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ALLEYCAT BLUES50433 Posts
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BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50433 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-09-23 03:06:12
10 hours ago
#2
threw out my back so I have nothing better to do than watch this with my full attention. hopefully it will ease my pain.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
TL+ Member
warandpeaches
Profile Joined March 2019
15 Posts
10 hours ago
#3
Lowkey think these are the two best players in the world right now...
odi et amo. quare id faciam, fortasse requiris. nescio, sed fieri sentio et excrucior.
Sooke
Profile Joined September 2025
2 Posts
10 hours ago
#4
On September 23 2025 12:12 warandpeaches wrote:
Lowkey think these are the two best players in the world right now...


agreed. cant wait for this ro8 match
Katkishka
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States654 Posts
10 hours ago
#5
Gogo Effort, put in some effort and rain on Snow's parade!
prototype.
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada4211 Posts
9 hours ago
#6
snow got this
( ・´ー・`)
RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13154 Posts
8 hours ago
#7
I think this series will come down to how Snow deals with muta snipes. He’s gonna need to manage his cairs really well or get fancy with some DA builds.

Snow’s greatest strength is also his weakness in PvZ imo. He plays so solid, but standard, that it’s almost like playing with maphack against him.

I think he’s better than effort but I think he needs to mix things up a bit tonight too. Should be a great series!
"Terrans are pretty much space-Australians" - H
Uldridge
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Belgium4875 Posts
7 hours ago
#8
Snow absolutely has the capacity to mix things up. Forge with 1 canon, forge with 2 canons, forge>gate>canon, forge>nexus>gate>canon, ... the list goes on.
Taxes are for Terrans
iFU.pauline
Profile Joined September 2009
France1626 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-09-23 06:27:44
7 hours ago
#9
SnOw is a macro oriented player, stands no chance with this style against effOrt; bruh is going to lose his virginity a second time.
No coward soul is mine, No trembler in the world's storm-troubled sphere, I see Heaven's glories shine, And Faith shines equal arming me from Fear
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania8306 Posts
7 hours ago
#10
I root for Effort but i think snow has this...

LB on Snow
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
Simplistik
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
2057 Posts
6 hours ago
#11
Arguably, Effort hasn't faced any really serious test yet. Kinda hard to judge where he's at. Snow seems to be struggling a little with confidence, but his games have gone well so far.
Dear BW Gods, it IS now autumn, so...
Cocorian
Profile Joined September 2025
2 Posts
5 hours ago
#12
Snow gonna win
Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands5143 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-09-23 09:10:03
5 hours ago
#13
Surely Snow will not get shaken as hard as a player from yesterday, right?
I think Snow can beat more easily Effort in a Bo1 then the other way around, but Effort can outsmart God in Bo5 and Bo7 all day, so who knows where this goes.

I voted Snow.
FBH #1!
pseudosignal
Profile Joined May 2025
40 Posts
4 hours ago
#14
Whoever wins this wins the ASL I feel.
Soulforged
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Latvia919 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-09-23 09:16:02
4 hours ago
#15
Wonder how it went between them back in CJ days. Probably not very well for Snow...
...though from what I see, in matches between players who know each other very well, the race that usually has less information, is more advantageous(simply because of external/meta knowledge)
On another hand, Effort is the mind game god.
Toshinou-Kyouko
Profile Joined November 2024
Philippines304 Posts
3 hours ago
#16
I'm torn man

I want snow to win but effort deserves a second run with the gold
Yuru Yuri best anime
ScoutWBF
Profile Joined April 2005
Germany619 Posts
3 hours ago
#17
Who'd be the easier opponent for Barracks?
Snow?
RogerChillingworth
Profile Joined March 2010
3025 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-09-23 10:00:16
3 hours ago
#18
This epic match to determine who will be cheesed out by Barrack next round.
Motion to retcon this tournie and have someone cooler take mini out in a non-shit manner. Like there's no way Arya kills the night king by jumping out of a tree with a steak knife. Sorry. Mini needs a Tony Stark death and multiple minutes where he's dying and loved ones get to come up to him and cry. He can't just get hit by a bus out of nowhere with some shitbag driving.
Toshinou-Kyouko
Profile Joined November 2024
Philippines304 Posts
3 hours ago
#19
Snow will eat rax alive

better hope for effort if you want rax to move forward i guess
Yuru Yuri best anime
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44704 Posts
3 hours ago
#20
I just hope this series goes to game seven
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66285 Posts
3 hours ago
#21
i got a feeling Effort will win this 4-2
POGGERS
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania8306 Posts
3 hours ago
#22
On September 23 2025 19:05 konadora wrote:
i got a feeling Effort will win this 4-2

I hope so Kona!

tho i went with Snow on LB....
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania8306 Posts
3 hours ago
#23
OK! Let's see a good game !!
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44704 Posts
3 hours ago
#24
Here come some hydras.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
gravity
Profile Joined March 2004
Australia1937 Posts
3 hours ago
#25
not the most effective burrow ambush
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66285 Posts
3 hours ago
#26
Snow's reaver is just different holy shit
POGGERS
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44704 Posts
3 hours ago
#27
That could have been really bad for Snow, but he saved the reaver and the shuttle!
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44704 Posts
3 hours ago
#28
On September 23 2025 19:27 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
That could have been really bad for Snow, but he saved the reaver and the shuttle!


And there it goes haha.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66285 Posts
3 hours ago
#29
this is disgusting play by Effort, pretty much flawless
POGGERS
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44704 Posts
3 hours ago
#30
Effort with some interesting drop play. Distracting Snow and spreading him pretty thin.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44704 Posts
3 hours ago
#31
Snow totally just threw away his observer. No counterattack for now.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
gravity
Profile Joined March 2004
Australia1937 Posts
3 hours ago
#32
Snow's corsairs haven't been very effective this game
gravity
Profile Joined March 2004
Australia1937 Posts
3 hours ago
#33
On the other hand this dragoon contain has proven surprisingly hard to break
gravity
Profile Joined March 2004
Australia1937 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-09-23 10:34:50
3 hours ago
#34
in the end too much econ damage from Effort's drops vs basically no drones killed by Snow

though it's not over yet
RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13154 Posts
3 hours ago
#35
Snow continuously losing his obs is hilarious and grim all at once.
"Terrans are pretty much space-Australians" - H
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44704 Posts
3 hours ago
#36
I don't think Snow did enough damage there.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44704 Posts
3 hours ago
#37
On September 23 2025 19:34 RowdierBob wrote:
Snow continuously losing his obs is hilarious and grim all at once.


Yeah it's been like 3 or more observers now x.x

Especially given how many lurkers are all over the map...
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50433 Posts
3 hours ago
#38
Poll: Recommend EffOrt vs Snow Game 1?

Yes (12)
 
86%

No (1)
 
7%

If you have time (1)
 
7%

14 total votes

Your vote: Recommend EffOrt vs Snow Game 1?

(Vote): Yes
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(Vote): If you have time

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[sc1f]eonzerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Belgium6680 Posts
3 hours ago
#39
Effort seems in good shape today.
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66285 Posts
3 hours ago
#40
Effort played that map perfectly

started off poor but went for fast 4 gas because Snow committed heavily into cannons and was forced to play defensively
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DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44704 Posts
3 hours ago
#41
Mutas to immediately pick off the shuttle/reavers... Snow transitions into the GG.

Excellent game from Effort!
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Lazyer
Profile Joined August 2011
United States359 Posts
3 hours ago
#42
my lb is on effort lets gogogo
gravity
Profile Joined March 2004
Australia1937 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-09-23 10:38:52
3 hours ago
#43
Snow needed to be more on the ball with scouting out those drops instead of reacting to them too late.

Good reaver usage though.
Toshinou-Kyouko
Profile Joined November 2024
Philippines304 Posts
3 hours ago
#44
effort came to play today it seems
Yuru Yuri best anime
RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13154 Posts
3 hours ago
#45
Snow falling apart in pressure games vs Zergs is always very predictable.
"Terrans are pretty much space-Australians" - H
[sc1f]eonzerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Belgium6680 Posts
3 hours ago
#46
On September 23 2025 19:37 konadora wrote:
Effort played that map perfectly

started off poor but went for fast 4 gas because Snow committed heavily into cannons and was forced to play defensively

Snow made 2 stargates opening so he didnt have a choice really.
Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands5143 Posts
3 hours ago
#47
Hydras have insane dps, so every time a scarab struggles to path to its target, which happens a lot vs hydra chunks, the hydras can trade just fine. Just get storm please.
FBH #1!
Rainalcar
Profile Joined April 2010
Croatia375 Posts
3 hours ago
#48
On September 23 2025 19:39 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 23 2025 19:37 konadora wrote:
Effort played that map perfectly

started off poor but went for fast 4 gas because Snow committed heavily into cannons and was forced to play defensively

Snow made 2 stargates opening so he didnt have a choice really.


Yes, and he kind of had to due to unavoidable lack of info (fuck zvp). But he didn't play the best game, he lost 1 sair for free. He needs to play perfectly to win a b07 pvz vs effort.
j.r.r.
RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13154 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-09-23 10:44:38
3 hours ago
#49
I think Snow should’ve played it like an island map. Would’ve been better securing the islands with mass reaver/cairs and securing his bridge and then adding gateway man.

But having only 1 ob getting constantly sniped with those pushes is criminal -_- He prob would’ve won with the big counter push if doesn’t let his ob get sniped.
"Terrans are pretty much space-Australians" - H
Rainalcar
Profile Joined April 2010
Croatia375 Posts
3 hours ago
#50
On September 23 2025 19:41 Rainalcar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 23 2025 19:39 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote:
On September 23 2025 19:37 konadora wrote:
Effort played that map perfectly

started off poor but went for fast 4 gas because Snow committed heavily into cannons and was forced to play defensively

Snow made 2 stargates opening so he didnt have a choice really.


Yes, and he kind of had to due to unavoidable lack of info (fuck zvp). But he didn't play the best game, he lost eg first sair for free. He needs to play perfectly to win a b07 pvz vs effort.

j.r.r.
[sc1f]eonzerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Belgium6680 Posts
3 hours ago
#51
On September 23 2025 19:41 Peeano wrote:
Hydras have insane dps, so every time a scarab struggles to path to its target, which happens a lot vs hydra chunks, the hydras can trade just fine. Just get storm please.

and each time they connect they do devastaging damage..
iopq
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States959 Posts
3 hours ago
#52
I'm of the opinion that map is a corsair reaver map. If you take the islands and block drops it's better than gooning
[sc1f]eonzerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Belgium6680 Posts
3 hours ago
#53
On September 23 2025 19:41 Rainalcar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 23 2025 19:39 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote:
On September 23 2025 19:37 konadora wrote:
Effort played that map perfectly

started off poor but went for fast 4 gas because Snow committed heavily into cannons and was forced to play defensively

Snow made 2 stargates opening so he didnt have a choice really.


Yes, and he kind of had to due to unavoidable lack of info (fuck zvp). But he didn't play the best game, he lost 1 sair for free. He needs to play perfectly to win a b07 pvz vs effort.

I dont totally agree. i think if he just invested a bit more into drop defense he would have been fine. For some reason Effort lurker drop just caught him by surprise. Snow showed that even in a very weak spot the game was very close. So i expect the rest of the maps to go more his way.
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania8306 Posts
3 hours ago
#54
i just hope they don't remove this map on the next season ...
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
[sc1f]eonzerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Belgium6680 Posts
3 hours ago
#55
On September 23 2025 19:45 prosatan wrote:
i just hope they don't remove this map on the next season ...

Bro this is not even a question lol. But hopefully they try something different
Uldridge
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Belgium4875 Posts
3 hours ago
#56
Effort 4-1 is my bet.
Taxes are for Terrans
RogerChillingworth
Profile Joined March 2010
3025 Posts
3 hours ago
#57
these broadcasts have more padding than mrs. doubtfire
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66285 Posts
3 hours ago
#58
11 nexus vs 11overpool?
POGGERS
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania8306 Posts
2 hours ago
#59
This is bad for snow..
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania8306 Posts
2 hours ago
#60
On September 23 2025 19:50 konadora wrote:
11 nexus vs 11overpool?

Pretty much
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
[sc1f]eonzerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Belgium6680 Posts
2 hours ago
#61
1-1
Magic Powers
Profile Joined April 2012
Austria4351 Posts
2 hours ago
#62
On September 23 2025 19:50 prosatan wrote:
This is bad for snow..


What? Couldn't have gone better for him haha
If you want to do the right thing, 80% of your job is done if you don't do the wrong thing.
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania8306 Posts
2 hours ago
#63
Nice hold on the ramp!
Now snow is a bit ahead i think
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13154 Posts
2 hours ago
#64
Butthole clencher there
"Terrans are pretty much space-Australians" - H
iFU.pauline
Profile Joined September 2009
France1626 Posts
2 hours ago
#65
Do you prayers protoss ignorants!
No coward soul is mine, No trembler in the world's storm-troubled sphere, I see Heaven's glories shine, And Faith shines equal arming me from Fear
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44704 Posts
2 hours ago
#66
Barely stopped that ling runby!
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
SkelA
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Macedonia13056 Posts
2 hours ago
#67
Snow has huge advantage. Just need to defend the predictable allin hydra bust now.
Stork and KHAN fan till 2012 ...
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania8306 Posts
2 hours ago
#68
On September 23 2025 19:52 Magic Powers wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 23 2025 19:50 prosatan wrote:
This is bad for snow..


What? Couldn't have gone better for him haha

Indeed... I thought effort would follow up with more lings and end the game quickly
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13154 Posts
2 hours ago
#69
Just gotta cover the possible all in here and he’ll move into the mid game really strong.
"Terrans are pretty much space-Australians" - H
M2
Profile Joined December 2002
Bulgaria4126 Posts
2 hours ago
#70
On September 23 2025 19:52 SkelA wrote:
Snow has huge advantage. Just need to defend the predictable allin hydra bust now.

Calling this a Huge advantage is kind of bold imo, but its an advantage
Knife kitty, night kitty, put you on a slab. Stealthy kitty, hunter kitty, stab stab stab :-)
[sc1f]eonzerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Belgium6680 Posts
2 hours ago
#71
Effort had to mae adjustements to the build order after such a bad start skipping Spire and goign straight to den to defend overlords.
[sc1f]eonzerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Belgium6680 Posts
2 hours ago
#72
On September 23 2025 19:54 M2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 23 2025 19:52 SkelA wrote:
Snow has huge advantage. Just need to defend the predictable allin hydra bust now.

Calling this a Huge advantage is kind of bold imo, but its an advantage

Indeed. More like the game is over.
RogerChillingworth
Profile Joined March 2010
3025 Posts
2 hours ago
#73
take a drink every time:

"ohhHHHH"
"seumnida"

no don't do that
RogerChillingworth
Profile Joined March 2010
3025 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-09-23 11:00:10
2 hours ago
#74
HOLY SHIT i just realized Snow is white protoss. Answered my question from before whether it was banned OR BAD or somth. Ohhhh the regality.

edit: purple zerg has never won a game
iFU.pauline
Profile Joined September 2009
France1626 Posts
2 hours ago
#75
Come on SnOw, do you 2 bases all in shit coze it's all u can do BRO!
No coward soul is mine, No trembler in the world's storm-troubled sphere, I see Heaven's glories shine, And Faith shines equal arming me from Fear
Magic Powers
Profile Joined April 2012
Austria4351 Posts
2 hours ago
#76
What the heck, Effort is completely blind. Not his A game.
If you want to do the right thing, 80% of your job is done if you don't do the wrong thing.
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44704 Posts
2 hours ago
#77
Dark templar
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44704 Posts
2 hours ago
#78
17-kill dark templar and it gets away lmao
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Toshinou-Kyouko
Profile Joined November 2024
Philippines304 Posts
2 hours ago
#79
good old hero DTs
Yuru Yuri best anime
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44704 Posts
2 hours ago
#80
I don't see Effort holding this.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
M2
Profile Joined December 2002
Bulgaria4126 Posts
2 hours ago
#81
On September 23 2025 19:55 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 23 2025 19:54 M2 wrote:
On September 23 2025 19:52 SkelA wrote:
Snow has huge advantage. Just need to defend the predictable allin hydra bust now.

Calling this a Huge advantage is kind of bold imo, but its an advantage

Indeed. More like the game is over.

All right. Good call
Knife kitty, night kitty, put you on a slab. Stealthy kitty, hunter kitty, stab stab stab :-)
Magic Powers
Profile Joined April 2012
Austria4351 Posts
2 hours ago
#82
Nice, we got ourselves a match x)
Lets go Snow!
If you want to do the right thing, 80% of your job is done if you don't do the wrong thing.
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44704 Posts
2 hours ago
#83
200 supply to 100 supply lol.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50433 Posts
2 hours ago
#84
Poll: Recommend EffOrt vs Snow Game 2?

Yes (7)
 
78%

If you have time (2)
 
22%

No (0)
 
0%

9 total votes

Your vote: Recommend EffOrt vs Snow Game 2?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time

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DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44704 Posts
2 hours ago
#85
Good game! 1-1
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania8306 Posts
2 hours ago
#86
Ggsss
1-1
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
[sc1f]eonzerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Belgium6680 Posts
2 hours ago
#87
On September 23 2025 20:03 M2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 23 2025 19:55 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote:
On September 23 2025 19:54 M2 wrote:
On September 23 2025 19:52 SkelA wrote:
Snow has huge advantage. Just need to defend the predictable allin hydra bust now.

Calling this a Huge advantage is kind of bold imo, but its an advantage

Indeed. More like the game is over.

All right. Good call


If you take in consideration that Nexus first vs Overpool is already a lot to overcome imagine using 2 larvas wasted into zerlings that die to canons doing nothing on early game. That said Snow took a shit ton of time to finish the game.
Kespa1988
Profile Joined January 2022
52 Posts
2 hours ago
#88
Hey EffOrt, dont play standard vs Snow. I hope this helps xd
[sc1f]eonzerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Belgium6680 Posts
2 hours ago
#89
Props to Snow for doing nexus first back to back.
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44704 Posts
2 hours ago
#90
Nexus first. The balls.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
[sc1f]eonzerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Belgium6680 Posts
2 hours ago
#91
Effort doing 2 hatch Lair wow.
RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13154 Posts
2 hours ago
#92
This feels lurker all in
"Terrans are pretty much space-Australians" - H
RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13154 Posts
2 hours ago
#93
And I’m wrong.
"Terrans are pretty much space-Australians" - H
[sc1f]eonzerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Belgium6680 Posts
2 hours ago
#94
Soma did this build vs Snow on benzene many seasons ago. The thing is that do you need to do good damage for it to work.
[sc1f]eonzerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Belgium6680 Posts
2 hours ago
#95
Effort is tweakin
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66285 Posts
2 hours ago
#96
that's insane corsair micro
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[sc1f]eonzerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Belgium6680 Posts
2 hours ago
#97
Snow 2-1
RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13154 Posts
2 hours ago
#98
Really nice from snow so far.
"Terrans are pretty much space-Australians" - H
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44704 Posts
2 hours ago
#99
RIP mutas.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66285 Posts
2 hours ago
#100
GG

what clutch corsair micro, that fast spire into corsair snipe didn't work because of snow playing safe and building extra cannons, and that corsair micro damnnn
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DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44704 Posts
2 hours ago
#101
Snow 2-1!
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
[sc1f]eonzerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Belgium6680 Posts
2 hours ago
#102
The moment he decided to attack the natural canon and fighting corsairs over 3 canons in range..
Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands5143 Posts
2 hours ago
#103
Proper GG timing. Respect.
FBH #1!
gravity
Profile Joined March 2004
Australia1937 Posts
2 hours ago
#104
Did Effort even get a single Corsair?
RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13154 Posts
2 hours ago
#105
I’m not sure wtf effort was going for there. I’m guessing he wanted to dive onto a lone cannon and zone with scourge but snow snuffed it out quickly enough?
"Terrans are pretty much space-Australians" - H
Rainalcar
Profile Joined April 2010
Croatia375 Posts
2 hours ago
#106
On September 23 2025 20:16 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote:
The moment he decided to attack the natural canon and fighting corsairs over 3 canons in range..


He tried to kill the cannons to release lings? Otherwise, it was crazy
j.r.r.
Kespa1988
Profile Joined January 2022
52 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-09-23 11:17:12
2 hours ago
#107
Snow seems to be locked in now. EffOrt knows he cant do much in macro game.
Cocorian
Profile Joined September 2025
2 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-09-23 11:17:36
2 hours ago
#108
Use zealot as bait to kill all mutas, such a move
RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13154 Posts
2 hours ago
#109
Effort does not seem at all comfortable playing straight up to Snow today. He’s playing true BTS style to try get that early advantage.
"Terrans are pretty much space-Australians" - H
[sc1f]eonzerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Belgium6680 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-09-23 11:20:13
2 hours ago
#110
On September 23 2025 20:16 Rainalcar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 23 2025 20:16 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote:
The moment he decided to attack the natural canon and fighting corsairs over 3 canons in range..


He tried to kill the cannons to release lings? Otherwise, it was crazy


That was the idea but how realistically it is to do it when there is zealots covering the wall ? there are 3 canons corsairs and zealots. Just a mad plan.

That said Props to snow for doing nexus first on Dominator when is very often a map where zerg does 9p lol.

But the mindgame worked well cuz he did on metropolis so Effort wasnt exactly expecting that. In fact i think effort was trying to hard counter 1 gate expansion with his build.
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66285 Posts
2 hours ago
#111
not sure why Effort is trying to play so early game when his late game macro has been sick lately
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M2
Profile Joined December 2002
Bulgaria4126 Posts
2 hours ago
#112
On September 23 2025 20:18 RowdierBob wrote:
Effort does not seem at all comfortable playing straight up to Snow today. He’s playing true BTS style to try get that early advantage.

And Snow counters it with Nexus 1st xD
Knife kitty, night kitty, put you on a slab. Stealthy kitty, hunter kitty, stab stab stab :-)
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50433 Posts
2 hours ago
#113
Poll: Recommend EffOrt vs Snow Game 3?

Yes (5)
 
63%

If you have time (2)
 
25%

No (1)
 
13%

8 total votes

Your vote: Recommend EffOrt vs Snow Game 3?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time

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[sc1f]eonzerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Belgium6680 Posts
2 hours ago
#114
Btw next map is litmus i dont see Snow losing on this one either. Something very odd has to happen for him to no take the win here.
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66285 Posts
2 hours ago
#115
On September 23 2025 20:22 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote:
Btw next map is litmus i dont see Snow losing on this one either. Something very odd has to happen for him to no take the win here.

yeah this map is great for protoss with easy 3rd gas to get both corsair and reaver/ht at the same time, while not compromising on upgrades

should be a Snow win
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[sc1f]eonzerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Belgium6680 Posts
2 hours ago
#116
Wait. didnt mapmakers fix the backdoor ling jump ? wtf
[sc1f]eonzerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Belgium6680 Posts
2 hours ago
#117
oh shit lurker rush LMAO
Magic Powers
Profile Joined April 2012
Austria4351 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-09-23 11:32:19
2 hours ago
#118
Ok this is very risky from Effort. Snow has a huge macro advantage, and if the hydras fail...
Or the lurkers ig
If you want to do the right thing, 80% of your job is done if you don't do the wrong thing.
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44704 Posts
2 hours ago
#119
Lurker bust!?
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
[sc1f]eonzerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Belgium6680 Posts
2 hours ago
#120
Snow scouted that when 2 lings were in his main. Thats bad
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66285 Posts
2 hours ago
#121
this strat by effort feels like ass...
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DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44704 Posts
2 hours ago
#122
Probe with the hero scout.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66285 Posts
2 hours ago
#123
once its scouted its so easy to defend with just 1 cannon? what's with this build...
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[sc1f]eonzerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Belgium6680 Posts
2 hours ago
#124
I think Snow is totally fine. I dont see any danger to him.
Magic Powers
Profile Joined April 2012
Austria4351 Posts
2 hours ago
#125
This is game over, no way Snow loses
If you want to do the right thing, 80% of your job is done if you don't do the wrong thing.
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44704 Posts
2 hours ago
#126
Weird strategy by Effort. I don't get it.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
[sc1f]eonzerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Belgium6680 Posts
2 hours ago
#127
the funny is i think he could have busted those natural canons with 4 lurks and 12 zerglings.
Magic Powers
Profile Joined April 2012
Austria4351 Posts
2 hours ago
#128
Ok idk why Snow wasted those zealots for just a cannon.
If you want to do the right thing, 80% of your job is done if you don't do the wrong thing.
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66285 Posts
2 hours ago
#129
snow decided to donate one control group of zealots and didnt even defend the forge upgrade...
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Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands5143 Posts
2 hours ago
#130
Beautiful forge kill by Effort
FBH #1!
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44704 Posts
2 hours ago
#131
On September 23 2025 20:34 Magic Powers wrote:
This is game over, no way Snow loses


Ya never know XD
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Magic Powers
Profile Joined April 2012
Austria4351 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-09-23 11:39:04
2 hours ago
#132
Citadel self-block. Ok we got a game of Starcraft.

On September 23 2025 20:38 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 23 2025 20:34 Magic Powers wrote:
This is game over, no way Snow loses


Ya never know XD


My ptsd t.t
If you want to do the right thing, 80% of your job is done if you don't do the wrong thing.
[sc1f]eonzerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Belgium6680 Posts
2 hours ago
#133
I think something interesting for effort here is that The gaz on this map run out pretty fast. Snow right now is using a lot of gaz in tech and almost no units.
RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13154 Posts
2 hours ago
#134
Kinda wild how well snow handled the cheese and yet effort still in a pretty decent spot here.
"Terrans are pretty much space-Australians" - H
[sc1f]eonzerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Belgium6680 Posts
2 hours ago
#135
wtf he just sniped 2 hts for free
ShloobeR
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Korea (South)3812 Posts
2 hours ago
#136
On September 23 2025 20:39 RowdierBob wrote:
Kinda wild how well snow handled the cheese and yet effort still in a pretty decent spot here.


I mean donating that entire control group of zealots was horrific
: o )
Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands5143 Posts
2 hours ago
#137
Those ht snipes... Damn that hurts to watch
FBH #1!
iopq
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States959 Posts
2 hours ago
#138
On September 23 2025 20:31 Magic Powers wrote:
Ok this is very risky from Effort. Snow has a huge macro advantage, and if the hydras fail...
Or the lurkers ig

Effort is ahead after this
RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13154 Posts
2 hours ago
#139
Fark I think effort actually might be ahead here now.
"Terrans are pretty much space-Australians" - H
[sc1f]eonzerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Belgium6680 Posts
2 hours ago
#140
huge drop to the main
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44704 Posts
2 hours ago
#141
Snow wtf are you doing? Letting two high templar get sniped by hydras. Losing observers again. Trying to throw the game.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44704 Posts
2 hours ago
#142
Nice storm and corsairs taking out the mutas.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Magic Powers
Profile Joined April 2012
Austria4351 Posts
2 hours ago
#143
Bruh, Snow...
Not again... please
If you want to do the right thing, 80% of your job is done if you don't do the wrong thing.
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44704 Posts
2 hours ago
#144
Effort with the hydra doom drop. Snow is still just on two bases...
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
[sc1f]eonzerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Belgium6680 Posts
2 hours ago
#145
Im not sure how Effort is going to the defend the counter attack tbh. He is bleeding units everywhere.
SkelA
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Macedonia13056 Posts
2 hours ago
#146
I just don't get it why would you drop while you have contain at the same time.
Stork and KHAN fan till 2012 ...
RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13154 Posts
2 hours ago
#147
Snow just finds new ways to disappoint -_-
"Terrans are pretty much space-Australians" - H
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44704 Posts
2 hours ago
#148
Snow storms all the hydras, but Effort's lurkers kill so many probes. Things just got crazy.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
gravity
Profile Joined March 2004
Australia1937 Posts
2 hours ago
#149
Feels like a sloppy game all-round. Lots needless losses on both sides.
[sc1f]eonzerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Belgium6680 Posts
2 hours ago
#150
Snow 3-1
Toshinou-Kyouko
Profile Joined November 2024
Philippines304 Posts
2 hours ago
#151
and somehow snow survived
Yuru Yuri best anime
Magic Powers
Profile Joined April 2012
Austria4351 Posts
2 hours ago
#152
PHEW
If you want to do the right thing, 80% of your job is done if you don't do the wrong thing.
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44704 Posts
2 hours ago
#153
Can Effort hold here?
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66285 Posts
2 hours ago
#154
Effort just needed to defend once but those goons were at critical mass

i would want to see him advance but heck, seeing a protoss win in the fall would be great
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BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50433 Posts
2 hours ago
#155
Poll: Recommend EffOrt vs Snow Game 4?

Yes (11)
 
92%

If you have time (1)
 
8%

No (0)
 
0%

12 total votes

Your vote: Recommend EffOrt vs Snow Game 4?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time

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RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13154 Posts
2 hours ago
#156
Fark I take it back. Snow gonna pull it out. He really makes it hard on himself though. That game shouldn’t have been that close.
"Terrans are pretty much space-Australians" - H
Kespa1988
Profile Joined January 2022
52 Posts
2 hours ago
#157
You have to give it to EffOrt for staying alive so long in this game.
Magic Powers
Profile Joined April 2012
Austria4351 Posts
2 hours ago
#158
This was of course all planned by Snow. Just his usual near-throwing for content to bait the haters (knock on wood)
If you want to do the right thing, 80% of your job is done if you don't do the wrong thing.
Uldridge
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Belgium4875 Posts
2 hours ago
#159
I meant 4-1 Snow, seems like I misspelled his name...
Taxes are for Terrans
[sc1f]eonzerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Belgium6680 Posts
2 hours ago
#160
On September 23 2025 20:42 SkelA wrote:
I just don't get it why would you drop while you have contain at the same time.

i was thinking the same. But i guess broodwar engine And making it difficult for units to go the main from the natural is something that can be abused.
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44704 Posts
2 hours ago
#161
Snow ekes out the win there, despite trying really hard to throw a previously-won game lol.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Simplistik
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
2057 Posts
2 hours ago
#162
People critised BTS.
People critised Barracks.
People love Effort.

Humans eh?
Dear BW Gods, it IS now autumn, so...
RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13154 Posts
2 hours ago
#163
That first drop from effort really wasn’t needed. If he just plopped down a big lurker contain he had that I reckon.
"Terrans are pretty much space-Australians" - H
Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands5143 Posts
2 hours ago
#164
Nice job by Snow. If he kept being an idle punching bag he would be too far behind to make a difference at a later timing.
FBH #1!
Simplistik
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
2057 Posts
2 hours ago
#165
Effort needs to realise that Soulkey beat Snow not with aggro, but with macro.
Dear BW Gods, it IS now autumn, so...
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66285 Posts
2 hours ago
#166
On September 23 2025 20:44 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 23 2025 20:42 SkelA wrote:
I just don't get it why would you drop while you have contain at the same time.

i was thinking the same. But i guess broodwar engine And making it difficult for units to go the main from the natural is something that can be abused.

if effort wanted to do that drop then he needed to drop with lurkers and choke the point between the main and nat, or needed to snipe the main nexus

he did neither...
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Simplistik
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
2057 Posts
2 hours ago
#167
Actually, I hope Effort tries another scumbag play and falls flat on his face.
Dear BW Gods, it IS now autumn, so...
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44704 Posts
2 hours ago
#168
Effort really needs to turn things around.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands5143 Posts
2 hours ago
#169
Unlike Mini, Snow stays very composed. Kind of makes me wanna see a Larva vs Snow final lol
FBH #1!
[sc1f]eonzerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Belgium6680 Posts
2 hours ago
#170
Effort with the 9pool but Snow scouting already so that means he is going forge first most likely.
TMNT
Profile Joined January 2021
2856 Posts
2 hours ago
#171
On September 23 2025 20:44 Simplistik wrote:
People critised BTS.
People critised Barracks.
People love Effort.

Humans eh?

Did people criticise Barracks?

I guess the difference is Effort and Barracks only mix in the cheese while BTS mixes in the... (kind of) standard play
Kespa1988
Profile Joined January 2022
52 Posts
2 hours ago
#172
Sauron zerg in game 4?
[sc1f]eonzerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Belgium6680 Posts
2 hours ago
#173
Interesting. Far expansion. Man if Effort pull this lol. right now i give him 20% to win this game.
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44704 Posts
2 hours ago
#174
Effort with a sneaky third base.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
iFU.pauline
Profile Joined September 2009
France1626 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-09-23 11:50:36
2 hours ago
#175
far third into hydra push wth.
No coward soul is mine, No trembler in the world's storm-troubled sphere, I see Heaven's glories shine, And Faith shines equal arming me from Fear
[sc1f]eonzerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Belgium6680 Posts
2 hours ago
#176
Wait a freakin minute. this is the roro build from proleague days. Far expansion with fake hydra bust. But this build is almost 15 years old lol.
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44704 Posts
1 hour ago
#177
The sneaky third base gets scouted! Snow should know what Effort is up to.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66285 Posts
1 hour ago
#178
Effort is so damn sloppy with letting Snow scout EVERTHING these past 4 maps
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[sc1f]eonzerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Belgium6680 Posts
1 hour ago
#179
So Snow scouted this but thats ok for effort in this situation.
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66285 Posts
1 hour ago
#180
On September 23 2025 20:48 TMNT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 23 2025 20:44 Simplistik wrote:
People critised BTS.
People critised Barracks.
People love Effort.

Humans eh?

Did people criticise Barracks?

I guess the difference is Effort and Barracks only mix in the cheese while BTS mixes in the... (kind of) standard play

unfortunately saw a bunch of ppl saying he only knows how to play aggro and cheese lol like, its a strategy game people
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RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13154 Posts
1 hour ago
#181
Effort should spam drones here.
"Terrans are pretty much space-Australians" - H
[sc1f]eonzerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Belgium6680 Posts
1 hour ago
#182
That said the 4 hatchery should have been made in the main.. Effort common man lol
LightSpectra
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States1772 Posts
1 hour ago
#183
SnOw is the Mega Man X of Protosses, every time he wins a PvP he siphons their PvT/PvZ powers to become even stronger
2006 Shinhan Bank OSL Season 3 was the greatest tournament of all time
Kespa1988
Profile Joined January 2022
52 Posts
1 hour ago
#184
What happend to EffOrt, seems so solid in first game, totally melted later.
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44704 Posts
1 hour ago
#185
Effort with the sloppy aggression. Snow should still rebuild that cannon though.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
[sc1f]eonzerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Belgium6680 Posts
1 hour ago
#186
So from this point is all camping from the zerg side. Now snow has some decissions to take. Either reaver or fast shuttle dt drop or just go mass expands. and then Dragoon push.
RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13154 Posts
1 hour ago
#187
On September 23 2025 20:53 Kespa1988 wrote:
What happend to EffOrt, seems so solid in first game, totally melted later.

He caught snow off guard with the drop and was able to.. snowball the advantage into a win. Snow’s build was kinda ass too.
"Terrans are pretty much space-Australians" - H
Magic Powers
Profile Joined April 2012
Austria4351 Posts
1 hour ago
#188
4 base Snow??!!!
NOT AGAIN!!!
If you want to do the right thing, 80% of your job is done if you don't do the wrong thing.
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44704 Posts
1 hour ago
#189
Nice lurker egg block from Effort. Snow just throwing away some zealots.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
iFU.pauline
Profile Joined September 2009
France1626 Posts
1 hour ago
#190
far third lurker man, 2009 jaedong build.
No coward soul is mine, No trembler in the world's storm-troubled sphere, I see Heaven's glories shine, And Faith shines equal arming me from Fear
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66285 Posts
1 hour ago
#191
finally things stabilising for effort

sub-10min 4 base and hive ongoing
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[sc1f]eonzerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Belgium6680 Posts
1 hour ago
#192
Looks like Snow decided to go for the mass expand into Dragoon push. If he kill the hatcheries at the zerg wall that will be great to slowdown zerg.
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66285 Posts
1 hour ago
#193
snow also with the fast 4th
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RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13154 Posts
1 hour ago
#194
I wish snow would make a cannon or 2 in his main. Effort is being kinda cheesy today.
"Terrans are pretty much space-Australians" - H
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44704 Posts
1 hour ago
#195
On September 23 2025 20:55 Magic Powers wrote:
4 base Snow??!!!
NOT AGAIN!!!


I like that decision, if Effort is just going to turtle for a little while.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66285 Posts
1 hour ago
#196
snow with the FIFTH BASE
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Magic Powers
Profile Joined April 2012
Austria4351 Posts
1 hour ago
#197
On September 23 2025 20:56 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 23 2025 20:55 Magic Powers wrote:
4 base Snow??!!!
NOT AGAIN!!!


I like that decision, if Effort is just going to turtle for a little while.


You mistyped "doesn't scout the fourth" xD
If you want to do the right thing, 80% of your job is done if you don't do the wrong thing.
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44704 Posts
1 hour ago
#198
On September 23 2025 20:56 RowdierBob wrote:
I wish snow would make a cannon or 2 in his main. Effort is being kinda cheesy today.


Agreed. The occasional lurkers behind the mineral lines, the hydra drops, the frequent loss of observers...
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44704 Posts
1 hour ago
#199
A 5th base for Snow lmao
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Magic Powers
Profile Joined April 2012
Austria4351 Posts
1 hour ago
#200
Bruh. PvZ solved. 5 base wins every time.
If you want to do the right thing, 80% of your job is done if you don't do the wrong thing.
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44704 Posts
1 hour ago
#201
Protoss out-expanding Zerg was not on my bingo card.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
[sc1f]eonzerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Belgium6680 Posts
1 hour ago
#202
double defiler mound so plague gotta be ready soon
Magic Powers
Profile Joined April 2012
Austria4351 Posts
1 hour ago
#203
Effort hasn't scouted or attempted to scout anything for like five centuries.
If you want to do the right thing, 80% of your job is done if you don't do the wrong thing.
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66285 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-09-23 12:00:31
1 hour ago
#204
effort needs to quickly scout the 11 oclock base and double expand now...
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iFU.pauline
Profile Joined September 2009
France1626 Posts
1 hour ago
#205
doom drop is the only way to break this now.
No coward soul is mine, No trembler in the world's storm-troubled sphere, I see Heaven's glories shine, And Faith shines equal arming me from Fear
RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13154 Posts
1 hour ago
#206
Snow gotta watch for drops
"Terrans are pretty much space-Australians" - H
SkelA
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Macedonia13056 Posts
1 hour ago
#207
Snow is just the better player. He's doing everything right in most situations. Effort just plays on autopilot doing dumb moves.
Stork and KHAN fan till 2012 ...
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66285 Posts
1 hour ago
#208
snow going for his 6th base as a toss while effort is still on 4 lol
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DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44704 Posts
1 hour ago
#209
On September 23 2025 21:00 konadora wrote:
snow going for his 6th base as a toss while effort is still on 4 lol


Yeah this is insane lol.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
LightSpectra
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States1772 Posts
1 hour ago
#210
Effort is playing like Boxer and SnOw is playing like iloveoov
2006 Shinhan Bank OSL Season 3 was the greatest tournament of all time
Magic Powers
Profile Joined April 2012
Austria4351 Posts
1 hour ago
#211
And yet I'm still not convinced that Snow is actually ahead at all.
If you want to do the right thing, 80% of your job is done if you don't do the wrong thing.
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66285 Posts
1 hour ago
#212
THAT DT SNIPED THE DEFILER LOL
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DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44704 Posts
1 hour ago
#213
Cracklings online.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
iFU.pauline
Profile Joined September 2009
France1626 Posts
1 hour ago
#214
this game is going to be world war 3, perfect!
No coward soul is mine, No trembler in the world's storm-troubled sphere, I see Heaven's glories shine, And Faith shines equal arming me from Fear
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66285 Posts
1 hour ago
#215
effort really needs 2 more gas to keep up with Snow's economy
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RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13154 Posts
1 hour ago
#216
Observer missed the DT snipe the defiler -_-
"Terrans are pretty much space-Australians" - H
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44704 Posts
1 hour ago
#217
On September 23 2025 21:01 LightSpectra wrote:
Effort is playing like Boxer and SnOw is playing like iloveoov


Not so sure about the former, but I agree with the latter ^^
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66285 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-09-23 12:03:58
1 hour ago
#218
unlimited storm with that delicious 5 gas
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DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44704 Posts
1 hour ago
#219
Lots of plague, but Snow still made some good progress.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
[sc1f]eonzerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Belgium6680 Posts
1 hour ago
#220
effort need to double expand again if he wanna keep up with Snow eco.
RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13154 Posts
1 hour ago
#221
Effort’s control worse than Mini
"Terrans are pretty much space-Australians" - H
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44704 Posts
1 hour ago
#222
Effort with the worst counterattack of the series. Snow is in control.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66285 Posts
1 hour ago
#223
i guess 7th nexus is where Effort draws the line? lol
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Magic Powers
Profile Joined April 2012
Austria4351 Posts
1 hour ago
#224
Ok ig the addition of reavers makes a huge difference. That could work
If you want to do the right thing, 80% of your job is done if you don't do the wrong thing.
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66285 Posts
1 hour ago
#225
effort needs like 3 more hatcheries and 2 more gas to win the macro

snow is outproducing effort when it comes to unit production wtf
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DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44704 Posts
1 hour ago
#226
Snow doing a great job shutting down counter-harass.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66285 Posts
1 hour ago
#227
effort is so hungry for gas rn

his main and nat should have dried up by now
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DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44704 Posts
1 hour ago
#228
Effort has very little gas. This game/series should be over soon.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
[sc1f]eonzerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Belgium6680 Posts
1 hour ago
#229
wtf snow is attacking without obersevers
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66285 Posts
1 hour ago
#230
On September 23 2025 21:07 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote:
wtf snow is attacking without obersevers

doesnt need it with this level of farm lol
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[sc1f]eonzerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Belgium6680 Posts
1 hour ago
#231
He is still in a leading position. and he has bank to make any units really. Effort need to urgently mass expand.
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44704 Posts
1 hour ago
#232
On September 23 2025 21:07 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote:
wtf snow is attacking without obersevers


Yeah it's frustrating.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13154 Posts
1 hour ago
#233
Snows bank is insane. He can afford to sack these expos if he trades with effort.
"Terrans are pretty much space-Australians" - H
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66285 Posts
1 hour ago
#234
if effort defends his 12 and 3 then he still may have a chance
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DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44704 Posts
1 hour ago
#235
200 supply to 140 supply.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66285 Posts
1 hour ago
#236
4k minerals 3k gas in the bank for snow and maxed out LOL

he can lose his entire army and still rebuild it all
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Magic Powers
Profile Joined April 2012
Austria4351 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-09-23 12:10:52
1 hour ago
#237
Alright now it looks clearly winning for Snow. Effort doesn't have much left
If you want to do the right thing, 80% of your job is done if you don't do the wrong thing.
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44704 Posts
1 hour ago
#238
Effort is absolutely broke.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66285 Posts
1 hour ago
#239
effort is so damn sloppy today jesus

hydras just facetanking all the storms, losing defilers for nothing

snow is on the legendary 3/3/3 upgrade LOL
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RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13154 Posts
1 hour ago
#240
Whoever is observing is having a shocker today
"Terrans are pretty much space-Australians" - H
[sc1f]eonzerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Belgium6680 Posts
1 hour ago
#241
That should do it for Snow. 4-1
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44704 Posts
1 hour ago
#242
GG from Effort incoming. Final push.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Toshinou-Kyouko
Profile Joined November 2024
Philippines304 Posts
1 hour ago
#243
effort tried
Yuru Yuri best anime
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44704 Posts
1 hour ago
#244
Congrats to Snow!
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66285 Posts
1 hour ago
#245
effectively 1 base effort vs 3 base snow lmao
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Magic Powers
Profile Joined April 2012
Austria4351 Posts
1 hour ago
#246
GGs
If you want to do the right thing, 80% of your job is done if you don't do the wrong thing.
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands21816 Posts
1 hour ago
#247
Snow just casually sitting on 4k minerals and 3k gas.

this game should be over
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66285 Posts
1 hour ago
#248
GG

effort played terrible today, wtf happened

snow played really well too, but effort was NOT himself today
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Souden
Profile Joined May 2023
50 Posts
1 hour ago
#249
Barracks is smiling on his stream. He knows the reaper is coming lol.
Toshinou-Kyouko
Profile Joined November 2024
Philippines304 Posts
1 hour ago
#250
Barracks beware, the terran slayer is coming
Yuru Yuri best anime
gravity
Profile Joined March 2004
Australia1937 Posts
1 hour ago
#251
Big macro game to finish off. Nice to see Reavers used effectively in PvZ though as usual storm did the lion's share of the work.
[sc1f]eonzerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Belgium6680 Posts
1 hour ago
#252
So We are getting Snow in the final for sure. Most likely Snow vs Soma final. Should be good.
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50433 Posts
1 hour ago
#253
Poll: Recommend EffOrt vs Snow Game 5?

Yes (13)
 
87%

If you have time (2)
 
13%

No (0)
 
0%

15 total votes

Your vote: Recommend EffOrt vs Snow Game 5?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time

Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
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M3t4PhYzX
Profile Joined March 2019
Poland4209 Posts
1 hour ago
#254
GGs WP!

Good stuff.
odi profanum vulgus et arceo
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66285 Posts
1 hour ago
#255
On September 23 2025 21:13 Souden wrote:
Barracks is smiling on his stream. He knows the reaper is coming lol.

yeah barracks is absolutely not surviving vs snow lol

won't be surprised if its a 4-0
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RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13154 Posts
1 hour ago
#256
Domination from Snow in that last game.
"Terrans are pretty much space-Australians" - H
fLyiNgDroNe
Profile Joined September 2005
Belgium4018 Posts
1 hour ago
#257
*SnOw evil laugh*
Drone is a way of living
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50433 Posts
1 hour ago
#258
Poll: Recommend EffOrt vs Snow Game 6?

If you have time (4)
 
44%

Yes (3)
 
33%

No (2)
 
22%

9 total votes

Your vote: Recommend EffOrt vs Snow Game 6?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time


Poll: Recommend EffOrt vs Snow Game 7?

Yes (7)
 
64%

If you have time (3)
 
27%

No (1)
 
9%

11 total votes

Your vote: Recommend EffOrt vs Snow Game 7?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time

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konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66285 Posts
1 hour ago
#259
the entire series effort with the lack of scouting, trying to be too fancy with cheesy tactics that didn't give much returns, and just poor micro too
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RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13154 Posts
1 hour ago
#260
Good racial balance in semis so far. Seems we’ll get at least one of Soma or Larva too.
"Terrans are pretty much space-Australians" - H
iFU.pauline
Profile Joined September 2009
France1626 Posts
1 hour ago
#261
EffOrt was off timing pretty much at each turn. Disappointing performance. I expect him to grind really hard in the coming months, there is no way he will be satisfied with that.
No coward soul is mine, No trembler in the world's storm-troubled sphere, I see Heaven's glories shine, And Faith shines equal arming me from Fear
RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13154 Posts
1 hour ago
#262
I like that Snow’s reaction to efforts build was to mass expand instead of going for a 2 or 3 base bust.
"Terrans are pretty much space-Australians" - H
Rainalcar
Profile Joined April 2010
Croatia375 Posts
1 hour ago
#263
On September 23 2025 21:17 RowdierBob wrote:
I like that Snow’s reaction to efforts build was to mass expand instead of going for a 2 or 3 base bust.


Exactly. And he would have lost if he didn't go 5vs4 bases. Shows the immense power of late game zerg.
j.r.r.
Uldridge
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Belgium4875 Posts
1 hour ago
#264
Called it, too bad I misspelled Snow, lol.

Too bad Effort couldn't push it a little harder. Epic composure by Snow. Seems like a winner to me!
Taxes are for Terrans
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66285 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-09-23 12:33:40
1 hour ago
#265
Q: Congrats on your 4th consecutive Ro4 appearance. How do you feel?
Snow: Eeffort is a strong opponent, and although I tried to put up a tough image, inside i was a bit afraid, so I'm glad I won.

A: I had to win the 1st game but I lost, so I knew I had to pay extra attention to the 2nd game. I knew he would use Zerglings, so I was a bit more proactive with my zealots.

A: Usually when I panic, I fail to defend when I should, and end up losing games I should. So I just recomposed myself.

Q: On the game on Litmus, Effort tried to do a backdoor strat. How did you feel about it?
A: I knew I just had to defend it and I would be in a good position, but as I was playing the game, I realised I was terrible with my building placements, and that made the game tougher for me. Effort is a strong opponent and he punished me well.

A: Usually I always get reverse-swept or lose when I'm ahead. I hardly win a map 7 in a Bo7, if you notice. So this time, I really tried to focus and play to my very best.

A: Except when I'm playing against Action, I usually lose most of my Zerg games. So I'm glad i can put another w in my record.

Q: Barracks advanced to rRo4 first. Your thoughts?
A: He plays really well, actually. In fact, in our practice, he wins more of our games. So he'll be a formidable foe.

Q: Any words?
A: I received a lot of help today, so I prepared in advance. Thanks to Soma, Queen, (i missed someone here), Hero, Soulkey, Larva, and everyone else. It's been about 5 years since I last advanced to the finals, so I definitely want to head to the finals. Also, to my wife.. Thank you.
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Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands5143 Posts
1 hour ago
#266
Very nice PvZ series. Beautiful by Snow. Effort needed just a bit more to reach the breaking point. Reminds me of Bisu vs Effort in the KeSPA-era.
FBH #1!
Rainalcar
Profile Joined April 2010
Croatia375 Posts
1 hour ago
#267
On September 23 2025 21:21 konadora wrote:
q: congrats on ur 4th consecutive Ro4 appearance. how do you feel?
snow: effort is a strong opponent, and although i tried to put up a tough image, inside i was a bit afraid, so im glad i won

a: i had to win the 1st game but i lost, so i knew i had to pay extra attention to the 2nd game. i knew he would use zerglings, so i was a bit more proactive with my zealots.

a: usually when i panic, i fail to defend when i should, and end up losing games i should. so i just recomposed myself.

q: on the game on litmus, effort tried to do a backdoor strat. how did u feel about it?
a: i knew i just had to defend it and i would be in a good position, but as i was playing the game, i realised i was terrible with my building placements, and that made the game tougher for me. effort is a strong opponent and he punished me well.

a: usually i always get reverse-swept or lose when im ahead. i hardly win a map 7 in a bo7, if you notice. so this time, i really tried to focus and play to my very best.

a: except when i'm playing against Action, i usually lose most of my zerg games. so i'm glad i can put another W in my record.

q: Barracks advanced to Ro4 first. your thoughts?
a: he plays really well, actually. in fact, in our practice, he wins more of our games. so he'll be a formidable foe.

q: any words to your fans?
a: i received a lot of help today, so i prepared in advance. thanks to Soma, Queen, (i missed someone here), Hero, SK, Larva, and everyone else. it's been about 5 years since i advanced to the finals, so i definitely want to head to the finals.

also, to my wife.. thank you.


Thank you!!

LOL, Action :D
j.r.r.
TMNT
Profile Joined January 2021
2856 Posts
1 hour ago
#268
q: Barracks advanced to Ro4 first. your thoughts?
a: he plays really well, actually. in fact, in our practice, he wins more of our games. so he'll be a formidable foe.

Ah, I see what Snow did here. Tricking Barracks into thinking he can beat him, while playing at 50% power in practice and saving his builds for the semifinal.
LightSpectra
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States1772 Posts
1 hour ago
#269
The Action shade 😭
2006 Shinhan Bank OSL Season 3 was the greatest tournament of all time
TMNT
Profile Joined January 2021
2856 Posts
1 hour ago
#270
On September 23 2025 21:13 konadora wrote:
GG

effort played terrible today, wtf happened

snow played really well too, but effort was NOT himself today

Tbf he lost 0 - 4 to Mini in his last ASL outing. It's hard to gauge his level vs the major proleague players because he keeps parking in k league. Obviously he's major proleague worthy but maybe at the lower end of it (like JD most of the times). Snow has always been top end and Mini was when they played.

In a Bo7 Effort has better chance but if they play 100 games for sure Snow will take 60-65 games for example.
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66285 Posts
1 hour ago
#271
On September 23 2025 21:35 TMNT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 23 2025 21:13 konadora wrote:
GG

effort played terrible today, wtf happened

snow played really well too, but effort was NOT himself today

Tbf he lost 0 - 4 to Mini in his last ASL outing. It's hard to gauge his level vs the major proleague players because he keeps parking in k league. Obviously he's major proleague worthy but maybe at the lower end of it (like JD most of the times). Snow has always been top end and Mini was when they played.

In a Bo7 Effort has better chance but if they play 100 games for sure Snow will take 60-65 games for example.

damn, i haven't watched him as much in k league or pro league, but his performance in race battle was absolutely top tier. his play and form today was honestly quite shocking
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Lazyer
Profile Joined August 2011
United States359 Posts
1 hour ago
#272
bruh I leave for din and come back and effort never picked up another game??? wtf happened
Magic Powers
Profile Joined April 2012
Austria4351 Posts
1 hour ago
#273
On September 23 2025 21:38 Lazyer wrote:
bruh I leave for din and come back and effort never picked up another game??? wtf happened


Snow proving his haters wrong happened xd

I don't think he'll win the tournament, seems quite unlikely. But he's doing well.
If you want to do the right thing, 80% of your job is done if you don't do the wrong thing.
Rainalcar
Profile Joined April 2010
Croatia375 Posts
52 minutes ago
#274
On September 23 2025 21:44 Magic Powers wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 23 2025 21:38 Lazyer wrote:
bruh I leave for din and come back and effort never picked up another game??? wtf happened


Snow proving his haters wrong happened xd

I don't think he'll win the tournament, seems quite unlikely. But he's doing well.


He's favourite in the semis. "Quite unlikely" doesn't really apply. If it will be pvp, he has at least 50% chance, even against Bisu whose godly almost-Rain-like pvp dropped a lot. vs Larva and Soma he is not a favourite, but with a few build order advantages...
j.r.r.
TMNT
Profile Joined January 2021
2856 Posts
45 minutes ago
#275
On September 23 2025 21:58 Rainalcar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 23 2025 21:44 Magic Powers wrote:
On September 23 2025 21:38 Lazyer wrote:
bruh I leave for din and come back and effort never picked up another game??? wtf happened


Snow proving his haters wrong happened xd

I don't think he'll win the tournament, seems quite unlikely. But he's doing well.


He's favourite in the semis. "Quite unlikely" doesn't really apply. If it will be pvp, he has at least 50% chance, even against Bisu whose godly almost-Rain-like pvp dropped a lot. vs Larva and Soma he is not a favourite, but with a few build order advantages...

Looks like Snow used up all the 12 Nexus luck for Protoss today (at the expense of Mini lol).

There may be a correlation between 12 Nexus and Protoss winning a BoX actually. Even in Rain's 4-2 victory against Soma a couple of years ago, he got away with 12 Nexus once.
RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13154 Posts
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#276
This is Soma’s tourney to lose from here imo. The bracket is breaking very kindly for him.
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RogueTheGOAT
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#277
I know the pros hate it because it is different, but from what I've seen in daily pro leagues and now in the round of 8 is that Roaring Currents is a good map that should stick around for at least another season. Normally non-standard maps quickly demonstrate themselves to be extremely imbalanced (generally in Zerg's favor), but for Roaring Currents there are arguments for each race. e.g. It SHOULD be a good map for Carriers against Zerg, but Zerg also gets 4 bases with gases for basically free.
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