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MadJack
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Peru357 Posts
May 27 2010 21:54 GMT
#1
http://us.blizzard.com/en-us/company/about/termsofuse-new.html

Dont know if this is old i just checked my bnet acc and it was there.

Check this part:

Additional License Limitations.
blah blah blah...You agree that you will not, under any circumstances:

C. use the Service for any "e-sports" or group competition sponsored, promoted or facilitated by any commercial or non-profit entity without Blizzard's prior written consent.

Im really sad that Blizzard is turning into a cashmachine instead of the great game makers that they used to be...

Your toughts, and keep it clean
이제동 화이팅! / http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=26jjD3ro-Xk /
iSTime
Profile Joined November 2006
1579 Posts
May 27 2010 22:00 GMT
#2
On May 28 2010 06:54 MadJack wrote:
http://us.blizzard.com/en-us/company/about/termsofuse-new.html

Dont know if this is old i just checked my bnet acc and it was there.

Check this part:

Additional License Limitations.
blah blah blah...You agree that you will not, under any circumstances:

C. use the Service for any "e-sports" or group competition sponsored, promoted or facilitated by any commercial or non-profit entity without Blizzard's prior written consent.

Im really sad that Blizzard is turning into a cashmachine instead of the great game makers that they used to be...

Your toughts, and keep it clean


How dare blizzard try to profit from their amazing games!

The more money blizzard is able to make from SC2 being a successful e-sport the more likely they are to put more effort into designing, balancing, supporting, etc. SC2 and any other RTS they make in the future.
www.infinityseven.net
iloahz
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
United States964 Posts
May 27 2010 22:00 GMT
#3
"any" group competition? Like say we have a little competition with 3 people inside our own house we gotta have Blizzard's written consent?
Grebliv
Profile Joined May 2006
Iceland800 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-27 22:01:46
May 27 2010 22:00 GMT
#4
got to get blizzard to sanction your local lans :D, or basement lan for that matter now that I read it again.
ESV Mapmaking!
Redmark
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada2129 Posts
May 27 2010 22:02 GMT
#5
On May 28 2010 07:00 iloahz wrote:
"any" group competition? Like say we have a little competition with 3 people inside our own house we gotta have Blizzard's written consent?

Only if you're sponsored, I think. That's what it says.
nevz
Profile Joined October 2008
Sweden72 Posts
May 27 2010 22:02 GMT
#6
On May 28 2010 07:00 iloahz wrote:
"any" group competition? Like say we have a little competition with 3 people inside our own house we gotta have Blizzard's written consent?


If you're "sponsored, promoted or facilitated by any commercial or non-profit entity", then yes.

As the massive capitalist scum I am, I love the way blizzard is handling this.
LaSt)ChAnCe
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States2179 Posts
May 27 2010 22:03 GMT
#7
Great game makers have bills, too. They aren't going to be douchebags about this... "Hey Blizzrad can I hold a tournament at my school tomorrow? Blizzard:"Go ahead, have fun!"
Grebliv
Profile Joined May 2006
Iceland800 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-27 22:06:31
May 27 2010 22:03 GMT
#8
On May 28 2010 07:02 Redmark wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 28 2010 07:00 iloahz wrote:
"any" group competition? Like say we have a little competition with 3 people inside our own house we gotta have Blizzard's written consent?

Only if you're sponsored, I think. That's what it says.


sponsored, promoted or facilitated

not that they're going to stop you but they seem to want the legal rights to.

haha this isn't just lan
If you enter a tournament you need blizzards written consent!

they can only sue like well everyone that has entered an online tourney for sc2beta since this got implimented into the tos
ESV Mapmaking!
IrT4nkz
Profile Joined May 2010
229 Posts
May 27 2010 22:03 GMT
#9
Commercial or non-profit entity

Does this mean any in-house competitions by teams or something has to go through Blizzard? :|
wanderer
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States641 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-27 22:05:08
May 27 2010 22:04 GMT
#10
Does this mean that everybody who wants to have a tournament for SC2 require a piece of paper saying that Blizzard is okay with it?

If so, there goes the grassroots method of popularity for sure. The lack of LAN was a bad sign but I think that this would seal the deal on that.
Fuck you, I have a degree in mathematics and I speak 12 languages. (I called the World Cup final in 2008 btw)
Molybdenum
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States358 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-27 22:08:42
May 27 2010 22:05 GMT
#11
Ehh... I'm not sure how I feel about this one. It's their game, but hopefully they aren't too restrictive.

Hopefully Blizzard will just give consent with the bigger tournaments (TSL) and not mind too much about some of the smaller ones (TLI, GLHF). I think if SC2 is to really take off like BW did, it will be important to have these smaller scale tournaments not getting crushed by Blizzard

On May 28 2010 07:00 Grebliv wrote:
got to get blizzard to sanction your local lans :D, or basement lan for that matter now that I read it again.


There is no LAN... At least a semi LAN (go to b.net first, then can LAN) would be great though, especially for the small get-togethers that made BW so much fun.
Grebliv
Profile Joined May 2006
Iceland800 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-27 22:09:00
May 27 2010 22:08 GMT
#12
On May 28 2010 07:05 Molybdenum wrote:
Ehh... I'm not sure how I feel about this one. It's their game, but hopefully they aren't too restrictive.

Hopefully Blizzard will just give consent with the bigger tournaments (TSL) and not mind too much about some of the smaller ones (TLI, GLHF). I think if SC2 is to really take off like BW did, it will be important to have these smaller scale tournaments not getting crushed by Blizzard

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On May 28 2010 07:00 Grebliv wrote:
got to get blizzard to sanction your local lans :D, or basement lan for that matter now that I read it again.


There is no LAN... But there should be. At least a semi LAN (go to b.net first, then can LAN) would be great.


guess that hasn't sunk in yet.

not that lan has anything to do with it anyways, you apparently can't even enter the 100$ zotacs now without a little note from blizzard saying you can go. Well I guess zotac getting the note would be enough but :S
ESV Mapmaking!
R1CH
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Netherlands10342 Posts
May 27 2010 22:09 GMT
#13
On May 28 2010 07:03 IrT4nkz wrote:
Commercial or non-profit entity

Does this mean any in-house competitions by teams or something has to go through Blizzard? :|

Legally, non-profit is a type of business where the profit is invested back into the business or something like that. It doesn't mean anyone not making a profit.
AdministratorTwitter: @R1CH_TL
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Destro
Profile Joined September 2009
Netherlands1206 Posts
May 27 2010 22:11 GMT
#14
i think this is just to cover loop holes kespa might try and jump through ;p

im not bothered by it, if they wanted to shut down tournaments they would have done so by now. Any talk about current tournaments in beta blizzard has been really happy and surprised with it.

Also, keep in mind... these ToS's are written by lawyers covering bases, not blizzard handing down commandments to be ruthlessly upheld.
bring back weapon of choice for hots!
Shizuru~
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Malaysia1676 Posts
May 27 2010 22:11 GMT
#15
On May 28 2010 06:54 MadJack wrote:
http://us.blizzard.com/en-us/company/about/termsofuse-new.html

Dont know if this is old i just checked my bnet acc and it was there.

Check this part:

Additional License Limitations.
blah blah blah...You agree that you will not, under any circumstances:

C. use the Service for any "e-sports" or group competition sponsored, promoted or facilitated by any commercial or non-profit entity without Blizzard's prior written consent.

Im really sad that Blizzard is turning into a cashmachine instead of the great game makers that they used to be...

Your toughts, and keep it clean


i really do not understand where this mentality of Blizzard is doing this for milking cash off the E-Sport community comes from...

Korynne
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada990 Posts
May 27 2010 22:13 GMT
#16
Sounds rather strict, perhaps they can put a cap on the prize money in tournaments they do not sanction? Running a small $50 tournament for fun is one thing, having progamers who make a career out of this is vastly different.

The problem I see with that though is that they could use loopholes and let each match be considered a tournament and then give them money a little at a time? Who knows, if I was Blizzard I would probably be too freaked about loopholes to allow tournaments of less than $X to occur without requiring sanction.
TL Mawfyah~ http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
Keyser
Profile Joined May 2010
102 Posts
May 27 2010 22:14 GMT
#17
It's simple really. Blizzard has seen the future and are grabbing e-sports by the balls. They probably won't bother small tournaments but this is their way to get a piece of the e-sports pie. From a business perspective, doing anything else at this point in time would be madness.
MadJack
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Peru357 Posts
May 27 2010 22:15 GMT
#18
On May 28 2010 07:00 PJA wrote:
How dare blizzard try to profit from their amazing games!


"C. use the Service for any "e-sports" or group competition sponsored, promoted or facilitated by any commercial or non-profit entity without Blizzard's prior written consent."

In other words, sites like teamliquid are in the OBLIGATION to ask for permission to make a tournament even if there is no prize money and stuff.

So care, if Blizzard doesnt wants to, there wont be a next TSL.
이제동 화이팅! / http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=26jjD3ro-Xk /
FreshNoThyme
Profile Joined March 2008
United States356 Posts
May 27 2010 22:16 GMT
#19
I know a lot of people will give me shit, but I am in the group that believes they are doing the right thing, and I support them. I definitely enjoy what the SCBW scene has become, but they (KESPA and other organizations) are making a massive profit off of a game they did not create, nor have the right to use without permission. Yes, they market the pro-gaming scene, pay for all of the expenses, and have created something out of very little (turning a single video-game into a niche culture), but in reality, it would not have existed without SC, and the LEAST they could do is attempt to work out a fair deal and receive legal consent.
Keyser
Profile Joined May 2010
102 Posts
May 27 2010 22:17 GMT
#20
On May 28 2010 07:15 MadJack wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 28 2010 07:00 PJA wrote:
How dare blizzard try to profit from their amazing games!


"C. use the Service for any "e-sports" or group competition sponsored, promoted or facilitated by any commercial or non-profit entity without Blizzard's prior written consent."

In other words, sites like teamliquid are in the OBLIGATION to ask for permission to make a tournament even if there is no prize money and stuff.

So care, if Blizzard doesnt wants to, there wont be a next TSL.


I doubt TL could be classified as a non-profit entity unless it is charging for something I am not aware of. It's a legal term that doesn't really mean exactly how it sounds.
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