EPTGomTV S3 MSL - Round of 16 - Oct. 18 - Page 22
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Aepplet
Sweden2908 Posts
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Jyvblamo
Canada13788 Posts
On October 19 2007 06:31 Thegreatbeyond wrote: First of all you and the person above you don't have to insult me, I understand why its forbidden as because if your trying a risky strategy and its discovered then its GG, and plenty of other stuff. However its part of the game. I'm only trying point out that if you try to stop that, then why don't we stop players from getting past mineral walls or better yet get rid of defilers as I already pointed out? I believe there was a defiler imba thread, and defilers in some cases gave free wins in particular battles. Hatchery bug is also part of the game, but that doesn't mean it should be allowed. Edit: 1/5, thanks a bunch Stork. | ||
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cravy
United States525 Posts
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Highways
Australia6106 Posts
0/5 | ||
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Aurious
Canada1772 Posts
On October 19 2007 07:22 Highways wrote: fucking hell 0/5 same >_< | ||
jkillashark
United States5262 Posts
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alffla
Hong Kong20321 Posts
On October 19 2007 07:24 jkillashark wrote: IF XELLOS ABSTAINS FROM DDR HE WILL WIN MSL. that'll be insane fuck its like i dont know what happened to TL or smething when'd you lose your bold name jkilla?! -_- | ||
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ShaLLoW[baY]
Canada12499 Posts
On October 18 2007 22:40 TaDa1. wrote: savior 1 hatch muta was crazy the best part was when the commentators realized what he was doing, and started saying "wun hatch laya! (one hatch lair)" in amazement. | ||
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ZidaneTribal
United States2800 Posts
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Jyvblamo
Canada13788 Posts
"Free beats Lomo's cheese thnx to shield battery" "ForGGot about go.go?" And so on and so forth. | ||
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Camlito
Australia4040 Posts
On October 19 2007 07:58 ZidaneTribal wrote: is this stork's first win vs savior? erm didn't he win vs savior like 2 years ago? check tlpd | ||
OneOther
United States10774 Posts
On October 19 2007 06:31 Thegreatbeyond wrote: First of all you and the person above you don't have to insult me, I understand why its forbidden as because if your trying a risky strategy and its discovered then its GG, and plenty of other stuff. However its part of the game. I'm only trying point out that if you try to stop that, then why don't we stop players from getting past mineral walls or better yet get rid of defilers as I already pointed out? I believe there was a defiler imba thread, and defilers in some cases gave free wins in particular battles. lol you must be retarded. do you seriously not recognize the difference between a formally banned bug and normal function of a SC unit? ps defilers aren't imba. for evidence check out savior's latest proleague games | ||
Live2Win
United States6657 Posts
On October 19 2007 08:04 Jyvblamo wrote: I can already see next week's MSL headlines: "Free beats Lomo's cheese thnx to shield battery" "ForGGot about go.go?" And so on and so forth. that free one made me laugh | ||
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crazie-penguin
United States1253 Posts
i don't get the free one  ... | ||
Last Romantic
United States20661 Posts
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Live2Win
United States6657 Posts
On October 19 2007 06:31 Thegreatbeyond wrote: First of all you and the person above you don't have to insult me, I understand why its forbidden as because if your trying a risky strategy and its discovered then its GG, and plenty of other stuff. However its part of the game. I'm only trying point out that if you try to stop that, then why don't we stop players from getting past mineral walls or better yet get rid of defilers as I already pointed out? I believe there was a defiler imba thread, and defilers in some cases gave free wins in particular battles. Call me dumb if you want, but I sort of see this guy's point of view (although imo the examples he used are horrible). The reason this move is banned if I'm correct, is because it's an unfair way to get into the opponent's base. If the opponent blocks his ramp with his units successfully to prevent you from scouting, then you shouldn't be allowed in. But let's face it. He used a "bug" that's already allowed in every other aspect of the game. The "bug" that these guys are using is that when a unit is given the "mine" command or the "return cargo" command, they automatically become able to slide through units. By clicking that and hitting "stop" as soon as possible, they are able to make the worker become transparent, and then un-transparent within half a second, which makes them overlap the opponent's units and messes up their formation. But this concept is already being used in different situations. What exactly about this move is illegal? The fact that he is able to make his worker slide and then unslide to mess up unit formation? That's used all the time in worker defense. The fact that they use mine/cargo return to slide through units? That's used all the time when you're trying to keep your scouting peon alive. They're not using a new bug, they're using an old bug in a new way. So then WHAT makes this move illegal and to be banned? It seems the only reason is because it messes with the balance of the game. Let me give an example of a similar trick. Pylon jumping. Though not used often anymore, protoss users use to be able to hop over Terran's barracks/supply wall by sticking their probe close to the supply depot, building a pylon, and "hopping" the probe over. How is this much different from the other bug? Both are using a bug that is allowed in other aspects of the game, yet both are overcoming obstacles that should be overcome. If the only reason for banning the scv's cargo return bug is that "when the ramp is blocked, you shouldn't be allowed in" then the same should go for the pylon hop bug.... if a terran walled correctly, then the probe should not be allowed in. Another example is the vulture hop. We've seen BoxeR overcome a pylon/forge wall by mining real close to the pylons, and successfully "hopping" his vultures over to the otherside. This is again another example of a "bug" being used to overcome an obstacle that shouldn't have been overcome. Of course, I agree this new "bug" does make the game incredibly gay, and I prefer it to stay banned. But I just don't see any real justification as to why it should be banned. | ||
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SonuvBob
Aiur21550 Posts
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red.venom
United States4651 Posts
He could not see through fog of war and Ra is putting units on his ramp for the sole purpose of denying scouting. If Forgg happened to go through the trouble of lifting an ebay or rax to see the nat minerals and then slides through.. Thats FINE. But the way he did it is simply taking advantage of a bug, why would anyone ever block their ramp with workers if this was allowed? Its like the drone slide that used to exist in the 1.08. Just because that happened to be IN the game doesnt mean it was something someone should use in gameplay as it was clearly a bug. "Oh nydus in my base that I couldnt see at all, its in the game.. gg" | ||
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Tyrio
United States3248 Posts
Free <3 | ||
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Wizard
Poland5055 Posts
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