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mrdx
Vietnam1555 Posts
On May 28 2010 07:00 iloahz wrote: "any" group competition? Like say we have a little competition with 3 people inside our own house we gotta have Blizzard's written consent? Read the rest of the sentence -_- | ||
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Kralic
Canada2628 Posts
Edit: Also read the entire TOS instead of highlighting the most disturbing thing on its own. It is there to protect their property. Most likely they will have a "Tournament License" for companies that are going to throw a huge tournament with a big prize. ie: OSL MSL WCG and so on. | ||
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crate
United States2474 Posts
This is nothing new, I think. | ||
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QibingZero
2611 Posts
On May 28 2010 07:03 LaSt)ChAnCe wrote: Great game makers have bills, too. Every time someone makes a comment like this, regarding some huge corporation making sure they secure any potential profits, it's a slap in the face to everyone out there who actually does have to worry about paying bills. Or, you know, worse. | ||
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MadJack
Peru357 Posts
On May 28 2010 07:17 Keyser wrote: I doubt TL could be classified as a non-profit entity unless it is charging for something I am not aware of. It's a legal term that doesn't really mean exactly how it sounds. I tought non-profit actually ment non-profit, but as you say if its a legal term and I might be/am wrong. Still, it doesnt make it right that they mention "E-sports" as if that was something they own, its like we had to pay the creator/s (or their heirs) of basketball everytime you play the game. | ||
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Zeke50100
United States2220 Posts
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The6357
United States1268 Posts
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Vain
Netherlands1115 Posts
On May 28 2010 07:00 PJA wrote: How dare blizzard try to profit from their amazing games! The more money blizzard is able to make from SC2 being a successful e-sport the more likely they are to put more effort into designing, balancing, supporting, etc. SC2 and any other RTS they make in the future. So you are saying starcraft II is at this moment such a good game because of all the money they made with wow? + Show Spoiler + WHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHA | ||
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sgeng
United States78 Posts
On May 28 2010 07:11 Shizuru~ wrote: i really do not understand where this mentality of Blizzard is doing this for milking cash off the E-Sport community comes from... You don't? Let me tell you: unadulterated greed. They saw how big BW got in the esports scene and figured that they could be making a LOT more by simply retaining the rights to all tournaments/sanctioned events and charging money to high profile events to be held. I doubt they will bother with the small grassroots stuff. But stuff like the MSL and the Starleague I can see them requiring a fraction of the money to go to themselves. As a business move, it'll probably rake in a lot of money for Blizzard...or it could kill off the fledgling SC2 competitive scene. It remains to be seen. Probably the former though. I personally do not agree with Blizzard's attempts to control esports. Sure they made the game, but that in no way should allow them to restrict the freedom to hold competitive tournaments or events using this game. No other game has ever done this, it is a limitation on the rights of the game-buyers. It's as if Wizards of the Coast went ahead and said "You can't hold Magic tournaments without our consent." Simply makes no sense. The company makes the game. They sell the game. The game is now in the customer's possession and he/she should be allowed to do whatever he/she wants to (within legal bounds). | ||
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Kenpachi
United States9908 Posts
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Pablols
Chile519 Posts
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11cc
Finland561 Posts
Once the tourneys and the scene gets bigger, blizzard will ask more money, actively punishing community effort for their success. That's what they wanted to do with bw too in Korea too. And there is good arguments for both kespa and blizzard there. But with sc2 blizzard is taking all the power and that's a little too greedy in my opinion. With bw we have a great game and freedom, and it needed both to be as succesful as it is today. Not gonna get as lucky again it seems. edit: damn 100post... well better luck at 1000 | ||
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Spiffeh
United States830 Posts
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Keyser
102 Posts
On May 28 2010 07:26 MadJack wrote: I tought non-profit actually ment non-profit, but as you say if its a legal term and I might be/am wrong. Still, it doesnt make it right that they mention "E-sports" as if that was something they own, its like we had to pay the creator/s (or their heirs) of basketball everytime you play the game. If basketball had been created today I am sure you would have to pay to host big tournaments for that too Basically to be considered a non-profit entity you actually do need to be making money somehow, but there is no money leftover for the owners at the end of the day, it is just used for running the business. Wikimedia, the company running Wikipedia is a good example. They have a lot of money flowing through, but it's used to maintain Wikipedia and whatever else they might be doing, they don't actually profit. I am not sure if the donations TL probably recieves would qualify for them to be a non-profit organization. I suppose it MIGHT, but it seems unlikely to me that Blizzard would want to block tournaments where there's no money to be had by the organizers. | ||
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T.O.P.
Hong Kong4685 Posts
On May 28 2010 07:30 Kenpachi wrote: wait so no TL starleagues? As long as TL gets written consent from Blizzard, they can run TSL. | ||
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NotGood-
United States134 Posts
On May 28 2010 07:02 Redmark wrote: Only if you're sponsored, I think. That's what it says. Does this mean blizz will hunt TL.net's ass down during say TSL 3 if its sponsored by razor or w/e? | ||
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Spawkuring
United States755 Posts
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crate
United States2474 Posts
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=113363#16 TL got a license to run TSL1/TSL2. This is nothing new. | ||
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Tankbusta
United States109 Posts
If so, your LAN tournament should be fine since you're not using their service | ||
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RifleCow
Canada637 Posts
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