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im a roc
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States745 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-08 00:44:31
July 08 2010 00:44 GMT
#2121
On July 08 2010 09:40 Liquid`NonY wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2010 09:16 travis wrote:
man, BBC is the shit(that's a good thing for those who don't understand american slang)
here's to hoping american news media don't run stories on this skewing it the other way

but it has the facts wrong. you can see for yourself that the thread and post are still there http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=25712374892&pageNo=1#16

Yeah, I noticed the same thing. The article closes with:

The post and topic has since been removed from the Blizzard forum.


But as you can see from NonY's link as well as THIS, it's definitely still there
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Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-08 00:46:54
July 08 2010 00:45 GMT
#2122
On July 08 2010 09:40 Liquid`NonY wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2010 09:16 travis wrote:
man, BBC is the shit(that's a good thing for those who don't understand american slang)
here's to hoping american news media don't run stories on this skewing it the other way

but it has the facts wrong. you can see for yourself that the thread and post are still there http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=25712374892&pageNo=1#16


oh, sharp call

fuck you BBC you lying scumbags!

or actually, maybe BBC was just referring to a different post and topic? I don't know. Do any posts in that thread still contain the info on micah wipple? (or however u spell his name)
EmeraldSparks
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States1451 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-08 00:46:52
July 08 2010 00:46 GMT
#2123
http://img697.imageshack.us/img697/7913/10sdgtsa.png

sometimes it's good to be a girl
But why?
carrion
Profile Joined April 2010
United Kingdom87 Posts
July 08 2010 00:49 GMT
#2124
I still can't believe this is for real. This is the single most retarded thing I've heard since lack of dedicated servers in MW2.
FiRewater
Profile Joined April 2010
United States56 Posts
July 08 2010 00:50 GMT
#2125
"It’s important to us to create a new and different kind of online gaming environment – one that’s highly social, and which provides an ideal place for gamers to form long-lasting, meaningful relationships." -Blizzard

Without chat rooms you can't have a 'highly social' environment...
Clamev
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Germany498 Posts
July 08 2010 00:50 GMT
#2126
Welcome to the real world people, you live by your actions.

Yeah exactly finally girls deserve what they get like getting called at 4:30am by some creepy guy because they had a probleme with their video card!
And people can´t get jobs because the made ONE stupid posts years ago!
Finaly Pedophiles can find out where you´re kids are living

I can't believe how retarded people are about this, you all apparently buy into the stereotype of gamers and forum goers all being psycho paths more than anyone.

This so clearly shows that you are a white adolescent male with no experiences of beeing Stalked/Harrased etc. I state it once again just because people don´t give a shit about you does not mean they don´t give a shit about other. SO what you are basically saying is fuck those people people like females, Gays , minorities or people with unpopular opinions because i do not want people trolling in my Forum.

Yes every famous person on the planet complains about being harassed constantly, yes it blows no there simply isn't a way around it.

Yes there is: Not beeing forced to display youre full Name to post in a forum about videogames.
Yes stalking still happens without that but it just makes it that more easier.
I personally would prefer having a forum full of Trolls than having peoples lifes invated even if it´s just a creepy phonecall.That stuff can break you mentally.

Look at every single famous actor, athlete, or musician .. they all complain about this stuff.
how can you not see that this is an argument against youre claims?
Look at those people who are having problems because their information out there, so let´s put more people´s information out there so more people have this kind of problem.

This is not about persons like you.Nobody would give a fuck about you posting online.it´s about the principles that anonymity grands that i personally like about the internet expierence:
Nobody is excluded!
Nobody judges you by youre age by youre skinn color,by youre religious views,by youre political views,by youre gender,by youre sexuality all that counts is what you post.
If you are trolling you are a Troll no matter how much money you make or how you look you are a Troll and you need to be banned.
If you are a known skillfull player than you are known for that.
6Pool or die trying
Potato Tree
Profile Joined June 2010
16 Posts
July 08 2010 00:50 GMT
#2127
On July 08 2010 09:28 Synk wrote:
Welcome to the real world people, you live by your actions. I can't believe how retarded people are about this, you all apparently buy into the stereotype of gamers and forum goers all being psycho paths more than anyone. Where I live ( in the real world ) my name is attached to everything I do at work, when I go out, and when I purchase anything. This means all of you people who just mindless post retarded shit, troll forums, or don't at least commit a tiny bit of thought before just venting into a seething nerd rage will have to come back down to the REAL WORLD where the rest of us live. Your name is attached to everything you do in the real world ... do none of you guys have normal jobs? what the fuck . its beyond belief to me how worked into a frenzy these forums get. Anyone who drives by your car or where you live ( your address ) can get your full name, its public record ... all this change is doing is attaching your name to the things you say on internet forums or chat rooms and in my opinion its a GREAT thing, start acting like descent human beings again.

Yes every famous person on the planet complains about being harassed constantly, yes it blows no there simply isn't a way around it. You present your lives on a stage and sell your works, yes your going to get rabid fans who want to be just like you. Look at every single famous actor, athlete, or musician .. they all complain about this stuff.


Are you serious?
Do you not see that in the REAL WORLD when some psycho starts harassing you on the street, you can either defend yourself, call the police, or run, but when some psycho starts doing it on the net you: A) HAVE NO IDEA WHO HE IS B) NO WAY TO FIGHT BACK C) THE REST OF YOUR LIFE MIGHT BE RUINED. Do you honestly wish that on some 14 year old who posted something that the 40 year-old troll disagreed with? (ie: roach to 3 food?)

There are times when I do want to present myself on stage, like if I won some award, but definitely NOT when playing some computer game.
im a roc
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States745 Posts
July 08 2010 00:51 GMT
#2128
Four more articles about this whole scandal. I love how all of them talk about how WoW players are mad without a mention of SC2 (which is what the whole change is based around)

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/38134494/ns/technology_and_science/
http://www.cbc.ca/technology/story/2010/07/07/warcraft-activision-blizzard-trolls.html?ref=rss
http://www.boston.com/business/technology/articles/2010/07/07/bye_bye_trolls_blizzard_forums_to_use_real_names/
http://www.chicagotribune.com/business/sns-ap-tec-techbits,0,5682206.story
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Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
July 08 2010 00:54 GMT
#2129
On July 08 2010 09:51 im a roc wrote:
Four more articles about this whole scandal. I love how all of them talk about how WoW players are mad without a mention of SC2 (which is what the whole change is based around)


it's not
from what i understand it's retroactive for WoW players too
which is a whole lot of people..
shalamadoooo
Profile Joined July 2010
78 Posts
July 08 2010 00:55 GMT
#2130
The worst about this is that the people who don't get it are going to be the voice of the community! Blizzard is silencing rational people and then whats left are the folks who don't get this, won't get the next step blizzard does, etc... it will feed back on itself making everything worse.

It is sociopathic genius, really.
im a roc
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States745 Posts
July 08 2010 00:57 GMT
#2131
On July 08 2010 09:54 travis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2010 09:51 im a roc wrote:
Four more articles about this whole scandal. I love how all of them talk about how WoW players are mad without a mention of SC2 (which is what the whole change is based around)


it's not
from what i understand it's retroactive for WoW players too
which is a whole lot of people..

It's not a retroactive change for SC2 forums, and I'm almost positive that it won't be for WoW either. My thinking behind what I said was that the whole concept of real id was first implemented in SC2, and now it is just spreading into WoW and these forums, but I suppose that the WoW user population is dramatically higher than what will be the SC2 user count.
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kajeus
Profile Joined May 2010
United States679 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-08 01:02:41
July 08 2010 01:00 GMT
#2132
On July 08 2010 08:30 travis wrote:
btw my challenge still stands, page after page

if you support this, then answer this question, it's quite simple


Show nested quote +

where is the benefit of this at? the only purpose I can even see for it is information collecting. Aren't they limiting us to only one account anyways? So what is the benefit, what's the justification?


(really, i'd like to know)

That's a question for them, isn't it?

I imagine it costs money to mod forums as big and as popular as that. You'd need full-time mods, too -- people whose sole job is to read all these stupid posts 24/7. You'd need LOTS of SHIFTS of mods. Sound expensive yet?

Additionally, I can imagine it being bad PR to ban tons of people from the forums. It's a tough call, and I'm not sure this had anything to do with their reasoning, but banning paying customers can get hairy...

it's not
from what i understand it's retroactive for WoW players too
which is a whole lot of people..

Pretty sure you're dead wrong about that. They already said it would only apply after a certain start-date and only to certain forums.
pro-MoMaN, pro-HuK, pro-Millenium
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
July 08 2010 01:06 GMT
#2133
On July 08 2010 10:00 kajeus wrote:
Pretty sure you're dead wrong about that. They already said it would only apply after a certain start-date and only to certain forums.


then why are so many WoW players upset? and why do the news articles say it will effect WoW players? and why does the realID page talk about WoW,

actually screw all that it says it right here


The first and most significant change is that in the near future, anyone posting or replying to a post on official Blizzard forums will be doing so using their Real ID -- that is, their real-life first and last name -- with the option to also display the name of their primary in-game character alongside it. These changes will go into effect on all StarCraft II forums with the launch of the new community site prior to the July 27 release of the game, with the World of Warcraft site and forums following suit near the launch of Cataclysm.
im a roc
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States745 Posts
July 08 2010 01:08 GMT
#2134
On July 08 2010 10:06 travis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2010 10:00 kajeus wrote:
Pretty sure you're dead wrong about that. They already said it would only apply after a certain start-date and only to certain forums.


then why are so many WoW players upset? and why do the news articles say it will effect WoW players? and why does the realID page talk about WoW,

actually screw all that it says it right here

Show nested quote +

The first and most significant change is that in the near future, anyone posting or replying to a post on official Blizzard forums will be doing so using their Real ID -- that is, their real-life first and last name -- with the option to also display the name of their primary in-game character alongside it. These changes will go into effect on all StarCraft II forums with the launch of the new community site prior to the July 27 release of the game, with the World of Warcraft site and forums following suit near the launch of Cataclysm.

Forums will be real names only for SC2, WoW, D3, and all future Blizzard games if this does end up going through.
Beware The Proxy Pool Rush
GMarshal
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States22154 Posts
July 08 2010 01:08 GMT
#2135
Yes, travis, but its not "retroactive" meaning that old posts are labeled with your name, its just that the new WoW forums will require your name on the posts
Moderator
kajeus
Profile Joined May 2010
United States679 Posts
July 08 2010 01:10 GMT
#2136
On July 08 2010 10:06 travis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2010 10:00 kajeus wrote:
Pretty sure you're dead wrong about that. They already said it would only apply after a certain start-date and only to certain forums.


then why are so many WoW players upset? and why do the news articles say it will effect WoW players? and why does the realID page talk about WoW,

actually screw all that it says it right here

Show nested quote +

The first and most significant change is that in the near future, anyone posting or replying to a post on official Blizzard forums will be doing so using their Real ID -- that is, their real-life first and last name -- with the option to also display the name of their primary in-game character alongside it. These changes will go into effect on all StarCraft II forums with the launch of the new community site prior to the July 27 release of the game, with the World of Warcraft site and forums following suit near the launch of Cataclysm.

As per earlier in this thread...

http://www.wow.com/2010/07/06/blizzards-responses-on-the-real-id-situation/

One important point which I don't believe has been relayed yet is that the switch to showing RealID on the forums will only happen with the new forum systems we're launching for StarCraft II shortly before its release, and a new forum system for World of Warcraft launching shortly before the release of Cataclysm.

All posts here on the current World of Warcraft forums, or any of our classic Battle.net forums, will remain as-is. They won't (and can't) automatically switch to showing a real first and last name.

All posts in the future on the new forum systems will be an opt-in choice and ample warning will be given that you're posting with your real first and last name.


I mean, come on. They're not crazy.
pro-MoMaN, pro-HuK, pro-Millenium
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-08 01:12:02
July 08 2010 01:11 GMT
#2137
ahh maybe i was just using the word retroactive wrong
i meant "it will go into effect for people playing wow"

actually im not even sure i was using the word wrong it was just miscommunication
Synk
Profile Joined April 2010
United States297 Posts
July 08 2010 01:14 GMT
#2138
I'm actually 25 years old and I have worked in and around call centers all of my adult life. I know all about security and fraud as I have been in charge of handling credit applications at two of my previous employers. I've probably handled over ten thousand different peoples confidential information and taken personally half of that, I know all about this kind of stuff and I'm really quiet puzzled why you just assume I am not. Oh thats right, because people on the internet just talk out of their asses 24/7? right ....

Anyways, I'm not going to debate this with the gaggle of enraged nerds that seems to come out of the woodwork every-time Blizzard instigates any kind of new grounding breaking change. I'm sure the people in this thread are going to go out of their way to harass me for doing this but I feel this is a large step that the gaming community needs to make so heres my tiny contribution--

Cya
Michael McGee

( OH GOD )
Don't argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.
kajeus
Profile Joined May 2010
United States679 Posts
July 08 2010 01:16 GMT
#2139
On July 08 2010 10:14 Synk wrote:
I'm actually 25 years old and I have worked in and around call centers all of my adult life. I know all about security and fraud as I have been in charge of handling credit applications at two of my previous employers. I've probably handled over ten thousand different peoples confidential information and taken personally half of that, I know all about this kind of stuff and I'm really quiet puzzled why you just assume I am not. Oh thats right, because people on the internet just talk out of their asses 24/7? right ....

Anyways, I'm not going to debate this with the gaggle of enraged nerds that seems to come out of the woodwork every-time Blizzard instigates any kind of new grounding breaking change. I'm sure the people in this thread are going to go out of their way to harass me for doing this but I feel this is a large step that the gaming community needs to make so heres my tiny contribution--

Cya
Michael McGee

( OH GOD )

Props, man. People are just afraid of other people, I guess. I'm surprised they tell anybody their name ever. So don't sweat these guys. B)
pro-MoMaN, pro-HuK, pro-Millenium
On_Slaught
Profile Joined August 2008
United States12190 Posts
July 08 2010 01:20 GMT
#2140
Blizzar is literally throwing away money with this decision. Just close the fucking forums if they are a cesspool (and they are).
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