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M2
Profile Joined December 2002
Bulgaria4167 Posts
April 20 2026 15:15 GMT
#521
On April 21 2026 00:10 Kraekkling wrote:
those 1 hatch zvp builds can't really stopped once they hit and protoss has been playing like its a normal game...

but JD pulled a drone to block the ramp early and lings were also out very fast, so protoss has to respect the possibility of sth like this. maybe try to hide another probe on the map and scout for a 3rd at least or sth?

what bisu did (1 zeal into nex into core before forge into 1 single cannon) is a blind counter to standard play from Z... this only works based on the assumption that Zerg voluntarily took a big economical hit in the beginning to fake aggression

The least he should've done was to start a 2nd cannon simultaneously with the corsair with the intent to cancel if not needed
Knife kitty, night kitty, put you on a slab. Stealthy kitty, hunter kitty, stab stab stab :-)
M2
Profile Joined December 2002
Bulgaria4167 Posts
Last Edited: 2026-04-20 15:22:17
April 20 2026 15:18 GMT
#522
On April 20 2026 22:46 RowdierBob wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 20 2026 22:14 hasuprotoss wrote:
So some lucky group winner gets tulbo, another gets Flash. LUL

They’ll fix the groups pretty hardcore I reckon to give JD and flash the best chance of making final.

If I had the guess:
Top bracket
Snow vs 2nd place tomorrow
Soma vs Flash

Bottom bracket:
JD vs Tulgod
First place tomorrow vs hero

I like the Soma vs Flash idea, but I'd really prefer if Snow is on the other side of the bracket. I might be the only one, but my dream final is Flash vs Snow. Enough with filthy zergs winning every time xD. But if its Flash vs JD I'll definitely won't complain
Knife kitty, night kitty, put you on a slab. Stealthy kitty, hunter kitty, stab stab stab :-)
Dante08
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Singapore4179 Posts
April 20 2026 15:43 GMT
#523
Zerg is the best chance to take down Flash this season. In the current meta bio is pretty weak so Flash would have to come up with builds for 5-7 games which isn’t an issue for him but it’s the best bet you have, like what JD did to Flash today.

Flash doesn’t lose TvT and TvP is so good for Flash on these maps. Snow normally has a hard time vs Flash even on Protoss favoured maps so it’s really hard seeing any Protoss win a BO5 or 7 on these maps.
Kraekkling
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
713 Posts
April 20 2026 15:45 GMT
#524
In the current meta bio is pretty weak
***citation needed
(*^^)(^*)
Dante08
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Singapore4179 Posts
April 20 2026 15:51 GMT
#525
On April 21 2026 00:45 Kraekkling wrote:
Show nested quote +
In the current meta bio is pretty weak
***citation needed


I meant SK terran style play, it has been so rare seeing a Terran beat a Zerg using SK terran once the game goes past 15 minutes.
RJBTVYOUTUBE
Profile Joined December 2023
Netherlands1260 Posts
April 20 2026 15:54 GMT
#526
On April 21 2026 00:51 Dante08 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2026 00:45 Kraekkling wrote:
In the current meta bio is pretty weak
***citation needed


I meant SK terran style play, it has been so rare seeing a Terran beat a Zerg using SK terran once the game goes past 15 minutes.


Its actually still very common.
follow ULT battles or the Chinese spons and you will see it all the time. Largely FlaSh doesnt BIO much anymore because its quite intense on the nerves in his arm.
JDON MY SOUL!
Dante08
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Singapore4179 Posts
April 20 2026 15:54 GMT
#527
On April 20 2026 21:57 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote:
it caught my atention flash WR in ASL for TVP is way higher compared to his TvZ. Kinda insane.


Yeah there was a stat years ago that he hadn’t lost a TvP best of 5 in like 10 years or something. This was just before the season where Afreeca made maps specifically to stop Flash from winning.
FlaShFTW
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States10470 Posts
April 20 2026 17:19 GMT
#528
[image loading]

GET YOUR BISU BUCKETS HERE!!!

Jesus feels like 2009-2010 all over again, FlaSh and Jaedong look so damn good right now. If we get a JD vs FlaSh finals I would die a happy man.
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FlaShFTW
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States10470 Posts
April 20 2026 17:26 GMT
#529
On April 20 2026 22:16 seRapH wrote:
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On April 20 2026 22:15 BLinD-RawR wrote:
shoutout to flashftw for calling this group perfectly.

rigged smh

Somehow this has not translated into very good Liquibets for me over the years TT.TT
Writer#1 KT and FlaSh Fanboy || Woo Jung Ho Never Forget || Teamliquid Political Decision Desk
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Qikz
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United Kingdom12041 Posts
April 20 2026 21:02 GMT
#530
Was happy to see JD beat FlaSh, was sad to see Bisu lose to him. FlaSh is boring to watch - he's still somehow like an unstoppable force and it seems inevitable that he'll win. Anything but BO1 and it seems almost impossible for anyone bar EffOrt to dethrone him even now lol
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Kraekkling
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
713 Posts
April 20 2026 21:17 GMT
#531
just re-watched flash vs jd... crazy how jd knew to attack exactly 10 seconds before siege finished at 10:20

after that attack the game started to tilt in his favour
(*^^)(^*)
Vasoline73
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States8066 Posts
April 20 2026 21:48 GMT
#532
Just watched the group. I feel bad for Ample! He played well. He might have advanced in another group... not this one though.

I hated Flash's build vs JD. Double armory that fast seems ridiculous...

I loved Flash's 14cc in the last game against Bisu. Talk about winning the mind games.

JD looks fierce! He may be the favorite to win this ASL.

Sorry Bisu fans
Duckvillelol
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Australia1259 Posts
April 20 2026 22:54 GMT
#533
I wanna give kudos to @FlashFTW and @BisuDagger for their preview which described almost EXACTLY what happened lmao.
Former SC2 commentator. youtube.com/duckvillelol
QRCode
Profile Joined December 2024
United States62 Posts
April 21 2026 00:16 GMT
#534
Wow what a group. JD and Flash were on another level today. The reads, the tech fakeouts, every game was brilliant.
Dante08
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Singapore4179 Posts
April 21 2026 00:38 GMT
#535
On April 21 2026 06:17 Kraekkling wrote:
just re-watched flash vs jd... crazy how jd knew to attack exactly 10 seconds before siege finished at 10:20

after that attack the game started to tilt in his favour


Yeah that was some crazy game sense, if he attacked 1 min later Flash would have held and it would been 3 base Terran on 2-2
Talaris
Profile Joined March 2011
Switzerland764 Posts
April 21 2026 01:06 GMT
#536
On April 21 2026 02:19 FlaShFTW wrote:
[image loading]

GET YOUR BISU BUCKETS HERE!!!

Jesus feels like 2009-2010 all over again, FlaSh and Jaedong look so damn good right now. If we get a JD vs FlaSh finals I would die a happy man.


I wont mind a FvJ semi-finals either - maybe anticlimactic to have that semi have more viewers than the next TvT or ZbZ Final, but I would not mind them "just battling it out in semis" at all.
-= Jaedong // HerO // HasuObs // Best // Rush =-
felleN
Profile Joined December 2011
Australia95 Posts
Last Edited: 2026-04-21 03:39:21
April 21 2026 03:37 GMT
#537
On April 21 2026 02:19 FlaShFTW wrote:
[image loading]

GET YOUR BISU BUCKETS HERE!!!

Jesus feels like 2009-2010 all over again, FlaSh and Jaedong look so damn good right now. If we get a JD vs FlaSh finals I would die a happy man.



Feels like time travelling back to the golden days . With the current state of both players I think there is a chance.
"I am fucking godly at, like, fucking god. AHHHH" -combatEX
polgas
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada1783 Posts
April 21 2026 03:49 GMT
#538
Flash is scary good even after long hiatus. Glad Jaedong was able to beat him once.
Leee Jaee Doong
Vasoline73
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States8066 Posts
April 21 2026 03:53 GMT
#539
Rewatching Flash v Bisu game 1... why doesn't Bisu have a unit or two in front of Flash's natural to spot the move out timing? Just seems like a mistake to see it so late like he did in game. I'm sure there's a reason...
SCRVN
Profile Joined June 2024
227 Posts
April 21 2026 04:24 GMT
#540
On April 21 2026 12:53 Vasoline73 wrote:
Rewatching Flash v Bisu game 1... why doesn't Bisu have a unit or two in front of Flash's natural to spot the move out timing? Just seems like a mistake to see it so late like he did in game. I'm sure there's a reason...

if you are B rank player you will know why. I am B rank player, I never do that, I just try to do my best and I guess my opponents base on time of game.

Bisu's decision, micro, macro yesterday was real B rank player.
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