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Hot_Bid
Braavos36375 Posts
On February 04 2009 16:21 OneOther wrote: You know 2 fact is a counter to 14 Nex, right? not on medusa and not when you take a backdoor expo 14nex is actually the counter to 2 fac in that situation. the 14nexer is way, way ahead. it seems counterintuitive but its true. | ||
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BanZu
United States3329 Posts
On February 04 2009 16:19 OneOther wrote: Did you watch the game? You can't blindly counter vs tanks with 5 goons. He only won because of his reaver. oh yeah you're right, 1a2a is sooo much better than 1a2a3a It's not about how offensive 1a2a3a is it's about how many units JangBi had when he countered. So stop complaining about me complaining -_- | ||
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Fontong
United States6454 Posts
On February 04 2009 16:20 EleanorRIgby wrote: lawl @ retards getting mad at 1a2a3a still, quite amusing I find it funny that you troll, get banned then come back and troll some more right after your temp ban wears off! | ||
JWD
United States12607 Posts
On February 04 2009 16:21 OneOther wrote: You know 2 fact is a counter to 14 Nex, right? Not on Medusa - that's Hot_Bid's point. | ||
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EleanorRIgby
Canada3923 Posts
On February 04 2009 16:21 OneOther wrote: You know 2 fact is a counter to 14 Nex, right? oh wow your smart, taking the map into consideration and all.... | ||
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EleanorRIgby
Canada3923 Posts
On February 04 2009 16:22 Fontong wrote: I find it funny that you troll, get banned then come back and troll some more right after your temp ban wears off! you play toss don't you!! | ||
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gk_ender
United States717 Posts
On February 04 2009 16:20 BanZu wrote: Ok, I really don't get this. Why do so many protoss players complain about goons being a buggy unit to play with? I play with protoss all the time and I don't have any troubles with them at all. itd be one thing if lowly iccup players complained, but free litterally is called brain toss bc PROS think goons are buggy and stupid and his buggy stupid goons are slightly less buggy and stupid. I mean have u ever seen what happens when they touch????? | ||
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JWD
United States12607 Posts
On February 04 2009 16:22 EleanorRIgby wrote: oh wow your smart, taking the map into consideration and all.... All the lonely people Where do they all come from ? GG.NET? All the lonely people Where do they all belong ? PERM BANNED? P.S. his smart what? | ||
MrHoon
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BanZu
United States3329 Posts
I just think that Fantasy's play was much more entertaining and intelligent (at least at some parts...) | ||
OneOther
United States10774 Posts
On February 04 2009 16:22 jwd241224 wrote: Not on Medusa - that's Hot_Bid's point. Well, 2 fact is still a counter to 14 Nex, even on Medusa. I agree it's not as good as it would be on other maps, but that doesn't change the fact it's a counter. 14 Nex is certainly not way AHEAD of 2 fact, because there's always that timing window where one tiny micro mistake will result in a loss. (3 Tanks + vultures running) Of course, if Protoss defends successfully, he will be ahead. The Terran can win with micro. It is definitely NOT a rock paper scissors situation where 14 Nex is automatically ahead of 2 fact. No, no, no. 14 Nex is always a risk vs 2 fact. | ||
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Fontong
United States6454 Posts
On February 04 2009 16:25 MrHoon wrote: its like after every live report with SKT or Lecaf, there are like 5 people who need to get banned. nahh, eleanorRIgby just needs to get banned in general | ||
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De4ngus
United States6533 Posts
Ugh, kid, you're going to get banned again. Way to learn from your mistakes. | ||
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ZoW
United States3983 Posts
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
On February 04 2009 16:21 jwd241224 wrote: I don't see what your point has to do with mine. How does the fact that vultures kill probes and lay mines change Medusa's map balance or how crushing that defeat was? Ack, Fantasy lost because he made the same mistake Zero made against FBH. He tried to end it too early and didn't prepare for a counter-offensive well enough. I was almost certain JB would be able to come back after I saw Fantasy continuously streaming in vultures with a VEEERY late CC. | ||
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gk_ender
United States717 Posts
On February 04 2009 16:26 OneOther wrote: Well, 2 fact is still a counter to 14 Nex, even on Medusa. I agree it's not as good it would be on other maps, but that doesn't change the fact it's a counter. 14 Nex is certainly not way AHEAD of 2 fact, because there's always that timing window where one tiny micro mistake will result in a loss. Of course, if Protoss defends successfully, he will be ahead. exactly, if two fact ever gets beat back toss is ahead. But i do have to say this, with the damage fantasy caused to jangbis economy, i think instead of the continuous pressure, he coulda built some tanks, turtled up, and pushed into late game with some advantage bc of his economy, and waited for a good timing push to finish the game. | ||
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Lamentations
Australia211 Posts
On February 04 2009 16:21 jwd241224 wrote: I don't see what your point has to do with mine. How does the fact that vultures kill probes and lay mines change Medusa's map balance or how crushing that defeat was? I was referring to the second sentence, perhaps I can bold it for you next time now that I know you lack the critical skills to identify that 'Fantasy was using 2 units at a time" is in response to "JangBi was using 6 units at a time". | ||
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Vasoline73
United States7801 Posts
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EpiK
Korea (South)5757 Posts
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OneOther
United States10774 Posts
On February 04 2009 16:28 gk_ender wrote: exactly, if two fact ever gets beat back toss is ahead. But i do have to say this, with the damage fantasy caused to jangbis economy, i think instead of the continuous pressure, he coulda built some tanks, turtled up, and pushed into late game with some advantage bc of his economy, and waited for a good timing push to finish the game. yep. if 14 nex was a rock-paper-scissors advantage against 2 fact, Protoss would 14 nex every single game on Medusa. it takes perfect micro to defend 2 fact with fast nexus. | ||
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