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Aelfric
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Turkey1496 Posts
July 07 2010 08:32 GMT
#1621
Seems like Blizzard guys don't want to hire new employees as moderators and such. Because you could always punish trollers or spammers to write posts i don't know something like 2 weeks? Even if you don't ban them it would work well. They should look at here and figure out how things work...
Tomorrow never comes until its too late...
WIPAKensu
Profile Joined June 2010
United States17 Posts
July 07 2010 08:32 GMT
#1622
Why don't blizzard fix problems its customer mentioned instead of creating new ones?
The freedom to choose from the given choices is not freedom!
Tanstaafl
Profile Joined April 2010
United Kingdom123 Posts
July 07 2010 08:32 GMT
#1623
On July 07 2010 15:09 yawn wrote:
Show nested quote +

The official forums have always been a great place to discuss the latest info on our games, offer ideas and suggestions, and share experiences with other players


i never found this to be true in any past blizzard game. does any actually use the official forums for anything other than trash-talk, shoutouts and hairbrained balance suggestions anyways?


Bug reports and technical support.

Blizzard can say all they want that posting on forums is optional and not really a part of the game... but these are two respects in which the forums are their main channel for communication. Part of the value of the forums is that you can see what's up with other people's machines, settings, and specs and see if they are encountering the same issues as you, even if the blues haven't shown up yet. If you've ever seen the Mac forums, bug reports and technical support are also often a direct line to the people who actually work on the technical side, without having to slog through the GM ticket system (in WoW) or whatever equivalent there may be in the final build of SC2.

I normally don't put a lot of stock in Internet anonymity. My real name is all over the web by choice (and even though I'm posting on TL under a handle, I don't really mind if people here know who I am). I joined Facebook several years ago because the established norm of people using their real names added a touch of class to the place, which was then college-exclusive and built on closed networks, but that was before Facebook went insane. But it doesn't take a genius to figure out that requiring people's real names to show up when they're posting things like system specs is a bad idea, especially when there's no clear bug-reporting alternative that remains anonymous.

And that's not even getting into how that plays into the biggest problem that many have already pointed out - that spammers are going to data-mine names like mad.

I seriously don't mind if the real-name requirement remains in place for virtually everything else - people will drift to other sites anyway, and you will hear less mindless complaining about balance. Deterring people from posting - in effect, torching the place - may very well be what the Blizzard forums need. But any developer with a clue should never, ever, ever deter bug reports.
Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
July 07 2010 08:36 GMT
#1624
Should just outsource the SC2 forums to TL - we'd handle them np
Administrator~ Spirit will set you free ~
ghosthunter
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States414 Posts
July 07 2010 08:36 GMT
#1625
On July 07 2010 17:32 Aelfric wrote:
Seems like Blizzard guys don't want to hire new employees as moderators and such. Because you could always punish trollers or spammers to write posts i don't know something like 2 weeks? Even if you don't ban them it would work well. They should look at here and figure out how things work...


Because this has worked so well on the blizzard forums up to this point. No amount of moderation is enough to handle a community of that size, without exception. In the end though, I guess they should be thankful that only a small majority of their userbase uses the forums. Perhaps more will start using it as the trolls get weeded out more heavily.
MrWinkles
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States200 Posts
July 07 2010 08:37 GMT
#1626
@ Plexa: That's where people will soon be coming, let's get ready
What does the knight do?
TobZero
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Germany493 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-07 08:45:47
July 07 2010 08:39 GMT
#1627
Overall i have no real problem with my realname beeing displayed but this only applies to the fact that this would reduce troll and flame wars.

The biggest concern i have (which sadly outweighs every good aspect) forcing me to not post on blizz forums from now on is Cybercriminals.
Dealing with those is my daily buissines at work and i cant imagine that blizzard had a talk with their security experts. they would have yelled at them and beat them up so hard.

A full forum with real names which are in some way connected with a battle.net account running possibly multiple games (i.e running WoW subs) would be a feast for scammers.
Im 100% sure that A LOT of battle.net account owner have:
1. email in the format "firstname.surname@...."
2. some fucking stupid password like only their firstname
3. no clue about how dangerous this is

and thats only talking about scaming battle.net accounts (which already is a worthy buissnes).
next step when there is a realname, a bnet account with contact information and email address will be identity theft which hits far harder than only an striped WoW account.
purchases in your name? useing your id for creditcard abuse? posting links to scam/maleware sites to your friend through linked facebook account?
whatever it is .. you name it and its already out there.

ofc im not saying that through real name on forums blizzard will invent those crimes
but they are definatly "helping" the criminals doing their dirty work a lot easier while they put forum poster at an higher risk which many wont even notice as they have no clue....

tl;dr
idea is great, less troll/flame/spam
bad idea when concidering what cybercrime can do with just a real name

Zira
-= we are the swarm =-
Turbo.Tactics
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany675 Posts
July 07 2010 08:42 GMT
#1628
On July 07 2010 17:36 Plexa wrote:
Should just outsource the SC2 forums to TL - we'd handle them np


YES! That's exactly what i was talking about! I mean have you seen the mess the Blizzforums are in? No comparison to TL and it's kittens...
Zerg - because Browders sons hate 'em
Nayl
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada413 Posts
July 07 2010 08:42 GMT
#1629
This is really spinning out of control; I suspect it will take a while before the majority of the community is really able to calm down and look at this rationally,

At least TL has been lot more reasonable about this than WoW forum where all hells are breaking loose and people are posting links to ridiculous articles of people getting killed for playing video games.
MasterFischer
Profile Joined August 2009
Denmark836 Posts
July 07 2010 08:45 GMT
#1630
So...

Alot of forum users don't want their real name on the internetz... now how could that be?

BECAUSE, it drastically reduces the way in which you can troll and act like a fucking retard, because it will have consequences. Just like in real life, you might get bitchslapped across the mouth for saying and doing stupid shit, the internet needs a form of penalty. Ever since forums got popular there has been cesspools of flaming, trolling and generally non-constructive debates and comments.... Perhaps this move will halt some of this and actually improve constructive and thoughtful ideas and debates, because people won't be so tempted to post bullshit when people know who you are..

DOWN WITH INTERNET Anonymity !

If you're too much of a pussy to take responsibility for what you say and what you do, then don't use the internet or say or do ANYTHING... prepare to face zeh consequences
WHO is this who speaks to me as though I needed his advice?
Tsagadai
Profile Joined June 2010
Korea (South)3 Posts
July 07 2010 08:46 GMT
#1631
I think it is a good idea. It is amazingly easy to find out someone's real name from their online presence at the moment. To quote Arnie, "What are you afraid of?". If someone is serious they can find out who you are, most sites hand over details for anything that looks like a police warrant or infringement notice. You can't hide at the moment, all this does is make it obvious who you are.

If you are worried about future employers reading your forum posts (which, frankly, you should be), don't post stupid things. If you aren't doing anything wrong you have nothing to worry about.

My advice is polish your spelling and grammar because your boss is watching.
sotmh
Profile Joined May 2010
United States41 Posts
July 07 2010 08:46 GMT
#1632
I don't know if this has been mentioned (probably given how technically savvy this community is), but won't having the real names of users make it trivial for hackers to get blizzard authenticators removed from compromised accounts?
TobZero
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Germany493 Posts
July 07 2010 08:46 GMT
#1633
@masterfischer

read my post (3 above yours)
than think about your statement again....
-= we are the swarm =-
Hyde
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Australia14568 Posts
July 07 2010 08:47 GMT
#1634
On July 07 2010 17:36 Plexa wrote:
Should just outsource the SC2 forums to TL - we'd handle them np

Is that why everyone was promoted to red status recently? Because I'm fairly sure when SC2 hits the shelves, hordes of people will find their way here.
Because when you left, Brood War was all spotlights and titans. Now, with the death of the big leagues, Brood War has moved to the basements and carparks. Now, Brood War is unlicensed brawls, lost teeth, and bloody fights for fistfulls of money - SirJolt
atdsutm
Profile Joined July 2009
Philippines23 Posts
July 07 2010 08:48 GMT
#1635
trolls could just fake their names in a proxy email account, problem solved!!!!!
Cyba
Profile Joined June 2010
Romania221 Posts
July 07 2010 08:53 GMT
#1636
Let's be fair it takes a hell of alot of effort to piss somebody enough to give you any trouble irl for something you said on some random forum.

Only real thing to be worried about is random stalkers and such, say a girl is playing wow, people know she's a girl from ingame. If she makes a post on the blizz forum wanting to buy something or whatever and happens to also have her char selected on display what's gona happen and how annoying is that going to be ?

As for this beeing cheaper or some kind of lawsuit avoidance move, i just can't believe that since i'm sure untill people would get used to something like this they will have alot of enforcing to do.

IMO the only real problem with this entire concept is the fact that a person that isn't even a poster, just some random dude surfing, or a bot for that matter can pick names off their forum then spam you into submission with retarded insert your name adress and battlenet account here for a free pet mails.

The quality of threads and posts on blizz forums is horibble as it is atm, they're just trying to get some semblance of civil conduct with this move. If blizz forums were any good atm we wouldn't all be posting on fan sites.
I'm not evil, I'm just good lookin
mofoo
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Sweden96 Posts
July 07 2010 08:55 GMT
#1637
Since I wasn't able to vote in the poll I'd just like to say I love the idea to post with real name. As a moderator on other forums I dislike if a user writes something that he/she would not say IRL.

[also, several of us have facebook. For me, that ended any hopes of personal integrity on the Internet]
SC2 will change my life!
MasterFischer
Profile Joined August 2009
Denmark836 Posts
July 07 2010 08:57 GMT
#1638
On July 07 2010 17:46 Azro wrote:
@masterfischer

read my post (3 above yours)
than think about your statement again....


But how big of a problem is cybercrime really in terms in relation to starcraft 2 and battle.net?

Sure I ackknowledge that here are SOME issues, but don't you think Blizzard will find a way to counter these problems?

surely they will, you make it sound easy, when in fact it's only a minority of people getting scammed. It does not, however, decrease the seriousness of the problem for those infected, but remember that it's nigh impossible to defend against EVERY phising and scammer attack.
WHO is this who speaks to me as though I needed his advice?
cucumber
Profile Joined June 2010
United States116 Posts
July 07 2010 08:58 GMT
#1639
Here is a good comment on this issue.
Cyba
Profile Joined June 2010
Romania221 Posts
July 07 2010 08:59 GMT
#1640

As a moderator on other forums I dislike if a user writes something that he/she would not say IRL.


That's a great impediment in keeping a decent forum. I find it odd that most people don't feel anoyed by those kinds of posts at all.
I'm not evil, I'm just good lookin
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