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If this sticks with the launch of SC2 remains to be seen. But the ZOTAC SC 2 Cup has already been postponed beacuse of the licence inquiry sent to Blizzard had not yet been answered.
The start of the first weekly ZOTAC StarCraft II beta cup is postponed for some time. With the release of the StarCraft II beta the necessary tournament license was requested from Blizzard but yet was not answered. Due to the missing license the tournament must be postponed until Blizzard is sending an approval to the new ZOTAC competition.
As soon as positive feedback is coming in the new ZOTAC cup is starting with the familiar quality and regularity. http://sc2.cups.gamesports.net/en/cup/1/
Blue post on the SC2 forum:
+ Show Spoiler +Interested in running Starcraft II beta tournaments? Please send an email with the following information about your tournament to sc-tourneyinfo-eu@blizzard.com .
• Name of the tournament
• Name of the person operating the tournament
• Name of the organization running the tournament
• Contact information
• Mailing address
• Times and dates of your tournament
• Participating country(ies)
• List of tournament sponsors and partners
We will review and evaluate your request.
Thank you,
Blizzard eSports Team
Link to above post
Whats your thoughts on this strict behavior from Blizzard? World domination next?
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Hm I hope Blizzard knows what they're doing or this could end up being bad for the scene, does OGN/MBC need this if they're going to host tournaments on their channels? I'm guessing they will have to get it like any others. Could be another reason for them and KeSPA to try and keep SC1 as the main game there.
Imho. its fine as long as they don't fuck up as in start interfering with how tournaments are ran and try to act like they're running it, the people should be given certain freedom or sponsors etc. are going to be scared away. Or start demanding money if people want to broadcast their games on tv, now that would be terrible for esports..
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Hopefully they don't care about small tourneys, since I'm sure my school's games club will be having an SC2 tourney when it comes out, and I wouldn't want to have to bother with legal fees to run it.
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On February 23 2010 04:46 krndandaman wrote:Show nested quote +On February 23 2010 04:45 Shadowfury333 wrote:
Hopefully they don't care about small tourneys, since I'm sure my school's games club will be having an SC2 tourney when it comes out, and I wouldn't want to have to bother with legal fees to run it. Doubt they'll even hear about local tournaments.
What are you talking about?
Blizzard has hired a special ops team specifically trained to find illegal SC2 tournaments all over the world.
Fines range from 3000$ to 4000$ or jail time up to 7 years.
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probably only matters for tournaments that give substantial money
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Blizzard needs to clarify what minimum prize pool requires licensing. Also, do licenses require fees? If so, what are the fees and do they change with tournament size or prize pool?
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This is ridicoulous, Blizzard can't forbid someone to make tournaments. I believe that when game comes out Blizzard will try to have some influence in better tournaments and if I'm not mistaken there should be something on battle.net to make tournaments easier to follow and participate etc, and for that I believe you'll need to pay or have licence or something.
But for some normal, classical tournaments Blizzard can't forbid anything, it's competitive game and they can't forbid players to be compete.
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I love how Blizzard only leases you the game. Funny. How much more absurdity do you need until more people become Anti-IP?
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No one saw this coming with the removal of LAN?
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Of course we saw it coming. It's just that we can't stop it, and that it may prove to be acceptable.
If you've ever read the Steam Subscriber Agreement, you don't really own your Steam games and there's no way to turn your Steam games into real games that can be run without Steam. This is also true for pre-Steam game keys you added to steam, such as your old copy of HL1 which is now a permanent part of Steam.
This is the EXACT SAME THING being done by Blizzard. Battle.net is their version of Steam and I wouldn't be surprised to see them give their launcher app a clever name down the line.
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On February 23 2010 05:45 Rothbardian wrote:
I love how Blizzard only leases you the game. Funny. How much more absurdity do you need until more people become Anti-IP?
this is standard business practice for a lot of company IPs
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On February 23 2010 05:44 bLah. wrote:
This is ridicoulous, Blizzard can't forbid someone to make tournaments. I believe that when game comes out Blizzard will try to have some influence in better tournaments and if I'm not mistaken there should be something on battle.net to make tournaments easier to follow and participate etc, and for that I believe you'll need to pay or have licence or something.
But for some normal, classical tournaments Blizzard can't forbid anything, it's competitive game and they can't forbid players to be compete.
I see nothing up there of blizzard outright forbidding people to play it looks like they are just taking their time replying to the email saying go ahead have some fun games, unless I'm mistaken it looks like they just want to be notified when tourneys are happening and how big they are its not a crime to want to know that, also didn't TSL 1 have to deal with that I remember somebody talking about it in a podcast, the license thing that is.
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blizzard will kill the e-sports if they dont stop about license .
i know you guy are fanboy and love blizzard but what they are doing right now = just wrong .
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On February 23 2010 06:03 Oddysay wrote:
blizzard will kill the e-sports if they dont stop about license .
i know you guy are fanboy and love blizzard but what they are doing right now = just wrong .
Take that ignorant shit to the b.net forums. Shouting fanboy to discredit those who disagree with you is the oldest of the old hat, so old that it really oughtn't have any place on this site.
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This is absolutely nothing new ... we got a license to run TSL/other BW tournaments.
And of course they're going to be more strict about this - this is a game that is still in closed beta, not a nearly 12 year old title.
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On February 23 2010 06:07 p4NDemik wrote:
This is absolutely nothing new ... we got a license to run TSL/other BW tournaments.
And of course they're going to be more strict about this - this is a game that is still in closed beta, not a nearly 12 year old title.
ahh that's exactly what I was thinking I thought it was TSL that I heard about this before, and yeah not really a big deal
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On February 23 2010 05:00 MidKnight wrote:Show nested quote +On February 23 2010 04:46 krndandaman wrote:On February 23 2010 04:45 Shadowfury333 wrote:
Hopefully they don't care about small tourneys, since I'm sure my school's games club will be having an SC2 tourney when it comes out, and I wouldn't want to have to bother with legal fees to run it. Doubt they'll even hear about local tournaments. What are you talking about? Blizzard has hired a special ops team specifically trained to find illegal SC2 tournaments all over the world. Fines range from 3000$ to 4000$ or jail time up to 7 years.
Yes, I hear they have recruited 15-20 former navy seals to deal with this issue in a task force called Operation CWAL.
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On February 23 2010 05:55 udgnim wrote:Show nested quote +On February 23 2010 05:45 Rothbardian wrote:
I love how Blizzard only leases you the game. Funny. How much more absurdity do you need until more people become Anti-IP? this is standard business practice for a lot of company IPs
And to you that's acceptable? IP is such a joke. Kinsella has written extensively on this topic. Idea's are not property. Similarly, when I buy a physical product, the seller shouldn't own it. If they are going to go this route, at least make it well known beforehand so I can avoid it at all costs, or just decide that the benefits outweigh the cons. There's more to this here:
http://blog.mises.org/archives/009923.asp
Blizzard failsauce. A healthy competitive gaming scene will not develop from the top down corporate structure of Blizzard. They should realize that letting their game be free-form and allowing the competitive scene to develop organically will drive higher sales, and higher revenue. Micro managing this I think will backfire on Blizzard. In the end, this is my speculation.
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what are you people whining about, every game company does this, it was the same for SC1 tournaments. Most likely blizzard wont even charge a fee.
On February 23 2010 06:26 Rothbardian wrote:Show nested quote +On February 23 2010 05:55 udgnim wrote:On February 23 2010 05:45 Rothbardian wrote:
I love how Blizzard only leases you the game. Funny. How much more absurdity do you need until more people become Anti-IP? this is standard business practice for a lot of company IPs And to you that's acceptable? IP is such a joke. Kinsella has written extensively on this topic. Idea's are not property. Similarly, when I buy a physical product, the seller shouldn't own it. If they are going to go this route, at least make it well known beforehand so I can avoid it at all costs, or just decide that the benefits outweigh the cons. There's more to this here: http://blog.mises.org/archives/009923.aspBlizzard failsauce. A healthy competitive gaming scene will not develop from the top down corporate structure of Blizzard. They should realize that letting their game be free-form and allowing the competitive scene to develop organically will drive higher sales, and higher revenue. Micro managing this I think will backfire on Blizzard. In the end, this is my speculation.
Its not Blizzard, its game companies in general, they all do it. If what you are saying where to be true, there would be no competitive gaming scene anywhere. They just send them an email and a few days later they´l get one back stating yeah sure host your tournament. Also the physical product you purchase is your copy of starcraft, for playing that you don´t need a license, its hosting a prizepool tournament with sponsors and coverage that needs a license.
Also nobody even actually *owns* SC2 yet, its the beta.
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