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2008-2009 Shinhan Bank Winners League Week 1
CJ Entus Woongjin StarsPL: 8th, 11-12, +5 (50-45) VS PL: 7th, 12-11, +1 (50-49) WL: T-2nd, 1-0, +3 (4-1) WL: 5th, 1-0, +1 (4-3) ![[image loading]](http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/images/Ticon_small.gif) : 15-12, ![[image loading]](http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/images/Zicon_small.png) : 21-22, ![[image loading]](http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/images/Picon_small.gif) : 14-11 : 5-17, : 23-18, : 22-14
![[image loading]](http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/images/players/544.jpg)  EffOrt < Colosseum II >  GuemChi ![[image loading]](http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/images/teams/9.jpg) ![[image loading]](http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/images/teams/6.jpg) ??? < Neo Harmony > ??? ??? < Sin Chupung-Ryeong > ??? ??? < Rush Hour 3 > ??? ??? < Medusa > ??? ??? < Destination > ??? ??? < Andromeda > ???
Predictions+ Show Spoiler +Set 1: EffOrt > GuemChiSet 2: EffOrt > ZerOSet 3: EffOrt < freeSet 4:  sKyHigh > freeSet 5: sKyHigh > GGPlayCJ Entus wins 4-1 over Woongjin! Analysis: This map pool is really difficult for Woongjin to gameplan around in my opinion. EffOrt has to be a favorite to win the first two sets regardless of who Woongjin plays in set 2 (considering EffOrt's stellar ZvZ, how difficult Neo Harmony is for PvZ, and the fact that Woongjin has no good Terrans). If WJ is down 0-2 going into game 3 it would be hard to not play free on Chupung, but even if free wins that game he'll be easily countered on Rush Hour by either Iris or sKyHigh. If free won and he subsequently lost on Rush Hour I don't think whoever is left on Woongjin's roster could win three straight against CJ. I think Woongjin really needs Guemchi/ZerO/GGPlay to upset EffOrt somehow in one of the first two sets or all paths lead to defeat. Set 1: EffOrt > GuemChiSet 2: EffOrt < ZerOSet 3: Iris > ZerOSet 4: Iris > freeSet 5: Iris > GGPlayCJ wins 4-1! IRIS DA MAN - got me top 20 in fantasy!Updated Team Standings CJ Entus Woongjin StarsPL: 6th, 12-12, +8 (54-46) PL: 8th, 12-12, -2 (51-53) WL: 1st, 2-0, +6 (8-2) WL: 8th, 1-1, -2 (5-7) : 18-12, : 22-23, : 14-11 : 5-17, : 24-20, : 22-16
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Poll: Who are you cheering for?
(Vote): CJ Entus
(Vote): Woongjin Stars
(Vote): I'm just a sAviOr fan who wants to see him all-kill
Poll: Who do you think will win?
(Vote): CJ Entus
(Vote): Woongjin Stars
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coming again to save the motherfu**ing day yeah!
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EffOrt > GuemChi
...Effort is the new CJ go-to Zerg. He should steamroll Guemchi easily
EffOrt < ZerO
ZerO is in my opinion better than Effort. BO win for Zero
sKyHigh < ZerO
SkyHigh is a new and upcoming player..but ZerO has the advantage in experiance
Movie > ZerO
MOVIEEEEE :D my new fav playerrrrr. :D
Movie < free[gm]
Free...my old fav playerrrrrrrrrrrrrr <3
sAviOr < free[gm]
And savior fails...b/c he's practicing for the MSL
3-4 Woongin
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effort's not losing a zvz to zero
not going to happen
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Don't play with Fire, AKA Free's breath of death
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OR FUCK THAT
GUEMCHI FOR THE ALL KILL
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yeah CJ's been doing pretty well recently, I expect them to win here
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On January 21 2009 04:43 LinYu)Fury wrote:
coming again to save the motherfu**ing day yeah!
sAviOr!
Fuck yeah!
Sportsmanship!
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amazing poll option, lol
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Tonight is going to be a great night. I get to see EffOrt all-kill, and then watch July stomp some noob in the OSL.
CJ Fighting!!!
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United States3824 Posts
Who the hell is GuemChi? Has a negative record but runs OGN (was it OGN?) last set.
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Haha, starting with Guemchi again. Careful CJ!
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Lets go Stars at least let GGPlay 3rd set :D
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effOrt < GuemChi
sAviOr > GuemChi
sAviOr > Ganzi
sAviOr > Free
sAviOr < ZerO
Iris < ZerO
skYhigH < ZerO
gogogo FPL
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Yeah I totally forgot about GGplay.
him and Free give Stars a chance!
Although Savior All kill would be very nice
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Actually, Free's the only one that would likely win against Savior, if I think of who's on Woongjin...
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On January 21 2009 05:48 Zozma wrote:
Actually, Free's the only one that would likely win against Savior, if I think of who's on Woongjin...
Free, ZerO and GGPlay can all beat Savior. Whether they're playing up to par tonight is what is yet to be seen.
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Zero isn't better than Effort what are you smoking 
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Guemchi better get taken to pieces, that's all I care about.
I want Effort to mentally destroy him, so much so Guemchi bear dreams about it at night. Over and over in his head he will see this image. This should then hopefully lead to insomnia and depression.
Eventually Guemchi will leave the Woongjin house and go find a cave to hide in; there he will meet Intrigue and all the other fantasy owners who thought it was a good idea to put some random Protoss in their team just because he was a starting player in week1.
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I really hope ZerO plays tonight. I need FPL points really bad.
I'm anxious for the trades to start.
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I think CJ should have this pretty easily. Gogo Effort!
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This should be pretty good, hopfully goes to game 7.
Expect at least 2 ZvZs though
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How can you predict a BO win?
This is a sad day. First day without Corinthos 
Also the first day with Obama. I'm struggling to decide which affects me more.
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i just want effort to go 3-0 then free to clean it up with an all kill.
i know i know.. it's for my fantasy teams!
but free fighting!
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![[image loading]](http://www.gamereplays.org/community/uploads/post-14673-1190869078.jpg) °°°°°( it's 2009, I'm gonna allkill rape you ez keke)
seriously, I think CJ will get a close win! gogo!
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For my fantasy-team I want savior to all kill (and fanboyism!!!!) But I think efforts gonna allkill
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guemchi isn't bad (watch his near-comeback victory vs flash and his win against yarnc), and seeing as he has free to learn and train with, i wouldn't expect him to be. free can take effort down. zero and ggplay are good zvz's and zvt's.
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GO STARSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
Please take this match!
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On January 21 2009 06:40 lgdDante wrote:How can you predict a BO win? This is a sad day. First day without Corinthos Also the first day with Obama. I'm struggling to decide which affects me more.
wht? OBAMA!!!!!
but seriously, that was really impressive movie but give savior a chance. i wanta see more of him
go go cj
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On January 21 2009 07:07 sung_moon wrote:Show nested quote +On January 21 2009 06:40 lgdDante wrote:How can you predict a BO win? This is a sad day. First day without Corinthos Also the first day with Obama. I'm struggling to decide which affects me more. wht? OBAMA!!!!! but seriously, that was really impressive movie but give savior a chance. i wanta see more of him go go cj Hopefully one of Obama's first matters of international policy is to make DAUM watchable.
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On January 21 2009 06:40 lgdDante wrote:How can you predict a BO win? This is a sad day. First day without Corinthos Also the first day with Obama. I'm struggling to decide which affects me more.
rofl I was about to say dude, how are you gonna predict a bo win for a player...and why would they send savior to take out free instead of Iris in the situation he proposed?
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Go Stars. Effort can beat GuemChi, but then Zero/GGPlay/Free can clean up.
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On January 21 2009 07:30 lgdDante wrote:Show nested quote +On January 21 2009 07:07 sung_moon wrote:On January 21 2009 06:40 lgdDante wrote:How can you predict a BO win? This is a sad day. First day without Corinthos Also the first day with Obama. I'm struggling to decide which affects me more. wht? OBAMA!!!!! but seriously, that was really impressive movie but give savior a chance. i wanta see more of him go go cj Hopefully one of Obama's first matters of international policy is to make DAUM watchable.
ROFL, that would be a dream come true.
Daum Player has everything....
MVP or PianO allkill are the only logical predictions.
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On January 21 2009 07:30 lgdDante wrote:Show nested quote +On January 21 2009 07:07 sung_moon wrote:On January 21 2009 06:40 lgdDante wrote:How can you predict a BO win? This is a sad day. First day without Corinthos Also the first day with Obama. I'm struggling to decide which affects me more. wht? OBAMA!!!!! but seriously, that was really impressive movie but give savior a chance. i wanta see more of him go go cj Hopefully one of Obama's first matters of international policy is to make DAUM watchable.
Hahaha. If only.
EffOrt for all-kill!
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I'm rooting for Stars. They have quite a bit of underrated players, and would like to see some of them shine.
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Aotearoa39261 Posts
I really hope Stars win this
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Cayman Islands24199 Posts
oh so they are starting guemchi every time. oh
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This looks promising for my FPL team. I better see some Booya worth action! I want both teams to win though
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EffOrt for all-kill! Gogogo.
However, secretly, I kinda want EffOrt to lose so sAviOr can all-kill instead  .
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why send out free on harmony when you can send him out on chupung?
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On January 21 2009 10:31 fusionsdf wrote:why send out free on harmony when you can send him out on chupung?
Lol i only looked at the maps briefly. Do you think they will send ggplay/zero on NHarmony?
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Sweden33719 Posts
EffOrt you better all-kill --;
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On January 21 2009 10:52 Camlito wrote:Show nested quote +On January 21 2009 10:31 fusionsdf wrote:why send out free on harmony when you can send him out on chupung? Lol i only looked at the maps briefly. Do you think they will send ggplay/zero on NHarmony?
Seeing as they have no good Terrans and PvZ is very much a slippery slope on Neo Harmony I would say that they would be the best choices if EffOrt wins game one.
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Your predictions actually made sense.
Thanks for not selling out and doing a gay "LOL SAVIOR ALL-KILL" prediction.
AKA Nice thread.
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On January 21 2009 11:01 []p4NDemik[] wrote:Show nested quote +On January 21 2009 10:52 Camlito wrote:On January 21 2009 10:31 fusionsdf wrote:why send out free on harmony when you can send him out on chupung? Lol i only looked at the maps briefly. Do you think they will send ggplay/zero on NHarmony? Seeing as they have no good Terrans and PvZ is very much a slippery slope on Neo Harmony I would say that they would be the best choices if EffOrt wins game one.
agreed
piano only has use as a tvt sniper and MVP is horribly overrated (and not good vs zerg anyways)
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I wonder how skyhigh will do if he manage to play tonight
+ Show Spoiler +his butt must still hurt after that rape in GOM.
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I'm so excited for these games!
I will live report as long as I have a stream up. Unfortunately, my internet crashes around 8:00 - 8:20 PM here daily, and my ISP insists that it's not on their end.
On January 21 2009 11:40 fusionsdf wrote:Show nested quote +On January 21 2009 11:01 []p4NDemik[] wrote:On January 21 2009 10:52 Camlito wrote:On January 21 2009 10:31 fusionsdf wrote:why send out free on harmony when you can send him out on chupung? Lol i only looked at the maps briefly. Do you think they will send ggplay/zero on NHarmony? Seeing as they have no good Terrans and PvZ is very much a slippery slope on Neo Harmony I would say that they would be the best choices if EffOrt wins game one. agreed piano only has use as a tvt sniper and MVP is horribly overrated (and not good vs zerg anyways)
MVP HORRIBLY OVERRATED?
NONSENSE!
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CJ FIGHTING
^you know its true :D
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Where can I watch? I tried the links but they all lag like shit.
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I need ZerO to pick up some points for me today, or my fantasy hopes are pretty much gone. My team has been seriously under-performing. T_T
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Oh daum. Your perfect audio and terrible visual slide show always makes for such a delightfully frustrating combination!
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anyone has livestream for this match, plz?
I tried all but still can't watch it
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Match has started
Effort is red at 11 o'clock
Guemchi is purple at 1 o'clock
I'm a bit behind since my internet died out at 8:05
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Effort vs. Guemchi starting.
Effort 12 Hatch, Guemchi FEing. Nexus after Forge.
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Not quite sure what Effort did, looks like a overpool expand or 12 hatch -_-
Guemchi with Forge FE, skipping cannons in response to Effort's fast expo
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Hope SkyHigh shows up in this round; I really need the Fantasy points after Flash/JangBi/July issues.
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guemchi standard fe (forge-nexus)
effort 12 hatch (i think)
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Effort taking his third, 3 hatch play
only 1 cannon for Guemchi at his main choke
Core going up for Guemchi
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effort has 4 lings denying guemchi's scouts.
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ok Realpenguin will LR, hes good at it.
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Zealot out for Guemchi, going right for Effort's main, ignoring the 3 zerglings chasing it
The zealot sees a Spire going up in Effort's main
Stargate going up for Guemchi
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effort lost an ovie to goon!
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guemchi stargate/robo
sair/reaver harass expected.
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Robo going up as well for Guemchi
YAHHH EFFORT RUNNING IN 5 LINGS INTO GUEMCHI'S NAT
But not a lot of damage was done.
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Effort almost gets his drone killed while trying to take his 3rd, but gets it up with another drone.
Guemchi sneaks a zealot in and see's efforts spire.
Sair Reaver for Guemchi.
Effort runsby and gets 5 lings through. They disrupt mining a bit, but don't do too much harm.
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Corsair is out, taking out a stray overlord
Effort putting up a hydra den and evo chamber
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what player are you guys using to watch? i'm trying daum player but its buffering up the ass and the sports link isnt any better. =/
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Support Bay finished for Guemchi
Effort flying scourge around Guemchi's main, sees the Support Bay and Stargate
Yahh the pair of scourge snipe a corsair
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Scourges take down a corsair.
Nothing much going on besides that so far.
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1st Reaver out for Guemchi
Observatory going up
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Citadel of Adun going up
Guemchi killing his neutral sunk
Effort putting up spores at each of his bases
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Bunch of hydraling outside of Guemchi's main choke
Shuttle loaded up with Reaver, being escorted by sairs
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Guemchi takes out the sunken near his choke.
Effort massing units; Guemchi seems to upping weapons.
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Spore Colony drives shuttle away. Reavers manage to get one shot and kill about 2 drones.
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Guemchi drops Effort's third with the reaver, only taking out 2 drones and gets the reaver out safely
Hydras still chilling outside Guemchi's base
Guemchi taking his third
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Effort morphing some lurks at his main choke
DT out for Guemchi, bgoing to the bottom right of the map
DT being stalked by overlords
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drop incoming on guemchi.
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OH NO EFFORT LOADING HIS OVIES WITH HYDRALURK
OVERLORDS GOING RIGHT INTO THE NAT
YAHHHH OVERLORDS DROP ALL THEY HAVE, CORSAIRS UNABLE TO STOP THEM
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effort is going to drop...
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didnt do much, got 1 cannon, but its stopping guemchi from mining.
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LURKS BURROWED BEHIND THE NAT MINLINE, PROBES PULLED
SHUTTLE WITH 2 REAVERS COME BACK TO SAVE THE DAY, BUT MINING IS STILL IMPOSSIBLE AT THE NAT
Effort trying to attack Guemchi's 3rd, but is driven off by some storm
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big drop inc on guemchis inside nat.
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guemchi cleans up the mess at his expo and sends zealots to kill Efforts 4th exp.
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Looks like Guemchi lost quite a few Sairs, but the observer missed what happened
YAHHH EFFORT DROPPING A MASS AMOUNT OF HYDRAS ON THE NAT
GUEMCHI BRINGING BACK HIS REAVERS AND A BUNCH OF ZEALOTS TO DEAL WITH IT
HYDRAS GET BACK IN THE OVERLORDS SAFELY AND RUN OFF
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OMG IT SURVIVED WITH LIKE 1 HP
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YAHHH GUEMCHI SENDING ZEALOTS TO SNIPE EFFORT'S 4TH HATCH
IT'S GOING DOWN.... AHHH BUT HYDRAS COMING TO HOLD IT OFF
YAHHH THE HATCHERY LIVES
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Lurkers stopping Guemchi's mining at his natural. Guemchi's reavers clean up the lurkers.
Another drop arriving by Effort. Guemchi sends Zealots over to Effort's 3 o clock, Effort barely saves the hatchery with verryyy little life remaining.
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guemchi storm drops and kills like 6-8 drones.
also finishes off efforts 4th.
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ANOTHER DROP ON GUEMCHI'S NAT, HYDRALURK
Drop is easily dealt with using some new zealots and goons
Guemchi storm dropping a bunch of Effort's bases, getting a decent amount of probes
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Mutas out for effort
Mutas trying to snipe shuttle, but it gets away
Mutas now attacking Guemchi's nat, forcing probes away
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a storm drop behind effort's nat and main
kill some drones
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Lots of zealot/goon/HT come to save the day, but mutas are still alive
YAHH MUTAS RUNNING INTO THE MAIN, SNIPING A REAVER AND A BUNCH OF PROBES
Mutas running off again to the nat
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Effort is so exciting to watch always. Probably because he is so new, its fun to make up your impressions of his gameplay.
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Effort still trying to continue muta harass, but storms have severely damaged them
Guemchi gathering units outside his base, and now moving out towards the middle of the map
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Another storm drop for Guemchi, harassing Effort a bit more with HT.
Trying to discern so much with slideshows is difficult. :[
Mutas attack Guemchi's nat
Mutas fly into Guemchi's main, sniping a reaver and a few probes along the way. Mutas continuing to harass the nat sniping a few more probes.
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Oh, Guem Guem knows its over.
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the upgraded shuttle is chasing by 3mutas and 4 scourges
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Huh, Guemchi sees another drop incoming and brings his entire army back
Drops forced out easily, but still alive
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Drop incoming by Effort apparently. Lands a few hydras into Guemchi's main.
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What stream are you guys using?
daum sports is just a bufferfest, as is daum player
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Effort's 4th and 5th at 3 and 5 o'clock respectively are up and running
Guemchi trying to drop Effort's nat, but it gets taken out by a Spore
Guemchi now moving out with his entire army to Effort's 3 o'clock
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On January 21 2009 13:25 Tropics wrote:
What stream are you guys using?
daum sports is just a bufferfest, as is daum player
Yeah, I have a slideshow going on with my DaumSports. But with the live report it is not bad.
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Effort is ready with a bunch of lurks and hydras, but Guemchi's army takes out most of it
YAHH MORE DROPS IN GUEMCHI'S MAIN, GUEMCHI CONTINUING THE ATTACK WITH HIS MAIN ARMY IN THE BOTTOM RIGHT OF THE MAP
Drops are dealt with using some reinforcements
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man fuck daum, lags so much
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Guemchi trying to sneak an expo at 7 o'clock, but is caught by Effort
Guemchi's army attacking at 5 o'clock is taken out by a large amount of hydralurk
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Effort morphing many lurkers. Guemchi's army moving around in the center.
A few hydras in Effort's army engage Guemchi's ball.
Yet another drop by Effort in Guemchi's main. Guemchi attacks Effort's 5 o clock.
Effort's army cleans Guemchi's attacking force up.
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At the risk of revealing my ignorance, anyone know who the white guy they keep showing is?
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Guemchi desperately trying to secure that 7 o'clock expo, drives off a bunch of hydras with reavers and zealots
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Guemchi has 1 DT going into Effort's bottom-right expo, takes out a few probes, but a Overlord sees it and a nearby sunk takes it out
Effort getting in position to attack Guemchi's main
YAHH GUEMCHI'S ARMY IS IN THE BOTTOM-LEFT OF THE MAP, EFFORT GOING RIGHT FOR GUEMCHI'S 3RD
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On January 21 2009 13:27 Ingenol wrote:
At the risk of revealing my ignorance, anyone know who the white guy they keep showing is?
GuemChi
Be more specific.
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EFFORT TAKES OUTHEAVILY DAMAGES THE 3RD
GUEMCHI'S ARMY JUST CHILLING OUT AND HAVING SOME BEERS AT 7 O'CLOCK
GUEMCHI NOW MOVING OUT, TRYING TO TAKE OUT ONE OF EFFORT'S BASES, BUT IS GETTING FLANKED BY HYDRAS
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On January 21 2009 13:29 Qwertify wrote:Show nested quote +On January 21 2009 13:27 Ingenol wrote:
At the risk of revealing my ignorance, anyone know who the white guy they keep showing is? GuemChiBe more specific.
Ha, in the audience, sorry.
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EFFORT MAKING A BUNCH OF LINGS GOING RIGHT FOR GUEM'S MAIN, BUT ARE TAKEN OUT PROMPTLY BY SOME ARCHONS, ZEALOTS, AND CANNONS
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Effort's basically carving up Guemchi's expansion and main. He snipes a bunch of probes. Guemchi only has one high templar, and loses that too.
Guemchi looks to be finished as his economy is not running well and Effort is just streaming units.
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United States1865 Posts
Man EffOrt is so goddamn solid. Guemchi is no slouch in this matchup (if anyone watched Guemchi vs Yellow[Arnc] recently) but effort is just solidly outplaying him
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On January 21 2009 13:29 Qwertify wrote:Show nested quote +On January 21 2009 13:27 Ingenol wrote:
At the risk of revealing my ignorance, anyone know who the white guy they keep showing is? GuemChiBe more specific.
wtf do you think? dont be a smart-ass for the sake of being a smart-ass. it just shows how fucking lame you are.
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ULTRA CAVERN GOING UP
YAHHH A BUNCH OF HYDRAS CAME OUT OF NOWHERE, FINALLY TAKING OUT GUEMCHI'S THIRD
GUEMCHI'S REMAINING ARMY AT 7 O'CLOCK SLOWLY GETTING WHITTLED DOWN
GUEMCHI GGS
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NOOOOO my hopes for the future are squashed!
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On January 21 2009 13:30 Ingenol wrote:Show nested quote +On January 21 2009 13:29 Qwertify wrote:On January 21 2009 13:27 Ingenol wrote:
At the risk of revealing my ignorance, anyone know who the white guy they keep showing is? GuemChiBe more specific. Ha, in the audience, sorry.
I wish I could help but I only get half the stream with Daum.
Maybe NonY, maybe Tasteless, maybe Artosis. Any one know?
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Guemchi's shuttle sniped by Effort's hydras. Effort going up for Ultralisks. Effort launches yet another attack on Guemchi's 9 o clock. Effort destroys the nexus!
Looks to be gg as Effort attacks Guemchi's main, and yes Guemchi ggs!
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On January 21 2009 13:31 rushz0rz wrote:Show nested quote +On January 21 2009 13:29 Qwertify wrote:On January 21 2009 13:27 Ingenol wrote:
At the risk of revealing my ignorance, anyone know who the white guy they keep showing is? GuemChiBe more specific. wtf do you think? dont be a smart-ass for the sake of being a smart-ass. it just shows how fucking lame you are.
I love you too.
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On January 21 2009 13:32 Qwertify wrote:Show nested quote +On January 21 2009 13:30 Ingenol wrote:On January 21 2009 13:29 Qwertify wrote:On January 21 2009 13:27 Ingenol wrote:
At the risk of revealing my ignorance, anyone know who the white guy they keep showing is? GuemChiBe more specific. Ha, in the audience, sorry. I wish I could help but I only get half the stream with Daum. Maybe NonY, maybe Tasteless, maybe Artosis. Any one know?
Nah, he had long hair, probably just some random white dude. Effort looked insane in that game. Just all over the map with harass and his hydra micro was sick.
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effort is going to destroy this ... 'zero'
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Effort did well against Jaedong I think he can take Zero
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effort lost to jaedong. zero beat jaedong.
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is anybody elses stream laggy =[
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I think they had Zero preparing for an Effort snipe. We shall see.
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On January 21 2009 13:36 Bond(i2) wrote:
is anybody elses stream laggy =[
All my daum sports does is give me Audio. Would be alright if i understood korean :\
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On January 21 2009 13:36 Bond(i2) wrote:
is anybody elses stream laggy =[
You're not the only one. I'm getting slideshows here. It's getting unbearable to watch.
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On January 21 2009 13:34 Choros wrote:
Effort did well against Jaedong I think he can take Zero
Effort is so sick with ZvZ mind games. He is so good at tricking his opponent into what he plans to do. I forget what game it was, but he had his opponent on the backfoot the entire time.
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I think we could see an Effort all kill here. Is the team ranking from proleague continued over to this or does the rankings start fresh?
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On January 21 2009 13:38 MoRe_mInErAls wrote:This thread needs more sAviOr
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gay i hope someone creates a VLC stream for us slideshow watchers
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Zero needs to win this game, and a few more.
Then lose to sAviOr for max FPL points!
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im always curious as to why people try and determine who will win in the ZvZ. when it comes down to it, its completely random and based on luck. doesnt matter who played good against who, whatever you want to think.
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if it comes down to luck, then why is jaedong hovering around 80% win rate in ZvZ?
EDIT: skill level will always be a part of any game.
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On January 21 2009 13:41 animus123 wrote:
if it comes down to luck, then why is jaedong hovering around 80% win rate in ZvZ?
hes just got more luck than others.
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yea and pvp is based on lucky too
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On January 21 2009 13:41 rushz0rz wrote:
im always curious as to why people try and determine who will win in the ZvZ. when it comes down to it, its completely random and based on luck. doesnt matter who played good against who, whatever you want to think.
I disagree to an extent. The most important thing in ZvZ in mutalisk control, who micros the mutas better will be victorious in the end thus Jaedongs 80% winrate zvz. BO wins can have a huge effect though i.e Savior vs Zero in MSL
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On January 21 2009 13:41 rushz0rz wrote:
im always curious as to why people try and determine who will win in the ZvZ. when it comes down to it, its completely random and based on luck. doesnt matter who played good against who, whatever you want to think.
I think the same thing for the most part.
But I still wouldnt bet against Jaedong.
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Effort v. Zero going to start soon. Both players getting ready.
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i think efforts zvz is stronger than zeros, effort will prevail
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On January 21 2009 13:41 rushz0rz wrote:
im always curious as to why people try and determine who will win in the ZvZ. when it comes down to it, its completely random and based on luck. doesnt matter who played good against who, whatever you want to think.
*points at Jaedong and his huge ZvZ win ratio*
Obviously some players are more consistent at it than others.
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HOLY SHIT you just convinced me the entire game is based on luck. I mean every build order beats some other build order. You're a fucking genius
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I think BO is the most important in ZvZ in Savior vs Zero i was saying to myself please Savior 9 pool and Zero 12 hatch. He did = gg. Thats not luck thats Zero taking the risky strat and getting punished.
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On January 21 2009 13:41 rushz0rz wrote:
im always curious as to why people try and determine who will win in the ZvZ. when it comes down to it, its completely random and based on luck. doesnt matter who played good against who, whatever you want to think.
Even though there is more luck involved than other matchups, it is anything but random. In a way you can say it is a mental battle: you must predict how your oponent will think, and then choose your strategy/transitions accordingly. Jaedong's record pretty much proves that there is more than just chance in determining the victor.
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ZvZ isn't about luck, it's more about your opening build order and twitch reflexes.
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On January 21 2009 13:41 rushz0rz wrote:
im always curious as to why people try and determine who will win in the ZvZ. when it comes down to it, its completely random and based on luck. doesnt matter who played good against who, whatever you want to think.
I humbly disagree. I think that, sometimes luck will play a part, such as guessing correctly the perfect counter to a player you feel can beat you in micro/macro head to head. i.e. you can go mass lings and just hope that they scout in the wrong direction and try to go for early muta. I mean if you can tell you will be out played otherwise this might be your best shot.
I didn't see the Zero vs. Jaedong game so I can't tell what happened their.
But if luck is a dominating factor, then Jaedong must be a pretty lucky guy for getting an 80% win record overall.
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lets go effort12 hat vs zero9 pool!!
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On January 21 2009 13:44 MoRe_mInErAls wrote:
HOLY SHIT you just convinced me the entire game is based on luck. I mean every build order beats some other build order. You're a fucking genius
No, you're taking it out of context. ZvZ alone is based on luck. The overall game, however, is not.
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exactly
betting against effort or jaedong zvz is stupid in most cases
its like tiers:
jaedong
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Savior
Yarnc
Lux
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others
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On January 21 2009 13:45 OSWater wrote:
ZvZ isn't about luck, it's more about your opening build order and twitch reflexes.
And picking off scourge really well.
Edit: could be classified as twitch reflexes.
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INTRO PLAYED
FFS GET A NEW SOUNDTRACK OGN
Effort vs Zero STARTING!
Effort is tan at 5 o'clock
Zero is red at 11 o'clock
CROSS POSITIONS!
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Game begins!
Effort is white and is @ 5 o clock
Zero is Red and is @ 11 o clock.
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EFFORT SCOUTING CROSS POSITIONS WITH HIS OVIE? WHAT?
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hahah wtf they all "ooooooh!" when the guy found the camera.
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Zero going with 9 pool speed (?) or was it 12 pool
Effort with a 12 hatch
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On January 21 2009 13:47 Realpenguin wrote:
EFFORT SCOUTING CROSS POSITIONS WITH HIS OVIE? WHAT?
OBVIOUSLY HES BEEN TAUGHT BY SAVIOR
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On January 21 2009 13:47 Realpenguin wrote:
EFFORT SCOUTING CROSS POSITIONS WITH HIS OVIE? WHAT?
It gives you the best chance of knowing their location. If they scout you from one location you know they are there, if they scout in the wrong direction you see the ovi with your own. If they are across then you find out first.
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On January 21 2009 13:46 Choros wrote:Show nested quote +On January 21 2009 13:45 OSWater wrote:
ZvZ isn't about luck, it's more about your opening build order and twitch reflexes. And picking off scourge really well.
The strategy with scourge is to get at least 6 mutas escorting them. So when they snipe your scourge, you get your mutas to fire off one round on their mutas. Since their combined damage will be 118 (compared to the 110 of a scourge) you are dealing more damage in the end this way.
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Seriously though try doing the math. If ZvZ is 50/50 or even 60/40 for Jaedong, it's almost impossible he ends up with 48-13
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Zero also putting a hatch at his nat
Lings out for Zero
Lair upgrading for both players, Effort slightly earlier
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On January 21 2009 13:49 Qwertify wrote:Show nested quote +On January 21 2009 13:46 Choros wrote:On January 21 2009 13:45 OSWater wrote:
ZvZ isn't about luck, it's more about your opening build order and twitch reflexes. And picking off scourge really well. The strategy with scourge is to get at least 6 mutas escorting them. So when they snipe your scourge, you get your mutas to fire off one round on their mutas. Since their combined damage will be 118 (compared to the 110 of a scourge) you are dealing more damage in the end this way.
That is interesting I didnt know that.
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The luck effect is more pronounced in ZvZ on 4 player maps. Already we see Effort with a 12 hatch vs. Zero's 12 pool, both expanding. Effort also has scouted correctly and Zero hasn't.
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Lings out for Effort
Zero sending his lings to Effort's nat, but Effort hatching a lot more
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EffOrt scouts the right direction.
Both players expanding now. ZerO tries to harass EffOrts expansion, but EffOrt has too many zerglings, ZerO backs off.
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Zero being annoying with his lings, attacking his nat hatch from behind and taking out stray lings
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Spire going up for both players, Effort's slightly earlier
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On January 21 2009 13:50 NovaTheFeared wrote:
The luck effect is more pronounced in ZvZ on 4 player maps. Already we see Effort with a 12 hatch vs. Zero's 12 pool, both expanding. Effort also has scouted correctly and Zero hasn't.
I guess the biggest luck factor is start location vs BO vs scout direction. If you 12 hatch and the locations are good and they dont scout then you are well ahead.
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Zero sending more lings to Effort's nat
Effort has a lot more lings than him, forming a line along his nat hatch and his ramp
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Zero just being annoying with them, but not actually engaging his lings
Zero's lings running away, and EFFORT CHASING WITH ALL OF HIS LINGS WHOA
EFFORT'S LINGS ALL OUTSIDE OF ZERO'S NAT
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god i hate the way effort looks and i hope he loses just so i dont have to look at him.
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YAHHHHH ZERO HAS 1 SUNKEN UP AND SUCCESSFULLY HOLDS
EFFORT IS FORCED BACK
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On January 21 2009 13:51 Choros wrote:Show nested quote +On January 21 2009 13:50 NovaTheFeared wrote:
The luck effect is more pronounced in ZvZ on 4 player maps. Already we see Effort with a 12 hatch vs. Zero's 12 pool, both expanding. Effort also has scouted correctly and Zero hasn't. I guess the biggest luck factor is start location vs BO vs scout direction. If you 12 hatch and the locations are good and they dont scout then you are well ahead.
Right.
ZvZ's are so tense. I don't know what it is about them, but I get so anxious watching them.
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Ahahaha Realpenguin has the most enthusiastic LR's that for sure.
Mutas out for Effort. Sniping a few of Zero's lings.
EDIT: Got colors mixed up. X_X
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MUTAS OUT FOR BOTH PLAYERS, ZERO ALREADY USING HIS TO DRIVE OFF THE REST OF EFFORT'S LINGS
Zero's mutas manage to snipe a stray overlord
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sweet i got both free AND skyhigh on my fantasy team!!
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YAHHH MUTAS ENGAGING EACH OTHER OVER EFFORT'S NAT
EFFORT DOES HAVE SCOURGE OUT, AND
there is no clear victor, muta count remains about even
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On January 21 2009 13:52 Qwertify wrote:
ZvZ's are so tense. I don't know what it is about them, but I get so anxious watching them.
Agreed. This is crazy. I think it's the razor thin margins for error.
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On January 21 2009 13:53 OmgIRok wrote:
sweet i got both free AND skyhigh on my fantasy team!!
Good deal. Hopefully they get some game time.
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ZERO IS COMING BACK FOR MORE, AND SOME EXTRA SCOURGE
BOTH PLAYERS USING SCOURGE TO TAKE OUT SOME MUTAS, BUT MUTA COUNT STILL REMAINS ABOUT EVEN
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by your guys' standard, effort should be winning because ZOMG HE DID GOOD VS. JAEDONG WTF WHY ISNT HE WINNING
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zero is really good zvz, but effort has made some really uncharacteristic mistakes
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Zero's scouge sniping looking hot.
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SCRATCH THAT, EFFORT HAS LOST WAY TOO MANY MUTAS, ZERO'S MUTA SHADOW IS A LOT DARKER
YAHHHH EFFORT LOSES ALL HIS MUTAS
EFFORT GGS
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Based on what the commentators are saying, Effort lost 2 overlords. Commentators "wowing" at Zero's muta control? (I could be mixing the two up, their names are so similar. >_>)
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On January 21 2009 13:54 rushz0rz wrote:
by your guys' standard, effort should be winning because ZOMG HE DID GOOD VS. JAEDONG WTF WHY ISNT HE WINNING
you're an idiot
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On January 21 2009 13:52 Qwertify wrote:Show nested quote +On January 21 2009 13:51 Choros wrote:On January 21 2009 13:50 NovaTheFeared wrote:
The luck effect is more pronounced in ZvZ on 4 player maps. Already we see Effort with a 12 hatch vs. Zero's 12 pool, both expanding. Effort also has scouted correctly and Zero hasn't. I guess the biggest luck factor is start location vs BO vs scout direction. If you 12 hatch and the locations are good and they dont scout then you are well ahead. Right. ZvZ's are so tense. I don't know what it is about them, but I get so anxious watching them.
Probably because ZvZ's battles are so fast and so decisive, you have a big muta battle and you loose then its over. And we the watcher doesn't know who is going to win because of stacked mutalisk until suddenly one players stack evaporates into thin air.
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On January 21 2009 13:55 Realpenguin wrote:
SCRATCH THAT, EFFORT HAS LOST WAY TOO MANY MUTAS, ZERO'S MUTA SHADOW IS A LOT DARKER
YAHHHH EFFORT LOSES ALL HIS MUTAS
EFFORT GGS
Wow. Good catch with the shadows.
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I predict they will send out Skyhigh or Iris, becuase of the map.
or maybe Savior cause he dismantled Zero in msl
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I predict Iris will go for a mid game marine push in the vein of Flash last night.
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Well, hopefully ZerO plays good this game.
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zero is good at zvt. i wanna see some pimp play.
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On January 21 2009 14:00 Qwertify wrote:Show nested quote +On January 21 2009 13:56 Choros wrote:
I predict they will send out Skyhigh or Iris, becuase of the map.
or maybe Savior cause he dismantled Zero in msl Good catch. It had to be Terran. They have been doing well against Zerg lately. I think when Nal_keke took out Fantasy, it was like 21-4 in TvZ Proleague, 2 of those 4 came from Keke himself. More recently it has been more even. It kind of started with Iris's loss to Calm.
Also Rushout 3 is really good for Terran putting Iris in a good position if he does win, they will probably send out a terran and Iris is traditionally solid TvT
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I need high speed internet.
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On January 21 2009 14:02 Qwertify wrote:
I need high speed internet.
Wont help Daum Sports the problem is on their end. :\
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On January 21 2009 13:54 rushz0rz wrote:
by your guys' standard, effort should be winning because ZOMG HE DID GOOD VS. JAEDONG WTF WHY ISNT HE WINNING
Because Zero beat JD, something that Effort didn't do?
Please shut up, this is obvious trolling. Obviously, luck is more pronounced in ZvZ than other MUs, but only on non-2 player maps. Also, skill obvious does matter in ZvZ, Jaedong clearly proves that statement.
On January 21 2009 13:41 rushz0rz wrote:
im always curious as to why people try and determine who will win in the ZvZ. when it comes down to it, its completely random and based on luck. doesnt matter who played good against who, whatever you want to think.
lol, srsly.
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ZvZ is luck based. Whoever doesn't admit it is just in denial.
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On January 21 2009 13:38 MoRe_mInErAls wrote:This thread needs more sAviOr
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On January 21 2009 14:06 rushz0rz wrote:
ZvZ is luck based. Whoever doesn't admit it is just in denial.
i chuckled at the irony.
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On January 21 2009 14:06 rushz0rz wrote:
ZvZ is luck based. Whoever doesn't admit it is just in denial.
I am in denial.
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On January 21 2009 14:04 Choros wrote:Wont help Daum Sports the problem is on their end. :\
If you look at the name of the stream, it says whatever ch#_hi iirc. That means it's the hi-def stream so there should be a low-def one somewhere.... Would be awesome if that could be found.
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And again who said 12 hatch wins?
Don't forget to add applying pressure and how much of it to the zvz skill list.
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On January 21 2009 14:07 cunninglinguists wrote:Show nested quote +On January 21 2009 14:06 rushz0rz wrote:
ZvZ is luck based. Whoever doesn't admit it is just in denial. i chuckled at the irony.
Oh, he is being funny. I get it now.
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On January 21 2009 14:08 Jumbalumba wrote:Show nested quote +On January 21 2009 14:04 Choros wrote:On January 21 2009 14:02 Qwertify wrote:
I need high speed internet. Wont help Daum Sports the problem is on their end. :\ If you look at the name of the stream, it says whatever ch#_hi iirc. That means it's the hi-def stream so there should be a low-def one somewhere.... Would be awesome if that could be found.
We need someone who understands Korean to investigate this.
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On January 21 2009 14:00 Qwertify wrote:Show nested quote +On January 21 2009 13:56 Choros wrote:
I predict they will send out Skyhigh or Iris, becuase of the map.
or maybe Savior cause he dismantled Zero in msl Good catch. It had to be Terran. They have been doing well against Zerg lately. I think when Nal_keke took out Fantasy, it was like 21-4 in TvZ Proleague, 2 of those 4 came from Keke himself. More recently it has been more even. It kind of started with Iris's loss to Calm.
It's because of the map. It's pretty good for Zerg, but also Rush Hour 3 follows up, so if IriS wins he will need to continue on RH3, which is a great map for Terrans.
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On January 21 2009 14:06 rushz0rz wrote:
ZvZ is luck based. Whoever doesn't admit it is just in denial.
That's fine, but so is every MU. If you go 9pool against 14CC=> Auto win due to luck. However, 1) You get free scouting in ZvZ, something that's not true for any of the other MUs, which reduces the "luck" factor and 2) let's remember your initial statement:
On January 21 2009 13:41 rushz0rz wrote:
im always curious as to why people try and determine who will win in the ZvZ. when it comes down to it, its completely random and based on luck. doesnt matter who played good against who, whatever you want to think.
That is blatantly false.
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On January 21 2009 14:09 Fontong wrote:
YES plz iris do a sweep!
How is the OGN vs MBC game going?
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On January 21 2009 14:08 Qwertify wrote:Show nested quote +On January 21 2009 14:06 rushz0rz wrote:
ZvZ is luck based. Whoever doesn't admit it is just in denial. I am in denial.
One player has good stats so that completely disproves my statement? It doesn't, sorry. There is always an exception, but that doesn't deter from the fact that ZvZ is luck based.
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On January 21 2009 14:10 Qwertify wrote:How is the OGN vs MBC game going?
Sea > Go.Go
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On January 21 2009 14:10 rushz0rz wrote:Show nested quote +On January 21 2009 14:08 Qwertify wrote:On January 21 2009 14:06 rushz0rz wrote:
ZvZ is luck based. Whoever doesn't admit it is just in denial. I am in denial. One player has good stats so that completely disproves my statement? It doesn't, sorry. There is always an exception, but that doesn't deter from the fact that ZvZ is luck based.
PvP is luck based.
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On January 21 2009 14:08 Qwertify wrote:Show nested quote +On January 21 2009 14:06 rushz0rz wrote:
ZvZ is luck based. Whoever doesn't admit it is just in denial. I am in denial.
Jaedong obviously messes up his opponents luck by sending a black cat across the way which in turn makes him win ^.^
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On January 21 2009 14:11 Choros wrote:Show nested quote +On January 21 2009 14:10 Qwertify wrote:On January 21 2009 14:09 Fontong wrote:
YES plz iris do a sweep! How is the OGN vs MBC game going? Sea > Go.Go
+ Show Spoiler +
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Well, we do admit that there is some luck involved. However, "completely random and luck based" adds the qualifier completely, which makes it undeniably false.
I certainly don't have a 50% chance of beating Jaedong.
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On January 21 2009 14:11 Camlito wrote:Show nested quote +On January 21 2009 14:10 rushz0rz wrote:On January 21 2009 14:08 Qwertify wrote:On January 21 2009 14:06 rushz0rz wrote:
ZvZ is luck based. Whoever doesn't admit it is just in denial. I am in denial. One player has good stats so that completely disproves my statement? It doesn't, sorry. There is always an exception, but that doesn't deter from the fact that ZvZ is luck based. PvP is luck based.
Starcraft is luck based with this logic ^.^
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INTRO PLAYED
Iris VS Zero STARTING!
Iris is green at 7 o'clock
Zero is teal at 1 o'clock
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On January 21 2009 14:10 rushz0rz wrote:Show nested quote +On January 21 2009 14:08 Qwertify wrote:On January 21 2009 14:06 rushz0rz wrote:
ZvZ is luck based. Whoever doesn't admit it is just in denial. I am in denial. One player has good stats so that completely disproves my statement? It doesn't, sorry. There is always an exception, but that doesn't deter from the fact that ZvZ is luck based.
Luxury. You think that "its completely random and based on luck". Don't tone it down. Support your views, come on!
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I have to admit, I like Woongjin more than CJ, but I want Iris to take this.
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IRIS SENDING OUT AN EARLY SCV
PROXY RAX IN THE MIDDLE
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On January 21 2009 14:10 Avidkeystamper wrote:Show nested quote +On January 21 2009 14:06 rushz0rz wrote:
ZvZ is luck based. Whoever doesn't admit it is just in denial. That's fine, but so is every MU. If you go 9pool against 14CC=> Auto win due to luck. However, 1) You get free scouting in ZvZ, something that's not true for any of the other MUs, which reduces the "luck" factor and 2) let's remember your initial statement: Show nested quote +On January 21 2009 13:41 rushz0rz wrote:
im always curious as to why people try and determine who will win in the ZvZ. when it comes down to it, its completely random and based on luck. doesnt matter who played good against who, whatever you want to think. That is blatantly false.
you're arguing with a troll
hes a generally shitty poster, so I'm just patiently waiting for the day he slips up enough to get banned
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On January 21 2009 14:14 Avidkeystamper wrote:Show nested quote +On January 21 2009 14:10 rushz0rz wrote:On January 21 2009 14:08 Qwertify wrote:On January 21 2009 14:06 rushz0rz wrote:
ZvZ is luck based. Whoever doesn't admit it is just in denial. I am in denial. One player has good stats so that completely disproves my statement? It doesn't, sorry. There is always an exception, but that doesn't deter from the fact that ZvZ is luck based. Luxury. You think that " its completely random and based on luck". Don't tone it down. Support your views, come on!
Maybe my first statement was a bit exaggerated. It's more luck based than any other match up, more luck based than skill based. Obviously there are degrees of skill required.
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On January 21 2009 14:13 wonkman wrote:Show nested quote +On January 21 2009 14:11 Camlito wrote:On January 21 2009 14:10 rushz0rz wrote:On January 21 2009 14:08 Qwertify wrote:On January 21 2009 14:06 rushz0rz wrote:
ZvZ is luck based. Whoever doesn't admit it is just in denial. I am in denial. One player has good stats so that completely disproves my statement? It doesn't, sorry. There is always an exception, but that doesn't deter from the fact that ZvZ is luck based. PvP is luck based. Starcraft is luck based with this logic ^.^
That's what i was going for . Any matchup can be luck based, it's just mirrors (mainly pvp and zvz) are more pronounced, ZvZ more than PvP.
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go Iris! go berserker on this zero kid
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My stream is lagging so much right now eek
Looks like Zero did 12 hatch, and Iris is failing to put his bunker up at Zero's nat
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Lol, Xellos approves of the bunker rush, nods in agreement.
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IRIS GETS THE BUNKER UP, IN RANGE OF THE NAT HATCH
ITS HP SLOWLY GOING DOWN
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Horrible bunker rush defense from Zero. Already lost 6 drones.
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On January 21 2009 14:15 rushz0rz wrote:Show nested quote +On January 21 2009 14:14 Avidkeystamper wrote:On January 21 2009 14:10 rushz0rz wrote:On January 21 2009 14:08 Qwertify wrote:On January 21 2009 14:06 rushz0rz wrote:
ZvZ is luck based. Whoever doesn't admit it is just in denial. I am in denial. One player has good stats so that completely disproves my statement? It doesn't, sorry. There is always an exception, but that doesn't deter from the fact that ZvZ is luck based. Luxury. You think that " its completely random and based on luck". Don't tone it down. Support your views, come on! Maybe my first statement was a bit exaggerated. It's more luck based than any other match up, more luck based than skill based. Obviously there are degrees of skill required.
Obviously, it's more skill-based than luck based since most of the time it's 9pool vs 9pool on 2 player maps.
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ZERO HASTILY GETTING LINGS, GOING RIGHT FOR THE BUNKER
LINGS SET THE BUNKER ON FIRE, BUT DIE BEFORE KILLING IT
YAHH THE BUNKER BURNS TO DEATH, BUT THE HATCH IS DEAD
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LOL nice micro ! all-red bunker!
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On January 21 2009 14:10 rushz0rz wrote:Show nested quote +On January 21 2009 14:08 Qwertify wrote:On January 21 2009 14:06 rushz0rz wrote:
ZvZ is luck based. Whoever doesn't admit it is just in denial. I am in denial. One player has good stats so that completely disproves my statement? It doesn't, sorry. There is always an exception, but that doesn't deter from the fact that ZvZ is luck based.
Ok, if you are serious about this, then yes, Jaedong's stats do ruin your theory. I really don't see how you can reconcile that fact. Its like those astronomers that thought everything revolved around the Earth. The fact the Venus's orbit made no sense was just an exception to their theory.
But it wasn't. They were just fooling themselves.
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SOME NEW LINGS JUST HATCHED TO CLEAN UP THE LINGS
IRIS FINISHING UP A STARPORT IN HIS MAIN!
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omg I refreshed the page and the stream started working
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poor zero, iris' micro was suprisingly good, though I guess all progamers should have good micro that early on.
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Zero trying to replace his hatch now
Zero finally taking his first gas
Vult out for Iris, in the back of Zero's nat
Wraith out for Iris, taking out some overlords
ZERO GGS
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i would of rather had zero continue and all kill but i suppose iris can do so =_= dont fail me iris i need points >_< I DONT LIKE BEING DEAD LAST
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FUCK U IRIS CHEESING NEWB
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GG. Iris just wanted to get onto the Rushour 3 ownage.
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Iris raped zero something nasty
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On January 21 2009 14:19 Bond(i2) wrote:
FUCK U IRIS CHEESING NEWB
ahahahaahahaahhahahahahahaha mad are we?!
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Iris making Starport!
Zero has nothing to counter, NOTHING
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i cant believe someone actually arguing with rushzors
iris good job, that was raped
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I would love to see an Iris kill all
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lets see GGPlay mop shit up
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On January 21 2009 14:19 arb wrote:
Iris raped zero something nasty
Iris is the apple of my eye.
+ Show Spoiler +No Savior is, but saying it that way isn't as fun.
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Zero's still not ready yet. Sigh =\ ...
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On January 21 2009 14:20 Choros wrote:
I would love to see an Iris kill all
he is capable of that too
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now CJ coach telling iris the next cheese strat for free
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I stole this VLC link from the ACE vs KHAN thread, and I changed the link a bit, stream is working for me (VLC)
mms://216.121.92.139/ogn (Thanks so much aers <3 <3 <3)
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Its a protoss! This map is 20-7 in favor of Terran. Its because you cannot flank their army.
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now CJ coach telling iris the next cheese strat for free
and its the same thing  proxi rax into bunk rush :D yes vs toss
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go iris!! slay that dragon!!
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Free can get the win here CJ will send out Savior
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free rapes iris, savior rapes free and someone else to win
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On January 21 2009 14:22 OmgIRok wrote:I stole this VLC link from the ACE vs KHAN thread, and I changed the link a bit, stream is working for me (VLC) mms://216.121.92.139/ogn (Thanks so much aers <3 <3 <3)
gj working for me too
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On January 21 2009 14:22 Choros wrote:
Its a protoss! This map is 20-7 in favor of Terran. Its because you cannot flank their army.
And because you can secure expansions with a slow push.
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yes free is THIS good to be picked here
hope his reaver into arbiters comes fast
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On January 21 2009 14:22 OmgIRok wrote:I stole this VLC link from the ACE vs KHAN thread, and I changed the link a bit, stream is working for me (VLC) mms://216.121.92.139/ogn (Thanks so much aers <3 <3 <3)
TYTY!
Nothing was working for me. =]
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Who is this red-haired noob? Iris has OSL medals, he shouldn't have to deal with this. Send GGplay out
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Iris would be a fool to rush. Just get tanks defend his harass and abuse the map imbalance (which makes tanks UBER)
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On January 21 2009 14:22 OmgIRok wrote:I stole this VLC link from the ACE vs KHAN thread, and I changed the link a bit, stream is working for me (VLC) mms://216.121.92.139/ogn (Thanks so much aers <3 <3 <3)
Sex. Me love you and aers longtime. <3
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On January 21 2009 14:23 zulu_nation8 wrote:
free rapes iris, savior rapes free and someone else to win
You read my mind.
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On January 21 2009 14:21 Bond(i2) wrote:
now CJ coach telling iris the next cheese strat for free
Free cheese is more likely imo
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free is gonna cock smack iris with his big dragon shlong
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On January 21 2009 14:26 rushz0rz wrote:
free is gonna cock smack iris with his big dragon shlong
Iris is entering berserker mode to slay his ass.
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On January 21 2009 14:26 rushz0rz wrote:
free is gonna cock smack iris with his big dragon shlong
Thank you. That was insightful.
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I predict Iris will go for a mid game timing push prob 2 Fact and loose to Free micro.
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If Iris really did bunker rush Free that would be the most LOL thing of the year so far
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Who do you guys think CJ will send if CJ loses?
Movie?
SkyHigh?
Savior?
Much? (Unlikely)
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On January 21 2009 14:28 Qwertify wrote:Show nested quote +On January 21 2009 14:26 rushz0rz wrote:
free is gonna cock smack iris with his big dragon shlong Thank you. That was insightful.
yes everything posted on a starcraft forum has to be insightful, with deep meaning, revealing the mysteries of our very existence.
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On January 21 2009 14:29 Qwertify wrote:
Who do you guys think CJ will send if CJ loses?
Movie?
SkyHigh?
Savior?
Much? (Unlikely)
movie because of the map, maybe savior
otherwise it would be skyhigh
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On January 21 2009 14:30 rushz0rz wrote:Show nested quote +On January 21 2009 14:28 Qwertify wrote:On January 21 2009 14:26 rushz0rz wrote:
free is gonna cock smack iris with his big dragon shlong Thank you. That was insightful. yes everything posted on a starcraft forum has to be insightful, with deep meaning, revealing the mysteries of our very existence.
SO you finally agree on something.
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INTRO PLAYED
Iris vs Free STARTING!
Iris is white at 3 o'clock
Free is teal at 11 o'clock
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On January 21 2009 14:29 Qwertify wrote:
Who do you guys think CJ will send if CJ loses?
Movie?
SkyHigh?
Savior?
Much? (Unlikely)
Either Savior Movie or Much. Reason, next map is Medusa so forget Terran but it is really balanced ZvP though. Savior did well against free last time they met on Medusa but he still lost so Movie is probably going to be the one not Much as they would not be confident in him against Free at present.
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._. my internets failing hard, so im gonna request a LR since i cant watch the stream
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everyone agrees that my penis is huge...and that starcraft is an enjoyable game.
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On January 21 2009 14:30 rushz0rz wrote:Show nested quote +On January 21 2009 14:28 Qwertify wrote:On January 21 2009 14:26 rushz0rz wrote:
free is gonna cock smack iris with his big dragon shlong Thank you. That was insightful. yes everything posted on a starcraft forum has to be insightful, with deep meaning, revealing the mysteries of our very existence.
There is a Troll detected in the vicinity hurry run!!
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AH REALPENGUIN GETTIN' IT ON WOOT HYPE
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FREE UNZIPPING HIS JACKET
HOT
Standard stuff so far
Iris opting for a wallin with his depot and rax
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I don't quite understand why Woongjin sent out Free right now. I thought Rush Hour 3 was quite a horrible map for PvT, so why do they want to risk their Ace on such terms?
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On January 21 2009 14:33 Qwertify wrote:Damn, I have work early tomorrow. + Show Spoiler +
Makes me proud to be an Aussie where the games start at 3pm
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On January 21 2009 14:34 DarkOptik wrote:
I don't quite understand why Woongjin sent out Free right now. I thought Rush Hour 3 was quite a horrible map for PvT, so why do they want to risk their Ace on such terms?
Agreed.
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Core going up for Free, skipping zealot
Free scouts the wrong way with his scouting probe
Iris scouts the right way with his SCV\
Fact started for Iris
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Free in green at the 11 oclock.
Iris in white at the three.
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On January 21 2009 14:34 DarkOptik wrote:
I don't quite understand why Woongjin sent out Free right now. I thought Rush Hour 3 was quite a horrible map for PvT, so why do they want to risk their Ace on such terms?
because, as my compadre rushz0rz eloquently puts it:
On January 21 2009 14:26 rushz0rz wrote:
free is gonna cock smack iris with his big dragon shlong
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Range upgrading for Free (1 gate at the moment)
Iris hiding an SCV at 9 o'clock expo
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On January 21 2009 14:34 DarkOptik wrote:
I don't quite understand why Woongjin sent out Free right now. I thought Rush Hour 3 was quite a horrible map for PvT, so why do they want to risk their Ace on such terms?
Maybe they figure that if Iris does win than they can send out ggplay on Medusa which favors Z over T?
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Iris building a CC in his main to be lifted
Free adding a Robo
Free's first goon pressuring Iris's wall, attacking the depot and SCVs repairing it
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On January 21 2009 14:34 DarkOptik wrote:
I don't quite understand why Woongjin sent out Free right now. I thought Rush Hour 3 was quite a horrible map for PvT, so why do they want to risk their Ace on such terms?
Because the coaches are idiots?
Not to mention Iris is up 2-0 lifetime vs. free, though it might not mean much nowadays.
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Free with another goon blocking his ramp.... or not
Scouting SCV gets right in there, but doesn't see the Robo (?)
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On January 21 2009 14:36 erin[go]bragh wrote:Show nested quote +On January 21 2009 14:34 DarkOptik wrote:
I don't quite understand why Woongjin sent out Free right now. I thought Rush Hour 3 was quite a horrible map for PvT, so why do they want to risk their Ace on such terms? Because the coaches are idiots? Not to mention Iris is up 2-0 lifetime vs. free, though it might not mean much nowadays.
The decisions coaches make sometimes blows my mind.
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Iris moving out of his wall with 4 rines/1 vult/1 tank
Free goign back to Iris's nat with 3 goons, picking off all the marines
Support Bay finished for Free, and shuttle is out
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I'll die happy when I see a terran go a bio build v protoss and win.
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On January 21 2009 14:36 erin[go]bragh wrote:Show nested quote +On January 21 2009 14:34 DarkOptik wrote:
I don't quite understand why Woongjin sent out Free right now. I thought Rush Hour 3 was quite a horrible map for PvT, so why do they want to risk their Ace on such terms? Because the coaches are idiots? Not to mention Iris is up 2-0 lifetime vs. free, though it might not mean much nowadays.
I think that they just need to send out a good player at this Point, and free[gm] is better than GGPlay at the moment.
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lol slow vulture manages to sneak into the main with one hit remaining only to get killed by a probe.
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2 slow vults going along the middle of the map to Free's main
Free luckily had goons in the right position to take 1 of them out
Other one is at red health going into Free's main.... OH SNAP A PROBE TAKES IT OUT
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HAHAHAHAH hero probe.
and i think its been stated that coaches usually send out players to certain maps based on who is doing the best on it in practice.
im sure you'd be a much better coach armed with TLPD.
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OH MY GOD FUCKING SCARABS
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Free's shuttle is loaded with a reaver, going for Iris's main
Iris sending out more vults around the bottom of the map
Free drops the reaver ON TOP OF A MINE AT IRIS'S NAT AHHHH, NO DAMAGE IS DONE
FREE DROPPING THE MAIN NOW, 1 ZEALOT/1 REAVER
NO DAMAGE AGAIN
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MAN free is having no luck
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OMG FREE DROPS IT ON ANOTHER MINE AT IRIS'S NAT
AHHHH HE PICKS IT UP JUST IN TIME
NO SCV DAMAGE AGAIN
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On January 21 2009 14:38 rushz0rz wrote:
HAHAHAHAH hero probe.
and i think its been stated that coaches usually send out players to certain maps based on who is doing the best on it in practice.
im sure you'd be a much better coach armed with TLPD.
Its possible TLPD is a detriment. It shows you how good players used to be as opposed to how they are preforming today. I mean Lux pwned the crap out of Jangbi the other day. TLDP would tell you to not send him out under any circumstance.
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On January 21 2009 14:38 rushz0rz wrote:
HAHAHAHAH hero probe.
and i think its been stated that coaches usually send out players to certain maps based on who is doing the best on it in practice.
im sure you'd be a much better coach armed with TLPD.
Wow I actually agree.
Yeah, I was going to say. Coaches get to see a lot more games and how they pan out on certain maps. It might be the case the Free excels at his game on RH3, in his PvT matchup. So over the few games we have seen, we might be wrong in terms of how a player will fare.
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Citadel of Adun going up for Free
Free's shuttle still at large near Iris's main and nat
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Free moving out with about a dozen goons and some obs, chasing down vultures and defusing mines
Free's third is up at 9 o'clock, not saturated yet
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On January 21 2009 14:23 zulu_nation8 wrote:
free rapes iris, savior rapes free and someone else to win
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Iris's vults discover a pylon wall at the 3 o'clock ramp
Iris moving out quite early with tank/vult towards 3 o'clock
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Observer spots the army movement and Free getting his zealot/goon in position
A few stray mines damaging Free's army
Free's army surrounding Iris's tank clump
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right now free is thinking 'why the fuck did they send me out on this map :|'
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Free trying to attack the push with his reaver, but mismicros and loses it
Free getting one good zealot bomb off, but the tank/vult is breaking into 9 o'clock
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Reaver down.
And now shuttle as well.
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The pylon wall is totally broken, tank/vult moving in to destroy it
Iris also pushing towards Free's nat, preventing Free from mining
FREE BRINGING BACK HIS ARMY AND ENGAGING
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if iris wins this, then we'll see a ggplay vs iris rematch.
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did he even lose the nexus at that expo?
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FREE'S ARMY IS PUSHING BACK THE TANK/VULT PUSH
FREE TAKES OUT ALMOST ALL OF IRIS'S TANK/VULT, BUT IRIS ALREADY HAS A BUNCH OF REINFORCEMENTS HEADING ALONG THE TOP OF THE MAP
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Iris's army moving towards the middle again
FREE MOVING IN WITH HIS ZEALOT/GOON, ENGAGING THE ARMY
FREE IS FORCED BACK WITH FEW LOSSES
IRIS CONTINUING TO PUSH ALONG THE LEFT-SIDE OF THE MAP
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is it just me or free needs more zealots
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free cleans up the attack
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Iris with a small army at the top of the map, can easily attack Free's nat
FREE BREAKING THE PUSH AT 3 O'CLOCK WITH EASE
YAHHH BUT IRIS IS ATTACKING THE NAT NOW, FREE HASTILY BRINGING BACK HIS ARMY
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Free has slow zelots.
EDIT: they are now fast
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YAHHH THE TANKS CLEAN UP FREE'S ARMY
FREE GGS
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free plz dont lose, my fantasy team is going down the drain
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WTF FREE WHY U GIVE UP SO SOON
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amazing how retarded some coaches are rofl
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good job iris go kill some more
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i'm like yess free can actually win on this imba map... then i blinked and he gg'd
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GG well done Iris. Played nice and standard. Abused the map imbalance. Thats what i like to see from my favorite Terran.
Still hoping Iris all kill.
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Since all you guys went to the VLC stream Daum has cleared up alot. Coincidence?
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On January 21 2009 14:48 Choros wrote:
GG well done Iris. Played nice and standard. Abused the map imbalance. Thats what i like to see from my favorite Terran.
Still hoping Iris all kill.
it's not considered a true all-kill unless you go 4-0. 3 kills is obviously still impressive though.
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im possible for iris all kill seeing effort alrdy won a game :O
edit: To late >.>
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On January 21 2009 14:48 food wrote:
amazing how retarded some coaches are rofl
Yeah it is.
Seriously that was sending the lamb to the slaughter
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On January 21 2009 14:49 Choros wrote:
Since all you guys went to the VLC stream Daum has cleared up alot. Coincidence?
No.
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I think they sent out Free because its just such a good string of maps if he happened to win on RH3. Well, for PvT anyway...
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On January 21 2009 14:50 Qwertify wrote:Show nested quote +On January 21 2009 14:49 Choros wrote:
Since all you guys went to the VLC stream Daum has cleared up alot. Coincidence? No.
I heard they cut the bandwidth to foreigners alot. They must have cut it by ALOT!
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oh shiiit ggplays up, GL IRIS UR FUCKED AHAHA
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On January 21 2009 14:51 Realpenguin wrote:
STARS SENDING OUT
GGPLAY
My predictions rule once more.
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On January 21 2009 14:49 LosingID8 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 21 2009 14:48 Choros wrote:
GG well done Iris. Played nice and standard. Abused the map imbalance. Thats what i like to see from my favorite Terran.
Still hoping Iris all kill. it's not considered a true all-kill unless you go 4-0. 3 kills is obviously still impressive though.
It is still true however, if the opposing team wins even the first game or games.
I think if you win 4 after losing 3, it is called a reverse all-kill.
I think that is right.
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Iris for the near all-kill!
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On January 21 2009 14:51 Choros wrote:My predictions rule once more.
It's not that hard to guess that they will send out GGPlay after they have used Guemchi, Zero, and Free.
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GOOOOOO CJ!!!!!
GOOO CJJJJ!!!
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waaahhh my name got taken off the OP! llol oh well. My time in the limelight is short-lived.
OH OH I KNOW!!
put "Thank OmgIRok. Credits to aers"
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On January 21 2009 14:51 Qwertify wrote:Show nested quote +On January 21 2009 14:49 LosingID8 wrote:On January 21 2009 14:48 Choros wrote:
GG well done Iris. Played nice and standard. Abused the map imbalance. Thats what i like to see from my favorite Terran.
Still hoping Iris all kill. it's not considered a true all-kill unless you go 4-0. 3 kills is obviously still impressive though. It is still true however, if the opposing team wins even the first game or games. I think if you win 4 after losing 3, it is called a reverse all-kill. I think that is right.
the player has to 4-0, not the team
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imo ggplay on Rh3 seemed more obvious with his swarm shit
i dont get the decision process, i must be missing something
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I call that Iris will take this to the end right here and now. If not, then I guess Savior will just have to clean things up.
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reverse all kill is somewhat of an odd term..regardless of the position an all kill is an all kill the reverse part is somewhat superfluous.
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did anyone else feel like free was playing better in that game, but the map imbalance was just suffocating? Seriously Iris was able to sustain huge losses and made one rather major mistake when he lost his whole army south of free's natural, but he was still able to get away with it. Whatever I'll take it.
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On January 21 2009 14:53 []p4NDemik[] wrote:
did anyone else feel like free was playing better in that game, but the map imbalance was just suffocating? Seriously Iris was able to sustain huge losses and made one rather major mistake when he lost his whole army south of free's natural, but he was still able to get away with it. Whatever I'll take it.
Not to mention his unlucky scarabs. God that was hard to watch.
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On January 21 2009 14:52 fusionsdf wrote:Show nested quote +On January 21 2009 14:51 Qwertify wrote:On January 21 2009 14:49 LosingID8 wrote:On January 21 2009 14:48 Choros wrote:
GG well done Iris. Played nice and standard. Abused the map imbalance. Thats what i like to see from my favorite Terran.
Still hoping Iris all kill. it's not considered a true all-kill unless you go 4-0. 3 kills is obviously still impressive though. It is still true however, if the opposing team wins even the first game or games. I think if you win 4 after losing 3, it is called a reverse all-kill. I think that is right. the player has to 4-0, not the team
Ok. A team can only send one player out for the entire length of the match right? So you can't have BeSt[WHITE] in the first match, and then again for the seventh, like you could in the original proleague, right?
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On January 21 2009 14:52 food wrote:
imo ggplay on Rh3 seemed more obvious with his swarm shit
i dont get the decision process, i must be missing something
It was terrible to send out their best player against a strong tvp'er on a heavily terran favored map, its kinda dumb no matter how you look it at. Even if ggplay loses free gets to play on a better map.
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I think that the Stars are pretty much screwed. I dunn think that GGplay can win 3 in a row
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On January 21 2009 14:53 []p4NDemik[] wrote:
did anyone else feel like free was playing better in that game, but the map imbalance was just suffocating? Seriously Iris was able to sustain huge losses and made one rather major mistake when he lost his whole army south of free's natural, but he was still able to get away with it. Whatever I'll take it.
i think in that very last fight at frees nat he stepped on a mine like killed lik 5 goons? then he just microd like shit and lost the rest.. it was rather sad
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On January 21 2009 14:53 mog87 wrote:
reverse all kill is somewhat of an odd term..regardless of the position an all kill is an all kill the reverse part is somewhat superfluous. Not at all. All-kill- sweeping the set. Reverse all-kill: making a gigantic comeback and sweeping the set.
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ROFL both this channel and the MBC channel of OGN vs MBC both have the exact same commerical out right now!!! LOLLERKSKATES!
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On January 21 2009 14:53 mog87 wrote:
reverse all kill is somewhat of an odd term..regardless of the position an all kill is an all kill the reverse part is somewhat superfluous.
Well it lets you know that whoever won the four games was under the pressure of dropping the entire match every single time.
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On January 21 2009 14:52 rushz0rz wrote:Show nested quote +On January 21 2009 14:51 Choros wrote:On January 21 2009 14:51 Realpenguin wrote:
STARS SENDING OUT
GGPLAY My predictions rule once more. It's not that hard to guess that they will send out GGPlay after they have used Guemchi, Zero, and Free.
Well no I predicted GGplay because of the map, just like I predicted Iris for the same reason.
Playing mystarcraft has given me alot of insight into the mind of coaches. If you havent played this game you should.
My predictions are nothing special they are simple logic.
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On January 21 2009 14:55 Bond(i2) wrote:Show nested quote +On January 21 2009 14:53 []p4NDemik[] wrote:
did anyone else feel like free was playing better in that game, but the map imbalance was just suffocating? Seriously Iris was able to sustain huge losses and made one rather major mistake when he lost his whole army south of free's natural, but he was still able to get away with it. Whatever I'll take it. i think in that very last fight at frees nat he stepped on a mine like killed lik 5 goons? then he just microd like shit and lost the rest.. it was rather sad
By the time it got to that engagement it was already decided, or at least thats how I felt. Before that though I felt free was outplaying Iris but couldn't get any traction because of RH3.
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EW WHATS WITH THAT KOREAN GIRL TRYING TO SING IN ENGLISH!?!?
oh dude OP DUDE PUT MY NAME IN THE OP PLEASE I NEED TO BE FAMOUS!!
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oh no Choros, just leave it alone...
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LOLOL jus the tuu uh us ee can ake ih if ee tieee jus the tuuuh us yeuu and i
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On January 21 2009 14:54 Qwertify wrote:Show nested quote +On January 21 2009 14:52 fusionsdf wrote:On January 21 2009 14:51 Qwertify wrote:On January 21 2009 14:49 LosingID8 wrote:On January 21 2009 14:48 Choros wrote:
GG well done Iris. Played nice and standard. Abused the map imbalance. Thats what i like to see from my favorite Terran.
Still hoping Iris all kill. it's not considered a true all-kill unless you go 4-0. 3 kills is obviously still impressive though. It is still true however, if the opposing team wins even the first game or games. I think if you win 4 after losing 3, it is called a reverse all-kill. I think that is right. the player has to 4-0, not the team Ok. A team can only send one player out for the entire length of the match right? So you can't have BeSt[WHITE] in the first match, and then again for the seventh, like you could in the original proleague, right?
thats right
there is no ace match in this format
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On January 21 2009 14:54 mog87 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 21 2009 14:52 food wrote:
imo ggplay on Rh3 seemed more obvious with his swarm shit
i dont get the decision process, i must be missing something It was terrible to send out their best player against a strong tvp'er on a heavily terran favored map, its kinda dumb no matter how you look it at. Even if ggplay loses free gets to play on a better map.
More accurately if GGplay looses then Free gets to play on a map that heavily (really heavily) favors P over T watch Movie vs Light for crying out loud Movie was comprehensively out played imo. Like I said the decisions coaches make blows my mind.
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Wow, free[gm] was pretty bad in that last game.
Sorry, I get so bored during these commercials.
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On January 21 2009 14:58 OmgIRok wrote:
EW WHATS WITH THAT KOREAN GIRL TRYING TO SING IN ENGLISH!?!?
oh dude OP DUDE PUT MY NAME IN THE OP PLEASE I NEED TO BE FAMOUS!!
I thought aers was the one providing the stream and you just posted it here? if that's not the case I'll change it.
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On January 21 2009 14:58 OmgIRok wrote:
oh dude OP DUDE PUT MY NAME IN THE OP PLEASE I NEED TO BE FAMOUS!!
why would your name be in the OP?
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LOL THE INTRO SONG IS SAYING THE F WORD AHHAHAHA!!!! KOREANS DONT CENSOR SWEARING LOL
Oh and the Daum Sports thing has like 1800 votes for CJ, and 9000 on woongjin
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howcome the vlc stream doesn't work for me says unable to open the stream... tried both wmp and vlc :/
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CJ Entus owns a chain of grocery stores in Korea.
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On January 21 2009 15:02 Hydrolisko wrote:howcome the vlc stream doesn't work for me says unable to open the stream... tried both wmp and vlc :/
because there is a 200-user limit, so by posting here on TL rather than remaining on IRC the stream got raped.
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On January 21 2009 15:02 Hydrolisko wrote:howcome the vlc stream doesn't work for me says unable to open the stream... tried both wmp and vlc :/
Mine started to do that too so I went back to Daum, I expect it is becuase there is many people watching it. If you keep trying it might start to work.
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On January 21 2009 15:00 LosingID8 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 21 2009 14:58 OmgIRok wrote:
oh dude OP DUDE PUT MY NAME IN THE OP PLEASE I NEED TO BE FAMOUS!! why would your name be in the OP?
it was... :D
uh but yea i went through the trouble of finding that VLC link that aers posted XD
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Beserker is out for blood.
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GO IRIS.
WIN FOR MY FANTASY TEAM PLZ
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GGplay doesn't stand a chance. Iris plays ridiculously well under pressure and there's no Bo5 here
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INTRO PLAYED
Iris VS GGplay STARTING!
DAUM OSL REMATCH
Iris is purple at 3 o'clock
GGPlay is teal at 11 o'clock
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All Iris has to do is defend against aggressive muta harass and he should be alright.
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On January 21 2009 15:05 Qwertify wrote:
No glasses for GGplay.
Must have contacts.
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Iris building a wall at his nat
Rax/gas for Iris
12 hatch FE for GGPlay
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Fact started for Iris
Lair started for GGPlay (2 hatch)
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not quite sure of TvZ.
is 2 hatch lair a good indication that he is expecting mech?
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GGPlay's lings are out, forcing the scouting SCV away
Machine shop going up for Iris
Scout SCV is killed
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Iris taking his nat
Machine Shop is upgrading
Spire started at GGPlays nat
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Vult out for Iris
2nd fact going up as well
GGPlay taking his min only
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Armory going up for Iris
GGPlay's 2nd gas is going up
3 vults out for Iris, speed upgrade is done
YAHHH IRIS'S VULTURES GOING RIGHT FOR THE NAT
GOING AROUND THE SUNKEN BY TAKING A LONG ROUTE AROUND THE MINERALS
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ggplay looks like a sad panda.
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3 vultures win the game for Iris. Iris strong
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YAHHH VULTS IN THE MAIN
MUTAS OUT IN TIME TO TAKE THEM OUT
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wow.... Iris is muta proof.
GFG.
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About 5-6 gols out for Iris, preventing GGPlay from doing serious damage with his mutas
GGPlay working on getting his drone count back up
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yawn.
switching to ruby game
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2 more facs going up for Iris
Hydra den going up at GGPlay's min only
Mutas unable to do anything, because of turrets and gols
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Does Goliath anti air upgrade change the image of the shot they fire?
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On January 21 2009 15:13 Choros wrote:
Does Goliath anti air upgrade change the image of the shot they fire?
yes, if its blue it means its upgraded.
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On January 21 2009 15:05 Qwertify wrote:
No glasses for GGplay.
think he got lasik
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On January 21 2009 13:38 MoRe_mInErAls wrote:This thread needs more sAviOr
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GGPlay still hasn't plugged the hole in his nat yet...
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waiting for the inevitable steamroll
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iris sending vults out to harass GGPlay's nat
GGplay deals with it using his mutas
Iris pushing out with about a dozen gols
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even tho im watching ruby right now, im going to stay on vlc so that 1 less person would enjy lagless stream
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Aers, thanks for this great lagless stream! Daum sports was crap for me tonight.
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Gols moving to the 2 o'clock expo, trying to catch the mutas off guard
YAHHH GGPLAY SEES THE GOLS, AND FLANKS THEM USING HYDRAS AND MUTAS
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GGPlay is fucking terrible.
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Iris now pushing on GGPlay's nat, sieging up to take out the sunks
GGPLAY DOING A LAST DITCH ATTACK ON THE TANK/GOL
GGPLAY LOSES ALL HIS MUTAS AND HYDRAS
IRIS MOVING INTO THE MAIN
GGPLAY GGS
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Wow, looks like GGPlay gets owned by mech yet again.
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IRIS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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GGPlay shoulda gotten guardians like Day[9] said
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On January 21 2009 15:16 erin[go]bragh wrote:
Mech so boring...
I wish pro Zergs would hurry up and figure out how to rape it once more.
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GG GGplay.
W00t Iris 3-0s Stars and gets revenge for Daum. Happy day for Iris :D
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YES IRIS. So happy hes playing good again!
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wooooooooo good for my fantasy PL Team good job iris
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that vult harass probably raped GG play's eco...you know so he CANT make guards or even afford fucking hive tech
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On January 21 2009 15:17 IntoTheWow wrote:
YES IRIS. So happy hes playing good again!
Yeah seriously.
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On January 21 2009 15:17 Choros wrote:I wish pro Zergs would hurry up and figure out how to rape it once more.
well theres this nifty little trick
you put buildings and units next to each other
in front of all your shit
and then when vultures try to run in
they die
instead of killing you
its nifty.
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On January 21 2009 15:17 IntoTheWow wrote:
YES IRIS. So happy hes playing good again!
Especially since he is on my fantasy team buwahahaha!
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CJ looking really good in this new format so far.
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On January 21 2009 15:19 IdrA wrote:Show nested quote +On January 21 2009 15:17 Choros wrote:On January 21 2009 15:16 erin[go]bragh wrote:
Mech so boring... I wish pro Zergs would hurry up and figure out how to rape it once more. well theres this nifty little trick you put buildings and units next to each other in front of all your shit and then when vultures try to run in they die instead of killing you its nifty.
That and a funny thing called SUNKENS at your expos. Stop being so damn conscious of saving every last drone and SAVE A FEW MORE DRONES. Mass expo with sunken should make it so that the vultures just can't do as much as they possibly should (or are intended to do).
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On January 21 2009 15:22 t3r.sAnkAri wrote:
CJ looking really good in this new format so far.
Yeah, they have only dropped 2 games.
I think that puts them close to first, if not first right now.
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oh wow Iris you baller.
sucks for my FPL though
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CJ is sooooo deep that they should do really well in this format (3 viable tosses in Much, Movie and nbs, 4 viable zergs in Savior, Effort, Kwanro and Orion (sorta), and 5 terrans in Iris, Skyhigh, Xellos, Darkelf, and Idra ()). Besides, the mere threat of Savior being in the same room as the opponents makes CJ autowin.
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God CJ need to stop owning that bad so Savior can play ><
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Haha so far in both games, CJ win the first game, lose the second, then win the next 3.
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51449 Posts
wow i really thought iris was in a slump
guess not
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On January 21 2009 15:30 KnightOfNi wrote:CJ is sooooo deep that they should do really well in this format (3 viable tosses in Much, Movie and nbs, 4 viable zergs in Savior, Effort, Kwanro and Orion (sorta), and 5 terrans in Iris, Skyhigh, Xellos, Darkelf, and Idra ( )). Besides, the mere threat of Savior being in the same room as the opponents makes CJ autowin.
DarkElf isn't on the proleague roster, he can't play :p
They have memory back though (who beat pusan this week). AzAng is out of PL roster too.
So that leaves:
T: IriS, sKyHigh, Memory
Z: SaviOr, KwanrO, EffOrt
P: Much, Movie, Snow, NBS (not sure if hes in roster).
Then you have xellos going to ace, orion and other guys to fill. Devil might be in roster, would need to check.
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This is saddening.
At least it was Iris doing the damage, though.
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Hell yes
Iris is on my fantasy team
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On January 21 2009 16:21 Vivi57 wrote:
Hell yes
Iris is on my fantasy team
Same i gambled picking him over savior and he dosnt dissapoint
EDIT: IRIS YOU SEXY BEAST BOOSTED ME FROM LIKE 60SOMETHING TO 12TH PLACE ^_^
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On January 21 2009 17:10 Kuja900 wrote:Same i gambled picking him over savior and he dosnt dissapoint EDIT: IRIS YOU SEXY BEAST BOOSTED ME FROM LIKE 60SOMETHING TO 12TH PLACE ^_^
savior didn`t play at all
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Iris, god, I love Iris.
He stepped in and raped everyone.
Iris takes no bullshit from nobody.
NO BOOLSHIT MON
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On January 21 2009 15:30 KnightOfNi wrote:CJ is sooooo deep that they should do really well in this format (3 viable tosses in Much, Movie and nbs, 4 viable zergs in Savior, Effort, Kwanro and Orion (sorta), and 5 terrans in Iris, Skyhigh, Xellos, Darkelf, and Idra ( )). Besides, the mere threat of Savior being in the same room as the opponents makes CJ autowin.
You are highly overrating some of those players. Like I mean HIGHLY overrating some of those players. As mentioned before Darkelf, Idra, Xellos, Orion, Kwanro and nbs aren't worth mentioning... I don't know why you even bothered bringing them up (Especially nbs who was never a big name nor a solid player. Same with Orion but at least you were hesitant with him.).
And I don't think they have the absolute superstar. Effort is almost there but not quite (he seems like he would drop random games and he did). Skyhigh was impressive in GOM but not really anywhere else.
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the absolute superstar isnt nearly as important in this format when a team has depth. when you have 10 players who could be the third/fourth on a normal proleague lineup and you have them all train specifically for certain matchups/maps it becomes very easy to take out a superstar and then put in a solid player to clean up.
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On January 21 2009 15:48 IntoTheWow wrote:Show nested quote +On January 21 2009 15:30 KnightOfNi wrote:CJ is sooooo deep that they should do really well in this format (3 viable tosses in Much, Movie and nbs, 4 viable zergs in Savior, Effort, Kwanro and Orion (sorta), and 5 terrans in Iris, Skyhigh, Xellos, Darkelf, and Idra ( )). Besides, the mere threat of Savior being in the same room as the opponents makes CJ autowin. DarkElf isn't on the proleague roster, he can't play :p They have memory back though (who beat pusan this week). AzAng is out of PL roster too. So that leaves: T: IriS, sKyHigh, Memory Z: SaviOr, KwanrO, EffOrt P: Much, Movie, Snow, NBS (not sure if hes in roster). Then you have xellos going to ace, orion and other guys to fill. Devil might be in roster, would need to check.
Oh wow, they put Snow on their roster? I hope we get to see him play this season, he's so young that I'm really curious to know how good he is. Maybe they can set him against Baby when they play WeMade. Just think, a proleague match in which the gamers' combined ages are the same as Boxer's.
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On January 21 2009 20:48 Rostam wrote:Show nested quote +On January 21 2009 15:48 IntoTheWow wrote:On January 21 2009 15:30 KnightOfNi wrote:CJ is sooooo deep that they should do really well in this format (3 viable tosses in Much, Movie and nbs, 4 viable zergs in Savior, Effort, Kwanro and Orion (sorta), and 5 terrans in Iris, Skyhigh, Xellos, Darkelf, and Idra ( )). Besides, the mere threat of Savior being in the same room as the opponents makes CJ autowin. DarkElf isn't on the proleague roster, he can't play :p They have memory back though (who beat pusan this week). AzAng is out of PL roster too. So that leaves: T: IriS, sKyHigh, Memory Z: SaviOr, KwanrO, EffOrt P: Much, Movie, Snow, NBS (not sure if hes in roster). Then you have xellos going to ace, orion and other guys to fill. Devil might be in roster, would need to check. Oh wow, they put Snow on their roster? I hope we get to see him play this season, he's so young that I'm really curious to know how good he is. Maybe they can set him against Baby when they play WeMade. Just think, a proleague match in which the gamers' combined ages are the same as Boxer's.
Yeah jjonga (another P) got removed too. CJ could get another Protoss besides Movie since there's rumours floating around about Much leaving for the military.
In case you care, here's the latest CJ roster with the changes at the bottom.
CJ Entus
Iris
XellOs
Memory
sKyHigh
Much
Nbs
Movie
By.Snow
sAviOr
EffOrt
Orion
Kwanro
Changes
In - Memory, By.Snow
Out - AzAng, jjonga
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Just finished watching vods, i gotta say I love Iris.Well worth 2 points:D
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Byun Hyung Tae Fighting!
Iris has always been one of my favorite players.
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Haha nice. Berzerkeerrrrrrrrr strikes back. ^^
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Godddddddd
I had Iris on my team until the last day.
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I wasn't expecting Iris at all.
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I love the captain! CJ is doing well lately
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WOW BERSERKER TERRRRRANNN FTW :D
wow...... 09 is the year for upsets...
:D :D :D
On January 21 2009 04:43 DreaM)XeRO wrote:
EffOrt < ZerOZerO is in my opinion better than Effort. BO win for Zero
Called it niggaahhhs
On January 21 2009 04:45 fusionsdf wrote:
effort's not losing a zvz to zero
not going to happen
FAIL
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IriS vs GGPlay moment
Vults going to GGPlays naturalVults go around the sunkens behind the minerals and kill a drone..And another.And another...
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Why is DarkElf off the roster? what happened to him?
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On January 22 2009 07:04 Ace wrote:
Why is DarkElf off the roster? what happened to him? skyhigh/iris/memory are just better i guess
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i think darkelf would be good in the current format, he was used as a sniper before, and snipers are essential in the format
then again, maybe he sucks with no monty hall lol
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bleh gj cj but no savior
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are thay saving Savior for the last guy o_O
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they should have sent ggplay third THEN free.
=/
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Thoes pictures could practically define that last match between GGPlay and Iris.
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On January 22 2009 16:23 GTR-2-Go wrote:
they should have sent ggplay third THEN free.
=/
yeah really stupid by them. when i was watching it with irc the other night, carnac mentioned something about how rh3 isn't good for ggplay's late game style etc. but still, even if he lost, free on medusa vs iris is like a free win -_-
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