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Pufftrees
Profile Joined March 2009
2449 Posts
March 27 2009 20:20 GMT
#201
So this is late tonight correct? (im in the states) 1am Early Saturday morning Pacific time (PST)?

Or am I a day off... sorry for nub question.
Chance favors the prepared mind.
Roffles *
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Pitcairn19291 Posts
March 27 2009 20:24 GMT
#202
Yup, it's at 4 AM EST which is 1 AM PST.

Anyways, + Show Spoiler +
Seeing as Jaedong crushed by.hero last night, I predict an all-kill for the mighty one. Unless somehow he gets miraculously sniped, then Lecaf's fucked.
God Bless
Qwertify
Profile Joined September 2008
United States2531 Posts
March 27 2009 20:28 GMT
#203
On March 28 2009 05:24 Roffles wrote:
Yup, it's at 4 AM EST which is 1 AM PST.

Anyways, + Show Spoiler +
Seeing as Jaedong crushed by.hero last night, I predict an all-kill for the mighty one. Unless somehow he gets miraculously sniped, then Lecaf's fucked.


Answer: Sniped. Just like last time.
+ Show Spoiler +

via: KWWWAAAAANNNRROOOOOOOOOOOLLL!!!!
CJ Entusman #24
Spanxxx
Profile Joined February 2009
United States408 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-27 20:51:15
March 27 2009 20:45 GMT
#204
as long as savior gets 1 kill i'll be happy.

i'm guessing cj will win 4-2

effort < jaedong
skyhigh > jaedong
skyhigh > young
skyhigh < backho
savior > backho
savior > hiya
If people arent trying to pull you down, you arent climbing high enough.
NicolBolas
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States1388 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-27 21:29:26
March 27 2009 21:20 GMT
#205
On March 28 2009 04:46 JWD wrote:
Predictions!!

(Z)EffOrt < (Z)Jaedong
(T)sKyHigh < (Z)Jaedong
(T)Iris > (Z)Jaedong
(T)Iris < (T)Lomo
(Z)sAviOr > (T)Lomo
(Z)sAviOr < (T)HiyA

Just an educated guess really, so much is uncertain in this match. Much depends on whether CJ can snipe JD - if JD makes it to RH3 (I think there is a good chance he will) they are doomed. They absolutely cannot send Savior vs. JD.


Iris snipe Jaedong on Andromeda? No way. Not unless Iris got a lot better since the last time Jaedong trounced him on Andromeda. Though to be fair, I'm not sure if Much (the only possible alternative) would be any better. Jaedong's just too strong and that map doesn't have the imbalances needed for a good snipe. And there aren't even any good cheese spots, so standard play is the order of the day.

No, CJ's best chance for a snipe is SkyHigh on Sin. I know map imbalances don't mean much to Jaedong, but it's something.

However, if Iris does pull it off, Lomo's not going to beat him. No way. Iris's TvT is too good and Lomo's is too poor. Even with a special anti-Iris build, Lomo just doesn't have the chops to pull it off.

Unfortunately, OZ just doesn't have someone who can win on RH3 besides Jaedong. Or Hiya, and I wouldn't spend him so soon. They might play Lomo, but it'd basically be a sacrifice; they know they're going to take the loss, so they offer up someone who's not going to be a factor.

If there is a 3rd round snipe from Iris, here are my predictions:

(Z)Jaedong > (Z)EffOrt
(Z)Jaedong > (T)sKyHigh
(Z)Jaedong < (T)Iris
(T)Lomo < (T)Iris
(P)BackHo > (T)Iris
(P)BackHo < (Z)sAviOr

Then it comes down to (Z)sAviOr vs. (T)HiyA.
So you know, cats are interesting. They are kind of like girls. If they come up and talk to you, it's great. But if you try to talk to them, it doesn't always go so well. - Shigeru Miyamoto
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
March 27 2009 21:28 GMT
#206
Jaedong > 3 ppl
Savior > 4 ppl

CJ 4 - 3 Hwaseung



but in reality it comes down to either a JD allkill or a successful snipe.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
NicolBolas
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States1388 Posts
March 27 2009 21:39 GMT
#207
If it's a second round snipe, then OZ is screwed:

(Z)Jaedong > (Z)EffOrt
(Z)Jaedong < (T)sKyHigh
(P)BackHo > (T)sKyHigh
(P)BackHo < (T)Iris
(T)Lomo < (T)Iris
(T)HiyA < (T)Iris

BackHo can stop SkyHigh, and he might have been able to take Iris, but RH3 is going to make that impossible. After losing their only real Terran killers (Jaedong and BackHo), OZ is finished. Maybe Lomo or Hiya can steal a win, but they certainly won't survive Savior or Much.
So you know, cats are interesting. They are kind of like girls. If they come up and talk to you, it's great. But if you try to talk to them, it doesn't always go so well. - Shigeru Miyamoto
Mykill
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada3402 Posts
March 27 2009 21:50 GMT
#208
No liquibet!?!?! :O
[~~The Impossible Leads To Invention~~] CJ Entusman #52 The problem with internet quotations is that they are hard to verify -Abraham Lincoln c.1863
Fr33t
Profile Joined June 2008
United States1128 Posts
March 27 2009 21:59 GMT
#209
On March 28 2009 06:39 NicolBolas wrote:
If it's a second round snipe, then OZ is screwed:

(Z)Jaedong > (Z)EffOrt
(Z)Jaedong < (T)sKyHigh
(P)BackHo > (T)sKyHigh
(P)BackHo < (T)Iris
(T)Lomo < (T)Iris
(T)HiyA < (T)Iris

BackHo can stop SkyHigh, and he might have been able to take Iris, but RH3 is going to make that impossible. After losing their only real Terran killers (Jaedong and BackHo), OZ is finished. Maybe Lomo or Hiya can steal a win, but they certainly won't survive Savior or Much.

Hiya owns TvP, putting Much against him would be a very bad idea for CJ
"Wow you could literally transport Lomo's face to a girl and the result would be pretty deceptive."
oBlade
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States6274 Posts
March 27 2009 22:01 GMT
#210
Jaedong wants to take advantage of Bisu getting knocked out of OSL. He's at 2328 with 10 straight wins. I think he really wants 17 straight wins (after 4-0 against CJ and 3-0 against fantasy). He wants to make Bisu look like a hobbit.
"I read it. You know how to read, you ignorant fuck?" - Andy Dufresne
Jaksiel
Profile Joined November 2008
United States4130 Posts
March 27 2009 22:13 GMT
#211
On March 28 2009 05:24 Roffles wrote:
Yup, it's at 4 AM EST which is 1 AM PST.

Anyways, + Show Spoiler +
Seeing as Jaedong crushed by.hero last night, I predict an all-kill for the mighty one. Unless somehow he gets miraculously sniped, then Lecaf's fucked.


+ Show Spoiler +
Well, I don't think Jaedong crushing by.hero really means anything with regards to how well he's playing. I think everyone expected him to crush by.hero.
Zero fighting.
3nickma
Profile Joined November 2007
Denmark1510 Posts
March 27 2009 22:40 GMT
#212
Damn when I wake up tomorrow morning I can't follow this thread because if/when I get a working Daum Sports stream I'm not gonna wreck it! Should've had a second computer for Tl.net forum reading during a live game But if Jaedong looses I might read some comments and try my luck again. Though I sure am hoping he'll all-kill again so that won't be necessary
L E E J A E D O N G ! <3
scwizard
Profile Joined March 2009
United States1195 Posts
March 27 2009 22:57 GMT
#213
On March 28 2009 03:54 De4ngus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 28 2009 03:36 scwizard wrote:
On March 28 2009 03:32 Zozma wrote:
Jaedong? Ha...


You've got it all wrong. OZ needs to snipe SAVIOR before he gets an all-kill.

Well Savior has beaten Jaedong twice, and in straight up matches at that!

Too bad that was like 3 years ago..........

If you explain the joke it's not funny anymore
dragonmax
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States131 Posts
March 27 2009 22:59 GMT
#214
predicting jaedong all-kill
koziol
Profile Joined October 2008
Poland768 Posts
March 27 2009 23:01 GMT
#215
whatever happens here, this match is gonna be epic!
please life report on this one peeps
scwizard
Profile Joined March 2009
United States1195 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-27 23:08:35
March 27 2009 23:06 GMT
#216
Now Jaedong knows about Skyhigh, he knows skyhigh is coming out second, he knows he's lost to skyhigh's proxy rax before.

Now there's two arguments that are valid, Jaedong gets overconfident and loses to cheese again, or Jaedong is too on fire to lose to that kind of thing.

If Skyhigh plays straight up he'll lose (and I'll be disappointed). If skyhigh tries some kind of trick he has a chance (and the match will be interesting).

If Jaedong pulls some trick on Skyhigh and rapes him, I'll be scared out of my mind. Not only would it be frightening that Jaedong is confident enough to do that, but there's also the overtones of violent revenge.

If Jaedong trys to cheese against skyhigh and loses, that will be jaedongs fall from grace and he'll lose the OSL, perhaps 3-0.

If Oz loses Jaedong and still takes the match I'll have a new degree of respect for them.
Harem
Profile Joined November 2007
United States11393 Posts
March 27 2009 23:16 GMT
#217
http://www.iccup.com/gamingprofile/hingt.t.html

Backho is B+ on Iccup.

CJ is fucked. They should just gg now imo.
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3nickma
Profile Joined November 2007
Denmark1510 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-27 23:24:29
March 27 2009 23:23 GMT
#218
Yeah my only real main concern is some kind of ridiculous chesse build from all of CJ trying their best to snipe Jaedong 4 games in a row :s What a mind job to almost gone 9 pool every game to have some kind of early defense possibly even with an early drone scout just to make sure.

Not saying that's what he should do every single game but think of the "risk" if he goes 12 hatch 11 pool against sKyHigh or someone else to does a proxy 8 rax. Better safe than sorry. But that could also be a problem if he's lured into say a 9 pool more often than not and someone has prepared an exact counter to that.

Jesus all these mind games make me sick and I'm just spectating! Poor Jaedong but if anyone's up for it he's the man so still I'm thinking and hoping for that epic all-kill
L E E J A E D O N G ! <3
scwizard
Profile Joined March 2009
United States1195 Posts
March 27 2009 23:25 GMT
#219
On March 28 2009 06:39 NicolBolas wrote:
(Z)Jaedong > (Z)EffOrt
(Z)Jaedong < (T)sKyHigh
(P)BackHo > (T)sKyHigh
(P)BackHo < (T)Iris
(T)Lomo < (T)Iris
(T)HiyA < (T)Iris


On March 28 2009 08:16 Harem wrote:
http://www.iccup.com/gamingprofile/hingt.t.html

Backho is B+ on Iccup.


So Backho, a B+ on Iccup will defeat a player who defeats Jaedong?

At least try to have some sort of accurate prediction NicolBolas.
Harem
Profile Joined November 2007
United States11393 Posts
March 27 2009 23:30 GMT
#220
On March 28 2009 08:25 scwizard wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 28 2009 06:39 NicolBolas wrote:
(Z)Jaedong > (Z)EffOrt
(Z)Jaedong < (T)sKyHigh
(P)BackHo > (T)sKyHigh
(P)BackHo < (T)Iris
(T)Lomo < (T)Iris
(T)HiyA < (T)Iris


Show nested quote +
On March 28 2009 08:16 Harem wrote:
http://www.iccup.com/gamingprofile/hingt.t.html

Backho is B+ on Iccup.


So Backho, a B+ on Iccup will defeat a player who defeats Jaedong?

At least try to have some sort of accurate prediction NicolBolas.

It's only a matter of time until Backho hits Olympic.
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