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Avidkeystamper
United States8556 Posts
Jaedong dropped the ball, unfortunately, but watching these games, I feel it's up to Fantasy to pull out more new strategies like tonight's or yesterday's tank hanbang because realistically, we all know how good Jaedong's play is in a Bo5, the variable is how good Fantasy's will be. + Show Spoiler + Fantasy you lame Cheeser!!:LRKL!K@:LFK Okay...a little frustrated. | ||
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SilverSkyLark
Philippines8437 Posts
damn can't belive jaedong got hyuked, best lost a macro game, sick series from both teams. | ||
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Musoeun
United States4324 Posts
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Avidkeystamper
United States8556 Posts
On August 09 2009 00:09 Musoeun wrote: What impressed me most about the fantasy cheese is that his build was insanely flexible. If he scouted an aggressive build he could easily have put down a depot to finish the wall. Sure he would have been behind, but he wouldn't have been forcing into a near-guaranteed fail all-in. Yeah, I was thinking about what would've happened if JD went mass lings for the heck of it, but that wouldn't have worked with the extra 3 marines from the 2nd rax and Fantasy could just block with SCVs. The only weakness I see is if Jaedong scouted the 2nd rax but Fantasy is unaware of this, and the 2 sunkens get up just in time while Fantasy is going for his "all-in". On the bright side, though PL won't start up for a long time, and All-Stars didn't have all stars, Oz is looking much better than at the end of the season. Oh, and I think Fantasy's style of new strategies works very well against JD, but he'll have to run out eventually, right? | ||
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ahkey
United States39 Posts
Good job SKT. | ||
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C[SCL]
Philippines576 Posts
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Husky
United States3362 Posts
Though, that does show how much OZ relies on Jaedong... and honestly, a team should not win the grand finals if they are basically one player. Hopefully Jaedong does well in the individual leagues, he really deserves it. Looking forward to the games, I'm just glad Oz didnt get 4-0'd again. | ||
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thinkzerg
Canada162 Posts
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clazziquai
6685 Posts
On August 09 2009 00:01 baqarah wrote: First time poster, long time reader. Hi all! First of all: Im a JD fan. I was so much for JD in this game and I DO feel robbed by fantasy. Why? Because of the great play of the rest of OZ. Everyone was like: "No way! SK will go 4-0!" When I saw JD vs Hyuk game I was sure that 4-0 was going to happen. Then there were those epic games by Backho and Lomo. I went like "Omgomgomgomgomg". Jaedong was 1 game away from redeeming his loss with Hyuk. If he had won with Fantasy, he would have faced Bisu for sure. Just imagine Bisu vs Jaedong Super Ace match! All the thrill, all the emotions. Everyone wondering: "Can JD pull his 2nd win after the humiliation by Hyuk?" or "Can Bisu stomp on JD so easily as in the 1st game?" The whole season coming down to a single clash of the titans. That would have been EPIC. Well, Fantasy being a great player as he is he went a brilliant cheese. FE, with some intentional loss of a marine or two near his wall. Cheese is not a forbidden strategy. All the pros are doing it (Bisu, Backho it this very match). Probably JD could have predicted the cheese (because of Bisu being next), but he could have also thought: "They probably want to make me tired, so hell go long exhausting macro game". Well, I feel bad because of this match. I wanted OZ to win (but my Liguid-bet was on SKT1  ). Epic match, could have been even more epic. Next season Oz with killer and perfectman will OWN SKT1 .Maybe if CJ played SKT proleague would have been very epic. I feel robbed by Oz. Great job SKT<3 | ||
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Nylan
United States795 Posts
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isbunk
Sweden1017 Posts
On August 09 2009 00:20 thinkzerg wrote: Any VOD's up yet? Ya, im uploading with ghostwriter-commentary in a thread, although there is a spoiler in the spoiler-covered screenshot, so dont click it if you dont want a 2-minute spoiler from the first game. No huge spoiler, but still a spoiler. Here is the thread anyways. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=99419 | ||
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Avidkeystamper
United States8556 Posts
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jtan
Sweden5891 Posts
On August 09 2009 00:20 thinkzerg wrote: Any VOD's up yet? edit: Game 1-4 are up in small vod thread http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=50875 | ||
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Debeli
Croatia93 Posts
On August 08 2009 23:43 pR0gR4m3R wrote: I mean, this is same case as happened with Flash about a year and a half ago, when everything into KTF was about Flash winning, and praise for other teammates to win another matches. KTF learnt the lesson and supported him with Luxury, and then forGG this season Well, forgg and lux aren't much of a support atm :/ | ||
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MoRe_mInErAls
Canada1210 Posts
 sAviOr never needed Proleague either. | ||
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StRyKeR
United States1739 Posts
now it's time for revenge revenge is SWEET KICK FANTASY'S ASS IN OSL | ||
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thinkzerg
Canada162 Posts
On August 09 2009 00:24 isbunk wrote: Ya, im uploading with ghostwriter-commentary in a thread, although there is a spoiler in the spoiler-covered screenshot, so dont click it if you dont want a 2-minute spoiler from the first game. No huge spoiler, but still a spoiler. Here is the thread anyways. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=99419 thank you sir. | ||
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Raidy
Japan87 Posts
However, I think that this is a bittersweet ending for Oz fans in the end. Yes, Oz lost, but did you see what happened with Lomo vs. Best? Did you see Killer's beautiful zergling play that led him to win a crucial match? Did you watch Backho execute that early cheese (and almost lose his advantage when he didn't do much after it :/)? Furthermore, did you see how far Hiya pushed Fantasy in his game? JD made a bad decision against Hyuk by going 12 hatch (he really didn't need an economic advantage like that .. it's Hyuk ffs), and he lost to Fantasy's great execution of the 2 rax opening, but for the first time I've ever seen, Jaedong was carried by his team tonight; it wasn't the other way around. I hope that this is a beginning of a shift from "Team Jaedong" to "Team Jaedong and Those Other Guys." Maybe I'm being too optimistic, though. Jaedong is still the ace of Oz. Saying that he's in a slump is unfair at this point. He's had a couple of bad days of Starcraft, but I can guarantee that every single pro on the scene has had them. | ||
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AtlaS
United States1001 Posts
On August 09 2009 00:20 thinkzerg wrote: Any VOD's up yet? Nevake on youtube has the first 5 matches of the 2nd day up right now. On average, he uploads one video every hour. | ||
MrHoon
10183 Posts
They really deserved it! And wow, how amazing. Just like the TLFE Tribal Colors predicted, the return of Boxer really saved the Team :D | ||
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