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[WL] CJ Entus vs Woongjin Stars - Page 13

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Fontong
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States6454 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-01-21 05:11:48
January 21 2009 05:11 GMT
#241
On January 21 2009 14:11 Choros wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2009 14:10 Qwertify wrote:
On January 21 2009 14:09 Fontong wrote:
YES plz iris do a sweep!


How is the OGN vs MBC game going?

Sea > Go.Go

+ Show Spoiler +
Yarnc > Sea
[SECRET FONT] "Dragoon bunker"
raiame
Profile Joined December 2007
United States421 Posts
January 21 2009 05:13 GMT
#242
Well, we do admit that there is some luck involved. However, "completely random and luck based" adds the qualifier completely, which makes it undeniably false.
I certainly don't have a 50% chance of beating Jaedong.
wonkman
Profile Joined March 2008
United States520 Posts
January 21 2009 05:13 GMT
#243
On January 21 2009 14:11 Camlito wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2009 14:10 rushz0rz wrote:
On January 21 2009 14:08 Qwertify wrote:
On January 21 2009 14:06 rushz0rz wrote:
ZvZ is luck based. Whoever doesn't admit it is just in denial.


I am in denial.


One player has good stats so that completely disproves my statement? It doesn't, sorry. There is always an exception, but that doesn't deter from the fact that ZvZ is luck based.


PvP is luck based.

Starcraft is luck based with this logic ^.^
Realpenguin
Profile Joined December 2006
8253 Posts
January 21 2009 05:13 GMT
#244
INTRO PLAYED

Iris VS Zero STARTING!
Iris is green at 7 o'clock
Zero is teal at 1 o'clock
<Wolfpox> i remember when MVP beat that one guy, and everyone was like 'whoa' except that penguin dude.
Avidkeystamper
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States8552 Posts
January 21 2009 05:14 GMT
#245
On January 21 2009 14:10 rushz0rz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2009 14:08 Qwertify wrote:
On January 21 2009 14:06 rushz0rz wrote:
ZvZ is luck based. Whoever doesn't admit it is just in denial.


I am in denial.


One player has good stats so that completely disproves my statement? It doesn't, sorry. There is always an exception, but that doesn't deter from the fact that ZvZ is luck based.

Luxury. You think that "its completely random and based on luck". Don't tone it down. Support your views, come on!
Jaedong
soudo
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
603 Posts
January 21 2009 05:14 GMT
#246
I have to admit, I like Woongjin more than CJ, but I want Iris to take this.
Realpenguin
Profile Joined December 2006
8253 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-01-21 05:14:26
January 21 2009 05:14 GMT
#247
IRIS SENDING OUT AN EARLY SCV

PROXY RAX IN THE MIDDLE
<Wolfpox> i remember when MVP beat that one guy, and everyone was like 'whoa' except that penguin dude.
fusionsdf
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada15390 Posts
January 21 2009 05:15 GMT
#248
On January 21 2009 14:10 Avidkeystamper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2009 14:06 rushz0rz wrote:
ZvZ is luck based. Whoever doesn't admit it is just in denial.

That's fine, but so is every MU. If you go 9pool against 14CC=> Auto win due to luck. However, 1) You get free scouting in ZvZ, something that's not true for any of the other MUs, which reduces the "luck" factor and 2) let's remember your initial statement:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2009 13:41 rushz0rz wrote:
im always curious as to why people try and determine who will win in the ZvZ. when it comes down to it, its completely random and based on luck. doesnt matter who played good against who, whatever you want to think.

That is blatantly false.

you're arguing with a troll

hes a generally shitty poster, so I'm just patiently waiting for the day he slips up enough to get banned
SKT_Best: "I actually chose Protoss because it was so hard for me to defeat Protoss as a Terran. When I first started Brood War, my main race was Terran."
rushz0rz
Profile Blog Joined February 2006
Canada5300 Posts
January 21 2009 05:15 GMT
#249
On January 21 2009 14:14 Avidkeystamper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2009 14:10 rushz0rz wrote:
On January 21 2009 14:08 Qwertify wrote:
On January 21 2009 14:06 rushz0rz wrote:
ZvZ is luck based. Whoever doesn't admit it is just in denial.


I am in denial.


One player has good stats so that completely disproves my statement? It doesn't, sorry. There is always an exception, but that doesn't deter from the fact that ZvZ is luck based.

Luxury. You think that "its completely random and based on luck". Don't tone it down. Support your views, come on!


Maybe my first statement was a bit exaggerated. It's more luck based than any other match up, more luck based than skill based. Obviously there are degrees of skill required.
IntoTheRainBOw fan~
Camlito
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
Australia4040 Posts
January 21 2009 05:15 GMT
#250
On January 21 2009 14:13 wonkman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2009 14:11 Camlito wrote:
On January 21 2009 14:10 rushz0rz wrote:
On January 21 2009 14:08 Qwertify wrote:
On January 21 2009 14:06 rushz0rz wrote:
ZvZ is luck based. Whoever doesn't admit it is just in denial.


I am in denial.


One player has good stats so that completely disproves my statement? It doesn't, sorry. There is always an exception, but that doesn't deter from the fact that ZvZ is luck based.


PvP is luck based.

Starcraft is luck based with this logic ^.^


That's what i was going for . Any matchup can be luck based, it's just mirrors (mainly pvp and zvz) are more pronounced, ZvZ more than PvP.
sAviOr...
imDerek
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States1944 Posts
January 21 2009 05:15 GMT
#251
go Iris! go berserker on this zero kid
Least favorite progamers: Leta, Zero, Mind, Shine, free, really <-- newly added
cunninglinguists
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States925 Posts
January 21 2009 05:15 GMT
#252
love is luck based.
Realpenguin
Profile Joined December 2006
8253 Posts
January 21 2009 05:15 GMT
#253
My stream is lagging so much right now eek

Looks like Zero did 12 hatch, and Iris is failing to put his bunker up at Zero's nat
<Wolfpox> i remember when MVP beat that one guy, and everyone was like 'whoa' except that penguin dude.
soudo
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
603 Posts
January 21 2009 05:16 GMT
#254
Lol, Xellos approves of the bunker rush, nods in agreement.
rushz0rz
Profile Blog Joined February 2006
Canada5300 Posts
January 21 2009 05:16 GMT
#255
so much for a good ZvT ...
IntoTheRainBOw fan~
MoRe_mInErAls
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Canada1210 Posts
January 21 2009 05:16 GMT
#256
(T)Iris[gm]

[image loading]
Ingenol
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States1328 Posts
January 21 2009 05:16 GMT
#257
Bunker is up!
Realpenguin
Profile Joined December 2006
8253 Posts
January 21 2009 05:16 GMT
#258
IRIS GETS THE BUNKER UP, IN RANGE OF THE NAT HATCH

ITS HP SLOWLY GOING DOWN
<Wolfpox> i remember when MVP beat that one guy, and everyone was like 'whoa' except that penguin dude.
NovaTheFeared
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States7222 Posts
January 21 2009 05:16 GMT
#259
Horrible bunker rush defense from Zero. Already lost 6 drones.
日本語が分かりますか
Avidkeystamper
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States8552 Posts
January 21 2009 05:16 GMT
#260
On January 21 2009 14:15 rushz0rz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2009 14:14 Avidkeystamper wrote:
On January 21 2009 14:10 rushz0rz wrote:
On January 21 2009 14:08 Qwertify wrote:
On January 21 2009 14:06 rushz0rz wrote:
ZvZ is luck based. Whoever doesn't admit it is just in denial.


I am in denial.


One player has good stats so that completely disproves my statement? It doesn't, sorry. There is always an exception, but that doesn't deter from the fact that ZvZ is luck based.

Luxury. You think that "its completely random and based on luck". Don't tone it down. Support your views, come on!


Maybe my first statement was a bit exaggerated. It's more luck based than any other match up, more luck based than skill based. Obviously there are degrees of skill required.

Obviously, it's more skill-based than luck based since most of the time it's 9pool vs 9pool on 2 player maps.
Jaedong
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