• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 19:58
CEST 01:58
KST 08:58
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Serral wins EWC 202543Tournament Spotlight: FEL Cracow 202510Power Rank - Esports World Cup 202580RSL Season 1 - Final Week9[ASL19] Finals Recap: Standing Tall15
Community News
Weekly Cups (Jul 28-Aug 3): herO doubles up6LiuLi Cup - August 2025 Tournaments4[BSL 2025] H2 - Team Wars, Weeklies & SB Ladder10EWC 2025 - Replay Pack4Google Play ASL (Season 20) Announced62
StarCraft 2
General
RSL Revival patreon money discussion thread The GOAT ranking of GOAT rankings Official Ladder Map Pool Update (April 28, 2025) Weekly Cups (Jul 28-Aug 3): herO doubles up Clem Interview: "PvT is a bit insane right now"
Tourneys
LiuLi Cup - August 2025 Tournaments WardiTV Mondays RSL Season 2 Qualifier Links and Dates StarCraft Evolution League (SC Evo Biweekly) Global Tourney for College Students in September
Strategy
Custom Maps
External Content
Mutation # 485 Death from Below Mutation # 484 Magnetic Pull Mutation #239 Bad Weather Mutation # 483 Kill Bot Wars
Brood War
General
BW General Discussion StarCraft player reflex TE scores BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ StarCon Philadelphia Google Play ASL (Season 20) Announced
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues KCM 2025 Season 3 [ASL20] Online Qualifiers Day 2 [CSLPRO] It's CSLAN Season! - Last Chance
Strategy
Fighting Spirit mining rates [G] Mineral Boosting Simple Questions, Simple Answers Muta micro map competition
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Total Annihilation Server - TAForever Nintendo Switch Thread Beyond All Reason [MMORPG] Tree of Savior (Successor of Ragnarok)
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine US Politics Mega-thread The Games Industry And ATVI Russo-Ukrainian War Thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
INnoVation Fan Club SKT1 Classic Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Movie Discussion! Anime Discussion Thread [\m/] Heavy Metal Thread Korean Music Discussion
Sports
2024 - 2025 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Gtx660 graphics card replacement Installation of Windows 10 suck at "just a moment" Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
TeamLiquid Team Shirt On Sale The Automated Ban List
Blogs
[Girl blog} My fema…
artosisisthebest
Sharpening the Filtration…
frozenclaw
ASL S20 English Commentary…
namkraft
The Link Between Fitness and…
TrAiDoS
momentary artworks from des…
tankgirl
from making sc maps to makin…
Husyelt
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 672 users

[WL] FINALS: CJ vs OZ - Page 9

Forum Index > Brood War Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 7 8 9 10 11 136 Next
Avidkeystamper
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States8552 Posts
March 27 2009 04:00 GMT
#161
On March 27 2009 12:53 p4NDemik wrote:
I would favor HiyA if we were talking about him going up against a team that relies on their Protoss.

However, that is not the case. HiyA is average to mediocre in TvT and TvZ and I doubt he would would get more than one win against CJ's Terran/Zerg lineup. Iris and sAviOr can easily take him. He is not a favorite against EffOrt. Against sKyHigh I would give him a 50/50 chance. He's a slight favorite against Memory and any other lesser players.

Most of HiyA's recent results = Protoss bashing. Not a lot of success against Terran and Zerg. There is no element of his vT and vZ play that makes him especially intimidating as far as CJ is concerned.

Well, the original post said that he would be the favorite against everyone except Savior and Iris and your post is almost identical (except the skihigh 50% chance), so I see no disagreement.
Jaedong
skronch
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States2717 Posts
March 27 2009 04:01 GMT
#162
On March 27 2009 12:54 Infinity.SkyLark wrote:
If SkyHigh or Lomo fails to take out Jaedong then no one can take Jaedong of his seat for an all kill.
what? lomo is on oz..
EternaLEnVy
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada513 Posts
March 27 2009 04:28 GMT
#163
Hiya has beaten Fantasy.
Hell in my head
p4NDemik
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States13896 Posts
March 27 2009 04:29 GMT
#164
On March 27 2009 13:00 Avidkeystamper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2009 12:53 p4NDemik wrote:
I would favor HiyA if we were talking about him going up against a team that relies on their Protoss.

However, that is not the case. HiyA is average to mediocre in TvT and TvZ and I doubt he would would get more than one win against CJ's Terran/Zerg lineup. Iris and sAviOr can easily take him. He is not a favorite against EffOrt. Against sKyHigh I would give him a 50/50 chance. He's a slight favorite against Memory and any other lesser players.

Most of HiyA's recent results = Protoss bashing. Not a lot of success against Terran and Zerg. There is no element of his vT and vZ play that makes him especially intimidating as far as CJ is concerned.

Well, the original post said that he would be the favorite against everyone except Savior and Iris and your post is almost identical (except the skihigh 50% chance), so I see no disagreement.

It did not mention EffOrt, who would facestomp HiyA if given the chance. He's easily the most overlooked and under appreciated player on CJ due to the remnants of misguided hope sAviOr fans have been holding up for so long now. Saying "he is the favorite against almost everyone except ..." and then listing 3 or 4 players really isn't saying much at all about him - if you can be taken out by 3 or 4 (or more in this case) players from the opposing team, you aren't a very big threat.
Moderator
Mooncat
Profile Joined October 2007
Germany1228 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-27 05:49:36
March 27 2009 05:47 GMT
#165
On March 27 2009 13:29 p4NDemik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2009 13:00 Avidkeystamper wrote:
On March 27 2009 12:53 p4NDemik wrote:
I would favor HiyA if we were talking about him going up against a team that relies on their Protoss.

However, that is not the case. HiyA is average to mediocre in TvT and TvZ and I doubt he would would get more than one win against CJ's Terran/Zerg lineup. Iris and sAviOr can easily take him. He is not a favorite against EffOrt. Against sKyHigh I would give him a 50/50 chance. He's a slight favorite against Memory and any other lesser players.

Most of HiyA's recent results = Protoss bashing. Not a lot of success against Terran and Zerg. There is no element of his vT and vZ play that makes him especially intimidating as far as CJ is concerned.

Well, the original post said that he would be the favorite against everyone except Savior and Iris and your post is almost identical (except the skihigh 50% chance), so I see no disagreement.

It did not mention EffOrt, who would facestomp HiyA if given the chance. He's easily the most overlooked and under appreciated player on CJ due to the remnants of misguided hope sAviOr fans have been holding up for so long now. Saying "he is the favorite against almost everyone except ..." and then listing 3 or 4 players really isn't saying much at all about him - if you can be taken out by 3 or 4 (or more in this case) players from the opposing team, you aren't a very big threat.


On the contrary, I think that sKyHigh is the most underestimated player. EffOrt has quite the fan base actually. sKyHigh on the other hand is only seen als the "cheesing sniper". What is it with you people? This kid is a rock solid player to say the very least. He just hasn't been playing that much lately.
"[Lee Young Ho] With this victory, you’ve risen to Bonjwa status."
Sixer
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States278 Posts
March 27 2009 06:58 GMT
#166
Am I missing something? This is tonight, right?
YO MAN~YOGA PARTY BABY
Atrioc
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States1865 Posts
March 27 2009 07:07 GMT
#167
On March 27 2009 15:58 Sixer wrote:
Am I missing something? This is tonight, right?


No its tomorrow night.

Tonight is Jaedong vs By.Hero in OSL Semis
Writerman what
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66163 Posts
March 27 2009 07:16 GMT
#168
On March 26 2009 18:03 Manit0u wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 26 2009 17:57 konadora wrote:
If Effort snipes Jaedong.. lawl.

But given Jaedong's ZvZ 79.4%... probably won't happen.


Just don't forget that ZvZ can be a tricky matchup... They're both very good in it and it might just boil down to pure luck/BO win.


Even after Hoejja vs Jaedong and Luxury vs Jaedong?
POGGERS
Sixer
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States278 Posts
March 27 2009 08:06 GMT
#169
On March 27 2009 16:07 Atrioc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2009 15:58 Sixer wrote:
Am I missing something? This is tonight, right?


No its tomorrow night.

Tonight is Jaedong vs By.Hero in OSL Semis


Wow okay, I saw this thread and was like O_O but? Thanks.
YO MAN~YOGA PARTY BABY
Harem
Profile Joined November 2007
United States11390 Posts
March 27 2009 08:16 GMT
#170
Hmm

According to http://www.scforall.com/news/news02.asp?mNum=n02&PageNo=1&where=&query=&sterm=&articleNum=882

If JD gets allkill or at least 3 wins then he becomes first person to break 100 wins in PL. :o
Moderator。◕‿◕。
keV.
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States3214 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-27 09:05:15
March 27 2009 08:58 GMT
#171
HiyA all kill.

This is his breakout moment, I can feel it.
"brevity is the soul of wit" - William Shakesman
rwong48
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States105 Posts
March 27 2009 09:28 GMT
#172
jaedong allkill = rly boring
anch
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States5457 Posts
March 27 2009 10:40 GMT
#173
Effort's pants should be wet after seeing by.hero's rape incident.
Djin)ftw(
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Germany3357 Posts
March 27 2009 11:35 GMT
#174
On March 27 2009 17:58 keV. wrote:
HiyA all kill.

This is his breakout moment, I can feel it.


why breakout? hiya did an allkill already afair. anyway, jaedong will get sniped by skyhigh, iris - or more epic - savior, but hiya will at least 3kill CJ. i can feel it
"jk CLG best mindgames using the baron to counterthrow" - boesthius
JohnColtrane
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Australia4813 Posts
March 27 2009 11:40 GMT
#175
On March 27 2009 19:40 anch wrote:
Effort's pants should be wet after seeing by.hero's rape incident.


maybe hes practising his T right now because i dont think Z has any chance against jd right now
HEY MEYT
EvoChamber
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
France2505 Posts
March 27 2009 11:55 GMT
#176
Forecast calls for pain...
That's not awful writing, DAMMIT. It's perfectly sensical english construction.
Qwertify
Profile Joined September 2008
United States2531 Posts
March 27 2009 15:17 GMT
#177
I have only one word for everyone on this thread ...
CJ Entusman #24
Qwertify
Profile Joined September 2008
United States2531 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-27 15:21:28
March 27 2009 15:17 GMT
#178
On March 28 2009 00:17 Qwertify wrote:
I have only one word for everyone on this thread ...


+ Show Spoiler +
KWAAAAAAAANNRRRRRROOOOOOOOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL!!!!!!!!!!!!!

CJ Entusman #24
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
March 27 2009 15:18 GMT
#179
Yes, Hiya is going to do so well because he got some 3kills and an all kill even though CJ has been doing it with different players ALL FUCKING SEASON.

You people have extremely short memories.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
p4NDemik
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States13896 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-27 15:24:05
March 27 2009 15:23 GMT
#180
On March 27 2009 19:40 anch wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
Effort's pants should be wet after seeing by.hero's rape incident.

Use the SPOILER.
Moderator
Prev 1 7 8 9 10 11 136 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 11h 2m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft: Brood War
Hyuk 525
Zeus 96
ggaemo 87
NaDa 62
Stormgate
Nathanias167
Nina145
Dota 2
capcasts455
monkeys_forever219
NeuroSwarm115
PGG 66
Counter-Strike
Stewie2K489
fl0m482
taco 254
Other Games
summit1g14761
tarik_tv4534
shahzam1014
Day[9].tv888
C9.Mang0159
Maynarde74
Organizations
Other Games
BasetradeTV142
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 18 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Berry_CruncH277
• davetesta45
• musti20045 44
• Adnapsc2 9
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• sooper7s
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Migwel
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
StarCraft: Brood War
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
League of Legends
• Doublelift4003
Other Games
• imaqtpie1220
• Day9tv888
• Scarra73
Upcoming Events
LiuLi Cup
11h 2m
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
15h 2m
RSL Revival
1d 2h
RSL Revival
1d 10h
SC Evo League
1d 12h
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
1d 15h
CSO Cup
1d 16h
Sparkling Tuna Cup
2 days
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
2 days
Wardi Open
3 days
[ Show More ]
RotterdaM Event
3 days
Replay Cast
4 days
RSL Revival
4 days
The PondCast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

ASL Season 20: Qualifier #2
FEL Cracow 2025
CC Div. A S7

Ongoing

Copa Latinoamericana 4
Jiahua Invitational
BSL 20 Team Wars
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 3
BSL 21 Qualifiers
HCC Europe
BLAST Bounty Fall Qual
IEM Cologne 2025
FISSURE Playground #1
BLAST.tv Austin Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 7
IEM Dallas 2025

Upcoming

ASL Season 20
CSLPRO Chat StarLAN 3
BSL Season 21
BSL 21 Team A
RSL Revival: Season 2
Maestros of the Game
SEL Season 2 Championship
WardiTV Summer 2025
uThermal 2v2 Main Event
Thunderpick World Champ.
MESA Nomadic Masters Fall
CS Asia Championships 2025
Roobet Cup 2025
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual
Esports World Cup 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.