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On July 08 2010 09:51 battlemage wrote:Show nested quote +On July 08 2010 09:46 Jollyburner wrote:On July 08 2010 09:45 battlemage wrote:
interesting unit changes for zerg in this patch. anyone think they will make any other unit changes before the release? seems like terran mech has an edge vs toss and zerg in the late game assuming both players are fairly equal in skill and resources. Also marauders are pretty strong early game vs anything toss has and helions are pretty strong vs zerg. thoughts?
anyone know how to get into matches versus the pros? perhaps ladder games are the best bet?
blizzard should just let us play the beta, we all know there will be numerous patches anyways after release so they shouldn't worry. let us have our cake to build more buzz!
imo toss is the strongest early/earlymid at sub-pro level. get matches vs pros by crushing diamond league, i read somewhere there will be a proleague on bnet above diamond early in the beta. im assuming thats still valid. invite-only pro division i believe it was called agreed on sub-pro. i've just been watching a ton of pro matches and terran seems to have a slight edge; even white-ra had a losing percentage vs T and even got creamed a few times. thanks for the tip on finding pros. last phase i was in a diamond league but only came across 3 pros out of a ton of matches.
yea its just so easy to make a nice viable unit comp as P, then a-move ur ball into the enemy while shield/fielding w/sentries and focusing w/whatever. before ghosts come out i think its a clear edge for toss. zerg is just screwed lol... imo.
edit: ignoring obvious tank imba, altho immos do counter well especially w/o highground for T
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On July 08 2010 09:45 battlemage wrote:
interesting unit changes for zerg in this patch. anyone think they will make any other unit changes before the release? seems like terran mech has an edge vs toss and zerg in the late game assuming both players are fairly equal in skill and resources. Also marauders are pretty strong early game vs anything toss has and helions are pretty strong vs zerg. thoughts?
anyone know how to get into matches versus the pros? perhaps ladder games are the best bet?
blizzard should just let us play the beta, we all know there will be numerous patches anyways after release so they shouldn't worry. let us have our cake to build more buzz!
Idk IMO marauders are only really strong if you try straight stalkers or straight zealots against them
but a nice mix of zealots(they have to kite them) stalkers (damage) and sentrys for shield make dealing with them not nearly as difficult as i thought at first
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On July 08 2010 09:53 arb wrote:Show nested quote +On July 08 2010 09:45 battlemage wrote:
interesting unit changes for zerg in this patch. anyone think they will make any other unit changes before the release? seems like terran mech has an edge vs toss and zerg in the late game assuming both players are fairly equal in skill and resources. Also marauders are pretty strong early game vs anything toss has and helions are pretty strong vs zerg. thoughts?
anyone know how to get into matches versus the pros? perhaps ladder games are the best bet?
blizzard should just let us play the beta, we all know there will be numerous patches anyways after release so they shouldn't worry. let us have our cake to build more buzz!
Idk IMO marauders are only really strong if you try straight stalkers or straight zealots against them but a nice mix of zealots(they have to kite them) stalkers (damage) and sentrys for shield make dealing with them not nearly as difficult as i thought at first
Yep, 8 stalkers vs 8 marauders the marauders win but 4 stalkers/2lots/2sentry the toss mix wins.
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what about 2 marauders 8 marines and a ghost?!
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Patch for US server can be downloaded now
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On July 08 2010 09:55 ConQueR wrote:
Patch for US server can be downloaded now
hey thanks keep us posted man
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On July 08 2010 09:55 ConQueR wrote:
Patch for US server can be downloaded now
die in a fire
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On July 08 2010 09:54 ionlyplayPROtoss wrote:Show nested quote +On July 08 2010 09:53 arb wrote:On July 08 2010 09:45 battlemage wrote:
interesting unit changes for zerg in this patch. anyone think they will make any other unit changes before the release? seems like terran mech has an edge vs toss and zerg in the late game assuming both players are fairly equal in skill and resources. Also marauders are pretty strong early game vs anything toss has and helions are pretty strong vs zerg. thoughts?
anyone know how to get into matches versus the pros? perhaps ladder games are the best bet?
blizzard should just let us play the beta, we all know there will be numerous patches anyways after release so they shouldn't worry. let us have our cake to build more buzz!
Idk IMO marauders are only really strong if you try straight stalkers or straight zealots against them but a nice mix of zealots(they have to kite them) stalkers (damage) and sentrys for shield make dealing with them not nearly as difficult as i thought at first Yep, 8 stalkers vs 8 marauders the marauders win but 4 stalkers/2lots/2sentry the toss mix wins.
there u go, that says it perfectly. unit comp is ur friend as toss. its alot tougher w/ terran imo as everything hard-counters and nothing is just all around good. ie, rines rauders and tanks is probly the same as rauders n tanks, as rines hellions n tanks, etc. basically you have tanks and you have flak for them. your flak is only good if it does some damage while not dying.
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On July 08 2010 09:55 ConQueR wrote:
Patch for US server can be downloaded now
I believe you quoted me from page 40.
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On July 08 2010 09:55 ConQueR wrote:
Patch for US server can be downloaded now
Awesome, thanks. I'm downloading it right now 
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On July 08 2010 09:59 Blind wrote:Show nested quote +On July 08 2010 09:55 ConQueR wrote:
Patch for US server can be downloaded now Awesome, thanks. I'm downloading it right now
i see anger has taken a backseat to complacency and sarcasm.
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On July 08 2010 09:28 Blizzard_Nethaera wrote:
Sorry for the delay. We expect phase 2 of the Starcraft 2 Beta to begin at 12 PST. Our deployment team is currently raiding ICC 25-man hard modes. Servers will be up as soon as we down Lich King.
What percent is he at?
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On July 08 2010 10:00 Jollyburner wrote:Show nested quote +On July 08 2010 09:59 Blind wrote:On July 08 2010 09:55 ConQueR wrote:
Patch for US server can be downloaded now Awesome, thanks. I'm downloading it right now i see anger has taken a backseat to complacency and sarcasm.
YES WHAT IS THIS.
THERE SHOULD BE MORE ANGER ON THESE FORUMS.
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When I pressed login i definitely just waited an extra 1 and a half seconds or so shits about to go down i can FEEL IT
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On July 08 2010 10:02 sickoota wrote:
When I pressed login i definitely just waited an extra 1 and a half seconds or so shits about to go down i can FEEL IT
sick sick sick scik yess gogogo
ur all gona get pwnt! beta 2 rankz are teh most important rankz imo. ima immortalize mine w/tattoo. hopefully it doesnt say silver.
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same sh.t diferent day .... no beta ....
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im really freaking out!! I NEED BETA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
KEKEKEKEKEKEKEKEKEKKE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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On July 08 2010 09:54 ionlyplayPROtoss wrote:Show nested quote +On July 08 2010 09:53 arb wrote:On July 08 2010 09:45 battlemage wrote:
interesting unit changes for zerg in this patch. anyone think they will make any other unit changes before the release? seems like terran mech has an edge vs toss and zerg in the late game assuming both players are fairly equal in skill and resources. Also marauders are pretty strong early game vs anything toss has and helions are pretty strong vs zerg. thoughts?
anyone know how to get into matches versus the pros? perhaps ladder games are the best bet?
blizzard should just let us play the beta, we all know there will be numerous patches anyways after release so they shouldn't worry. let us have our cake to build more buzz!
Idk IMO marauders are only really strong if you try straight stalkers or straight zealots against them but a nice mix of zealots(they have to kite them) stalkers (damage) and sentrys for shield make dealing with them not nearly as difficult as i thought at first Yep, 8 stalkers vs 8 marauders the marauders win but 4 stalkers/2lots/2sentry the toss mix wins.
the concuss shells are just super strong and so cheap/early to get out. i am able to kite any stalks/lots. sentries which are suppose to be the counter early to marauders just die so easily, super low shield/hp plus they are 50/100 each not to mention the expense of stalks which only give you 160 combined hp vs marauders at 125 hp for so much less cost and build time. in ur scenario i would have at least 3-4 marines because based on the min/gas your 4/2/2 requires. as for zerg you basically need baneling bust cuz mutas get owned by T's marines, turrets and thors plus roaches/hydras die easily. Ultras you need to be super good at flanking such artosis. of course ghosts are just ludicrous vs P, i think EMP should cost something. seems like T has a slightly stronger answer in most situations plus in most games T has many more diverse builds. you can go bio ball or banshee harass or mech or maraud/viking or helion harass or even lift off for fast gold.
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It's probably going to be 12am PST as I previously stated - go get some sleep so you can win your placement matches (:
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On July 08 2010 10:02 Noak3 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 08 2010 10:00 Jollyburner wrote:On July 08 2010 09:59 Blind wrote:On July 08 2010 09:55 ConQueR wrote:
Patch for US server can be downloaded now Awesome, thanks. I'm downloading it right now i see anger has taken a backseat to complacency and sarcasm. YES WHAT IS THIS. THERE SHOULD BE MORE ANGER ON THESE FORUMS.
AGREED
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