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[WCG] Korean Qualifiers - Round of 24 - Day 5 - Page 8

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d(O.o)a
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada5066 Posts
August 17 2009 05:21 GMT
#141
On August 17 2009 14:19 .risingdragoon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2009 14:11 SilverskY wrote:
On August 17 2009 14:06 .risingdragoon wrote:
a forward rax is suppose to lift off after it finishes or 1 marine and lift off

if you build more than that it's a proxy


Correct me if I'm wrong, but the term proxy and the term forward is defined by the location of the barracks in relation to your base and your opponents, not how many marines you make from it nor when you lift it off...

maybe in nonmirrors but not in tvt

recently very forward rax has becoming common in tvt for early & sustained scouting purposes, and a proxy is still an early attack


You can build a rax with the intention of it being a forward rax then see a vulnerability and build more marines that doesn't make it a proxy.
Hi.
tree.hugger
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
August 17 2009 05:21 GMT
#142
On August 17 2009 14:18 Avidkeystamper wrote:
[image loading]

Poll: Who did worse?
(Vote): Arisol
(Vote): Jwajwa


JwaJa actually got to make an expansion.
ModeratorEffOrt, Snow, GuMiho, and Team Liquid
SilverskY
Profile Joined September 2008
Korea (South)3086 Posts
August 17 2009 05:22 GMT
#143
On August 17 2009 14:21 tree.hugger wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2009 14:18 Avidkeystamper wrote:
[image loading]

Poll: Who did worse?
(Vote): Arisol
(Vote): Jwajwa


JwaJa actually got to make an expansion.

Jwaja actually lasted longer than single-digit minutes.
Graphics
n3gative
Profile Joined May 2009
Canada369 Posts
August 17 2009 05:23 GMT
#144
after that rape, arisol will never play starcraft again.
Roffles *
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Pitcairn19291 Posts
August 17 2009 05:23 GMT
#145
I dunno, I thought him being down 120 to 35 in supply was pretty bad from Jwaja
God Bless
jello24
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada327 Posts
August 17 2009 05:23 GMT
#146
wow the difference in class is amazing... fantasy defended that early aggression with ease...
just lurking around...
Husky
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3362 Posts
August 17 2009 05:24 GMT
#147
On August 17 2009 14:22 SilverskY wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2009 14:21 tree.hugger wrote:
On August 17 2009 14:18 Avidkeystamper wrote:
[image loading]

Poll: Who did worse?
(Vote): Arisol
(Vote): Jwajwa


JwaJa actually got to make an expansion.

Jwaja actually lasted longer than single-digit minutes.


On top of that his name is 350% cooler than arisol.

Jwaja fighting
Commentaries: youtube.com/HuskyStarcraft
.risingdragoon
Profile Joined January 2008
United States3021 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-17 05:31:34
August 17 2009 05:24 GMT
#148
On August 17 2009 14:21 d(O.o)a wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2009 14:19 .risingdragoon wrote:
On August 17 2009 14:11 SilverskY wrote:
On August 17 2009 14:06 .risingdragoon wrote:
a forward rax is suppose to lift off after it finishes or 1 marine and lift off

if you build more than that it's a proxy


Correct me if I'm wrong, but the term proxy and the term forward is defined by the location of the barracks in relation to your base and your opponents, not how many marines you make from it nor when you lift it off...

maybe in nonmirrors but not in tvt

recently very forward rax has becoming common in tvt for early & sustained scouting purposes, and a proxy is still an early attack


You can build a rax with the intention of it being a forward rax then see a vulnerability and build more marines that doesn't make it a proxy.

don't think we're calling about the samething???

I'll call it proxy scouting rax then, cus that's what happened. one guy was scouting the other was proxying
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QuakerOats
Profile Joined April 2009
United States1024 Posts
August 17 2009 05:25 GMT
#149
Jwaja actually did pretty well in the second game. Until he decided to suicide his entire army into Flash's defenses. This guy just got owned hard.
Roffles *
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Pitcairn19291 Posts
August 17 2009 05:27 GMT
#150
On side note, the number of idiots and people who cannot read on Livestream chats is quite disturbing. Plus, the influx of chinese viewers today was pretty annoying, especially since they kept on getting the chat disabled.
God Bless
calvinL
Profile Joined October 2007
Canada416 Posts
August 17 2009 05:29 GMT
#151
On August 17 2009 14:24 .risingdragoon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2009 14:21 d(O.o)a wrote:
On August 17 2009 14:19 .risingdragoon wrote:
On August 17 2009 14:11 SilverskY wrote:
On August 17 2009 14:06 .risingdragoon wrote:
a forward rax is suppose to lift off after it finishes or 1 marine and lift off

if you build more than that it's a proxy


Correct me if I'm wrong, but the term proxy and the term forward is defined by the location of the barracks in relation to your base and your opponents, not how many marines you make from it nor when you lift it off...

maybe in nonmirrors but not in tvt

recently very forward rax has becoming common in tvt for early & sustained scouting purposes, and a proxy is still an early attack


You can build a rax with the intention of it being a forward rax then see a vulnerability and build more marines that doesn't make it a proxy.

???


Player A makes forward rax, sees player B going 14cc, obviously player A is gonna make more than 1 marine
BlackMagister
Profile Joined October 2008
United States5834 Posts
August 17 2009 05:55 GMT
#152
I was hoping for an epic set between Yarnc and Sea but according the spoiler results the games were very disappointing. Fantasy vs newguy wasn't expected to be a good set.

How exactly are players picked for WCG qualifiers? Do these no name players go through offline qualifiers or picked out of a hat? If there were more qualifying matches I would think these players who have never played a PL game would not qualify.
motbob
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States12546 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-17 06:02:51
August 17 2009 05:57 GMT
#153
On August 17 2009 14:55 BlackMagister wrote:
I was hoping for an epic set between Yarnc and Sea but according the spoiler results the games were very disappointing. Fantasy vs newguy wasn't expected to be a good set.

How exactly are players picked for WCG qualifiers? Do these no name players go through offline qualifiers or picked out of a hat? If there were more qualifying matches I would think these players who have never played a PL game would not qualify.

I think it's

- top 4 last qualifier
- whoever is left from the top of Kespa rank

EDIT: that can't be right since Sea was in the qualifiers...
ModeratorGood content always wins.
BlackMagister
Profile Joined October 2008
United States5834 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-17 07:40:08
August 17 2009 07:39 GMT
#154
So ArisoL was at the top of the kespa ranking with his zero kespa sanctioned game record before his games vs Fantasy? Do they count no games played as a 100% win rate?
motbob
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States12546 Posts
August 17 2009 07:40 GMT
#155
On August 17 2009 16:39 BlackMagister wrote:
So ArisoL was at the top of the kespa ranking with his zero kespa sanctioned game record before his games vs Fantasy? Do they count no games played as a 100% win rate?

Oh, they had amateur qualifiers as well for 4 slots.
ModeratorGood content always wins.
Nick_54
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States2230 Posts
August 17 2009 08:03 GMT
#156
On August 17 2009 14:55 BlackMagister wrote:
I was hoping for an epic set between Yarnc and Sea but according the spoiler results the games were very disappointing. Fantasy vs newguy wasn't expected to be a good set.

How exactly are players picked for WCG qualifiers? Do these no name players go through offline qualifiers or picked out of a hat? If there were more qualifying matches I would think these players who have never played a PL game would not qualify.


KESPA 1-2 (Bisu, Jaedong), Luxury (defending wcg world champion), and Stork(wcg world runner up all get bye weeks

KESPA 3-6 (Flash, Leta, Fantasy, Jangbi) all get to play amatuer qualifiers

KESPA 7-24 have to play other players ranked 7-24.

This results in a ro16 bracket where bo3 series single elimination will decide who gets to move on.
SuperJongMan
Profile Blog Joined March 2003
Jamaica11586 Posts
August 17 2009 09:29 GMT
#157
Ok, when was Sea's last good game?
Feels like his play has been crap for quite some time.
POWER OVERWHELMING ! ! ! KRUU~ KRUU~
RaGe
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
Belgium9947 Posts
August 17 2009 13:04 GMT
#158
Sea
Moderatorsometimes I get intimidated by the size of my right testicle
StorrZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States13919 Posts
August 17 2009 13:24 GMT
#159
On August 17 2009 14:22 SilverskY wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2009 14:21 tree.hugger wrote:
On August 17 2009 14:18 Avidkeystamper wrote:
[image loading]

Poll: Who did worse?
(Vote): Arisol
(Vote): Jwajwa


JwaJa actually got to make an expansion.

Jwaja actually lasted longer than single-digit minutes.


god thats so pathetic that arisol failed proxyed 2 games
Hwaseung Oz fan for life. Swing out, always swing out.
foeffa
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Belgium2115 Posts
August 17 2009 13:37 GMT
#160
Poor Arisol. ^^
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