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DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
December 23 2009 01:29 GMT
#61
oh my god i'm laughing so hard at this thread

thanks for cheering me up while im sick op
RIP Aaliyah
Broodie
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Canada832 Posts
December 23 2009 01:29 GMT
#62
Ababmer... Have you played starcraft?

we're not getting banned cause we're defending a game that is meant to be played with clicks AND there is a RTB function

it's called ctrl-1/2 - click base, why the hell wouldnt you be watching units anyways?!

and if you dont like "click click" then dont play starcraft, go play halo wars, games are made to be played how theyre made, if you dont like it then dont play it perhaps?

I'm not flaming you I'm being literal and just, you're complaints underline you're anger because you can't win at a game that takes skill and for the most part "click clicks"

you may win at "Click - leave computer to grab a snack - click - dance" world of warcraft

with me being a WoW noob, I could right now go on my friends WoW account as a level 80 w/e and defeat a noob, or even a lvl 50-60 with ease. because it's all materialistic in game collectors values that take R'tards months to collect, nothing is measured on skill.

Starcraft takes practice and dedication, I can't go on a buddies account who is A- iccup and beat a guy who's C+ iccup, it's impossible because ***It takes skill to play starcraft***

conform or gtfo

agreed? the moral of this reply is:

don't play sc if you can't handle it, Blizzard is not fail, this thread and you are fail.
sorry in advance but this thread really pissed me off haha
SilentLiquid.Broodie - Author of Tango Terminal, Ophilia RE, Cajun Quandary, & The Beneath
ToyotaDemon
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Australia150 Posts
December 23 2009 01:30 GMT
#63
LOL Idra replied to the OP in that battle.net thread hahaha ;D
rawr
Zergneedsfood
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10671 Posts
December 23 2009 01:31 GMT
#64
I discuss all your points rational but you still insult where i do not insult back? Why do you disrespect so much?

Let please us meet up in real life. Where do you want to meet?


It's posts like that that sort of reek of hypocrisy.

And then again, you don't discuss the points. There are at least five members of TL who would have debated your point but you failed to address them.

Then you go off on a tangent about how things like "*sigh*" and *stutter* are insulting to you....when back on some random B.net forum you say "TL is the best fun I've had in a while".

That's what makes you not rational. That's what makes you a less respected person, not only here, but in real life, and that's what makes people on here, mad at trolls.

I'm guessing half of the people on this site could easily whoops your ass at Starcraft....as well as the "squeal", regardless of any of these new add-ons. Just because you envy the immense skills of someone else doesn't give you the right to flame them.

This community deserves respect, and your idiocy and lack of skills makes YOU a nerd, not everyone on this board.

/人◕ ‿‿ ◕人\ Make a contract with me and join TLADT | Onodera isn't actually a girl, she's just a doormat you walk over to get to the girl. - Numy 2015
IskatuMesk
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Canada969 Posts
December 23 2009 01:32 GMT
#65
On December 23 2009 10:17 Ababmer wrote:
HOW ABOUT THIS THEN? How ABOUT ANYONE WHO WANTS TO FLAME CAN AGREE TO MEET IN REAL LIFE AND I BEAT THEIR SKINNY BODY TO THE GROUND? YOU ARE NOT SO CONFIDENT WHEN IN REAL WORLDS, YOU DONT EVEN LOOK PEOPLES EYES I AM SURE. zergneedsfood lets meet up in real life and sort this out properly please?


I don't know about you guys, but I burst into hysterical laughter when I read this. I am not even quite sure where this came from.
seRapH
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9830 Posts
December 23 2009 01:33 GMT
#66
On December 23 2009 10:31 Zergneedsfood wrote:
Show nested quote +
I discuss all your points rational but you still insult where i do not insult back? Why do you disrespect so much?

Let please us meet up in real life. Where do you want to meet?


It's posts like that that sort of reek of hypocrisy.

And then again, you don't discuss the points. There are at least five members of TL who would have debated your point but you failed to address them.

Then you go off on a tangent about how things like "*sigh*" and *stutter* are insulting to you....when back on some random B.net forum you say "TL is the best fun I've had in a while".

That's what makes you not rational. That's what makes you a less respected person, not only here, but in real life, and that's what makes people on here, mad at trolls.

I'm guessing half of the people on this site could easily whoops your ass at Starcraft....as well as the "squeal", regardless of any of these new add-ons. Just because you envy the immense skills of someone else doesn't give you the right to flame them.

This community deserves respect, and your idiocy and lack of skills makes YOU a nerd, not everyone on this board.


i'm happy that i havent exited just yet because of this response.

you even mention the battlenet thread :D
you might want to reread that
boomer hands
Zergneedsfood
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10671 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-23 01:42:43
December 23 2009 01:37 GMT
#67
I know. xDDD

I guess I sort of just wanted to say something. I feel really riled up when people do this...it sort of makes me sad.

It's just that this community DOES deserve respect. I came here because I heard this was like...the coolest site to get help for your play. People coming here just to piss people off is stupid and fucked up.
/人◕ ‿‿ ◕人\ Make a contract with me and join TLADT | Onodera isn't actually a girl, she's just a doormat you walk over to get to the girl. - Numy 2015
CrimsonLotus
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Colombia1123 Posts
December 23 2009 01:49 GMT
#68
On December 23 2009 09:05 Zergneedsfood wrote:
Gamers need to learn that games are supposed to be challenging and not easy to win.


Wait, what?

How can you say that gamesneed to be challenging?

A game only needs to be fun, everything else is just an extra.

I think way too many people in this forum are too elitist in this regard.

A game that is only fun and not extremely competitive in every aspect? blasphemy!

To be honest, i don't think SCII should follow the path of games such as DoW II, because SC:BW appeals to a very niche group of gamers that would be lost without a proper secuel to SC, but such as dismissive and snobish attitude annoys me to no end.

It's a game people, a game...

/Rant.
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TwilightStar
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States649 Posts
December 23 2009 01:56 GMT
#69
On December 23 2009 08:56 Ababmer wrote:
It would be a shame if a metre for judging player skill had to remain so archaic, there are other meanas of judging skill see world of warcraft.


Did you really just use "skill" and "world of warcraft" in the same sentence?

Seriously...?

That's fail.
(5)Twilight Star.scx --------- AdmiralHoth: There was one week when I didn't shave for a month.
Mastermind
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Canada7096 Posts
December 23 2009 02:08 GMT
#70
On December 23 2009 10:30 ToyotaDemon wrote:
LOL Idra replied to the OP in that battle.net thread hahaha ;D

You really think idra posts on the bnet forums on a wc3 account? The 'idra' you are talking about is a piece of trash better known as ghetto_overlord.
hasuprotoss
Profile Blog Joined March 2004
United States4690 Posts
December 23 2009 02:15 GMT
#71
On December 23 2009 10:49 CrimsonLotus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2009 09:05 Zergneedsfood wrote:
Gamers need to learn that games are supposed to be challenging and not easy to win.


Wait, what?

How can you say that gamesneed to be challenging?

A game only needs to be fun, everything else is just an extra.

I think way too many people in this forum are too elitist in this regard.

A game that is only fun and not extremely competitive in every aspect? blasphemy!

To be honest, i don't think SCII should follow the path of games such as DoW II, because SC:BW appeals to a very niche group of gamers that would be lost without a proper secuel to SC, but such as dismissive and snobish attitude annoys me to no end.

It's a game people, a game...

/Rant.


I'm not 100% sure what exactly you're trying to say so I might be discussing something that you're not, but:

Basketball, football, American football, hockey, and basically every other sport can be played competitively or for fun. There is definitely a massive skill gap between me and Lebron James or Kobe Bryant, but that doesn't stop me from playing basketball for fun or competitively against people around my skill level.

So I guess what I'm trying to say is: most games have a competitive outlet, some just apply the gap between bad, good, and great a lot harsher (SC) than others (DoW, apparently) and neither is truly wrong.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?viewdays=0&show_part=5 <--- Articles Section on TL
520
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2822 Posts
December 23 2009 02:17 GMT
#72
I almost died laughing while reading this thread. LOL
Writer
Entertaining
Profile Joined September 2007
Canada793 Posts
December 23 2009 02:30 GMT
#73
11year olds are allowed to post on tl?
danieldrsa
Profile Joined June 2008
Brazil523 Posts
December 23 2009 02:42 GMT
#74
On December 23 2009 10:29 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
oh my god i'm laughing so hard at this thread

thanks for cheering me up while im sick op


same here

His arguments are so strong that im felling inclinated to ask NBA to lower the tables 1 meter so the mainstream ppl can dunk
-*-
Zergneedsfood
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10671 Posts
December 23 2009 02:43 GMT
#75
On December 23 2009 10:49 CrimsonLotus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2009 09:05 Zergneedsfood wrote:
Gamers need to learn that games are supposed to be challenging and not easy to win.


Wait, what?

How can you say that gamesneed to be challenging?

A game only needs to be fun, everything else is just an extra.

I think way too many people in this forum are too elitist in this regard.

A game that is only fun and not extremely competitive in every aspect? blasphemy!

To be honest, i don't think SCII should follow the path of games such as DoW II, because SC:BW appeals to a very niche group of gamers that would be lost without a proper secuel to SC, but such as dismissive and snobish attitude annoys me to no end.

It's a game people, a game...

/Rant.


Well, I guess the word was used a bit loosely.

But why do we get bored of games?

They're not "challenging" anymore...or "they're not fun". I guess what I'm trying to say that many times, challenging games adds to that level of fun.

But mieh. This thread is essentially over.
/人◕ ‿‿ ◕人\ Make a contract with me and join TLADT | Onodera isn't actually a girl, she's just a doormat you walk over to get to the girl. - Numy 2015
Sentient66
Profile Joined July 2009
United States651 Posts
December 23 2009 02:45 GMT
#76
On December 23 2009 08:56 Ababmer wrote:
I think a fall back feature for your units would be a very good idea because it means that players ultimatley are not judged by how fast or how many orders they give, but how gooder strategitions they are.

If you can click button to make selected units retreat to base then you can focus your mind on more fun things like playing the game other than clicking lots and lots.

I know lots of clicking is somehow prime focus for e-sports, but games have moved on now, boring, monotonus tasks may be a good judge of player strength, but a game that cannot find a fun means to build strength upon is not a very good squeal

It would be a shame if a metre for judging player skill had to remain so archaic, there are other meanas of judging skill see world of warcraft.



Why don't we add in unit formation buttons for your unlimited unit selection army as well? How about a "select idle worker" button too? In fact, let's also add an "A-move everything to your opponent's base" button. /sarcasm

Really, these mechanics would maybe work in UMS games for beginners only, but even then, it's a crutch for players who have super-low APM, and are too lazy to work on their mechanics enough to properly execute their chosen strategy. Yes, Starcraft is a STRATEGY game. But still, the other half of the game is developing the skill required to pull off your strategy. Having knowledge of strategy combined with mechanics and game sense is what makes Starcraft fun, challenging, and enjoyable for all players.
seNsiX.421
DefMatrixUltra
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada1992 Posts
December 23 2009 02:51 GMT
#77
>>Ababmer == HotBid
true
Chen
Profile Joined June 2009
United States6344 Posts
December 23 2009 02:57 GMT
#78
On December 23 2009 10:17 Ababmer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2009 10:06 majesty.k)seRapH wrote:
ababmer, you are flaming people who have been presenting rational arguments, and pointing out weaknesses in your own. rather than fixing your own platform, you just tell us to read your OP again as if there was something we missed.

starcraft is not a strategy game. starcraft is not a movie. starcraft is not a movie in which the player writes a script. starcraft is a real-time strategy game, where skill matters just as much as the actual strategy. lower tier players can go play with each other and have their even playing field there.


Why is everyone insult me when i come here and ONLY GIVE MY NICE opinion and arugment?

I flame? WHEN THEY ATTACK ATTACK ATTACK ME? I AM the one flaming now?

HOW ABOUT THIS THEN? How ABOUT ANYONE WHO WANTS TO FLAME CAN AGREE TO MEET IN REAL LIFE AND I BEAT THEIR SKINNY BODY TO THE GROUND? YOU ARE NOT SO CONFIDENT WHEN IN REAL WORLDS, YOU DONT EVEN LOOK PEOPLES EYES I AM SURE. zergneedsfood lets meet up in real life and sort this out properly please?

You people are so high horse high horse and sensative to any argument that as soon as i come along with nice idea you ATTACK. ATTACK ATTACK. I obey all the rules but you are all so self conscious about your GAME onlien that anyone who say argument against yor own world must be wrong.

SOrry guys, blizzard will make this game easier, blizzard will destroy your old features just like i would destory anyone who disrespetcs me like this in real life. Your old-school UI faults will be remmoved, your gameplay diluted and made easier. All for monetary gains you will see.


User was temp-banned for this post.

FINALLY. Go admins!
seRapH
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9830 Posts
December 23 2009 02:57 GMT
#79
On December 23 2009 11:51 DefMatrixUltra wrote:
>>Ababmer == HotBid
true


then the mystery is why would Hot_Bid ban himself?
boomer hands
SiDX
Profile Joined July 2009
New Zealand1975 Posts
December 23 2009 03:00 GMT
#80
lol epic
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