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Avidkeystamper
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States8556 Posts
March 27 2009 04:00 GMT
#161
On March 27 2009 12:53 p4NDemik wrote:
I would favor HiyA if we were talking about him going up against a team that relies on their Protoss.

However, that is not the case. HiyA is average to mediocre in TvT and TvZ and I doubt he would would get more than one win against CJ's Terran/Zerg lineup. Iris and sAviOr can easily take him. He is not a favorite against EffOrt. Against sKyHigh I would give him a 50/50 chance. He's a slight favorite against Memory and any other lesser players.

Most of HiyA's recent results = Protoss bashing. Not a lot of success against Terran and Zerg. There is no element of his vT and vZ play that makes him especially intimidating as far as CJ is concerned.

Well, the original post said that he would be the favorite against everyone except Savior and Iris and your post is almost identical (except the skihigh 50% chance), so I see no disagreement.
Jaedong
skronch
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States2717 Posts
March 27 2009 04:01 GMT
#162
On March 27 2009 12:54 Infinity.SkyLark wrote:
If SkyHigh or Lomo fails to take out Jaedong then no one can take Jaedong of his seat for an all kill.
what? lomo is on oz..
EternaLEnVy
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada513 Posts
March 27 2009 04:28 GMT
#163
Hiya has beaten Fantasy.
Hell in my head
p4NDemik
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States13896 Posts
March 27 2009 04:29 GMT
#164
On March 27 2009 13:00 Avidkeystamper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2009 12:53 p4NDemik wrote:
I would favor HiyA if we were talking about him going up against a team that relies on their Protoss.

However, that is not the case. HiyA is average to mediocre in TvT and TvZ and I doubt he would would get more than one win against CJ's Terran/Zerg lineup. Iris and sAviOr can easily take him. He is not a favorite against EffOrt. Against sKyHigh I would give him a 50/50 chance. He's a slight favorite against Memory and any other lesser players.

Most of HiyA's recent results = Protoss bashing. Not a lot of success against Terran and Zerg. There is no element of his vT and vZ play that makes him especially intimidating as far as CJ is concerned.

Well, the original post said that he would be the favorite against everyone except Savior and Iris and your post is almost identical (except the skihigh 50% chance), so I see no disagreement.

It did not mention EffOrt, who would facestomp HiyA if given the chance. He's easily the most overlooked and under appreciated player on CJ due to the remnants of misguided hope sAviOr fans have been holding up for so long now. Saying "he is the favorite against almost everyone except ..." and then listing 3 or 4 players really isn't saying much at all about him - if you can be taken out by 3 or 4 (or more in this case) players from the opposing team, you aren't a very big threat.
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Mooncat
Profile Joined October 2007
Germany1228 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-27 05:49:36
March 27 2009 05:47 GMT
#165
On March 27 2009 13:29 p4NDemik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2009 13:00 Avidkeystamper wrote:
On March 27 2009 12:53 p4NDemik wrote:
I would favor HiyA if we were talking about him going up against a team that relies on their Protoss.

However, that is not the case. HiyA is average to mediocre in TvT and TvZ and I doubt he would would get more than one win against CJ's Terran/Zerg lineup. Iris and sAviOr can easily take him. He is not a favorite against EffOrt. Against sKyHigh I would give him a 50/50 chance. He's a slight favorite against Memory and any other lesser players.

Most of HiyA's recent results = Protoss bashing. Not a lot of success against Terran and Zerg. There is no element of his vT and vZ play that makes him especially intimidating as far as CJ is concerned.

Well, the original post said that he would be the favorite against everyone except Savior and Iris and your post is almost identical (except the skihigh 50% chance), so I see no disagreement.

It did not mention EffOrt, who would facestomp HiyA if given the chance. He's easily the most overlooked and under appreciated player on CJ due to the remnants of misguided hope sAviOr fans have been holding up for so long now. Saying "he is the favorite against almost everyone except ..." and then listing 3 or 4 players really isn't saying much at all about him - if you can be taken out by 3 or 4 (or more in this case) players from the opposing team, you aren't a very big threat.


On the contrary, I think that sKyHigh is the most underestimated player. EffOrt has quite the fan base actually. sKyHigh on the other hand is only seen als the "cheesing sniper". What is it with you people? This kid is a rock solid player to say the very least. He just hasn't been playing that much lately.
"[Lee Young Ho] With this victory, you’ve risen to Bonjwa status."
Sixer
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States278 Posts
March 27 2009 06:58 GMT
#166
Am I missing something? This is tonight, right?
YO MAN~YOGA PARTY BABY
Atrioc
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States1865 Posts
March 27 2009 07:07 GMT
#167
On March 27 2009 15:58 Sixer wrote:
Am I missing something? This is tonight, right?


No its tomorrow night.

Tonight is Jaedong vs By.Hero in OSL Semis
Writerman what
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66358 Posts
March 27 2009 07:16 GMT
#168
On March 26 2009 18:03 Manit0u wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 26 2009 17:57 konadora wrote:
If Effort snipes Jaedong.. lawl.

But given Jaedong's ZvZ 79.4%... probably won't happen.


Just don't forget that ZvZ can be a tricky matchup... They're both very good in it and it might just boil down to pure luck/BO win.


Even after Hoejja vs Jaedong and Luxury vs Jaedong?
POGGERS
Sixer
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States278 Posts
March 27 2009 08:06 GMT
#169
On March 27 2009 16:07 Atrioc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2009 15:58 Sixer wrote:
Am I missing something? This is tonight, right?


No its tomorrow night.

Tonight is Jaedong vs By.Hero in OSL Semis


Wow okay, I saw this thread and was like O_O but? Thanks.
YO MAN~YOGA PARTY BABY
Harem
Profile Joined November 2007
United States11393 Posts
March 27 2009 08:16 GMT
#170
Hmm

According to http://www.scforall.com/news/news02.asp?mNum=n02&PageNo=1&where=&query=&sterm=&articleNum=882

If JD gets allkill or at least 3 wins then he becomes first person to break 100 wins in PL. :o
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keV.
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States3214 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-27 09:05:15
March 27 2009 08:58 GMT
#171
HiyA all kill.

This is his breakout moment, I can feel it.
"brevity is the soul of wit" - William Shakesman
rwong48
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States105 Posts
March 27 2009 09:28 GMT
#172
jaedong allkill = rly boring
anch
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States5457 Posts
March 27 2009 10:40 GMT
#173
Effort's pants should be wet after seeing by.hero's rape incident.
Djin)ftw(
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Germany3357 Posts
March 27 2009 11:35 GMT
#174
On March 27 2009 17:58 keV. wrote:
HiyA all kill.

This is his breakout moment, I can feel it.


why breakout? hiya did an allkill already afair. anyway, jaedong will get sniped by skyhigh, iris - or more epic - savior, but hiya will at least 3kill CJ. i can feel it
"jk CLG best mindgames using the baron to counterthrow" - boesthius
JohnColtrane
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Australia4813 Posts
March 27 2009 11:40 GMT
#175
On March 27 2009 19:40 anch wrote:
Effort's pants should be wet after seeing by.hero's rape incident.


maybe hes practising his T right now because i dont think Z has any chance against jd right now
HEY MEYT
EvoChamber
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
France2505 Posts
March 27 2009 11:55 GMT
#176
Forecast calls for pain...
That's not awful writing, DAMMIT. It's perfectly sensical english construction.
Qwertify
Profile Joined September 2008
United States2531 Posts
March 27 2009 15:17 GMT
#177
I have only one word for everyone on this thread ...
CJ Entusman #24
Qwertify
Profile Joined September 2008
United States2531 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-27 15:21:28
March 27 2009 15:17 GMT
#178
On March 28 2009 00:17 Qwertify wrote:
I have only one word for everyone on this thread ...


+ Show Spoiler +
KWAAAAAAAANNRRRRRROOOOOOOOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL!!!!!!!!!!!!!

CJ Entusman #24
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
March 27 2009 15:18 GMT
#179
Yes, Hiya is going to do so well because he got some 3kills and an all kill even though CJ has been doing it with different players ALL FUCKING SEASON.

You people have extremely short memories.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
p4NDemik
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States13896 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-27 15:24:05
March 27 2009 15:23 GMT
#180
On March 27 2009 19:40 anch wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
Effort's pants should be wet after seeing by.hero's rape incident.

Use the SPOILER.
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