maybe not, who knows. Do it because you like it, and get better at it because it's what you want for yourself. While you have many fans, you've also given a few people a bad first impression on here. It's actions, not words, that will slowly erase that image and replace it with a new one that's up to you to create. Whether that image is of a professional, reliable and dedicated caster or a shady, self-righteous opportunist is completely in your hands.
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On October 05 2010 11:39 BigT wrote:
Expanding e-sports, specifically SC2, is my primary goal and it's just like a constant uphill battle trying to gain support and really expand SC2 the way I want to with all the negativity from tl for no good reason.
I don't think it's "for no good reason." I have watched you commentate twice. One time was like a month ago during a tournament where one of the players asked you to leave because of lag. Your response was something along the lines of "I'm not lagging, just shut up and play" (I don't remember the exact words used because it was so long ago, but I believe some cuss words were even thrown around). So there's one reason. The other time I've watched you commentate were the QXC vs. KiwiKaki VODS you posted in this thread where you kept fumbling over words, which does not make for good commentating. So there's two good reasons.
With that said, I do appreciate what you are trying to do for the community, but there are definitely some areas you can improve in. I think a lot of it has to do with your general attitude (i.e. "my shit don't stink"), and the fact that you refuse to acknowledge this only compiles the problems. I think this tourney will turn out to be really great and I wish you luck in the success of it.
P.S. Are we not supposed to be talking about this any more?
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On October 06 2010 06:59 BroOd wrote:Show nested quote +On October 06 2010 06:35 BigT wrote:On October 06 2010 06:28 Manifesto7 wrote:
Or, people can PM me and discuss it civiliy, and this thread can remain open. You sit there and ask people to PM you while you publicly post on the forum... Practice what you preach??? You seem to think that's hypocritical, but I'm not sure why (it isn't). My advice to you is to stop worrying about getting featured. If you enjoy what you're doing, then keep on doing it. Maybe one day you'll meet whatever expectations you need to and you'll find yourself on that list. Maybe not, who knows. Do it because you like it, and get better at it because it's what you want for yourself. While you have many fans, you've also given a few people a bad first impression on here. It's actions, not words, that will slowly erase that image and replace it with a new one that's up to you to create. Whether that image is of a professional, reliable and dedicated caster or a shady, self-righteous opportunist is completely in your hands.
Well its people like you who don't watch or follow me at all who give me a bad name. This is EXACTLY what I've been doing for the past months. I have not thought about, worried about, or tried to get featured after the first time i asked. But you guys seem to think that I'm constantly bringing it up cause you just happened to read about it in this single thread. But that is NOT TRUE, the only reason I am talking about it is because Chill brought it up and I had a problem with what he said. So although i realize you are trying to be constructive, please atleast give me the courtesy of atleast watching my stream before making such assumptions. And that goes for everyone else as well.
On October 06 2010 07:03 Devolved wrote:Show nested quote +On October 05 2010 11:39 BigT wrote:
Expanding e-sports, specifically SC2, is my primary goal and it's just like a constant uphill battle trying to gain support and really expand SC2 the way I want to with all the negativity from tl for no good reason.
I don't think it's "for no good reason." I have watched you commentate twice. One time was like a month ago during a tournament where one of the players asked you to leave because of lag. Your response was something along the lines of "I'm not lagging, just shut up and play" (I don't remember the exact words used because it was so long ago, but I believe some cuss words were even thrown around). So there's one reason. The other time I've watched you commentate were the QXC vs. KiwiKaki VODS you posted in this thread where you kept fumbling over words, which does not make for good commentating. So there's two good reasons. With that said, I do appreciate what you are trying to do for the community, but there are definitely some areas you can improve in. I think a lot of it has to do with your general attitude (i.e. "my shit don't stink"), and the fact that you refuse to acknowledge this only compiles the problems. I think this tourney will turn out to be really great and I wish you luck in the success of it. P.S. Are we not supposed to be talking about this any more?
You are completely misinformed about the situation you are trying to recollect... I have never said something like that in my life. I also try to improve on a daily basis and constantly except constructive criticism. :O
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i dont want to see this thread get closed i will agree with you BigT on all your points, But now lets get back to the tournament.
So does a yellow team win? I know they do with the 20% buff in all for being yellow.
(BTW someone really need to create a sarcastic font.)
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On October 06 2010 07:16 crawlintik wrote:
i dont want to see this thread get closed i will agree with you BigT on all your points, But now lets get back to the tournament.
So does a yellow team win? I know they do with the 20% buff in all for being yellow.
(BTW someone really need to create a sarcastic font.)
Sorry man your right, but sometimes everyone calling me out gets to be too much, some of the things people say are just too much to just ignore sometimes :/
And yes lol. Yellow does instantly give you a 20% armor and attack increase so expect many more victories for yellow in the future.
AND I HAVE STARTED UPLOADING INDIVIDUAL MATCH VODS... YOUR WELCOME!!
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Thread closed. People should have heeded the warning.
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