EPTgandalfs post was dead on. I don't understand why there are so many people trying so hard to think of reasons to invalidate my plan to strengthen the public servers gaming experience. Why would you fight against that? If it doesn't affect you then what's the point in shooting this idea down? If you're not interested in this idea, why bother responding? My goal is to make gaming more fun, why is that not worthy of support?
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rich-
United States133 Posts
gandalfs post was dead on. I don't understand why there are so many people trying so hard to think of reasons to invalidate my plan to strengthen the public servers gaming experience. Why would you fight against that? If it doesn't affect you then what's the point in shooting this idea down? If you're not interested in this idea, why bother responding? My goal is to make gaming more fun, why is that not worthy of support? | ||
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Schnake
Germany2819 Posts
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RebirthOfLeGenD
USA5860 Posts
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RebirthOfLeGenD
USA5860 Posts
On August 31 2010 03:03 Schnake wrote: I think it is because it affects only a little group of people. But good luck with your quest! It affects anyone who ever gets nostalgic and wants to play an older game like BW or D2. When you have a small number of people on 4 servers you could just have a large number of people on one server. It benefits the gamers a lot more especially since bnet isn't as popular anymore that dividing over servers isn't all that necessary. But it could however provide a better environment for the gamers which blizzard should care about even if it is an older game. | ||
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GunSlinger
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Ocular
Canada141 Posts
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LegendaryZ
United States1583 Posts
On August 31 2010 02:51 rich- wrote: All of you who speak of iccup, stop wasting your time, bgh games (our community) will never relocate to iccup unless public servers were shut down. This is very unlikely. Stop wasting your breath about iccup. gandalfs post was dead on. I don't understand why there are so many people trying so hard to think of reasons to invalidate my plan to strengthen the public servers gaming experience. Why would you fight against that? If it doesn't affect you then what's the point in shooting this idea down? If you're not interested in this idea, why bother responding? My goal is to make gaming more fun, why is that not worthy of support? When you post something on an online forum, it's natural that you open yourself up to criticism, both positive and negative. This is a cause you obviously believe in, but many others simply don't agree with you. You're posting here crying about the community being fragmented across servers, but at the same time you're saying that your community will never relocate to ICCup or sign onto the same B.Net gateway. If community that's being adversely affected by this is unwilling to band together and come to some sort of consensus in the face of several perfectly viable options, then most of them probably don't see it as enough of an issue to take 2 seconds of their time to manually select a specific gateway when logging on. If that's the case, then why on earth would you expect Blizzard to go out of their way to solve an issue that's not widely perceived as a real problem in the first place? Battle.net and Brood War are fine as they are in my view. Consolidating the servers is really unnecessary because if you are unsatisfied with the population of the server you're on, you can freely switch to a more popular one with the click of a button (USWest/Asia). I think you're making a big issue out of nothing, to be honest. If it's really that much of a problem for your community, maybe you could all take 2 seconds of your day (much shorter than spamming Blizzard) to all click on USWest or something. If people aren't willing to even do that, then maybe it's not as big of an issue as you perceive it to be. | ||
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ted.
United States81 Posts
On August 31 2010 04:24 GunSlinger wrote: Brood War doesn't need saving; nor would this be the way to do it. If this actually happens you are going to have so many lag issues. Why should Koreans and Europeans who still want to play 1v1 and UMS have to deal with that? Because your community can't simply log onto the same server as each other? Sorry, but that is so counter-productive. By saving we mean preserving a solid strong player base. If this is not the way to do it, could you please enlighten us on what we should be doing? The idea was not to inclue Asia as that is already a "super" server. Europeans play on East ALL the time. The majority of my f l are people from all throughout Europe who play east and experience no lag. If there is ever a lag issue its client sided. Sorry, but this is not counter-productive at all. You posting bullshit as if it is all fact is counter-productive. | ||
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GunSlinger
614 Posts
On August 31 2010 04:59 LegendaryZ wrote: When you post something on an online forum, it's natural that you open yourself up to criticism, both positive and negative. This is a cause you obviously believe in, but many others simply don't agree with you. You're posting here crying about the community being fragmented across servers, but at the same time you're saying that your community will never relocate to ICCup or sign onto the same B.Net gateway. If community that's being adversely affected by this is unwilling to band together and come to some sort of consensus in the face of several perfectly viable options, then most of them probably don't see it as enough of an issue to take 2 seconds of their time to manually select a specific gateway when logging on. If that's the case, then why on earth would you expect Blizzard to go out of their way to solve an issue that's not widely perceived as a real problem in the first place? Battle.net and Brood War are fine as they are in my view. Consolidating the servers is really unnecessary because if you are unsatisfied with the population of the server you're on, you can freely switch to a more popular one with the click of a button (USWest/Asia). I think you're making a big issue out of nothing, to be honest. If it's really that much of a problem for your community, maybe you could all take 2 seconds of your day (much shorter than spamming Blizzard) to all click on USWest or something. If people aren't willing to even do that, then maybe it's not as big of an issue as you perceive it to be. I really wanted to type something to this effect out but I'm too lazy. This is the real issue here; your community. Not Blizzard's problem. Yours. | ||
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ted.
United States81 Posts
On August 31 2010 04:59 LegendaryZ wrote: When you post something on an online forum, it's natural that you open yourself up to criticism, both positive and negative. This is a cause you obviously believe in, but many others simply don't agree with you. You're posting here crying about the community being fragmented across servers, but at the same time you're saying that your community will never relocate to ICCup or sign onto the same B.Net gateway. If community that's being adversely affected by this is unwilling to band together and come to some sort of consensus in the face of several perfectly viable options, then most of them probably don't see it as enough of an issue to take 2 seconds of their time to manually select a specific gateway when logging on. If that's the case, then why on earth would you expect Blizzard to go out of their way to solve an issue that's not widely perceived as a real problem in the first place? Battle.net and Brood War are fine as they are in my view. Consolidating the servers is really unnecessary because if you are unsatisfied with the population of the server you're on, you can freely switch to a more popular one with the click of a button (USWest/Asia). I think you're making a big issue out of nothing, to be honest. If it's really that much of a problem for your community, maybe you could all take 2 seconds of your day (much shorter than spamming Blizzard) to all click on USWest or something. If people aren't willing to even do that, then maybe it's not as big of an issue as you perceive it to be. The problem here is that many people who play BGH and UMS etc, don't go to our website, let alone even know about it. Honestly, read Gandalf's post maybe 1 or 2 pages back, he explains everything perfectly, this way you (and others) won't have to keep repeating yourselves. | ||
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Diamond
United States10796 Posts
Why would Blizz do this when they have gone out of their way to not let it happen with SC2. Stop being stubborn and lazy. | ||
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ted.
United States81 Posts
On August 31 2010 05:38 iCCup.Diamond wrote: Listen I'm going to try and be as calm and simple as possible. Why would Blizz do this when they have gone out of their way to not let it happen with SC2. Stop being stubborn and lazy. what? By "it" do you mean server consolidation? If so your an idiot for comparing the two games because one clearly needs multiple servers as it is a brand new Blizzard game, and the other is 12 years old and is dwindling. Who should stop being stubborn and lazy? Those of us who have been relentlessly writing articles and posts on multiple websites asking for help, emailing blizzard asking for help, spamming bots on every english speaking server asking for help? Can you explain how any of that is stubborn or lazy? Or are you talking to the people who are unaware of what we are trying to do? | ||
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rich-
United States133 Posts
No one has been able to provide a legitimate reason why this is a bad idea, they just keep repeating the same thing, either "it won't work therefore don't try", or "goto iccup". Both don't serve to better the current state of public servers. And neither are valid points to why this is not worth trying to purpose to blizzard, what harm can come? None that anyone has brought to the table thus far. If such pessimistic view points were taken on any new idea little innovation would result. Just because things work now doesn't mean they can't work better. | ||
2Pacalypse-
Croatia9498 Posts
Why reply here just for the sake of replying? If it doesn't concern you, ignore it... | ||
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rich-
United States133 Posts
On August 31 2010 04:24 GunSlinger wrote: Brood War doesn't need saving; nor would this be the way to do it. If this actually happens you are going to have so many lag issues. Why should Koreans and Europeans who still want to play 1v1 and UMS have to deal with that? Because your community can't simply log onto the same server as each other? Sorry, but that is so counter-productive. On what grounds does Brood war not need saving? Everyone that I've talked to on public servers think my idea is a good idea. People still play it, and it's capable of being so much more. You're just pessimistic, and it's not for any reason other than your attempt to contradict me. Battle.net servers have absolutely NOTHING to do with lag. Once the game starts the connection goes from the client-server model to P2P, therefore there servers aren't the source of any lag and never could be. Lag occurs client side only. Lag issues only arise when you're playing with a lagger. Lets take TL's beloved iccup as an example. Lag is a minor issue, and is the result of poor client connection speeds or internet bottle necks. And it's not too much different than playing on a server that's localized to 1 region. Internet speeds have increased drastically in the last 12 years and it's completely possible for someone in north america to play with someone in korea. Also you obviously didn't read my plan. The plan is to combine east, west and europe. Not asia. You should refrain from speaking when you lack knowledge of what you speak of, it makes you look stupid. | ||
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rich-
United States133 Posts
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Diamond
United States10796 Posts
On August 31 2010 07:43 rich- wrote: On what grounds does Brood war not need saving? Everyone that I've talked to on public servers think my idea is a good idea. People still play it, and it's capable of being so much more. You're just pessimistic, and it's not for any reason other than your attempt to contradict me. Battle.net servers have absolutely NOTHING to do with lag. Once the game starts the connection goes from the client-server model to P2P, therefore there servers aren't the source of any lag and never could be. Lag occurs client side only. Lag issues only arise when you're playing with a lagger. Lets take TL's beloved iccup as an example. Lag is a minor issue, and is the result of poor client connection speeds or internet bottle necks. And it's not too much different than playing on a server that's localized to 1 region. Internet speeds have increased drastically in the last 12 years and it's completely possible for someone in north america to play with someone in korea. Also you obviously didn't read my plan. The plan is to combine east, west and europe. Not asia. You should refrain from speaking when you lack knowledge of what you speak of, it makes you look stupid. Really? Care to explain why iCCup has about half the lag as b.net than????????? Seriously guys I thought it was apparent that Blizz is trying to kill BW, not extend it's life.... | ||
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attackfighter
Canada308 Posts
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LegendaryZ
United States1583 Posts
You REALLY don't see why some people might find what you're promoting to be somewhat objectionable? | ||
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mutantmagnet
United States3789 Posts
In fact, it would probably benefit them more if it completely died so they no longer had to maintain servers for a game that probably doesn't bring them a decent profit margin anymore. As small as Starcraft/Broodwar is now in terms of sales Blizzard a year ago mentioned sales for the game were very strong from whatever they originally expected for a game this old and popular. Besides the OPs proprosal actually reduces costs. If you played MMOs you would know this is why server consolidations happen. | ||
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