Stork, you coulda had it.
4 gas was running and you didn't need to take 6 sunkens of damage.
Ugh... so close to epic win.
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SuperJongMan
Jamaica11586 Posts
July 26 2009 08:15 GMT
#2441
Stork, you coulda had it. 4 gas was running and you didn't need to take 6 sunkens of damage. Ugh... so close to epic win. | ||
GoSu
Korea (South)1773 Posts
July 26 2009 08:16 GMT
#2442
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FabledIntegral
United States9232 Posts
July 26 2009 08:16 GMT
#2443
On July 26 2009 17:15 DM20 wrote: Show nested quote + On July 26 2009 17:14 unionbank wrote: sKyhigh > fantasy Iris > bisu Kwanro > best Effort > Hyuk I am foreseeing this in the mega finals They'd send Canata cause hes a fucking monster right now. Not over fantasy. The only person Canata could replace in that lineup imo is Best. | ||
Saracen
United States5139 Posts
July 26 2009 08:16 GMT
#2444
On July 26 2009 17:15 FabledIntegral wrote: Show nested quote + On July 26 2009 17:12 udgnim wrote: On July 26 2009 17:09 OneOther wrote: On July 26 2009 17:07 NicolBolas wrote: On July 26 2009 17:05 Lebesgue wrote: On July 26 2009 17:03 OneOther wrote: Why the FUCK did Stork suicide all his units at Effort's nat? All he needed to do was continue to control air with Corsairs and take more expos. Eventually add reavers. Why..why.. Seriously I dont undestand that at all. He was in control of the game and then he pulled out Kwanro style suiciding his whole army. Stork wasn't in control of anything when he suicided his army. Stork did that because it was his best play. Effort had just exploded with Ultralisks; if Stork didn't kill him at that moment, he was done. Well, technically, the moment to attack was 30-45 seconds before 8 Ultralisks popped out, but it was still his best play. He was losing/had lost, and that was all he had. Nope, not true. Stork just needed to defend his expos and eventually tear down the ultralisk herd, while denying extra expansions. He was doing well. Stork was definitely in control of air with his corsairs (kept making them too) and I have no idea why he did that. Just needed to start making reavers eventually. Effort was constantly downsizing Stork's corsair & dragoon numbers Not at all. Stork's unit combination sucked. You have no idea how fast ultraling RIPS APART a toss force unless there are lots of archons + high templar or reavers to back them up. Stork had none of those 3 (a few archons are hardly anything). Stork saw a timing window to attack before the ultralisks would pop and tried to hit it. He missed by about 20 seconds. Stork's midgame army composition was strong. It's only weak once Z gets hive as long as Z can keep up in macro, which is what Stork's sair harass was trying to prevent. | ||
ZeitgeistMovie
144 Posts
July 26 2009 08:16 GMT
#2445
Definitely very unusual play from Stork. Goons??? | ||
vlaric
United States412 Posts
July 26 2009 08:16 GMT
#2446
On July 26 2009 17:12 ZeitgeistMovie wrote: Show nested quote + On July 26 2009 17:10 Athos wrote: On July 26 2009 17:07 JWD wrote: On July 26 2009 17:05 ZeitgeistMovie wrote: Wow, I just realized that Stork didn't even use storm...not once. sair-goon: possibly the worst unit combination against defiler + ultraling Outsider is a tough map to PvZ on and obviously his opponent was ridiculous, but I think Stork played a pretty stupid game there (especially the bit where he decided to attack into Effort's nat) By that point he realized he needed to do some economic damage otherwise he would get rolled by ultralisks. However if he wanted to do that he should have probably gone in much earlier. But I can see what he was thinking, go in kill some drone and get out before the ultras spawn. By that point in the game desperation had already set in for stork. Overall a good game coming from him though. Why the hell did he go early mass goons is my question... Did it work in his other games or something? Aren't goons suppose to be supported by reavers? It was wierd play by stork. He didn't even have storms for christ sake. I'm guessing he was trying to do something similar to Movie's goon build that is designed to beat 3hat muta-->5 hat hydra. However it seems in this case Effort was able to scout it and react appropriately. | ||
infinity21
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Canada6683 Posts
July 26 2009 08:17 GMT
#2447
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OneOther
United States10774 Posts
July 26 2009 08:17 GMT
#2448
On July 26 2009 17:15 FabledIntegral wrote: Show nested quote + On July 26 2009 17:12 udgnim wrote: On July 26 2009 17:09 OneOther wrote: On July 26 2009 17:07 NicolBolas wrote: On July 26 2009 17:05 Lebesgue wrote: On July 26 2009 17:03 OneOther wrote: Why the FUCK did Stork suicide all his units at Effort's nat? All he needed to do was continue to control air with Corsairs and take more expos. Eventually add reavers. Why..why.. Seriously I dont undestand that at all. He was in control of the game and then he pulled out Kwanro style suiciding his whole army. Stork wasn't in control of anything when he suicided his army. Stork did that because it was his best play. Effort had just exploded with Ultralisks; if Stork didn't kill him at that moment, he was done. Well, technically, the moment to attack was 30-45 seconds before 8 Ultralisks popped out, but it was still his best play. He was losing/had lost, and that was all he had. Nope, not true. Stork just needed to defend his expos and eventually tear down the ultralisk herd, while denying extra expansions. He was doing well. Stork was definitely in control of air with his corsairs (kept making them too) and I have no idea why he did that. Just needed to start making reavers eventually. Effort was constantly downsizing Stork's corsair & dragoon numbers Not at all. Stork's unit combination sucked. You have no idea how fast ultraling RIPS APART a toss force unless there are lots of archons + high templar or reavers to back them up. Stork had none of those 3 (a few archons are hardly anything). Stork saw a timing window to attack before the ultralisks would pop and tried to hit it. He missed by about 20 seconds. Uh I do have an idea. He just started mixing in DTs/Archons and desperately needed to hold the center. Yes, trying to kill the Zerg before Ultrasliks is a good attempt, but he should have retreated immediately after seeing Ultralisks/Defilers there. Keep killing overlords and deny drops with Corsairs, while adding Reavers. His army was large enough to hold his expansions with cannon support. Instead he decided to suicide | ||
DM20
Canada544 Posts
July 26 2009 08:17 GMT
#2449
On July 26 2009 17:16 FabledIntegral wrote: Show nested quote + On July 26 2009 17:15 DM20 wrote: On July 26 2009 17:14 unionbank wrote: sKyhigh > fantasy Iris > bisu Kwanro > best Effort > Hyuk I am foreseeing this in the mega finals They'd send Canata cause hes a fucking monster right now. Not over fantasy. The only person Canata could replace in that lineup imo is Best. Over Hyuk, the only zerg they are going to send is TheZerg. | ||
bearbuddy
3442 Posts
July 26 2009 08:17 GMT
#2450
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Baddieko
Singapore855 Posts
July 26 2009 08:17 GMT
#2451
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JWD
United States12607 Posts
July 26 2009 08:18 GMT
#2452
On July 26 2009 17:12 Hot_Bid wrote: Show nested quote + On July 26 2009 17:02 JWD wrote: I'm really shocked at the lack of celebration from CJ...one of the greatest comebacks in PL history and they're all straight-faced??? WTF? must be this business (-_-) 4-0 or 4-3, -_- we're in it to win it JWD!! they are all thinking about practice for hwaseung next round... won't be autowin just getting to ace against them haha, maybe this is the reason CJ is so good | ||
orcsmash
Canada319 Posts
July 26 2009 08:18 GMT
#2453
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ghostWriter
United States3302 Posts
July 26 2009 08:18 GMT
#2454
On July 26 2009 01:52 crucifix wrote: I'll suicide if CJ loses to KHAN. Super Ace match coming? EffOrt vs FBH/Stork ? good calls. | ||
Saracen
United States5139 Posts
July 26 2009 08:19 GMT
#2455
On July 26 2009 17:16 vlaric wrote: Show nested quote + On July 26 2009 17:12 ZeitgeistMovie wrote: On July 26 2009 17:10 Athos wrote: On July 26 2009 17:07 JWD wrote: On July 26 2009 17:05 ZeitgeistMovie wrote: Wow, I just realized that Stork didn't even use storm...not once. sair-goon: possibly the worst unit combination against defiler + ultraling Outsider is a tough map to PvZ on and obviously his opponent was ridiculous, but I think Stork played a pretty stupid game there (especially the bit where he decided to attack into Effort's nat) By that point he realized he needed to do some economic damage otherwise he would get rolled by ultralisks. However if he wanted to do that he should have probably gone in much earlier. But I can see what he was thinking, go in kill some drone and get out before the ultras spawn. By that point in the game desperation had already set in for stork. Overall a good game coming from him though. Why the hell did he go early mass goons is my question... Did it work in his other games or something? Aren't goons suppose to be supported by reavers? It was wierd play by stork. He didn't even have storms for christ sake. I'm guessing he was trying to do something similar to Movie's goon build that is designed to beat 3hat muta-->5 hat hydra. However it seems in this case Effort was able to scout it and react appropriately. I don't remember watching a game where Effort goes 5hatch hydra. | ||
Simple
United States801 Posts
July 26 2009 08:19 GMT
#2456
and by effort no less! | ||
SuperJongMan
Jamaica11586 Posts
July 26 2009 08:19 GMT
#2457
Until his inexplicable 1a2a3a, Stork played pretty flawless after a poor start. | ||
Grobyc
Canada18410 Posts
July 26 2009 08:19 GMT
#2458
On July 26 2009 17:12 The Storyteller wrote: Of course Coach Cho told Effort it wass okay to lose. It's Much who is going to be doing the dishes tonight, after all. I laughed so hard at this ahahhahahahahahahahaha | ||
alt.tday
United States180 Posts
July 26 2009 08:20 GMT
#2459
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CursOr
United States6335 Posts
July 26 2009 08:20 GMT
#2460
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