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On January 30 2009 22:15 Piste wrote:
Satanik 144-114-0 C ? I don't think so..
On January 30 2009 23:04 Coulthard wrote:
LoL this guy can't be serious..
On January 30 2009 23:13 Tarmak_mk wrote:
thats how sadly iccup is it~ they have lucky there are no other ladder
On January 30 2009 23:17 Oystein wrote:
lol wtf is up with the iccup admins?
But even worse, whats with monki?? Do he really think these guys needs to abuse to get to the ranks they are at?
On January 30 2009 23:26 SkelA wrote:
and thats the old good cheloman we all know and love!
Now Ive known sataNik for years and all the other players and I can truly say they are not ladder abusers. I believe Iccup admins need to be a bit more manner and stop the non sense of hearing someone go like this Monki guy: OMG look he played X games vs X guy ban him. I mean thats so childish. I really hope they start behaving better and also if there are rules like this to post it in the rules section. Its ridiculous to see admin say in that forum: We have these rules but we only know them and we dont have them written in rule section, I mean ROFL. I used to be a admin back in the old school days in NeoGame-i and ladder abuse was punished and we could clearly see who was abusing it by watching duration of a match, units made etc. Now that iccup has this on their site its quite obvious to tell if a game is an abused game or if it was legit. I mean come on, it clearly shows how many units produced, minerals mine, units killed, duration etc.
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Why don't they just change it so that when you've played a certain amount of times versus a person you just don't get points from him anymore, maybe reset it weekly/daily.
Banning or resetting all of their stats is just ridiculously stupid.
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this may sound kinda fucked up.
But generally I find admins barely speak enough english to get by and are extremely biased in all the cws Ive been in.
This is not surprising at all.....obviously the test for competency isnt required to become an admin. 
Im still banned from WGT forums after all these years because of retard admins . Theres no way satanik would abuse either and I didnt see anything written about playing a person a certain amount of times.
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They don't even have a rule against it,I checked the ladder-rules.Maybe they just expect from us to guess it.
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If the win / lose ratio is still around 40-60 % it shouldnt be a probleme to play more than 8 games against one of your friends ...
Especially @ high ranks when you actually lose points if you are only 50% win vs equal rank ( i'm right ? )
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intrigue
Washington, D.C9933 Posts
if i played almost 200 games on iccup and couldn't get out of D+, i'd try to bring everyone else down to me too
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United States4126 Posts
Monki's posts made me lol
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The other night I was playing with some BM flaming retarded kid and then he logged on his iccup admin account. Seriously the kid was suchhhhhh a retard. The application process is quite ridiculous for the level of prestiege given to them and thus hopefully reciprocated.
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USA29055 Posts
I'd love to seem them ding savior with a penalty and a warning hahaha
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I dont see why some guy sat there seeing if people have abused or not, its not like it matters to him when hes like d
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On January 31 2009 01:07 Scaramanga wrote:
I dont see why some guy sat there seeing if people have abused or not, its not like it matters to him when hes like d
I dont see why admins are listening to that guy u mentioned.
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Gawd why does he have to be an Aussie -_-
They have a 50% win rate so obviously it is not getting them anywhere, but they can just use melee if they just want to practice within clan. Thing is, though, stats abusing is not allowed so even though they don't gain anything out of it they should be punished.
There is a "Report Stats Abuser' thread for a reason. Just because they don't quantify a limit on the number of games doesn't mean it is some miraculous loophole you have discovered and must be compelled to exploit.
Also, if you need to practice you don't have to do ranked ladder games all the time.
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the admins are dicks.....they know they are wrong but try to cover it up.
ENGLISH ONLY ADMINS PLEASE.
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Ok first off all I feel the need to say that I have great respect for what admins do, they work for the community without any pay\reward and do an important job making iccup run smoothly and keeping it THE place to play ladder.
However in these cases I think the admins have fucked up big time, there is nothing in the rules about amount of games to play vs someone. And when there aint you should atleast give a warning to people before they start penalizing them. When an admin punishes someone and write "There are a lot of rules which we keeps and is not showed." there is something seriously fucked up and wrong. And I was under the impression the max amount of games rule was there to stop people from abusing, not to stop people from playing lots of games vs each other, when its clearly not the case in these cases.
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what can i say more, i played all koreans i can i played vs any korean vs any foreigner i played chosen like a friend not wanted even thinked to abuse, only to get 300 points and after punished with -2500? cheloman is one of the most stupidest admins
and they send me warning where they delete last 8 games, and day after that + penlaty of -2500 pretty sad, i lost my free time to icc and after penalty because i "mass games" thx
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On January 31 2009 01:23 Oystein wrote:
However in these cases I think the admins have fucked up big time, there is nothing in the rules about amount of games to play vs someone. And when there aint you should atleast give a warning to people before they start penalizing them. When an admin punishes someone and write "There are a lot of rules which we keeps and is not showed." there is something seriously fucked up and wrong. And I was under the impression the max amount of games rule was there to stop people from abusing, not to stop people from playing lots of games vs each other, when its clearly not the case in these cases.
Whether there is a written rule or not it doesn't matter. If they are penalised for the 'stats abusing' games then it is fair. The website is still being updated and that doesn't mean "rules don't count" just because they haven't been added yet. If they abuse they get their points revoked and learn their lesson, and then they are no worse off than when they started because they should have done melee mode anyway. Why should they 'get away' with breaking the rules just because they didn't know it? This logic doesn't work in the real world (Sorry, I didn't know theft was illegal in this country! You can't punish me!), so stop complaining about it at iccup :/
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Its an abuse after 2 hours of games one player gets just +100 points,are you serious? And I dont see how hard it is to add 1 sentence in the faq / rules page even if the site is still ''being updated''
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EPT
