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BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50143 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-03-19 09:08:54
March 19 2024 07:39 GMT
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M3t4PhYzX
Profile Joined March 2019
Poland4197 Posts
March 19 2024 08:26 GMT
#2
Mini, hopefully..

FIGHTING!
odi profanum vulgus et arceo
bovienchien
Profile Joined March 2014
Vietnam1152 Posts
March 19 2024 08:44 GMT
#3
2 Terran players will be eliminated today
https://www.facebook.com/StarcraftRemasteredVN/
HOLYBATS
Profile Joined August 2021
Turkey731 Posts
March 19 2024 08:47 GMT
#4
Go Mini!
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania8090 Posts
March 19 2024 09:07 GMT
#5
Hero and BarrackS are twins
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
Glioburd
Profile Joined April 2008
France1911 Posts
March 19 2024 09:19 GMT
#6
On March 19 2024 18:07 prosatan wrote:
Hero and BarrackS are twins

wat
"You should hate loosing, but you should never fear defeat." NaDa.
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania8090 Posts
March 19 2024 09:34 GMT
#7
On March 19 2024 18:19 Glioburd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2024 18:07 prosatan wrote:
Hero and BarrackS are twins

wat

I swear they looked identical. But now, hero's picture is fixed
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands4998 Posts
March 19 2024 09:44 GMT
#8
Mini n herO plz
FBH #1!
PVJ
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Hungary5221 Posts
March 19 2024 09:51 GMT
#9
I'm excited, hope to see Mini go out!! 4-3 2nd place is fine too. After watching through kcm 2024 s1, where terran was abysmal, it seems to me the map pool is not favoured for Terran. Yet the asl17 ro24 was the opposite. This is why I'm confused and cautious even on Mini v Barracks. He should win any Bo3's afterwards.
My guess on how it goes: hero beats Royal, then Mini, Royal beats Barracks and goes against Mini, Mini wins.
The heart's eternal vow
Terrorbladder
Profile Joined May 2014
2718 Posts
March 19 2024 10:40 GMT
#10
FUCK PROTOSS!
My dream is to fertilize two females at a time.
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands21707 Posts
March 19 2024 10:40 GMT
#11
Crazies game in recent history?
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
HOLYBATS
Profile Joined August 2021
Turkey731 Posts
March 19 2024 10:41 GMT
#12
Damn what a game.
True_Spike
Profile Joined July 2004
Poland3424 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-03-19 10:41:37
March 19 2024 10:41 GMT
#13
Absolutely ridiculous game. I only wish Mini had found that exp quicker.
Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28674 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-03-19 10:42:38
March 19 2024 10:41 GMT
#14
Lol that is an absolutely fantastic game. Kinda sad he couldn't get a draw out of it. :D

That said it would've been the worst throw ever, too. Simply relocating to Mini's natural where he had turrets would've made it a trivial matter.
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Zariel
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Australia1285 Posts
March 19 2024 10:41 GMT
#15
That was an ugly crazy game. Cant believe i witnessed a period of 5 mins with zero mining and game was still awkwardly tight
sup
ggsimida
Profile Joined August 2015
1148 Posts
March 19 2024 10:42 GMT
#16
lol if terran have half a brain the game wouldn't have needlessly drag on for another 10 min
nt by mini tho
SwordM13X24
Profile Joined July 2010
United States190 Posts
March 19 2024 10:42 GMT
#17
ABSOLUTELY YES! DO WATCH THIS GAME!
PVJ
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Hungary5221 Posts
March 19 2024 10:42 GMT
#18
Seriously, 2/60 HP Scv where did it hide??? This was the match apocalypse was named for.
The heart's eternal vow
Terrorbladder
Profile Joined May 2014
2718 Posts
March 19 2024 10:43 GMT
#19
On March 19 2024 19:42 ggsimida wrote:
lol if terran have half a brain the game wouldn't have needlessly drag on for another 10 min
nt by mini tho
I think if he built more turrets in his main he would have won handily, but can't really blame him for that, he was doing a 5fact push which meant either turrets for the push or turrets in the main.
My dream is to fertilize two females at a time.
Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands4998 Posts
March 19 2024 10:43 GMT
#20
Make a poll plz. Seemed like great game
FBH #1!
foxmeep
Profile Joined July 2009
Australia2333 Posts
March 19 2024 10:43 GMT
#21
That's the craziest game I have ever seen lol
Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
March 19 2024 10:46 GMT
#22
I haven't watched a BW game live in years. Did NOT regret my decision to sit down and enjoy this. :D Such a scrappy, silly game. And a happy ending as well; if the DTs had won the day I would've been furious. XD
I believe in the almighty Grötslev! -- I am never serious and you should never believe a thing I say. Including the previous sentence.
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50143 Posts
March 19 2024 10:50 GMT
#23
Poll: Recommend Mini vs BarrackS

Yes (81)
 
100%

No (0)
 
0%

If you have time (0)
 
0%

81 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Mini vs BarrackS

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time

Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
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BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50143 Posts
March 19 2024 10:52 GMT
#24
On March 19 2024 19:46 Holgerius wrote:
I haven't watched a BW game live in years. Did NOT regret my decision to sit down and enjoy this. :D Such a scrappy, silly game. And a happy ending as well; if the DTs had won the day I would've been furious. XD


BW is an inherently funny game that pros desperately try to make look like the coolest thing ever.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
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Terrorbladder
Profile Joined May 2014
2718 Posts
March 19 2024 10:52 GMT
#25
Can't Royal just lift off the barracks and retreat to his base after spotting early pool? There's no way to win if he pushes, Hero just sends lings to the main, and now his tech is delayed to the point 1 base Muta can end the game.
My dream is to fertilize two females at a time.
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania8090 Posts
March 19 2024 10:52 GMT
#26
We have some crazy games today
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
Terrorbladder
Profile Joined May 2014
2718 Posts
March 19 2024 10:54 GMT
#27
The only thing that prevented Royal from instantly losing was killing the overlord to supply block Hero.
My dream is to fertilize two females at a time.
TMNT
Profile Joined January 2021
2748 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-03-19 10:58:07
March 19 2024 10:56 GMT
#28
I think the opposite. The Protoss player showed in that game he had both big brain and crazy skills. It's like he was able to use a knife to fight against guns and (invisible) grenades and he almost won. Terran was only ahead by luck and has more tools in his locker especially with the ultimate survival tool (the floating building) yet he almost made the biggest throw of all time. Just float your CC to the other nat mate. It's clearly why one is 4 times ASL finalist and one never made the Ro8. Mini winning that game would be a better story.
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50143 Posts
March 19 2024 11:03 GMT
#29
Poll: Recommend RoyaL vs hero?

Yes (9)
 
47%

If you have time (6)
 
32%

No (4)
 
21%

19 total votes

Your vote: Recommend RoyaL vs hero?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time

Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
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foxmeep
Profile Joined July 2009
Australia2333 Posts
March 19 2024 11:03 GMT
#30
I'm glad Mini threw on purpose so we don't have TvT until maybe the decider at which point I can just go to sleep
Soft_General_5023
Profile Joined December 2023
74 Posts
March 19 2024 11:05 GMT
#31
wonder if mini gg-ed too soon, i guess he only had 1 dt left and couldnt both attack and defend
Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28674 Posts
March 19 2024 11:09 GMT
#32
On March 19 2024 20:05 Soft_General_5023 wrote:
wonder if mini gg-ed too soon, i guess he only had 1 dt left and couldnt both attack and defend


Naw at that point there was a cc protected by turrets, the turret was protected and Barracks had gotten up to 6-7 scvs. Worst case for Barracks he distance mines with 3 scvs to mini's second natural and 3 at the natural and mini can't stop both, then gets another turret to fully cover the mineral line and then there's absolutely nothing to be done.
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HOLYBATS
Profile Joined August 2021
Turkey731 Posts
March 19 2024 11:09 GMT
#33
On March 19 2024 20:05 Soft_General_5023 wrote:
wonder if mini gg-ed too soon, i guess he only had 1 dt left and couldnt both attack and defend

He might.He had 100+ minerals and a probe too.He can build hidden pylon and attack with dt.
Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands4998 Posts
March 19 2024 11:16 GMT
#34
Poll: Recommend Winners' Game 1?

If you have time (6)
 
46%

No (6)
 
46%

Yes (1)
 
8%

13 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Winners' Game 1?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time

FBH #1!
foxmeep
Profile Joined July 2009
Australia2333 Posts
March 19 2024 11:17 GMT
#35
Why on earth did he lift rax lol
TMNT
Profile Joined January 2021
2748 Posts
March 19 2024 11:26 GMT
#36
lmao did Hero just speedrun this group
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50143 Posts
March 19 2024 11:26 GMT
#37
one way or another Ro8 brackets will look race balanced lol
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
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Terrorbladder
Profile Joined May 2014
2718 Posts
March 19 2024 11:27 GMT
#38
On March 19 2024 20:09 Liquid`Drone wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2024 20:05 Soft_General_5023 wrote:
wonder if mini gg-ed too soon, i guess he only had 1 dt left and couldnt both attack and defend


Naw at that point there was a cc protected by turrets, the turret was protected and Barracks had gotten up to 6-7 scvs. Worst case for Barracks he distance mines with 3 scvs to mini's second natural and 3 at the natural and mini can't stop both, then gets another turret to fully cover the mineral line and then there's absolutely nothing to be done.
My eyes must have played tricks on me because I saw no turret protecting the secret expo. Also Mini must have known there's almost no fighting units left for Barracks. He must have thought Barracks had banked a large amount of minerals so it was time to gg.
My dream is to fertilize two females at a time.
Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands4998 Posts
March 19 2024 11:28 GMT
#39
Poll: Recommend Winners' Game 2?

No (6)
 
67%

If you have time (2)
 
22%

Yes (1)
 
11%

9 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Winners' Game 2?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time


Poll: Recommend Winners' Game 3?

No (6)
 
100%

Yes (0)
 
0%

If you have time (0)
 
0%

6 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Winners' Game 3?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time

FBH #1!
Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands4998 Posts
March 19 2024 11:28 GMT
#40
I knew hero would advance. But can Mini? I hope so.
FBH #1!
foxmeep
Profile Joined July 2009
Australia2333 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-03-19 11:35:23
March 19 2024 11:29 GMT
#41
On March 19 2024 20:27 Terrorbladder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2024 20:09 Liquid`Drone wrote:
On March 19 2024 20:05 Soft_General_5023 wrote:
wonder if mini gg-ed too soon, i guess he only had 1 dt left and couldnt both attack and defend


Naw at that point there was a cc protected by turrets, the turret was protected and Barracks had gotten up to 6-7 scvs. Worst case for Barracks he distance mines with 3 scvs to mini's second natural and 3 at the natural and mini can't stop both, then gets another turret to fully cover the mineral line and then there's absolutely nothing to be done.
My eyes must have played tricks on me because I saw no turret protecting the secret expo. Also Mini must have known there's almost no fighting units left for Barracks. He must have thought Barracks had banked a large amount of minerals so it was time to gg.


He'd floated a CC up to Mini's nat, where there was a turret and two tanks
foxmeep
Profile Joined July 2009
Australia2333 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-03-19 11:32:51
March 19 2024 11:31 GMT
#42
On March 19 2024 20:26 TMNT wrote:
lmao did Hero just speedrun this group


Just like SK yesterday! I'm actually a bit disappointed we didn't get to see a single decent Z game, but at least there's Ro8
HOLYBATS
Profile Joined August 2021
Turkey731 Posts
March 19 2024 11:42 GMT
#43
Classic Mini game!
Terrorbladder
Profile Joined May 2014
2718 Posts
March 19 2024 11:42 GMT
#44
Protoss players are absolute scums of the earth, it's hard to feel sorry for them when they lose in ZvP.
My dream is to fertilize two females at a time.
Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands4998 Posts
March 19 2024 11:43 GMT
#45
Poll: Recommend Losers' Game 1?

Yes (9)
 
64%

If you have time (5)
 
36%

No (0)
 
0%

14 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Losers' Game 1?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time

FBH #1!
Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands4998 Posts
March 19 2024 11:43 GMT
#46
Mini showed Bisu how it's done.
FBH #1!
TornadoSteve
Profile Joined March 2018
1053 Posts
March 19 2024 11:43 GMT
#47
Sorry is so ugly that his haircut is kinda deserved
bovienchien
Profile Joined March 2014
Vietnam1152 Posts
March 19 2024 11:45 GMT
#48
The latest you've seen Mini said no to cheese?
https://www.facebook.com/StarcraftRemasteredVN/
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50143 Posts
March 19 2024 11:50 GMT
#49
some good ass reaver control
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
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BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50143 Posts
March 19 2024 11:55 GMT
#50
man thats some insane terrorism from mini
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
TL+ Member
Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands4998 Posts
March 19 2024 11:55 GMT
#51
Poll: Recommend Losers' Game 2?

Yes (14)
 
93%

No (1)
 
7%

If you have time (0)
 
0%

15 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Losers' Game 2?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time


Poll: Recommend Losers' Game 3?

Yes (9)
 
90%

If you have time (1)
 
10%

No (0)
 
0%

10 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Losers' Game 3?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time

FBH #1!
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50143 Posts
March 19 2024 11:56 GMT
#52
flawless execution, perfect gameplay, easily his finest moment.

Royal got slapped
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
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foxmeep
Profile Joined July 2009
Australia2333 Posts
March 19 2024 11:56 GMT
#53
Mini's shuttle control is so sick. Royal should've waited for siege though, threw his army away
HOLYBATS
Profile Joined August 2021
Turkey731 Posts
March 19 2024 11:56 GMT
#54
Pure domination.
Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands4998 Posts
March 19 2024 11:56 GMT
#55
That rvr/shuttle control was Snow level.
FBH #1!
Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
March 19 2024 11:57 GMT
#56
Any vague idea I might've had of ever starting to play BW again went out of the window after watching Minis TvP. :D Never again will I voluntarily deal with that amount of stress inducing Protoss shenanigans. XD
I believe in the almighty Grötslev! -- I am never serious and you should never believe a thing I say. Including the previous sentence.
PVJ
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Hungary5221 Posts
March 19 2024 11:58 GMT
#57
Sorry > Royal
The heart's eternal vow
HOLYBATS
Profile Joined August 2021
Turkey731 Posts
March 19 2024 12:01 GMT
#58
Mini vs Royal : 9-1 in ASL.
TMNT
Profile Joined January 2021
2748 Posts
March 19 2024 12:01 GMT
#59
Royal still hasn't won a single map in Ro16 since his championship. Maybe he's actually the bigger fluke compared to JYJ.
bovienchien
Profile Joined March 2014
Vietnam1152 Posts
March 19 2024 12:12 GMT
#60
how Barrack can come in Ro16? what a terrible player
https://www.facebook.com/StarcraftRemasteredVN/
PVJ
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Hungary5221 Posts
March 19 2024 12:12 GMT
#61
Mini can be the unstoppable force but also the unbreakable wall!!!!!
The heart's eternal vow
Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands4998 Posts
March 19 2024 12:13 GMT
#62
Poll: Recommend Final Game 1?

Yes (11)
 
85%

If you have time (2)
 
15%

No (0)
 
0%

13 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Final Game 1?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time

FBH #1!
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50143 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-03-19 12:18:40
March 19 2024 12:18 GMT
#63
On March 19 2024 21:12 bovienchien wrote:
how Barrack can come in Ro16? what a terrible player

maybe his Ro24 opponents should stop losing.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
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TMNT
Profile Joined January 2021
2748 Posts
March 19 2024 12:21 GMT
#64
Mini showing insane mechanics today. Levels above Barracks.
Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28674 Posts
March 19 2024 12:25 GMT
#65
I'm surprised this is even close to being competitive after that start.
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Smorrie
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Netherlands2922 Posts
March 19 2024 12:28 GMT
#66
On March 19 2024 21:25 Liquid`Drone wrote:
I'm surprised this is even close to being competitive after that start.


Hi Eri! Say hi to Ania for me sometime too! Hope life's treating you guys well!
It has a strong technique, but it lacks oo.
Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands4998 Posts
March 19 2024 12:29 GMT
#67
Poll: Recommend Final Game 2?

Yes (12)
 
86%

If you have time (2)
 
14%

No (0)
 
0%

14 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Final Game 2?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time


Poll: Recommend Final Game 3?

Yes (5)
 
42%

No (4)
 
33%

If you have time (3)
 
25%

12 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Final Game 3?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time

FBH #1!
bovienchien
Profile Joined March 2014
Vietnam1152 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-03-19 12:30:44
March 19 2024 12:29 GMT
#68
at least, this match is over fastly
https://www.facebook.com/StarcraftRemasteredVN/
Sonic_md
Profile Joined March 2020
Moldova275 Posts
March 19 2024 12:30 GMT
#69
And you were afraid there were too many earthlings in Ro16 :-). There were eight, now there are four.
Subscribe to my YT channel: https://www.youtube.com/@Sonic_md...."SC:BW it is just game, but i love this game!" (c)Sonic_md.
TMNT
Profile Joined January 2021
2748 Posts
March 19 2024 12:30 GMT
#70
Killing Comsat and mass DTs should now be considered the "Mini build" lol?
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50143 Posts
March 19 2024 12:30 GMT
#71
every ASL, mid ass terrans swell up into the Ro16 and get culled by actually good protoss and zergs.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
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bovienchien
Profile Joined March 2014
Vietnam1152 Posts
March 19 2024 12:33 GMT
#72
I am wondering, we will have 3 zergs in ro4, huh?
https://www.facebook.com/StarcraftRemasteredVN/
TMNT
Profile Joined January 2021
2748 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-03-19 12:39:45
March 19 2024 12:39 GMT
#73
Mini lost that insane first game and probably was so pissed off that he decided to turn on his berserk mode. He did that many times in major proleagues before. The kind of 'in your face' play that screams "you know what I'm about to do but I'm just gonna kill you because my hands work faster".

That said, he already won this season for me because of that insane first game. Truly knife vs gun stuff.
RJBTVYOUTUBE
Profile Joined December 2023
Netherlands905 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-03-19 12:46:43
March 19 2024 12:44 GMT
#74
On March 19 2024 21:01 TMNT wrote:
Royal still hasn't won a single map in Ro16 since his championship. Maybe he's actually the bigger fluke compared to JYJ.

Nah. Meta shifted a tad and everyone is kind of the same level at the top except for Mini, Soulkey, Light and Snow. All Terrans beside Light have been struggling since ASL 15. Might sound a bit weird but I think Sharp might actually be > Rush JyJ Royal Barracks at the moment.
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HOLYBATS
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Turkey731 Posts
March 19 2024 12:56 GMT
#75
Except first game all others are pretty one sided.Congrats herO & Mini LB safe.
RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13013 Posts
March 19 2024 13:06 GMT
#76
Quality of games is def a mot higher than ro24. Has been much more enjoyable to watch.

Mini is a wild ride for better or worse. Always gets the blood pressure a workout watching him play.
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Moldova275 Posts
March 19 2024 13:17 GMT
#77
Yesterday's games were tough.
Today's games were fun.
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FlaShFTW
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States10170 Posts
March 19 2024 15:19 GMT
#78
All the Terrans are going down.
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Profile Joined June 2009
Canada1556 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-03-19 16:46:39
March 19 2024 16:45 GMT
#79
Mini must have the least likeable playstyle currently. At least first game was cool with that hero DT, I think he thought he had all the SCVs gone and was very sad when he scouted that there was a cc with a bunch left at the end there.
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19246 Posts
March 19 2024 17:44 GMT
#80
That first game with Mini was so awesome to watch. I'm really glad he made it through. A mini-bisu finals would be most amazing.
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Smorrie
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Netherlands2922 Posts
March 19 2024 20:04 GMT
#81
SK, Hero & Mini are in great shape it seems. Would've liked to see Hero vs Mini today but happy to see Hero took first spot so we're at least avoiding SK vs Hero & Mini vs Bisu in RO8.
It has a strong technique, but it lacks oo.
RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13013 Posts
March 19 2024 23:12 GMT
#82
Not super shocking all the terrans are out so far. Even Royal not making it is not an upset given the quality of Mini and Hero.

I'd expect one (if not both) of Rush and Light will make it. But that might be it for the terrans. Wouldn't be shocked if Sharp and Mind don't make it either. Action and Snow are prob the two best terran killers of their respective races.
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RJBTVYOUTUBE
Profile Joined December 2023
Netherlands905 Posts
March 19 2024 23:18 GMT
#83
On March 20 2024 08:12 RowdierBob wrote:
Not super shocking all the terrans are out so far. Even Royal not making it is not an upset given the quality of Mini and Hero.

I'd expect one (if not both) of Rush and Light will make it. But that might be it for the terrans. Wouldn't be shocked if Sharp and Mind don't make it either. Action and Snow are prob the two best terran killers of their respective races.


Yeah Rush and Light have the best odds. But I am going to make a ballsy prediction and say only one of them two will make it through. Anything can Happen in D but SnOw seems certain. Would not be surprised if Sharp makes it through. he's legitimately playing rock solid right now.
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[sc1f]eonzerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Belgium6599 Posts
March 19 2024 23:28 GMT
#84
On March 20 2024 08:18 RJBTVYOUTUBE wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2024 08:12 RowdierBob wrote:
Not super shocking all the terrans are out so far. Even Royal not making it is not an upset given the quality of Mini and Hero.

I'd expect one (if not both) of Rush and Light will make it. But that might be it for the terrans. Wouldn't be shocked if Sharp and Mind don't make it either. Action and Snow are prob the two best terran killers of their respective races.


Yeah Rush and Light have the best odds. But I am going to make a ballsy prediction and say only one of them two will make it through. Anything can Happen in D but SnOw seems certain. Would not be surprised if Sharp makes it through. he's legitimately playing rock solid right now.

Knowing Sharp weak nerves and how he always crashing to close winning positions i dont think he will go far. I will never forget how he made Shuttle an ASL champion LOL .
TMNT
Profile Joined January 2021
2748 Posts
March 20 2024 00:08 GMT
#85
I too feel like Sharp is a bit under the radar at the moment. Probably because he's been camping in K League for so long so hasn't made many headlines. But every time I saw him it felt like this guys at least on par if not better than Rush and Royal.

To verify, a quick check on his win rates in all games since last November shows: 60% vs Bisu, 69% vs Hero, 54% vs Rush, 53% vs Mini, 67% vs Mind, 80% vs JYJ, 45% vs Action, 71% vs Royal and 31% vs Snow. Pretty sick, although unfortunate for him that he's in the same group with Snow and Action.
RJBTVYOUTUBE
Profile Joined December 2023
Netherlands905 Posts
March 20 2024 02:33 GMT
#86
On March 20 2024 09:08 TMNT wrote:
I too feel like Sharp is a bit under the radar at the moment. Probably because he's been camping in K League for so long so hasn't made many headlines. But every time I saw him it felt like this guys at least on par if not better than Rush and Royal.

To verify, a quick check on his win rates in all games since last November shows: 60% vs Bisu, 69% vs Hero, 54% vs Rush, 53% vs Mini, 67% vs Mind, 80% vs JYJ, 45% vs Action, 71% vs Royal and 31% vs Snow. Pretty sick, although unfortunate for him that he's in the same group with Snow and Action.


Sharp has really leveled up and is very consistent.
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Sabu113
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States11048 Posts
March 20 2024 02:52 GMT
#87
Sharp is a fanatastically entertaining Terran. Hope he does well (as long as Snow proceeds!)

Man what a day by Mini. Looked scary. Honestly wouldn't want to mess with Mini or Snow this tournament. Hope they get some good terrans to torment each round.
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outscar
Profile Joined September 2014
2832 Posts
March 20 2024 04:34 GMT
#88
Funniest group ever? If Mini managed to win that first game I was like I'm fan of him for next fifty years lol, that was pure insanity! Not surprised RoyaL didn't make it out, his games on previous round weren't satysfying at all. BarrackS needs more coaching from Light, his decision making and timings are off - his both rushes failed utterly and did more damage to him than to his opponent.
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Lazyer
Profile Joined August 2011
United States344 Posts
March 20 2024 07:16 GMT
#89
You know I'm happy for BarrackS, I remember him scrubbing out in a few Ro24 w/ some stupid BBS, now he's not cheesing every game. Hope he continues to show up in the coming seasons. He's also kinda cute ngl.

Mini rly keeping us on our toes LOL. I think everyone knew Hero was gonna make it out, but sometimes Mini can tilt himself off the face of the earth. Utterly destroyed in the second half of the group, that's the aggressive domination I love to see out of Mini.
HOLYBATS
Profile Joined August 2021
Turkey731 Posts
March 20 2024 10:47 GMT
#90
This shuttle micro is damn good. Especially Snow and Mini doing it seamless.
Ideas
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States8108 Posts
March 20 2024 15:19 GMT
#91
This group is a great case of why mini is my fav player lol
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Nirli
Profile Joined February 2023
Bulgaria371 Posts
March 20 2024 16:03 GMT
#92
How did the most stacked ro16 become the least quality ro16 so far, lol.
ThunderJunk
Profile Joined December 2015
United States679 Posts
March 20 2024 16:35 GMT
#93
Looks like I overestimated Royal's and Barracks' TvP. Like, c'mon, you're against Mini. Stop trying to attack him in the early game. The guy never makes more than 40 probes. He LOVES early game skirmishes. To beat Mini TvP, you turtle hard, and let him take the whole map because he doesn't actually know how to do that.

Fun games though. I shouldn't complain too much... I actually want P and Z to advance over t this season

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Destroyer
Profile Joined October 2002
Czech Republic932 Posts
March 20 2024 16:36 GMT
#94
On March 20 2024 09:08 TMNT wrote:
I too feel like Sharp is a bit under the radar at the moment. Probably because he's been camping in K League for so long so hasn't made many headlines. But every time I saw him it felt like this guys at least on par if not better than Rush and Royal.

To verify, a quick check on his win rates in all games since last November shows: 60% vs Bisu, 69% vs Hero, 54% vs Rush, 53% vs Mini, 67% vs Mind, 80% vs JYJ, 45% vs Action, 71% vs Royal and 31% vs Snow. Pretty sick, although unfortunate for him that he's in the same group with Snow and Action.


Out of curiosity, since im unable to watch daily proleagues much recently. Why was RoyaL trying to beat Hero with that somehow risky middle map rack strategy (unlike usual placement on natural), I found him in recent year to be quite all round consistent terran vs zerg relying on mostly standard games. He was being recently beated by Hero (who is to be honest in great shape from what I seen recently) a lot, so he decided to go risky and agressive in bo1 scenario?
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Ideas
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States8108 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-03-21 00:51:28
March 20 2024 17:20 GMT
#95
Hopefully someone like jinjin or TMNT can translate from an interview or stream but I'm wondering if the placement of that 6rax would have allowed royal to catch and kill an overlord before lings could get made to kill a 12hatch (if hero scouted in the other direction/spawned in other location)? basically guaranteeing a full-kill against 12-hatch? I feel like that's the only time I've seen something like that work but only on 2 player maps where overlord scouting paths are much more predictable.

edit: waaay back in 2010 flash did a 5rax vs jaedong in OSL final to catch scouting overlord vs a 12hatch:



he also did it vs jaedong on heartbreak ridge:

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TMNT
Profile Joined January 2021
2748 Posts
March 20 2024 19:32 GMT
#96
On March 21 2024 01:36 Destroyer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2024 09:08 TMNT wrote:
I too feel like Sharp is a bit under the radar at the moment. Probably because he's been camping in K League for so long so hasn't made many headlines. But every time I saw him it felt like this guys at least on par if not better than Rush and Royal.

To verify, a quick check on his win rates in all games since last November shows: 60% vs Bisu, 69% vs Hero, 54% vs Rush, 53% vs Mini, 67% vs Mind, 80% vs JYJ, 45% vs Action, 71% vs Royal and 31% vs Snow. Pretty sick, although unfortunate for him that he's in the same group with Snow and Action.


Out of curiosity, since im unable to watch daily proleagues much recently. Why was RoyaL trying to beat Hero with that somehow risky middle map rack strategy (unlike usual placement on natural), I found him in recent year to be quite all round consistent terran vs zerg relying on mostly standard games. He was being recently beated by Hero (who is to be honest in great shape from what I seen recently) a lot, so he decided to go risky and agressive in bo1 scenario?

Can't be sure but Royal is 3-7 against Hero in their last 10 games so that might play a part.
whylessness
Profile Joined November 2010
United States376 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-03-21 12:29:02
March 21 2024 12:26 GMT
#97
On March 19 2024 21:39 TMNT wrote:
Mini lost that insane first game and probably was so pissed off that he decided to turn on his berserk mode. He did that many times in major proleagues before. The kind of 'in your face' play that screams "you know what I'm about to do but I'm just gonna kill you because my hands work faster".

That said, he already won this season for me because of that insane first game. Truly knife vs gun stuff.


based mini

also as far as least likeable, that can't be mini. unless you don't find micro one-of-a-kind acrobatics, unique builds and daring, dare i say, perverted? maneuvers, attacks and harass unlikable???

clearly, herO is the least likeable player. he is starting to show a new side imo, but he is basically hydra bust in zvp: the player. his zvt never seemed to match up well against top top top tier terran like active flash, light, last etc. and his zvz is good but meh.

also mind made me a fan in that ro16 group selection ceremony. bro was not even paying attention half the time and his attitude was so zen, haha.

interesting ro16 so far...
Turbovolver
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Australia2394 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-03-22 00:11:58
March 22 2024 00:08 GMT
#98
On March 19 2024 21:01 TMNT wrote:
Royal still hasn't won a single map in Ro16 since his championship. Maybe he's actually the bigger fluke compared to JYJ.

I'd say he definitely is. I actually love Royal, but mostly because he looked so funny with his cheeky grin as he pulled out disgusting cheese after disgusting cheese to win a whole goddamn ASL. That's probably not fair to his whole run but I distinctly remember him absolutely destroying a good Zerg (I think Soulkey or Hero from memory...) with crazy new strats. Straight-up I think JYJ is definitely stronger.
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Just_a_Moth
Profile Joined March 2012
Canada1953 Posts
March 22 2024 03:07 GMT
#99
On March 21 2024 00:19 Ideas wrote:
This group is a great case of why mini is my fav player lol

Same.

iRkSupperman
Profile Joined October 2022
Norway133 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-03-22 07:22:29
March 22 2024 07:22 GMT
#100
Mini has had Royal on farm and mental edge in ASL ever since those seasons with Revolver, 12 Nexus Carrier, and flying around killing CCs to win.

One of the best modern tournament players.
Proko
Profile Joined February 2011
United States1022 Posts
March 22 2024 21:55 GMT
#101
We already have 2 championship caliber protoss in the ro8 and a chance for 2 more. kind of insane. Hasn't felt like this for awhile.

Mini is playing well, reminding me of his level when he won the championship. Bisu has looked good. Snow looked like he was on another level in ro24. Don't ever underestimate best.
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SoCal8910 Posts
March 22 2024 22:23 GMT
#102
its been over 20 years and you still see shit you've never seen before. unbelievable.
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Profile Joined December 2023
Netherlands905 Posts
March 24 2024 11:24 GMT
#103
On March 23 2024 06:55 Proko wrote:
We already have 2 championship caliber protoss in the ro8 and a chance for 2 more. kind of insane. Hasn't felt like this for awhile.

Mini is playing well, reminding me of his level when he won the championship. Bisu has looked good. Snow looked like he was on another level in ro24. Don't ever underestimate best.

Snow online form is currently back at absolute peak. Realllllly hope he can perform to his level this week.
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ChApFoU
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
France2982 Posts
March 24 2024 20:24 GMT
#104
Kinda sad to see Barracks collapsing after such a sick 1st game I felt he shoud have had the balls to play a standard game against Mini in the last game. Better go down with style than with failed cheese.
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Profile Joined July 2011
Australia3116 Posts
March 26 2024 06:08 GMT
#105
Shuttle Reaver is insane.
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