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It's kinda like the game where I couldn't make a complaint because I got an error for over 5 days in a row when trying to submit it. So I made a complaint in the complaint forum. I said "I am getting an error repeatedly, I know you want me to use the matchlist, I've tried many times, it won't work, so please don't close this thread and tell me to make a complaint with the matchlist."
The admin replied
"you can complaint in matchlist, thread closed" then he had an elaborate ASCII signature that took longer than the message.
I put a complaint about this admin in the complaint-about-admins-forum, and that got closed too. So I never got my points. For 3 games.
As for these idiotic rules, I'm sure some industrious person could just go through all the A+'s and get like 20 of them banned/points removed, since they are all playing one another dozens and dozens of games in a row. But no ICCUP admin would do that, because thats fucking STUPID. Same thing here.
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I got it fixed for me, Thanks admins 
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On January 31 2009 01:58 Excello.ChOseN wrote:
It wasn't abuse, there was no rule, the country analogy is horrible. If we go to russia and they arrest us for something they DONT have a rule for, its just them killing tourists. Please fix this...
You obviously didn't get it. The point is that there IS a rule against it but it is not WRITTEN FOR YOU ON THE FRONT PAGE. If you had asked an admin about it or bothered to check the forums you would find out. When you are in a new state/country with different laws do they have posters and billboards everywhere announcing laws that you might not be aware of for your convenience?
No, if you want to find out about them you have to be pro active and ask someone.
EDIT: Oh wait maybe you are talking about this other guy's analogy, nvm.
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lol, ret got forum banned for this comment:
"Can't you looik at their game list and respect the ammount of work they put into their ranks by playing a huge variety of people and maybe think for a second before you go ahead and ruin their hard work because omg they played practise games on ladder and went 10-10!!!! This would be the common sense approach.
Technically, no rules written down = no punishment. Just warn them and move on ffs."
WTF? just ridiculous
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Some of those admins are just fucking stupid. No common sense or logic.
P.S- cheloman is a cocksnot
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Cheloman has always been one of the oldest admins from pgtour days and now iccup and i apreciate his hard work for the community but i must say he is really a idiot with almost no english skills .
He has done this kind of things as long as i can remember and when he do it there is no force in the universe that can change his mind and will do all kinds of shit so he wont look like a retarded douche or just ban everyone that show him that he has done a bad decision .
Same thing he done with the rules adding the last paragraph just today so he can "excuse" his rampage with punishing tons of people just because they played 20 games in a period of a few days .
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If you're mass gaming and practicing why can't you play on UMS or melee? What is the issue here? The rules have been there for as long as I can remember, but when the new redesigned site came up, it was lost during the transition. The rules make sense. I don't understand the outrage.
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lol all get points back and me not? :O something wrong chosen is the only one who got points back?
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On January 31 2009 11:27 Scooge wrote:
If you're mass gaming and practicing why can't you play on UMS or melee? What is the issue here? The rules have been there for as long as I can remember, but when the new redesigned site came up, it was lost during the transition. The rules make sense. I don't understand the outrage.
I think someone answered it before
When you play for points it sortof gives you an extra motivation to win because you're playing for something.
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Shit load of kids apply admin for the sole purpose of having that little power over the ladder. A couple hours of handling ladder abuses and they can start abusing themselves. This "cheloman" isn't the first or the last piece of shit that can't bust a nut 'less some they overrule and reset some top foreigner. No matter how good, how well know you are, you still have to answer to them must give these kids a raging hard on. And if people challenge his authority and post in the thread? Ban them from the site! Fuck the ladder and all that it stands for.
Incompetent toddlers power-tripping, really nothing new.
Despite one of the most well kept ladder since pgt iccup has one of the most infantile, disorganized forum out of all foreign community sites. No need to bash ALL admins tho, some are obviously mannered and making an effort.
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On January 31 2009 00:47 Puosu wrote:
Why don't they just change it so that when you've played a certain amount of times versus a person you just don't get points from him anymore, maybe reset it weekly/daily.
Banning or resetting all of their stats is just ridiculously stupid. That would make sense actually. It would help clans practice against each other with no latency on ICCUP as well, just like in this case, with no fear of ridiculous reprisals. Sure, ICCUP is a ladder, but the ranking system only truly matters for 10-20 people. Everyone else the ranks are just used to judge weather they are improving or not. So while steps should be taken to ensure the ladder is legitimate, we should all step back and realize iccup is also a medium to get really good games, with other clans folk, and other people. A game.
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Man... speaking of rules changing, someone dropped at the 2 minute mark against me because I was cheesing (and it recorded as a loss). I reported it, and he got docked points, but I never got credited with any. I checked the rules and that rule is just gone.
This is way worse than that though.
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On January 31 2009 11:48 zer0das wrote:
Man... speaking of rules changing, someone dropped at the 2 minute mark against me because I was cheesing (and it recorded as a loss). I reported it, and he got docked points, but I never got credited with any. I checked the rules and that rule is just gone.
This is way worse than that though. admittedly one that I suppose is unenforceable simply because its impossible to prove, but is FUCKING annoying and happens a lot at the d level, is race switching. You think the player is going protoss, but he quickly switches to zerg and transitions into like, 3 hatch hydra or some bullshit. You scout last, and are impossibly behind because of a bad build order.
Ye know, I can understand denying the complaint I gave on that, but I actually got bm from the admins. Jesus.
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They took 3000points off of ALL of satanik's accounts? That's beyond fucking stupid.
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That really does suck. It hurts me that they'd do this to an old time gamer...
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haha I can't believe got banned from the site for this simple comment in that iccup thread:
"Omg get a life Monki."
He put that pretty mildly if you ask me. I appreciate most of the iccup admins because overall they do a great job but this guy was on a power trip.
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Honestly the whole rules bit with playing a person multiple times should not penalize players unless there is evidence of clear cut free wins etc. Even if it was a rule before, they should remove it now. Playing someone 15 times at A rank is allowed but not at a lower rank. Understandable that its because A ranks have less opponents but still: why should higher ranks be allowed to have more practice games versus the same person when lower ranks (who are exponentially greater in number and in higher need of practice games) are not? They posted something like 15 for A 12 for B forget the others probably like 9 and 6 maybe? How exactly can they ever come close to enforcing that rule? I bet someone isn't checking _EVERY_SINGLE_ACCOUNT_ and COUNTING games between players. To only enforce it to the few which are brought up when there are so many doing it.. where is the justice in that system?
What exactly is the purpose of that rule? Is playing legit practice games against the same person negative for anyone in anyway? It certainly isn't abuse. No need to regulate amount of legit games played its just insanity and impossible. Whenever admins penalize someone over this stupidity there will ALWAYS be an argument because the same logic will ALWAYS be valid.
Rules against abuse are one thing, rules monitoring the amount of games allowed to be played between two players are another. Only one is logical and should remain a rule.
To be honest this reminds me a lot of prohibition of alcohol in the United States. It was applied, no one followed it anyway and there are just way too many people to regulate so it ultimately failed. At least with prohibition they had logic for putting it in place and the government realized it wasn't working and repealed it.
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On January 31 2009 02:03 littlechava wrote:
sad response from admins
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U,U once i was winning a game and close to the end the guy activated a hack... the site drop him but the game didn't count ... i mean fuck i was going to win and he just put his hack on, and suddenly the game is discharge? Thats bullshit....
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holy shit these admits are sickeningly stupid, what the fuck is going on, does anyone on tl even know the head guys of iccup to fix this, seems like those admins are just horribly abusive, wow it never even happened to one of my accounts but this pisses me off
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