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disciple
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
9070 Posts
March 27 2009 00:50 GMT
#141
just my 2 cents

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ZidaneTribal
Profile Joined September 2007
United States2800 Posts
March 27 2009 01:12 GMT
#142
CMON CJ
fuck lag
Catyoul *
Profile Joined April 2004
France2377 Posts
March 27 2009 01:26 GMT
#143
As unlikely as it is, a second Jaedong all-kill in a row, in the finals of all things, would be absolutely legendary.

I can't wait for the games.
eatmyshorts5
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States1530 Posts
March 27 2009 01:41 GMT
#144
On March 27 2009 09:50 disciple wrote:

+ Show Spoiler +
just my 2 cents

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BF:BC2 ID: BisuStork//CJ Entusman #32
ambit!ous1
Profile Joined September 2007
United States3662 Posts
March 27 2009 01:42 GMT
#145
i think CJ has this
Bisu[Shield] / ♔ SoYeon
Atrioc
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States1865 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-27 02:05:38
March 27 2009 02:04 GMT
#146
(Z)Jaedong > (P)Much: 7-3
(Z)Jaedong > (T)Iris: 3-0
(Z)Jaedong > (T)DarkElf: 1-0
(Z)Jaedong > (Z)EffOrt: 1-0
(Z)Jaedong > (Z)Kwanro: 1-0
(Z)Jaedong > (T)Memory: 1-0
(Z)Jaedong > (P)Nbs: 1-0
(Z)Jaedong > (T)sKyHigh: 2-1

THE ONLY PERSON ON CJ WHO DOESNT HAVE A LOSING RECORD TO JAEDONG:
Jaedong = sAviOr: 2-2 (though both JD losses came in 2006)

Jaedong vs CJ as a whole:
19-6, 76%

We could see the unthinkable: An all-kill in the finals, giving JD an insnae total of 4 all-kills in the WL season

Honestly, with HiyA also being a favorite over anyone except Iris and sAviOr, this match is Hwaseung's to lose.
Writerman what
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
March 27 2009 02:21 GMT
#147
Hiya is NOT a favorite wtf r u smoking rofl
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Atrioc
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States1865 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-27 02:33:14
March 27 2009 02:32 GMT
#148
On March 27 2009 11:21 Ace wrote:
Hiya is NOT a favorite wtf r u smoking rofl


I get the feeling you didnt watch many Oz games this season -_-
Hiya has a better winner's league record and more wins than any player on CJ and has a higher ELO than every player but Iris (who I said hes not a favorite over).

Writerman what
Harem
Profile Joined November 2007
United States11393 Posts
March 27 2009 02:34 GMT
#149
On March 27 2009 11:21 Ace wrote:
Hiya is NOT a favorite wtf r u smoking rofl

Hiya > CJ Protoss for one.
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Deleted User 31060
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
3788 Posts
March 27 2009 02:36 GMT
#150
On March 27 2009 11:04 Atrioc wrote:
(Z)Jaedong > (P)Much: 7-3
(Z)Jaedong > (T)Iris: 3-0
(Z)Jaedong > (T)DarkElf: 1-0
(Z)Jaedong > (Z)EffOrt: 1-0
(Z)Jaedong > (Z)Kwanro: 1-0
(Z)Jaedong > (T)Memory: 1-0
(Z)Jaedong > (P)Nbs: 1-0
(Z)Jaedong > (T)sKyHigh: 2-1

THE ONLY PERSON ON CJ WHO DOESNT HAVE A LOSING RECORD TO JAEDONG:
Jaedong = sAviOr: 2-2 (though both JD losses came in 2006)

Jaedong vs CJ as a whole:
19-6, 76%

We could see the unthinkable: An all-kill in the finals, giving JD an insnae total of 4 all-kills in the WL season

Honestly, with HiyA also being a favorite over anyone except Iris and sAviOr, this match is Hwaseung's to lose.


aaaand just to rub it in:

(Z)Jaedong > (T)XellOs: 2-1
Peaked at C- on ICCUP and proud of it! @Sunyveil
eatmyshorts5
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States1530 Posts
March 27 2009 02:43 GMT
#151
On March 27 2009 11:04 Atrioc wrote:
(Z)Jaedong > (P)Much: 7-3
(Z)Jaedong > (T)Iris: 3-0
(Z)Jaedong > (T)DarkElf: 1-0
(Z)Jaedong > (Z)EffOrt: 1-0
(Z)Jaedong > (Z)Kwanro: 1-0
(Z)Jaedong > (T)Memory: 1-0
(Z)Jaedong > (P)Nbs: 1-0
(Z)Jaedong > (T)sKyHigh: 2-1

THE ONLY PERSON ON CJ WHO DOESNT HAVE A LOSING RECORD TO JAEDONG:
Jaedong = sAviOr: 2-2 (though both JD losses came in 2006)

Jaedong vs CJ as a whole:
19-6, 76%

We could see the unthinkable: An all-kill in the finals, giving JD an insnae total of 4 all-kills in the WL season

Honestly, with HiyA also being a favorite over anyone except Iris and sAviOr, this match is Hwaseung's to lose.

So your basically saying that OZ is a one man team right?
BF:BC2 ID: BisuStork//CJ Entusman #32
Avidkeystamper
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States8556 Posts
March 27 2009 02:45 GMT
#152
Teams either:
Have 1-2 Ace Players
Suck really badly
or are CJ.
The stigma that Oz is a one man team is wrong and actually applies to way more teams than people realize (or acknowledge).
Jaedong
Azrael1111
Profile Joined July 2008
United States550 Posts
March 27 2009 02:47 GMT
#153
On March 27 2009 11:43 eatmyshorts5 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2009 11:04 Atrioc wrote:
(Z)Jaedong > (P)Much: 7-3
(Z)Jaedong > (T)Iris: 3-0
(Z)Jaedong > (T)DarkElf: 1-0
(Z)Jaedong > (Z)EffOrt: 1-0
(Z)Jaedong > (Z)Kwanro: 1-0
(Z)Jaedong > (T)Memory: 1-0
(Z)Jaedong > (P)Nbs: 1-0
(Z)Jaedong > (T)sKyHigh: 2-1

THE ONLY PERSON ON CJ WHO DOESNT HAVE A LOSING RECORD TO JAEDONG:
Jaedong = sAviOr: 2-2 (though both JD losses came in 2006)

Jaedong vs CJ as a whole:
19-6, 76%

We could see the unthinkable: An all-kill in the finals, giving JD an insnae total of 4 all-kills in the WL season

Honestly, with HiyA also being a favorite over anyone except Iris and sAviOr, this match is Hwaseung's to lose.

So your basically saying that OZ is a one man team right?


Who hasn't been saying this for the entire season?
sung_moon
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10110 Posts
March 27 2009 02:58 GMT
#154
do people honestly forget what hiya's been doing this season? didnt he get like an all-kill and like 3-4 3 kills?
Forever Young
mog87
Profile Joined October 2008
United States1586 Posts
March 27 2009 03:03 GMT
#155
On March 27 2009 11:32 Atrioc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2009 11:21 Ace wrote:
Hiya is NOT a favorite wtf r u smoking rofl


I get the feeling you didnt watch many Oz games this season -_-
Hiya has a better winner's league record and more wins than any player on CJ and has a higher ELO than every player but Iris (who I said hes not a favorite over).




No one cares about ELO in this context, and him having more wins is a product of CJ having such a good team that not everyone always gets to play where as Hiya is pretty much always playing. That being said you are correct in that his play has been strong lately, though him being a favorite is still only slight, as pretty much everyone on CJ has been good lately. If Much is in form Id favor him over Hiya, his TvP is legendary. Again like pretty much everyone agrees Jaedongs performance will decide the match, though if he only wins 2 games..then Hiya may come in to play, though if Effort beats JD, I think he can pretty much take everyone on OZ as well. It should be an Interesting match.
p4NDemik
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States13896 Posts
March 27 2009 03:05 GMT
#156
the reason HiyA isn't a huge issue in this match is that CJ isn't stupid enough to feed him protoss players, and they have a wealth of terrans and zergs to beat him. for example, just about every non-protoss that CJ plays regularly can take HiyA (as evidenced by Memory beating him last time these two teams met).
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NicolBolas
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States1388 Posts
March 27 2009 03:06 GMT
#157
if Effort beats JD, I think he can pretty much take everyone on OZ as well.


If Effort not only takes Jaedong, but makes that match the first of an all-kill, that would be the most incredible thing ever.
So you know, cats are interesting. They are kind of like girls. If they come up and talk to you, it's great. But if you try to talk to them, it doesn't always go so well. - Shigeru Miyamoto
Avidkeystamper
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States8556 Posts
March 27 2009 03:39 GMT
#158
On March 27 2009 12:05 p4NDemik wrote:
the reason HiyA isn't a huge issue in this match is that CJ isn't stupid enough to feed him protoss players, and they have a wealth of terrans and zergs to beat him. for example, just about every non-protoss that CJ plays regularly can take HiyA (as evidenced by Memory beating him last time these two teams met).

On March 27 2009 11:21 Ace wrote:
Hiya is NOT a favorite wtf r u smoking rofl


Your post isn't exactly what we're talking about (p4NDemik). Saying he's a non-issue does not mean that he is not a favorite. For example, I'd still say he's the favorite over memory even though he lost last time. Also, he beat Skyhigh the last time, so it's really a toss-up, though I (and most impartial people) would favor HiyA due to his recent results.
Jaedong
p4NDemik
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States13896 Posts
March 27 2009 03:53 GMT
#159
I would favor HiyA if we were talking about him going up against a team that relies on their Protoss.

However, that is not the case. HiyA is average to mediocre in TvT and TvZ and I doubt he would would get more than one win against CJ's Terran/Zerg lineup. Iris and sAviOr can easily take him. He is not a favorite against EffOrt. Against sKyHigh I would give him a 50/50 chance. He's a slight favorite against Memory and any other lesser players.

Most of HiyA's recent results = Protoss bashing. Not a lot of success against Terran and Zerg. There is no element of his vT and vZ play that makes him especially intimidating as far as CJ is concerned.
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SilverSkyLark
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Philippines8437 Posts
March 27 2009 03:54 GMT
#160
If SkyHigh or Lomo fails to take out Jaedong then no one can take Jaedong of his seat for an all kill.
"If i lost an arm, I would play w3." -IntoTheWow || "Member of Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk cafe. He's the next Jaedong, baby!"
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