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On June 01 2010 09:42 Opinion wrote:Show nested quote +On June 01 2010 09:34 Brokengamer wrote:
I suggest you look at the tournaments yourself.
Protoss has never dominated at high levels of play after the warp gate nerfs. Terran players are starting to catch up to Protoss in terms of wins very fast, especially since Terrans have learned that MMM bioball is not the best strat.
Zerg, however, has dominated since day 1 and is continuing to dominate.
Protosses Whitera, Nani, Tester? I think those guys dominated alot of tournaments dont they? We don't need examples of Protoss winning tournaments at the pro level. What we need is anecdotal evidence of Terran dominating with little or nothing that can be done to stop them. And please... No replays, only theorycrafting and exaggerations. That way we keep the thread going in a snow ball of denial and excuses.
Best post in tl history.
We get it, you guys are having trouble with the matchup. Get over it. Where are the high level Protoss players to back you up? Oh right, they are too busy winning tournaments against Terran to post in this ridiculous thread.
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On June 01 2010 09:42 Opinion wrote:
What we need is anecdotal evidence of Terran dominating with little or nothing that can be done to stop them.
You set a request that is so far fetched that of course it will probably never be satisfied. If the game was such in a way imbalanced that "terran dominated with little to nothing to stop them", then these 13 patches would be fruitless and made by incompetents don't you agree? That's the same as asking for us to find you a reply where terran is invincible. No one is saying Terran is invincible, just harder to beat than the other races, which makes it imbalanced. No race should be harder or easier, and require more or less skill than the others to beat. If the game was balanced, which is the point, then winning a game would only depend on the diffrence of the player's skill and perhaps luck.
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The Problem is that most players are going for big clashes atm, and that's a win for a terran with tanks / ghost + anything.
Stop doing that and try to out multi task him, play more sc1 style
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i just wanted to chime in that DT or HT are my biggest headaches when I play TvP. Rushing DT is pretty much a surefire way to secure an expansion while denying your opponents.
and storm is just crazy
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On June 01 2010 20:05 Duelist wrote:Show nested quote +On June 01 2010 09:42 Opinion wrote:
What we need is anecdotal evidence of Terran dominating with little or nothing that can be done to stop them. You set a request that is so far fetched that of course it will probably never be satisfied. If the game was such in a way imbalanced that "terran dominated with little to nothing to stop them", then these 13 patches would be fruitless and made by incompetents don't you agree? That's the same as asking for us to find you a reply where terran is invincible. No one is saying Terran is invincible, just harder to beat than the other races, which makes it imbalanced. No race should be harder or easier, and require more or less skill than the others to beat. If the game was balanced, which is the point, then winning a game would only depend on the diffrence of the player's skill and perhaps luck.
you are just pulliing facts out of your ass, its hard to play tvp for terran as well, there are many possible cheeses, vrs are always a nigtmare, toss has map control, storm anal rapes bio, P can see your army comming due the obs, reposition and easily be praperad for push, terran needs to pay attention on every step 1 emp too late and you whole army dies under few storms. Sitting at natural and turtling is no way overpowered toss easily can take whole map and tech to whatever he wants then flood you with waves of limits, who cares it dies if you can build next army asap. Its the way it looked in sc bw and nobody cried but now wave of newcomers from other games who have no idea how to play rts complain and make ridiculous topics even thought everything proves otherwise(look on tournament results or tvp win rotio).
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On June 01 2010 20:05 Duelist wrote:Show nested quote +On June 01 2010 09:42 Opinion wrote:
We don't need examples of Protoss winning tournaments at the pro level.
What we need is anecdotal evidence of Terran dominating with little or nothing that can be done to stop them.
And please... No replays, only theorycrafting and exaggerations.
That way we keep the thread going in a snow ball of denial and excuses. You set a request that is so far fetched that of course it will probably never be satisfied. If the game was such in a way imbalanced that "terran dominated with little to nothing to stop them", then these 13 patches would be fruitless and made by incompetents don't you agree? That's the same as asking for us to find you a reply where terran is invincible. No one is saying Terran is invincible, just harder to beat than the other races, which makes it imbalanced. No race should be harder or easier, and require more or less skill than the others to beat. If the game was balanced, which is the point, then winning a game would only depend on the diffrence of the player's skill and perhaps luck.
Lol!!! Did you notice the sarcasm in Opinion's post?
Worst SC2 PvT thread ever. Mods please save us or this thread will forever get bumped! Great post btw Opinion.
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On June 01 2010 21:17 Cashout wrote:you are just pulliing facts out of your ass, its hard to play tvp for terran as well, there are many possible cheeses, Yeah because fast marauder is not cheese, fast reaper is no cheese they're imba deep strats yo.On June 01 2010 21:17 Cashout wrote: vrs are always a nigtmare, VRs are kicked by Vikings, and a handful of marines destroy uncharged VRs as well. Plus VRs are T2 units whereas marines are T1 and you can get twice as fast vikings due to reactor mechanism.On June 01 2010 21:17 Cashout wrote: toss has map control, Where the fuck do you take that from ? Map control is very game specific. There's no such thing as "Z/P/T has map control every game over Z/P/T". T has the best defences in game, actually. If anyone can have map control, it's T since it can siege anywhere and no one can do shit about it.On June 01 2010 21:17 Cashout wrote: storm anal rapes bio, From which you can go away in a matter of second with stim. EMP is instant and actually does MORE damage PLUS renders sentries, HTs and Phoenixes completely useless.On June 01 2010 21:17 Cashout wrote: P can see your army comming due the obs, What a fucking joke, ever heard of sensor towers ? You can't do shit about them and T can see you coming from like a freaking billion miles away. Once he sees his map pinging he's just gotta throw a scan to see exactly what you have and what your goal is. Oh wait, that's too much attention needed. Right, Terran just has to siege up put turrets, queue everything, afk, come back, and steamroll.
You're just telling dumbshit.
You people are taking Terrans as dumb computer AI. Terran players have a brain, too. The thing is only that Protoss has NO REAL COUNTER to anything Terran can throw at you, whereas EVERY freaking Protoss unit is hard countered by virtually ANY terran unit.
Simple maths,
Terran ground > Protoss ground by a huge margin.
Terran air > Protoss air by a huge margin.
Terran > Protoss.
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this thread is becoming excellent ban bait, and i couldn't do that to you guys.
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well maybe just a few won't hurt
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