TL;DR I am starting a regular NA Pro League series that mirrors the Korean style 4v4 team battles. There are three tiers of events:
Major Pro League - Premier event streamed biweekly to Artosis's channel on Sundays at 5pm PST with prize pool for winning team
Minor Pro League - Friendly events played roughly ~weekly on Fridays at 5pm PST (tentative) with no prize pool. Usually streamed to JY, Gypsy channel
K-League - Friendly events for lower-tier players roughly ~weekly on Saturdays at 5pm PST (tentative) with no prize pool
Schedule Major Pro League: Biweekly - Sunday, 5pm PST @ Artosis Major Pro League: Weekly - Friday, 5pm PST @ Jaeyun Players: Artosis, Gypsy, BoA, Kyrie, StRyKeR, cRoSs, Hawk, Jaeyun, Cavapoo, DragOn, SuGo, Doodle, Razz, Kaido Prize Pool / Patreon: Patreon (please support!)
Context The purpose of the NA Pro League is to have fun and foster competition on a weekly basis. Three tiers of events are designed to incentivize players to players to participate and climb towards the Majors. The overall series will continue for as long as we have funding.
We are using Braacket to track the internal ELO ranking. The ladders will be separated by Pro League and K-League.
Player Selection Criteria Initial placement into Pro League vs. K-League will be an imperfect and impartial process based on others' perception of your skill, although your current MMR should be clear signal. The top consistent performers will be eligible to participate in Pro Leagues over time.
Major Pro Leagues will prioritize slots by highest ELO (assuming you have at least 1 event played)
Minor Pro Leagues will prioritize by lowest ELO or new participants to give players a chance to build history and climb their ELO
K-Leagues will be a more informal process run by Zen
If you are in NA and would like to participate, please message Jaeyun if you are consistently 2200+ and Art_of_turtle if you are consistently 1900+. The system will not be strict. Strong and well-known players may be in2vited into any event with majority consensus from the existing group. Alternatively, if you are BM or difficult to deal with, you will be removed.
Event Format The team battle will be 4v4 (or 3v3 if lack of players). Team selection will be captain's pick (by top 2 ELO) for Majors. Each teams will battle in a BO3 format with 3 distinct events:
1. Pro League Format - Map order is pre-selected and released. Player matchups are randomized. Ace match is played if there is a tie. Each match is BO1 2. Winner's League Format - First map is randomized and released. Both teams independently select their first player. Winning player stays and losing team selects next player and map. Continue until last man standing. Each match is BO1. Losers are knocked out 3. Super Ace (if necessary) - Map is randomized and released. Player with most wins (in the current event) advances to represent each team (else, randomize) in a final BO1.
Maps: Dark Origin, Retro, Polypoid, Invader, Apocalypse, La Campanella, Tempest
Prize Pool / Patreon Only the Major Pro League will have a prize-pool pay-out. We will raise funds via donation and will continue playing for as long as we have funding. Each Major event will compute a prize pool equal to the total fund divided by three, so as to have enough "runway" to fund at least two more events in the future. However, the minimum payout is $100.
If we cannot raise funds, we will close down the event so please consider donating for support! Shout out to SuGo who graciously donated $200 to kick things off, and MyFleetingDream ($300) / Schamtoo ($250) / Doodle ($50)!
Or we can do a NA vs EU Proleague once in a while. Ofc time zone and having 8 players available at the same time is difficult but maybe. Good movement nonetheless.
On September 15 2023 20:20 GTR wrote: any background on cavapoo? the only name out of the list i don't recognize.
He played on Nom but decided to start his own team called NAKR. (North America KR). They are participating in BWCL div D with names like Jimin, Kyrie, Remap and Crossie
On September 15 2023 19:02 TMNT wrote: Or we can do a NA vs EU Proleague once in a while. Ofc time zone and having 8 players available at the same time is difficult but maybe. Good movement nonetheless.
Yeah, overall, it's really hard to get 8 players committed together for the full 2-3 hours. In the past, ZZZero did continent battles that was something like 10v10 which was really fun. There's an active BSL going on so he's probably too busy for that now, but definitely would be down for something like that again. Those can be pre-played and replay-casted, which makes things a lot easier.
caught a little of the back end and it seems it's not really a winner's league format like the Koreans do where you need to kill all of the other team members in order to win the set?
kind of a weird format where the only result that matters is who wins the 4th game?
not sure if that's due to time constraints and they don't want to play potential 7 games per set
EDIT: nvm I thought the super ace was the last match of winner's league mbmb
still I think the Koreans only do the most wins/most losses in the super ace in the K-league, as far as I know they only do random picks in major proleague
On September 18 2023 23:46 redknights wrote: still I think the Koreans only do the most wins/most losses in the super ace in the K-league, as far as I know they only do random picks in major proleague
This time we did super ace = most wins, which was Boa and Stryker. Next time, we will "roll" the conditions as (most wins, most losses, random), then proceed, so there's more suspense for final match.
You could also do losers league format sometimes. I kinda like that one the most because it requires the "weakest" player to dig himself out of a hole, or the other team can just win by beating a dead horse. Offrace proleague is fun as well too but not sure it's worth it given the biweekly nature.
On September 18 2023 23:46 redknights wrote: still I think the Koreans only do the most wins/most losses in the super ace in the K-league, as far as I know they only do random picks in major proleague
This time we did super ace = most wins, which was Boa and Stryker. Next time, we will "roll" the conditions as (most wins, most losses, random), then proceed, so there's more suspense for final match.
I don't know how evenly matched the NA participating players are, but in the KR major proleague you have the random super ace match on the theory that these are the "best" players so a random matchup is justified.
In the KR K-League, they incorporated the "most wins/losses" system to avoid a super unbalanced final match where there's more disparity in skill between the players (and winning and losing is based more on the randomizer than skill)
Also one of the fun elements of the proleague randomizer is everyone going to the person's stream and watching who gets picked in suspense
Another observation (just my two cents), I know Artosis is going off on his own to do solo casting during the matches (which of course is his prerogative and content building, etc) but IMO the spirit of the Proleague format is to cheer on your teammate during the match and also to discuss strategies/meta in real-time (a lot of KR pros exchange tips and observations over discord which helps improve each others' gameplay). Also the Koreans try not to leave only 2 people on a discord call by themselves because it's usually awkward with only 2 people unless they have a really good relationship/chemistry. This is why in KR 3:3 proleagues they usually just do one discord call with both teams in the same voicechat to avoid awkwardness. Again just my two cents from watching a ton of KR proleague is that the discord interaction is just as important as the gameplay to draw in viewers.
In any case, good luck to all those particpating and organizing!
On September 19 2023 04:32 redknights wrote: Another observation (just my two cents), I know Artosis is going off on his own to do solo casting during the matches (which of course is his prerogative and content building, etc) but IMO the spirit of the Proleague format is to cheer on your teammate during the match and also to discuss strategies/meta in real-time (a lot of KR pros exchange tips and observations over discord which helps improve each others' gameplay). Also the Koreans try not to leave only 2 people on a discord call by themselves because it's usually awkward with only 2 people unless they have a really good relationship/chemistry. This is why in KR 3:3 proleagues they usually just do one discord call with both teams in the same voicechat to avoid awkwardness. Again just my two cents from watching a ton of KR proleague is that the discord interaction is just as important as the gameplay to draw in viewers.
In any case, good luck to all those particpating and organizing!
Thanks for the post and info, that was helpful. Always learning more about what makes the events fun and exciting is good, and we'll try to integrate these components the best we can! I like the idea of having a centralized location to figure out the randomizations. I can float that to Artosis.
In regards to Artosis going off to do solo-casting, he's doing this so that he can also piece out each game + upload them to his YT channel. While we lose the collective banter, at least we get a high-quality VOD with dedicated casting for people to keep up with if they're unable to make things live. Also, can help build some awareness over the event at large with his YT audience. It also "doubles" as content for his channel to make the incentives work out so to speak, since most of the time he isn't actually playing for the entire event.
That said, it's worth exploring integrating the banter and crazy talk into the actual games themselves. I guess it depends on what his YT audience wants - a clean VOD with slightly professional casting or a bunch of banter within the team? I can toss the idea to him, but I see the merit of building story-lines with more proper, clean casting.
On September 19 2023 19:02 Crimson)S(hadow wrote: is this thread gonna be like the daily proleague megathread where the results are gonna be logged?
I am logging the results on Braacket so we can use a Glicko ELO system to keep track internally. However, this doesn't show the actual teams and specific results for each set. Link: https://braacket.com/league/napl/dashboard
Admittedly, I do need some admin help getting these results on Liquipedia, if anyone wants to volunteer . Below is the current pro league history
Major Pro League 1 - StRyKeR, gypsy, DragOn, Cavapoo vs. Hawk, BoA, Jaeyun, Artosis + Show Spoiler +
Pro League
Jaeyun <
DragOn
BoA >
gypsy
Hawk >
Cavapoo
Artosis <
StRyKeR
BoA <
StRyKeR
Winner's League
BoA >
gypsy
BoA >
StRyKeR
BoA >
Cavapoo
BoA >
DragOn
Super Ace
BoA <
StRyKeR
Minor Pro League 4 - gypsy, Cavapoo, Doodle vs. Kaido, StRyKeR, cRoSs + Show Spoiler +
Pro League
gypsy >
cRoSs
Doodle <
StRyKeR
Cavapoo <
Kaido
Cavapoo <
Kaido
Winner's League
Doodle <
cRoSs
Cavapoo >
cRoSs
Cavapoo <
StRyKeR
gypsy <
StRyKeR
Minor Pro League 3 - Jaeyun, StRyKeR, DragOn, Hawk vs. Kyrie, cRoSs, Cavapoo, Remapthemind + Show Spoiler +
Pro League
Jaeyun <
cRoSs
StRyKeR <
Kyrie
Hawk >
Cavapoo
DragOn >
Remapthemind
Winner's League
Jaeyun >
Cavapoo
Jaeyun >
Remapthemind
Jaeyun <
Kyrie
StRyKeR >
Kyrie
StRyKeR >
cRoSs
Minor Pro League 2 - Jaeyun, StRyKeR, Kaido, Hawk vs. Kyrie, cRoSs, Cavapoo, Remapthemind + Show Spoiler +
Pro League
Jaeyun <
Cavapoo
Kaido <
cRoSs
DragOn <
Kyrie
Doodle >
Remapthemind
Winner's League
Jaeyun <
cRoSs
Kaido <
cRoSs
Doodle <
cRoSs
DragOn <
cRoSs
Minor Pro League 1 - Jaeyun, StRyKeR, Kaido, Hawk vs. Kyrie, Rudolph, Cavapoo, Remapthemind + Show Spoiler +
On September 18 2023 23:46 redknights wrote: still I think the Koreans only do the most wins/most losses in the super ace in the K-league, as far as I know they only do random picks in major proleague
This time we did super ace = most wins, which was Boa and Stryker. Next time, we will "roll" the conditions as (most wins, most losses, random), then proceed, so there's more suspense for final match.
I don't know how evenly matched the NA participating players are, but in the KR major proleague you have the random super ace match on the theory that these are the "best" players so a random matchup is justified.
In the KR K-League, they incorporated the "most wins/losses" system to avoid a super unbalanced final match where there's more disparity in skill between the players (and winning and losing is based more on the randomizer than skill)
Also one of the fun elements of the proleague randomizer is everyone going to the person's stream and watching who gets picked in suspense
Another observation (just my two cents), I know Artosis is going off on his own to do solo casting during the matches (which of course is his prerogative and content building, etc) but IMO the spirit of the Proleague format is to cheer on your teammate during the match and also to discuss strategies/meta in real-time (a lot of KR pros exchange tips and observations over discord which helps improve each others' gameplay). Also the Koreans try not to leave only 2 people on a discord call by themselves because it's usually awkward with only 2 people unless they have a really good relationship/chemistry. This is why in KR 3:3 proleagues they usually just do one discord call with both teams in the same voicechat to avoid awkwardness. Again just my two cents from watching a ton of KR proleague is that the discord interaction is just as important as the gameplay to draw in viewers.
In any case, good luck to all those particpating and organizing!
i agree, i would much prefer team banter like in korean proleaagues to solo-casting during proleagues
On September 18 2023 23:46 redknights wrote: still I think the Koreans only do the most wins/most losses in the super ace in the K-league, as far as I know they only do random picks in major proleague
This time we did super ace = most wins, which was Boa and Stryker. Next time, we will "roll" the conditions as (most wins, most losses, random), then proceed, so there's more suspense for final match.
I don't know how evenly matched the NA participating players are, but in the KR major proleague you have the random super ace match on the theory that these are the "best" players so a random matchup is justified.
In the KR K-League, they incorporated the "most wins/losses" system to avoid a super unbalanced final match where there's more disparity in skill between the players (and winning and losing is based more on the randomizer than skill)
Also one of the fun elements of the proleague randomizer is everyone going to the person's stream and watching who gets picked in suspense
Another observation (just my two cents), I know Artosis is going off on his own to do solo casting during the matches (which of course is his prerogative and content building, etc) but IMO the spirit of the Proleague format is to cheer on your teammate during the match and also to discuss strategies/meta in real-time (a lot of KR pros exchange tips and observations over discord which helps improve each others' gameplay). Also the Koreans try not to leave only 2 people on a discord call by themselves because it's usually awkward with only 2 people unless they have a really good relationship/chemistry. This is why in KR 3:3 proleagues they usually just do one discord call with both teams in the same voicechat to avoid awkwardness. Again just my two cents from watching a ton of KR proleague is that the discord interaction is just as important as the gameplay to draw in viewers.
In any case, good luck to all those particpating and organizing!
i agree, i would much prefer team banter like in korean proleaagues to solo-casting during proleagues
Agree as well. Artosis did a great job in the one video i watched. But in the long run i d rather watch the banter, esp since otherwise I do not have a massive interest in those games since I ve only become NA recently. Now those games with the banter would be amazing since A) you get more involved in the games and get to know the players (particularly valuable to non NA viewers) and B) you learn stuff as viewed by the players themselves, each of them having a fresh perspective. One possible option would be a toggable window/sound stream between either artosis voice or "the banter"? I have very limited casting knowledge but it might be doable?
On September 19 2023 02:19 Shinokuki wrote: Huge success. I think we got combined viewership close to ~3K viewers which is insane for NA.
Thats the Artosis viewership, not the The North America Pro League / Foreigner viewership
User was banned for this post.
I'm curious, why'd this guy get banned? Is it because he's like a smurf of a banned user or something? I don't think he said anything egregiously incorrect.
On September 19 2023 02:19 Shinokuki wrote: Huge success. I think we got combined viewership close to ~3K viewers which is insane for NA.
Thats the Artosis viewership, not the The North America Pro League / Foreigner viewership
User was banned for this post.
I'm curious, why'd this guy get banned? Is it because he's like a smurf of a banned user or something? I don't think he said anything egregiously incorrect.
not sure if there were other streams today. But for easier discoverability you could @ others' streams in the stream titles. That makes them clickable and easy to find. Makes it easier than checking who in the SC section may be a participant. ofc adds the burdon and gathering everyone's twitch handle and check whether they plan on streaming
Really awesome to see something like this starting up. I had a class with Hawk at university so naturally I have to root for him haha. Thank you for putting this together!
K-League meaning This is because the major proleague has been likened to the Champions League in soccer. K League means Korean professional soccer league. Nevertheless, it is very fun to use the K-League title as is in this content.
Also, I started up the official Patreon for the NA Pro League and am retiring Matcherino (since this is a continuous league). The remaining funds from Matcherino are still being used to fund future events and we currently have ~$500 in the pot.
Next event will be Minor Proleague this Friday at 5pm PST on JY's channel, then a special NaS vs. NAKR clan war event on Sunday at 5:30pm PST. Tune in!
StRyKeR continues to dominate NA Pro League as the top-ranked player for the majority of the league since inception, most notably gating
BoA with a 4-1 record against him
Kyrie unfortunately has not yet been able to attend a major event, and retains his #2 spot from dominant performances in minors
gypsy is slowly climbing with strong performances after a short break
Kaido continues to struggle and perform to his level on the big stage
HUGE thanks to the few early Patreon supports (Artosis, Launch, Diggity, Disaster, Grant) getting us to $59/month! We also have $292.37 in the bank from the initial set of donators (again, HUGE thanks to folks like MyFleetingDream, Schamtoo, SuGo, and everyone else).
This has been very well orchestrated and there's been an apparent uptick in motivation, competitiveness, and activity amongst players. Many of us (most of us?) know each other not just from many years of online chatter, but also in-person as well. As a result, the banter, friendly trash-talk, and general conversation is often much more fluid and personable. This creates a more enjoyable culture for the players and also the audience who often enjoy listening to the players' conversation (I think? I hope?)
The 4th rendition was the first time I was made aware of this. There is a reason this is super successful content on a daily basis on Afreeca. I really enjoyed it, the banter is amazing and its a ton of fun to listen to. First time in ages I actually went back and watched a twitch vod to catch what I missed live!
A bit of a shame the Major PL only happens every other week given that this happens daily on Afreeca. I think a patreon is a solid idea to provide some funding, but why not do what Koreans do and use balloons (or in this case bits) raised by each individuals twitch stream and redistribute those to the winning team? Granted this would mainly take money from Artosis and give it to other foreigners, but any incentive that pays people to practice BW outside of a korea is a good one in my book.
Would be daft to see EU Proleage as well or maybe have one including all foreigners once a month or smth.
On October 31 2023 08:20 Ty2 wrote: Great community event Keeping BW and the NA scene alive
Dragon shaking in his boots at the thought of a possible Ty2 return.. hope to see you back
On November 01 2023 21:43 Lorch wrote: The 4th rendition was the first time I was made aware of this. There is a reason this is super successful content on a daily basis on Afreeca. I really enjoyed it, the banter is amazing and its a ton of fun to listen to. First time in ages I actually went back and watched a twitch vod to catch what I missed live!
A bit of a shame the Major PL only happens every other week given that this happens daily on Afreeca. I think a patreon is a solid idea to provide some funding, but why not do what Koreans do and use balloons (or in this case bits) raised by each individuals twitch stream and redistribute those to the winning team? Granted this would mainly take money from Artosis and give it to other foreigners, but any incentive that pays people to practice BW outside of a korea is a good one in my book.
Would be daft to see EU Proleage as well or maybe have one including all foreigners once a month or smth.
Thanks for the support and the suggestions. One difference that makes the fundraising difficult is most of the NA folks don't actually stream, whereas the Korean streamers all have their own audiences and fan bases, so they can crowdsource the funds by asking and begging and such. Gypsy is probably the only real streamer who streams consistently, and maybe me, but I'm pretty on-and-off. As you said, we're grateful Artosis is already providing the platform and advertising for funding / Patreon, but we don't want the funding to conflict from his regular revenue as well.
Proleagues vs. other continents is something I've been thinking about and would add as a stretch goal for our Patreon. I'd love to coordinate with EU or SA folks to make it happen every now and then, although it's really, really hard to get time-zones to match up for it to be frequent enough. Further, these formats have to be played live whereas previous continent battles that ZZZero hosted could be pre-played and rep-casted.
On November 01 2023 21:43 Lorch wrote: The 4th rendition was the first time I was made aware of this. There is a reason this is super successful content on a daily basis on Afreeca. I really enjoyed it, the banter is amazing and its a ton of fun to listen to. First time in ages I actually went back and watched a twitch vod to catch what I missed live!
A bit of a shame the Major PL only happens every other week given that this happens daily on Afreeca. I think a patreon is a solid idea to provide some funding, but why not do what Koreans do and use balloons (or in this case bits) raised by each individuals twitch stream and redistribute those to the winning team? Granted this would mainly take money from Artosis and give it to other foreigners, but any incentive that pays people to practice BW outside of a korea is a good one in my book.
Would be daft to see EU Proleage as well or maybe have one including all foreigners once a month or smth.
Thanks for the support and the suggestions. One difference that makes the fundraising difficult is most of the NA folks don't actually stream, whereas the Korean streamers all have their own audiences and fan bases, so they can crowdsource the funds by asking and begging and such. Gypsy is probably the only real streamer who streams consistently, and maybe me, but I'm pretty on-and-off. As you said, we're grateful Artosis is already providing the platform and advertising for funding / Patreon, but we don't want the funding to conflict from his regular revenue as well.
Proleagues vs. other continents is something I've been thinking about and would add as a stretch goal for our Patreon. I'd love to coordinate with EU or SA folks to make it happen every now and then, although it's really, really hard to get time-zones to match up for it to be frequent enough. Further, these formats have to be played live whereas previous continent battles that ZZZero hosted could be pre-played and rep-casted.
Ye I suppose it would just end up being a redistribution of part of artosis' twitch income '^_^ I didn't realize so few people streamed. It might be worth having everyone at least stream during the PL games, I always enjoy having multiple povs open during KRPL. Timezones are a major headache idd, would certainly be hard to get ~8-12 people from EU/NA together on a weekly basis. I think a bi-monthly event is worthwhile for sure though. Suppose NA vs SA would be easier though in terms of time zones. I saw the stretch goal, was enough to make me jump the gun and subscribe Can't wait for the 5th NAPL!
Timezones are a major headache idd, would certainly be hard to get ~8-12 people from EU/NA together on a weekly basis. I think a bi-monthly event is worthwhile for sure though. Suppose NA vs SA would be easier though in terms of time zones. I saw the stretch goal, was enough to make me jump the gun and subscribe
THANK YOU!!! Hopefully we can get some continent battles going
On November 03 2023 21:47 RaNgeD wrote: How do I sign up ? Would love to play some games with you guys.
I'll DM you the Discord link. There isn't really a "sign-up". It's just a centralized Discord run by players, and you just say you want to participate. Typically though we would want newer folks to start off in K-League (same thing, just lower tier) before moving up to Proleague. The K-League bar is around >1900 but there's several fringe-S as well.
gypsy continues his dominance against NA Zergs. However, his potential all-kill and #1 ELO slot is denied by
SuGo, who continues to back his banter up with words and is up to #6.
Hawk consistently wins against lower ranked players, but has been struggling to log any wins against the top players as of late.
StRyKeR retains his #1 spot, but the ELO differential between him and 5th ranked
JY is just 19 points. A LOT can happen in the rankings in the next Proleague.
Yuuge thanks to the new Patreon supporters (Doodle, CasualCompete, Richard Eyre, Lukas Lang, Kaleb, Kevin, Robert M - sorry don't know your ID's)! This brings us to $122 monthly. $78 more and we'll begin organizing continent battles!
HUGE thanks to Doodle, RefridgeRaider, DanielWilson, and PatrickHennebery for becoming NEW Patreon supporters! We are now at $136 monthly recurring and with expanded interest, we're brainstorming expanding the proleague with more content (showmatches, nation wars, etc.)! Soon, we'll host a special USA vs. CAN proleague, so stay tuned.
Also, sorry for the poor production quality of my casting + being sick coughing on the ArtosisCasts VODs, will be more mindful of it next time.
gypsy with a powerhouse performance and holds a 5-1 record vs BSL semifinalist
cRoSs, but his all-kill was denied by
StRyKeR.
Kyrie continuing to show his early wins were not flukes, and for the first time snatches the #1 spot away from
StRyKeR.
gypsy trails closely behind at #3.
As an aside, K-League has been really active with 3+ team battle events weekly and ~25+ players. Recommend checking out the latest K-League rankings and some of their events streamed by Herbmon, Azhi_Dahaki, nesh_dev, and whoever else happens to be on.
If there are EU/LATAM proleagues, they would have to be managed separately by orgs in their regions. Those events wouldn't be a part of our league, but every now and then we could battle across regions.
Getting folks to all show up and play, chat together for hours consistently is no easy task and really just requires community engagement.
Edit: I thought I heard from Terror someone was starting up an SA Proleague. Don't know the details or if it's a similar format though.
Thanks to LML, Flying, Stryker, Jon, Stephen as our new Patreon supporters, with a SPECIAL shout-out to Logan as our first VIP ($100) supporter. We are now at $263 monthly with 20 paid subs with 23 completed pro league events every single week for the past 3 months. Hitting our $200 monthly goal means we'll try to set up a continent battle! Please be patient as these are difficult to organize, but I'll reach out to representatives and hopefully we can get one going in the next month. Super happy with the progress and couldn't be possible without all the supporters, paid or not.
cRoSs with the dominating 5-0 performance, completing the all-kill and reminding everyone he doesn't belong down at #8. This win bumps him to the top 4 in one go.
StRyKeR starting to show cracks since he fell off his #1 spot in the past month.
SuGo backing up his trash talk with a strong PvP win against
gypsy continues with the rampage, going 5-0 and completing the all-kill and a $232 prize for his team. He holds an impressive 7-1 record against
cRoSs, who has also bumped up into the top 3, knocking
StRyKeR out of the top 3 for the first time.
BoA showing signs of struggle, especially playing strong Zergs and hasn't faced a single Terran since Major Proleague 3, and falls to #6 behind
Hawk.
JY has had relatively weak performances as of late, and also falls behind
SuGo at #7 with the head-to-head loss.
CALL FOR HELP! We are on the lookout for a caster rotation for a potential 1v1 showmatch series to augment the NAPL events and always looking for any interested content creators (funny emotes, YT highlights, etc.). Please reach out if interested!
Also, if you are interested in playing, please read the original post and reach out like everybody else.
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Ty2 and 
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