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PanN
United States2828 Posts
On June 10 2010 03:11 IntoTheWow wrote: I did not use the word pleasure, I said entertainment. I also did not talk about sustaining human life, but eating. Nice try though! edit: also, Zoler | V hahahha at nice try, he didn't even have a point. Glad the guy got hurt =) I hope if he's stupid enough to do it again, he gets hurt more =) | ||
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Wi)nD
Canada719 Posts
On June 10 2010 02:57 IntoTheWow wrote: I'm glad this happened. +1, wish the bull would have done more serious dmg tho | ||
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pyr0ma5ta
United States458 Posts
On June 10 2010 02:56 Corrupt wrote: Holy cow! ![[image loading]](http://captionsearch.com/pix/2rub7eoeem.jpg) ಠ_ಠ Though not strictly correct, it's a bull. User was warned for this post | ||
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katull
Germany14 Posts
So you are saying he deserved this? Could you laugh at this? By that logic (considering my prior points) anyone who eats meat deserves the same. Is that your point? Please elaborate I'm not praising the sport, I'm praising the way they keep their cattle. If I would have to chose as a cow, I'd rather live happily and fight unfairly than being tortured all my life... | ||
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Pengu1n
United States552 Posts
On June 10 2010 03:12 Thrill wrote: That's not even relevant to the argument. Yeah, we eat beef for pleasure but most of us who purchase packed meat assume that the animal has been put down humanly. There's a huge difference to assumed humane killing (i realize this is not always the case, but it is by principle illegal and when a case surfaces that animals have been killed in an inhumane fashion, it always makes headline news at least where i live) and intended suffering for entertainment. Go troll somewhere else. Whether the animal is put down humanly or not its still being killed when it wants to live. The matadors and the people who enjoy the fights look it with the idea that the bull is going to be killed anyways, at least this way it has a chance of dieing with honor, maybe more painfully but the bull also has a chance to fight back against its killer. I would prefer myself to die with a fight than be put down involuntarily with no chance to do anything. | ||
IntoTheWow
is awesome32278 Posts
On June 10 2010 03:34 katull wrote: So you are saying he deserved this? Could you laugh at this? By that logic (considering my prior points) anyone who eats meat deserves the same. Is that your point? Please elaborate I'm not praising the sport, I'm praising the way they keep their cattle. If I would have to chose as a cow, I'd rather live happily and fight unfairly than being tortured all my life... Yeah and If I were god I would cure world hunger. But you are not a cow. And cows don't get to choose. Now back into reality. Please try not to put words I didn't not say into my mouth. What I said is that even if bulls are treated nicer before being tortured in public, that doesn't take away the fact that they are indeed tortured for entertainment. Better than bad, can still be bad. Trying to go off the tangent with the way meat is mass produced today doesn't work either. We are not talking about that in this thread, and even if we were, it doesn't make this 'sport' any better. | ||
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PanN
United States2828 Posts
On June 10 2010 03:34 Pengu1n wrote: Whether the animal is put down humanly or not its still being killed when it wants to live. The matadors and the people who enjoy the fights look it with the idea that the bull is going to be killed anyways, at least this way it has a chance of dieing with honor, maybe more painfully but the bull also has a chance to fight back against its killer. I would prefer myself to die with a fight than be put down involuntarily with no chance to do anything. Yeah being stabbed, and if it fights back and wins, it's still killed. Lol, you call being put in a cage and stabbed repeatedly "honor" lol, you're a complete joke. | ||
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IntoTheWow
is awesome32278 Posts
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NonY
8751 Posts
On June 10 2010 03:11 IntoTheWow wrote: I did not use the word pleasure, I said entertainment. I also did not talk about sustaining human life, but eating. Nice try though! edit: also, Zoler | V lol kid you can't point out that I used different words and pretend that means something until you've given a reason why it means something. Pleasure encompasses entertainment, so I'm perfectly fine there. I only brought up sustaining human life as a way of anticipating a possible counterargument that you could make. That is, you could say we need to eat so killing for beef isn't for pleasure, even though we do get pleasure out of it. But of course that's incorrect because killing for beef is almost always for pleasure and hardly ever out of necessity. So, do you have any arguments or logic or just your typical bullshit one liners? =[ | ||
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IntoTheWow
is awesome32278 Posts
On June 10 2010 03:34 Pengu1n wrote: Whether the animal is put down humanly or not its still being killed when it wants to live. The matadors and the people who enjoy the fights look it with the idea that the bull is going to be killed anyways, at least this way it has a chance of dieing with honor, maybe more painfully but the bull also has a chance to fight back against its killer. I would prefer myself to die with a fight than be put down involuntarily with no chance to do anything. Yeah nice fair fight. The moment the person is injured a bunch of people get the bull away and take the person to a doctor. The moment the bull is injured people clap and scream! This photo was not the bull dying with honor, it was just a crack in their torturing system. | ||
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QuanticHawk
United States32130 Posts
And people, do not listen to ITW. HE'S ARGENTINIAN. His country is renown for its beef. Dude's hands are literally covered in bovine blood. That savage! | ||
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Elroi
Sweden5599 Posts
On June 10 2010 03:34 Pengu1n wrote: anyways, at least this way it has a chance of dieing with honor lol what? seriously? stop disnyfiying the bull. It doesn't want to fight. Me too, I'm happy that duche got roughed up. | ||
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Zoler
Sweden6339 Posts
On June 10 2010 03:24 fredd wrote: If you think the mass-produced meat you have readily available to you hasn't been tortured, you must be really naive. So you mean you can't chose products that says they aren't? As far as I know there are lots of meat that comes from cows that hasn't been tortured and has lived happy lives or w/e. I'm not saying I do this right now because I'm not the one buying dinner for my home (mom does) but when I get own place I sure will! | ||
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IntoTheWow
is awesome32278 Posts
On June 10 2010 03:43 Hawk wrote: This happened a few weeks ago! Still friggin' insane. And people, do not listen to ITW. HE'S ARGENTINIAN. His country is renown for its beef. Dude's hands are literally covered in bovine blood. That savage! lol so american, ignorant about the rest of the world. Here we get up early every morning with bows and arrows and go hunt our own food. Animals here die with honor. | ||
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Vasoline73
United States7847 Posts
"YEAH ITS NOT MY CULTURE WHAT ASSHOLES" Like Nony said everyone eats beef and those cows die worse than the bulls do. Bull fighting is just a cultural thing and just because you don't understand it doesn't mean someone deserves to get mauled. | ||
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gillon
Sweden1578 Posts
On June 10 2010 03:39 Liquid`NonY wrote: lol kid you can't point out that I used different words and pretend that means something until you've given a reason why it means something. Pleasure encompasses entertainment, so I'm perfectly fine there. I only brought up sustaining human life as a way of anticipating a possible counterargument that you could make. That is, you could say we need to eat so killing for beef isn't for pleasure, even though we do get pleasure out of it. But of course that's incorrect because killing for beef is almost always for pleasure and hardly ever out of necessity. So, do you have any arguments or logic or just your typical bullshit one liners? =[ There has already been multiple arguments provided in this thread. Basically it boils down to the difference between turning something into a bloodsport where you torture the animal and slaughtering it for meat. | ||
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gillon
Sweden1578 Posts
On June 10 2010 03:45 Vasoline73 wrote: lol @ everyone saying he deserved this. "YEAH ITS NOT MY CULTURE WHAT ASSHOLES" Like Nony said everyone eats beef and those cows die worse than the bulls do. Bull fighting is just a cultural thing and just because you don't understand it doesn't mean someone deserves to get mauled. He's poking a sword at the bull. I'd very much so think he deserves to get mauled. Shit, he should be PREPARED to get mauled when stepping into the arena with it. | ||
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PanN
United States2828 Posts
On June 10 2010 03:45 Vasoline73 wrote: lol @ everyone saying he deserved this. "YEAH ITS NOT MY CULTURE WHAT ASSHOLES" Like Nony said everyone eats beef and those cows die worse than the bulls do. Bull fighting is just a cultural thing and just because you don't understand it doesn't mean someone deserves to get mauled. So basically, since it's their culture, they shouldn't change. Oh I guess it was the U.S.'s culture to have slaves along time ago, but we shouldn't change culture right? Because evolving is bad or something? Fuck em, they stab an animal for sport, then it fucks him up, GOOD. | ||
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IntoTheWow
is awesome32278 Posts
On June 10 2010 03:39 Liquid`NonY wrote: lol kid you can't point out that I used different words and pretend that means something until you've given a reason why it means something. Pleasure encompasses entertainment, so I'm perfectly fine there. I only brought up sustaining human life as a way of anticipating a possible counterargument that you could make. That is, you could say we need to eat so killing for beef isn't for pleasure, even though we do get pleasure out of it. But of course that's incorrect because killing for beef is almost always for pleasure and hardly ever out of necessity. So, do you have any arguments or logic or just your typical bullshit one liners? =[ hey "kiddo", try and read the rest of my posts in this thread. Why should I make gigantic posts when my point of view is perfectly understandable the way they are? You equalized torturing animals with killing them. Come back from that and we can continue talking. | ||
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Zoler
Sweden6339 Posts
On June 10 2010 03:45 Vasoline73 wrote: lol @ everyone saying he deserved this. "YEAH ITS NOT MY CULTURE WHAT ASSHOLES" Like Nony said everyone eats beef and those cows die worse than the bulls do. Bull fighting is just a cultural thing and just because you don't understand it doesn't mean someone deserves to get mauled. This is the worst comment of this thread pretty much lol. I guess if some country had a culture of killing people in an arena that would be exactly the same thing. No? Then what is your point? | ||
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