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]343[
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States10328 Posts
November 15 2008 00:47 GMT
#21
On November 15 2008 05:15 kemoryan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2008 01:08 ]343[ wrote:
kal > backho
calm < forgg
soo < jaedong
hwasin < lomo

ace:
calm > jaedong??


they can't go to ace if it is a 3-1 win


oops sorry I failed that should read HWASIN > LOMO (typo)
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Avidkeystamper
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States8556 Posts
November 15 2008 01:20 GMT
#22
I think most Lecaf fans are new to the scene and don't post as much, but I am probably wrong. Just like the people who think STX will win.
Jaedong
IdrA
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States11541 Posts
November 15 2008 01:21 GMT
#23
On November 15 2008 02:08 SpiralArchitect wrote:
Lecaf is monstrous and for good reason, their lineup is so deep they are like the lakers right now. They dont really have a lack of any specific race or type of player, though BackHo is hardly the Protoss that I wish for, he gets the job done. I want Soul to win this so bad but I just dont think its possible unless they get a nice ace match. I can easily see this going 2-2 but when Jaedong is put under pressure (especially when hes already played that day) he performs like a beast. 3-2 for lecaf imo.

they are known as the team that has 0 depth and rides their aces. well done.

uuuuuunless you really want to claim that hiya lomo backho..... dongrae? are high calibre players. but then fbh is only mediocre.
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Avidkeystamper
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States8556 Posts
November 15 2008 01:32 GMT
#24
It's just that their aces are S-class than most, and they have 2 of them, meaning they could theoretically ride wins on only those 2 and the ace match. It's like a better version of KTF. Their aces are more consistent and they have more and better backup players.
Jaedong
IdrA
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States11541 Posts
November 15 2008 01:57 GMT
#25
lomo, maybe.
other than that id take ktfs supporting cast any day. tempest has good games and shows some promise, and lucifer can dt drop anyone on any given day. 815 is a good choice on macro maps. i havent seen sair play much but hes been winning.

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Dazed.
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada3301 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-11-15 02:04:25
November 15 2008 02:01 GMT
#26
On November 15 2008 10:32 Avidkeystamper wrote:
It's just that their aces are S-class than most, and they have 2 of them, meaning they could theoretically ride wins on only those 2 and the ace match. It's like a better version of KTF. Their aces are more consistent and they have more and better backup players.
What back up players? Wtf
On November 15 2008 10:57 IdrA wrote:
lomo, maybe.
other than that id take ktfs supporting cast any day. tempest has good games and shows some promise, and lucifer can dt drop anyone on any given day. 815 is a good choice on macro maps. i havent seen sair play much but hes been winning.

Dont forget haran/firefist, who look like [especially with luxury as their teacher] they could be strong players some day.

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IdrA
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States11541 Posts
November 15 2008 02:15 GMT
#27
meh, haran seemed to prosper with the whole crazy zerg thing, i dont think hes played a single televised game since it went out of style.

firefist maybe, but hes been promising for like 2 years now. granted he didnt really have a zerg mentor at wemade.
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Avidkeystamper
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States8556 Posts
November 15 2008 02:26 GMT
#28
On November 15 2008 10:57 IdrA wrote:
lomo, maybe.
other than that id take ktfs supporting cast any day. tempest has good games and shows some promise, and lucifer can dt drop anyone on any given day. 815 is a good choice on macro maps. i havent seen sair play much but hes been winning.


Lucifer sucks balls, Tempest maybe, he's still shady, I'd say around Hiya's level. Haven't seen much from 815, haven't seen much from Sair.
Jaedong
Fontong
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States6454 Posts
November 15 2008 02:28 GMT
#29
Crazy sexy lineups for both sides. I have to vote against either Kal or forGG, my two faves...Lecaf will probably take this.
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arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17921 Posts
November 15 2008 02:57 GMT
#30
On November 15 2008 04:59 LosingID8 wrote:
sheis > jaedong for ace!

oh wait -_-;


That guys TvZ is amazing
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IdrA
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States11541 Posts
November 15 2008 02:59 GMT
#31
On November 15 2008 11:26 Avidkeystamper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2008 10:57 IdrA wrote:
lomo, maybe.
other than that id take ktfs supporting cast any day. tempest has good games and shows some promise, and lucifer can dt drop anyone on any given day. 815 is a good choice on macro maps. i havent seen sair play much but hes been winning.


Lucifer sucks balls, Tempest maybe, he's still shady, I'd say around Hiya's level. Haven't seen much from 815, haven't seen much from Sair.

doesnt matter how good he is, he plays cheesy protoss. that makes him valuable for sniping. not really sure what to say if you think hiyas as good as tempest. and if you havent seen much from the guy who was their best z before luxury, why you are you trying to talk about them skill wise?
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Avidkeystamper
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States8556 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-11-15 03:21:26
November 15 2008 03:17 GMT
#32
On November 15 2008 11:59 IdrA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2008 11:26 Avidkeystamper wrote:
On November 15 2008 10:57 IdrA wrote:
lomo, maybe.
other than that id take ktfs supporting cast any day. tempest has good games and shows some promise, and lucifer can dt drop anyone on any given day. 815 is a good choice on macro maps. i havent seen sair play much but hes been winning.


Lucifer sucks balls, Tempest maybe, he's still shady, I'd say around Hiya's level. Haven't seen much from 815, haven't seen much from Sair.

doesnt matter how good he is, he plays cheesy protoss. that makes him valuable for sniping. not really sure what to say if you think hiyas as good as tempest. and if you havent seen much from the guy who was their best z before luxury, why you are you trying to talk about them skill wise?

Woah, I swore I underlined "around". If you saw the games Tempest won in the MSL, they weren't straight up, the straight up games he lost to FBH's TvP which still is mediocre, just not autoloss. Yes, I haven't seen them, so I assume they're worse than what they're playing currently. Bad assumption?
Jaedong
ambit!ous1
Profile Joined September 2007
United States3662 Posts
November 15 2008 03:24 GMT
#33
nice match ups!
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Profile Blog Joined February 2006
Canada1842 Posts
November 15 2008 03:34 GMT
#34
I will be relaying this when it starts.
Stream:
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KOFgokuon
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States14899 Posts
November 15 2008 03:50 GMT
#35
so weird that they don't use july ever
SilverSkyLark
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Philippines8437 Posts
November 15 2008 03:51 GMT
#36
hmm, I'd hope for a 3-1 from stx..
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Kuja900
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States3564 Posts
November 15 2008 03:53 GMT
#37
On November 15 2008 09:42 3clipse wrote:
lol, there are like 5x as many Lecaf fans as there are STX fans on this site, where the hell are they?


lol numbers dont matter we loud and proud
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heyitsme
Profile Joined June 2008
153 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-11-15 04:01:26
November 15 2008 04:00 GMT
#38
The beautiful thing with Lecaf is that they always have a chance to win in every game... They never have an autolose matchup (except BackHo vs Z maybe) so by combining this with good Ace players they can beat every other team out there.

Kal < Backho (35/65)

PvP specialist BackHo has an advantage over Kal however he can always drop a game against any1 by screwing something up so a win isn't guaranteed.

Calm > fOrGG (55/45)

Harmony is not so hot for mutas, I predict a special build from Calm so fOrGG will lose. If they play standard ZvT Calm will be slaughtered.

SoO < Jaedong (0/100)

The king of Z will crush this no name guy without a doubt

Hwasin > lomo (60/40)

Hwasin is not so hot right now and the map is Medusa so there's room for crazy stuff in there

Ace Match: Calm or Kal < Jaedong

It's Andromeda so I think that Kal would be the better choice here. Still Jaedong is going to win this.
AnyOne
Profile Joined January 2008
Chile547 Posts
November 15 2008 04:15 GMT
#39
calm all kill
STX SOuL FightinG~ Inter.Calm FigthinG ~
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17921 Posts
November 15 2008 04:43 GMT
#40
On November 15 2008 13:00 heyitsme wrote:
The beautiful thing with Lecaf is that they always have a chance to win in every game... They never have an autolose matchup (except BackHo vs Z maybe) so by combining this with good Ace players they can beat every other team out there.

Kal < Backho (35/65)

PvP specialist BackHo has an advantage over Kal however he can always drop a game against any1 by screwing something up so a win isn't guaranteed.

Calm > fOrGG (55/45)

Harmony is not so hot for mutas, I predict a special build from Calm so fOrGG will lose. If they play standard ZvT Calm will be slaughtered.

SoO < Jaedong (0/100)

The king of Z will crush this no name guy without a doubt


Hwasin > lomo (60/40)

Hwasin is not so hot right now and the map is Medusa so there's room for crazy stuff in there

Ace Match: Calm or Kal < Jaedong

It's Andromeda so I think that Kal would be the better choice here. Still Jaedong is going to win this.


they said this about jaedong and oversky..

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