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On January 21 2009 14:00 Qwertify wrote:Show nested quote +On January 21 2009 13:56 Choros wrote:
I predict they will send out Skyhigh or Iris, becuase of the map.
or maybe Savior cause he dismantled Zero in msl Good catch. It had to be Terran. They have been doing well against Zerg lately. I think when  Nal_keke took out Fantasy, it was like 21-4 in TvZ Proleague, 2 of those 4 came from Keke himself. More recently it has been more even. It kind of started with  Iris's loss to Calm.
Also Rushout 3 is really good for Terran putting Iris in a good position if he does win, they will probably send out a terran and Iris is traditionally solid TvT
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I need high speed internet.
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On January 21 2009 14:02 Qwertify wrote:
I need high speed internet.
Wont help Daum Sports the problem is on their end. :\
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On January 21 2009 13:54 rushz0rz wrote:
by your guys' standard, effort should be winning because ZOMG HE DID GOOD VS. JAEDONG WTF WHY ISNT HE WINNING
Because Zero beat JD, something that Effort didn't do?
Please shut up, this is obvious trolling. Obviously, luck is more pronounced in ZvZ than other MUs, but only on non-2 player maps. Also, skill obvious does matter in ZvZ, Jaedong clearly proves that statement.
On January 21 2009 13:41 rushz0rz wrote:
im always curious as to why people try and determine who will win in the ZvZ. when it comes down to it, its completely random and based on luck. doesnt matter who played good against who, whatever you want to think.
lol, srsly.
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ZvZ is luck based. Whoever doesn't admit it is just in denial.
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On January 21 2009 13:38 MoRe_mInErAls wrote:This thread needs more sAviOr
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On January 21 2009 14:06 rushz0rz wrote:
ZvZ is luck based. Whoever doesn't admit it is just in denial.
i chuckled at the irony.
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On January 21 2009 14:06 rushz0rz wrote:
ZvZ is luck based. Whoever doesn't admit it is just in denial.
I am in denial.
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On January 21 2009 14:04 Choros wrote:Wont help Daum Sports the problem is on their end. :\
If you look at the name of the stream, it says whatever ch#_hi iirc. That means it's the hi-def stream so there should be a low-def one somewhere.... Would be awesome if that could be found.
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And again who said 12 hatch wins?
Don't forget to add applying pressure and how much of it to the zvz skill list.
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On January 21 2009 14:07 cunninglinguists wrote:Show nested quote +On January 21 2009 14:06 rushz0rz wrote:
ZvZ is luck based. Whoever doesn't admit it is just in denial. i chuckled at the irony.
Oh, he is being funny. I get it now.
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On January 21 2009 14:08 Jumbalumba wrote:Show nested quote +On January 21 2009 14:04 Choros wrote:On January 21 2009 14:02 Qwertify wrote:
I need high speed internet. Wont help Daum Sports the problem is on their end. :\ If you look at the name of the stream, it says whatever ch#_hi iirc. That means it's the hi-def stream so there should be a low-def one somewhere.... Would be awesome if that could be found.
We need someone who understands Korean to investigate this.
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On January 21 2009 14:00 Qwertify wrote:Show nested quote +On January 21 2009 13:56 Choros wrote:
I predict they will send out Skyhigh or Iris, becuase of the map.
or maybe Savior cause he dismantled Zero in msl Good catch. It had to be Terran. They have been doing well against Zerg lately. I think when Nal_keke took out Fantasy, it was like 21-4 in TvZ Proleague, 2 of those 4 came from Keke himself. More recently it has been more even. It kind of started with Iris's loss to Calm.
It's because of the map. It's pretty good for Zerg, but also Rush Hour 3 follows up, so if IriS wins he will need to continue on RH3, which is a great map for Terrans.
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On January 21 2009 14:06 rushz0rz wrote:
ZvZ is luck based. Whoever doesn't admit it is just in denial.
That's fine, but so is every MU. If you go 9pool against 14CC=> Auto win due to luck. However, 1) You get free scouting in ZvZ, something that's not true for any of the other MUs, which reduces the "luck" factor and 2) let's remember your initial statement:
On January 21 2009 13:41 rushz0rz wrote:
im always curious as to why people try and determine who will win in the ZvZ. when it comes down to it, its completely random and based on luck. doesnt matter who played good against who, whatever you want to think.
That is blatantly false.
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On January 21 2009 14:09 Fontong wrote:
YES plz iris do a sweep!
How is the OGN vs MBC game going?
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On January 21 2009 14:08 Qwertify wrote:Show nested quote +On January 21 2009 14:06 rushz0rz wrote:
ZvZ is luck based. Whoever doesn't admit it is just in denial. I am in denial.
One player has good stats so that completely disproves my statement? It doesn't, sorry. There is always an exception, but that doesn't deter from the fact that ZvZ is luck based.
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On January 21 2009 14:10 Qwertify wrote:How is the OGN vs MBC game going?
Sea > Go.Go
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On January 21 2009 14:10 rushz0rz wrote:Show nested quote +On January 21 2009 14:08 Qwertify wrote:On January 21 2009 14:06 rushz0rz wrote:
ZvZ is luck based. Whoever doesn't admit it is just in denial. I am in denial. One player has good stats so that completely disproves my statement? It doesn't, sorry. There is always an exception, but that doesn't deter from the fact that ZvZ is luck based.
PvP is luck based.
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On January 21 2009 14:08 Qwertify wrote:Show nested quote +On January 21 2009 14:06 rushz0rz wrote:
ZvZ is luck based. Whoever doesn't admit it is just in denial. I am in denial.
Jaedong obviously messes up his opponents luck by sending a black cat across the way which in turn makes him win ^.^
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