Who Is Who ICCup Season 2 - Page 44

On November 10 2007 01:58 IdrA wrote:
no they couldnt
draco/lx/pj were living and playing with koreans and barely reached progamer level after a year(its hard to say if they did or not since we barely saw them play vs other pros)
and you would progress even slower practicing vs other foreigners, since foreigners are far worse than koreans.

On November 10 2007 02:37 CapO wrote:


u gotta be kidding me lol =p

On November 10 2007 03:50 IdrA wrote:
im not saying koreans are naturally better
but the fact is, because of the difference in environments, korean pros are massively better right now. so obviously its more beneficial to practice vs them than foreigners (you learn more and improve faster by playing people better than yourself). the fact that top foreigners still take a year or more to reach progamer ability when practicing vs pro koreans means it will take even longer for top foreigners to reach pro level just practicing with each other.
im not saying it would be impossible, just that it would take way longer than 6 months and would be far less efficient than sticking 1-2 top foreigners in each pro team.

On November 10 2007 04:28 IdrA wrote:
that would be true if the biggest stepping stone between good foreigner and progamer was strategy or intelligence, but it isnt. if you compare games of both the biggest, most obvious difference is mechanics.
some top foreigners like mondi, testie are clearly smarter, more creative players than some of the cookie-cutter terran pros. but theyre just so far behind in micro, macro, timing that they cant beat them anyway.
its not like you go into a pro team and they teach you secret game-altering strategies. you just practice, and practice, and practice, and practice.

On November 11 2007 22:30 sataNik[pG] wrote:
A team is alot more than individuals practicing together, much like a friend is a lot more than a classmate. The same aplies to brood war: when u think of the other players like classmates that you antagonise, u get a certain drive as the better they are the more u push yourself to become better. In this case what you are only trying is to be the best and u dont give jack about the others. You are on your own. On the other hand when u regard your team members like family, you give your care and time to everyone needing help, in the areas they need it. Thats enormous boost. And to give a somewhat funny example: Imagine you being Boxer and having in your team Idra and oov. They are of same strength, young and promising, eager to become better and stuff. But u just happen to feel a little more sympathy for oov for some weird reason (cuteness,kindness,karma,the fact that u can get some advice about the girl you like in a language that u understand, u name it). So you are spending most of your time with him, seeing his games, locating his weaknesses, advising him,encouraging him, even sharing jokes about nuke rushes vs protoss.

On November 12 2007 00:05 Sadist wrote:



thats true but there are aspects that you may not think about necessarily that could greatly improve your game, + there could be tips on mechanics.

Im not saying it would be that way for everyone, im just saying that sometimes getting another perspective on something could help you out. For some people that perspective could completely change their game.