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Kennigit *
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada19447 Posts
July 07 2010 07:07 GMT
#1581
On July 07 2010 15:55 Sylvr wrote:
Very relevant:


hahaha amazing
EleanorRIgby
Profile Joined March 2008
Canada3923 Posts
July 07 2010 07:10 GMT
#1582
probably the best or second best hitler vid
savior did nothing wrong
SequorNubilum
Profile Joined July 2010
United States13 Posts
July 07 2010 07:12 GMT
#1583
Wow. I look at the poles and just was astonished at the number of people who say yes (not trying to offend your opinion).

I think this is a terrible ID. If someone really wanted to come after you they have the potential to. This is made easier for people with less common names, so people with common names think they are safe right? If someone was really committed to coming after you, they would. All it takes is an IP address and they have a reasonable area to search for you, and with the forums have your real name, they can narrow it down even further. Don't believe me? Go to cmyip.com. Type it into the google search bar. It will most likely show a location that is near you. They can then google your full name and the area which they found you in. The result could be 100 but that is a lot less than several thousand isn't it. This is all hypothetical of course but it actually happened on a video game recently. Not sure if someone posted this or not but here it is http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/france/7771505/Video-game-fanatic-hunts-down-and-stabs-rival-player-who-killed-character-online.html.

Back on topic. This is ridiculous by Blizzard. Don't know what they are trying to do but man, this really gets me.
Zerksys
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States569 Posts
July 07 2010 07:13 GMT
#1584
On July 07 2010 02:52 Tray wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2010 02:45 keV. wrote:
On July 07 2010 02:40 Tray wrote:
On July 07 2010 02:35 keV. wrote:
On July 07 2010 02:33 Tray wrote:
On July 07 2010 02:26 keV. wrote:
On July 07 2010 02:23 sikyon wrote:
Yea those "simple" solutions will probably work. Should YOUR CONSUMERS have to deal with it? No. Plain and simple.


I was unaware that the forums were an integral part of my Starcraft II purchase.

Personally I am tired of anonimity giving people on the internet the capability to behave like jerks. Besides, a name is not enough information to track someone down. And if you don't like it, don't sign up for the official forums.


It's not an integral part, that doesn't add anything to your argument though.

A name is plenty to track someone down. It's happened many times. Get name, facebook, use deductive reasoning. If I have to explain any farther down the line then that, then you are just not worth talking to.

No one has been able to tell me why just having one name per CD-key is not enough of a deterrent. Please do.



A better question is why do you think it's enough to have 1 CD key per name? It certainly didn't do crap to prevent the trolling/spamming on the beta board, why do you think it would prevent anything in retail? It wouldn't. With real names, do to the conerns brought up here, people will think twice about what they post with their real name attached to it.

And the people who say they will just come up with a phony name will be in for a rude awakening when they're very quickly banned from the forums because they stick out and then when their account is hacked cannot even retrieve it because the name on it doesn't match their real name. People keep saying they'll do this, but they really won't. It's an empty threat. Most people will attach their real name to their account and just post much less often.


Plenty of people have funny sounding REAL names. How is Blizzard going to Sherlock Holmes their way through that one? If this change goes through as described, I will be using a fake name. And that is coming from someone who has never trolled in their life and by Kev. My name is Kevin. It was only an empty threat when the situation wasn't real.


Pretty simple. Some people will have real sounding names. They'll be allowed to post under those real sounding names until they get caught trolling, at which point they'll be banned. The problem with the point you're trying to raise is that there is the assumption that someone will make a fake name in order to troll, because honestly, there isn't much reason other than that to use your real name. Since the forums will have much less trolling, those trolls will stick out even more than they do now.

People who use fake names and act honestly and appropriately will likely fall under the radar. Either way Blizzard's objective will have succeeded.


There isn't much reason to make an account to troll at all because what you say is tied to your CD key. If they will be allowed to post until they got caught trolling, how is that any different then how things are now? At least in the current implementation I am not forced to give out my real name.

No one has been able to convince me that the result of the battle.net forums would be any different if you were using your real name tied to your CD key, or your alias tied to your CD key. Either way, when you get caught trolling you are banned. So, again, tell me how is it any different.


As I said, it's simple. People are less likely to post ridiculous things if it is linked to their real name. Discussion over. If that doesn't convince you, nothing will and your mind is already made up. Either way, that is what will happen once this goes live, and it will. Less people will post retarded shiat. You're either willfully ignorant, or you're one of the trolls who's afraid he won't be able to spam the boards with his ignorance of the game during lunchtime. Either way I'm done with you and I'm glad you're losing what you believe to be some inherent right. It's a private forum by a private company. If you don't like it, don't post.



I really think that you're the ignorant one. Sure people will be less inclined to post trolly things online, but at what cost. Blizzard is already giving out your email, first, and last name. Why do you not see that this is a huge security issue? Not all of us are 13 years old with nothing to loose by giving out information other than perhaps a hacked email. No discussion is not over.
What's that probe doing there? It's a scout. You mean one of those flying planes? No....
peffi
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany44 Posts
July 07 2010 07:14 GMT
#1585
gametime, you should also delete your name in the upper right corner.

what i wanted to ask you, where did you find this?
pheus
Profile Joined February 2010
Australia161 Posts
July 07 2010 07:16 GMT
#1586
On July 07 2010 15:55 Sylvr wrote:
Very relevant:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qiauaGbxipA


lol obviously fake...
+ Show Spoiler +
there aren't that many white guys at A level on iccup
StaR_Robo
Profile Joined May 2010
Australia229 Posts
July 07 2010 07:19 GMT
#1587
On July 07 2010 15:04 JinMaikeul wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2010 15:01 illu wrote:
I sort of have a question. When they ask me to enter my name, can I enter anything I want or they actually have some sort of mechanisms to prove I am the person I say I am?


If it's anything that has a billing system, you will have to use your real name (ie. World of Warcraft). In the case of Starcraft 2, I imagine there's nothing to prove your identity, however, as was said earlier in the thread, should you ever need some sort of assistance from Blizzard such as you account getting hacked, you will need to prove your identity with some sort of photo ID or something before they will help you. So if you don't use your real name, you do so at your own risk because if you lose your account, you lose it for good. And since CD-Keys are now tied specifically to accounts, that also means you will need to go out and buy a new copy of the game to play it again.


Just because it is associated with a billing system doesn't mean you have to have a real name. B.Net has quite happily accepted credit card details with a name that doesn't match the name of the account holder for a WoW subscription in the past and in WoW there are options to pay by time card that mean you don't even have to use a credit card (although you did have to enter one when first establishing your account). The real problem comes, as has already been pointed out, if your account gets compromised and you need to prove your identity to get it back.
Working to spread StarCraft II through http://rts-sanctuary.com - replays, stats, streams and more ...
ghosthunter
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States414 Posts
July 07 2010 07:32 GMT
#1588
To the people claiming people will be racist, the general idea is this is a two-way street. And just as racism isn't really done heavily by people in most normal social instances (Yeah, exceptions exceptions), when the harassers have their names attached to it as well, there's even more of a stigma against it. Because if there's one thing I'm sure a boss would love to see, it would be you calling people the n-word all day long on a gaming forum.

Also this still makes people easier to ignore due to centralized accounts (Bnet forums have always had the ignore button lately, however it only ignored one character on the account. This allows you to blanket ignore bigots, which is always a plus). I'd rather have my racists be accountable for their choice of words than anonymous and malicious, but that's just me.
n.DieJokes
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States3443 Posts
July 07 2010 07:33 GMT
#1589
Whatever, I'm not buying the game anyway >.>
MyLove + Your Love= Supa Love
Drowsy
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
United States4876 Posts
July 07 2010 07:34 GMT
#1590
On July 07 2010 15:55 Sylvr wrote:
Very relevant:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qiauaGbxipA



absolutely awesome. I thought they banned making these movies because of copyright stuff though?
Our Protoss, Who art in Aiur HongUn be Thy name; Thy stalker come, Thy will be blunk, on ladder as it is in Micro Tourny. Give us this win in our daily ladder, and forgive us our cheeses, As we forgive those who play zerg against us.
ourson
Profile Joined July 2010
France27 Posts
July 07 2010 07:34 GMT
#1591
RealID will connect you with new friends...alot.

[image loading]
Ikiron
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States88 Posts
July 07 2010 07:35 GMT
#1592
Not only are you not safe on the forums, it seem someone found a little exploit with the real name id thing.
http://www.mmo-champion.com/threads/733742-Grats-Blizzard-on-releasing-an-unsecure-Real-ID-system.


This is mind boggling to me.
___________________________________

Grats Blizzard on releasing an unsecure Real ID system.

So...

/run for i=1,100 do if BNIsSelf(i)then BNSendWhisper(i,"RealID whisper from yourself..");break end end

Type that in game and look what comes up. Recognize the name? Yeah... thanks blizzard for allowing anyone who makes an addon to add that to their code to extract personal details strait from WoW.

Just be warned when updating or downloading new addons. I could be grabbing your personal info. Real ID is very win... ty blizz....

I HAVE REPORTED THIS TO BLIZZARD... why do people keep telling me to do this... Picture of my mouseover macro exploiting this flaw:

http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/6942/ridmover.jpg

Sweet, now I can't hide anywhere!
Why be the best when you can die like the rest.
Whiztard
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States227 Posts
July 07 2010 07:36 GMT
#1593
I find it amusing that Blizzard deleted one of my threads on Battle.net, my original post was the following.

+ Show Spoiler +
With the recent announcement of the real life ID forum integration, how much will you take before you decide to, straight out, leave the Blizzard community and/or boycott Blizzard products?

It might sound extreme, but seriously, there has been too many twists and turns that Blizzard has been making recently, that it seems like as if they're changing their whole stance on the gaming community, making it more about the money.

Please allow me to summarize the events that brought on multiple threads of controversy.

LAN functionality
Unconcern about chatrooms
Removal of friend message from B.Net
Making it difficult to add non-rl friends on B.Net 2.0 without revealing real ID
Console-ish interface for SCII
No cross realm play
Facebook Integration
Making all forum IDs real IDs

Granted, some of the above have its reasons, such as protection vs piracy. The thing is, I want to know how many of you are on the edge of abandoning Blizzard, and if not, how much more you'll take.

Personally, if this were to happen to any other company, I would abandon them for any one of the above reasons. But, this is Blizzard we're talking about here. I could take some more shit thrown at me, seeing as how much I love their games before,....but I gotta say though, I'm not exactly far from considering the boycott method either.


of course, I can see why, I'm clearly taking away their sales with my topic, lol.
when Bisu switches to SC2...... (2014 update: sighh)
ghosthunter
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States414 Posts
July 07 2010 07:37 GMT
#1594
On July 07 2010 16:34 Drowsy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2010 15:55 Sylvr wrote:
Very relevant:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qiauaGbxipA



absolutely awesome. I thought they banned making these movies because of copyright stuff though?


Nah, and sorry to derail. The company that made the movie is a documentary. They gave the video to google and told them to ensure it wasn't being posted in its entirety without realizing what was going to happen to all the hitler videos. They realized afterwards that they liked the videos and didn't intend for them to get taken down, as they are basically free viral marketing and people enjoy it, so they had them reinstated pretty quickly afterwards (like, within 24 hours).

As a side note, the reason why is also because its much more effective for companies to place ads for you to buy the product on the side than take the video down, because after watching you may be interested in purchasing whatever it is you watched (especially in the case of music). Which makes sense and is a much more enforceable policy (you also benefit from free advertising).

But I digress. Just letting you know
ghosthunter
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States414 Posts
July 07 2010 07:39 GMT
#1595
On July 07 2010 16:35 Ikiron wrote:
Not only are you not safe on the forums, it seem someone found a little exploit with the real name id thing.
http://www.mmo-champion.com/threads/733742-Grats-Blizzard-on-releasing-an-unsecure-Real-ID-system.


This is mind boggling to me.
___________________________________

Grats Blizzard on releasing an unsecure Real ID system.

So...

/run for i=1,100 do if BNIsSelf(i)then BNSendWhisper(i,"RealID whisper from yourself..");break end end

Type that in game and look what comes up. Recognize the name? Yeah... thanks blizzard for allowing anyone who makes an addon to add that to their code to extract personal details strait from WoW.

Just be warned when updating or downloading new addons. I could be grabbing your personal info. Real ID is very win... ty blizz....

I HAVE REPORTED THIS TO BLIZZARD... why do people keep telling me to do this... Picture of my mouseover macro exploiting this flaw:

http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/6942/ridmover.jpg

Sweet, now I can't hide anywhere!


Please read what you quote, which is a thread in which people refute what he says constantly, as people had been testing this since 3.3.5 ptr had come out. I know just quoting things is fun and exciting! But actually having content that is true is also useful.
javy_
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1677 Posts
July 07 2010 07:40 GMT
#1596
ROFL, I absolutely love the Hitler parody videos. The thing about BB and $5 for sc2 was just great. I loved how one of the generals adjusted his collar after Hitler mentioned this, suggesting that he knows that the orders placed have been canceled by BB (see: http://slickdeals.net/forums/showthread.php?t=2110560 ).
♪~( ̄。 ̄)
Ikiron
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States88 Posts
July 07 2010 07:41 GMT
#1597
On July 07 2010 16:39 ghosthunter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2010 16:35 Ikiron wrote:
Not only are you not safe on the forums, it seem someone found a little exploit with the real name id thing.
http://www.mmo-champion.com/threads/733742-Grats-Blizzard-on-releasing-an-unsecure-Real-ID-system.


This is mind boggling to me.
___________________________________

Grats Blizzard on releasing an unsecure Real ID system.

So...

/run for i=1,100 do if BNIsSelf(i)then BNSendWhisper(i,"RealID whisper from yourself..");break end end

Type that in game and look what comes up. Recognize the name? Yeah... thanks blizzard for allowing anyone who makes an addon to add that to their code to extract personal details strait from WoW.

Just be warned when updating or downloading new addons. I could be grabbing your personal info. Real ID is very win... ty blizz....

I HAVE REPORTED THIS TO BLIZZARD... why do people keep telling me to do this... Picture of my mouseover macro exploiting this flaw:

http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/6942/ridmover.jpg

Sweet, now I can't hide anywhere!


Please read what you quote, which is a thread in which people refute what he says constantly, as people had been testing this since 3.3.5 ptr had come out. I know just quoting things is fun and exciting! But actually having content that is true is also useful.

Look at the picture, I notice some real names there :O
Why be the best when you can die like the rest.
ghosthunter
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States414 Posts
July 07 2010 07:46 GMT
#1598
On July 07 2010 16:41 Ikiron wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2010 16:39 ghosthunter wrote:
On July 07 2010 16:35 Ikiron wrote:
Not only are you not safe on the forums, it seem someone found a little exploit with the real name id thing.
http://www.mmo-champion.com/threads/733742-Grats-Blizzard-on-releasing-an-unsecure-Real-ID-system.


This is mind boggling to me.
___________________________________

Grats Blizzard on releasing an unsecure Real ID system.

So...

/run for i=1,100 do if BNIsSelf(i)then BNSendWhisper(i,"RealID whisper from yourself..");break end end

Type that in game and look what comes up. Recognize the name? Yeah... thanks blizzard for allowing anyone who makes an addon to add that to their code to extract personal details strait from WoW.

Just be warned when updating or downloading new addons. I could be grabbing your personal info. Real ID is very win... ty blizz....

I HAVE REPORTED THIS TO BLIZZARD... why do people keep telling me to do this... Picture of my mouseover macro exploiting this flaw:

http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/6942/ridmover.jpg

Sweet, now I can't hide anywhere!


Please read what you quote, which is a thread in which people refute what he says constantly, as people had been testing this since 3.3.5 ptr had come out. I know just quoting things is fun and exciting! But actually having content that is true is also useful.

Look at the picture, I notice some real names there :O


Yeah, and then there's still no one else in the thread confirming what he's said as true, and a lot of people saying that he just photoshopped it. There's also no confirmation of this on the wow-hack sites, or really anywhere else. Which leads to the point that he probably photoshopped it because he likes trolling and fear mongering.

Probably because there's no ramifications for doing either since it's an anonymous forum and his trolling isn't linked to his real name which would probably discourage him.

OH SHIZ I JUST WENT THERE.
bubblegumbo
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Taiwan1296 Posts
July 07 2010 07:48 GMT
#1599
I too, prefer to insult people over Battlenet under anonymity .
"I honestly think that whoever invented toilet paper is a genius. For man to survive, they need toilet paper!"- Nal_rA
Chesner
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Iceland817 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-07 07:50:40
July 07 2010 07:50 GMT
#1600
I personally don't mind, played WoW since it came out and I think I've posted there once. Thats not gonna change with SC2, I got TL <3

Edit:
On July 07 2010 16:07 Kennigit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2010 15:55 Sylvr wrote:
Very relevant:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qiauaGbxipA

hahaha amazing


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