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KCM 2021 Season 3

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sc19980331
Profile Joined March 2017
China1609 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-10-27 04:01:04
August 18 2021 09:35 GMT
#1
(Wiki)KCM/Race Survival/2021/3
Time: KST 19:00, every Wednesday or Tuesday/Thursday(when overlap with ASL12)
Stream: http://www.afreecatv.com/cjfals28/
VOD: https://www.youtube.com/KCMTV

8 Regular Weeks:
+ Show Spoiler +

Week#1 8/18/2021
Zerg: Zero Action Shine
Terran: Light Rush Ample
Protoss: Best Snow Motive

Week#2 8/24/2021
Zerg: Soma Hero Shine
Terran: Sorry JyJ Sharp
Protoss: Mini Shuttle Mighty

Week#3 9/2/2021
Zerg: Zero Soma Soulkey
Terran: Light Sorry Sexy(Speed)
Protoss: Snow Mini Noob

Week#4 9/9/2021
Zerg: Zero Soma Soulkey
Terran: Light Rush Sexy(Speed)
Protoss: Snow Mini Best

Week#5 9/16/2021
Zerg: Soulkey Hero Miso
Terran: Light JyJ Sorry
Protoss: Snow Best Huro

Week#6 9/29/2021
Zerg: Effort Miso Ggaemo
Terran: Light JyJ Sexy(Speed)
Protoss: Snow Best Shuttle

Week#7 10/6/2021
Zerg: Soma Hero Miso
Terran: Rush JyJ Sharp
Protoss: Best Shuttle Huro

Week#8 10/15/2021
Zerg: Miso Hero Soma
Terran: Sharp Rush Mong
Protoss: Mini Shuttle Free


Playoffs:
TvZ 10/20/2021
Rush Sorry Sharp Sexy(Speed)
Soulkey Hero Shine Miso

PvZ 10/27/2021
Mini Snow Best Shuttle
Soulkey Hero Shine Miso

Ref:
(Wiki)KCM/Race Survival/2021/1
https://tl.net/forum/bw-tournaments/569391-kcm-2021-season-1

(Wiki)KCM/Race Survival/2021/2
https://tl.net/forum/bw-tournaments/576241-kcm-2021-season-2-finals-7-28-2021
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oEkY
Profile Joined August 2016
Germany649 Posts
August 18 2021 11:53 GMT
#2
KCM is using Destination this time, pretty cool!
M3t4PhYzX
Profile Joined March 2019
Poland4267 Posts
August 18 2021 13:24 GMT
#3
love this series

<3
2Pacalypse-
Profile Joined October 2006
Croatia9539 Posts
August 18 2021 13:44 GMT
#4
Thx for posting! Week 1 VOD can be found here:
https://vod.afreecatv.com/PLAYER/STATION/76537057
Moderator"We're a community of geniuses because we've found how to extract 95% of the feeling of doing something amazing without actually doing anything." - Chill
Just_a_Moth
Profile Joined March 2012
Canada1968 Posts
August 18 2021 16:13 GMT
#5
I love KCM
moktira *
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Ireland1548 Posts
August 21 2021 15:02 GMT
#6
Just watched Week 1: + Show Spoiler +
Unreal performance from (P)Snow with the all kill!
If in doubt, differentiate and set equal to zero
Just_a_Moth
Profile Joined March 2012
Canada1968 Posts
August 22 2021 06:59 GMT
#7
On August 22 2021 00:02 moktira wrote:
Just watched Week 1: + Show Spoiler +
Unreal performance from (P)Snow with the all kill!

I got to watch Week 1 live + Show Spoiler +
I think it's the first time I've seen an all kill live.
Jubinell
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
333 Posts
August 25 2021 05:20 GMT
#8
Week 2
+ Show Spoiler +
Another crazy week and astounding performance for protoss!
LosingID8
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
CA10830 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-08-25 06:10:33
August 25 2021 06:09 GMT
#9
week 2 was unreal, go watch every game

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GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51607 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-08-25 08:30:42
August 25 2021 08:30 GMT
#10
cool how the sponsor for this season is the izakaya franchise that best owns a branch of
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Jubinell
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
333 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-08-25 17:19:45
August 25 2021 17:13 GMT
#11
Please let the legend of the fall carry over to KCM this year!
2011 Legend of the Fall: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLD3B5CA3518E087C3
moktira *
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Ireland1548 Posts
August 26 2021 08:15 GMT
#12
On August 25 2021 15:09 LosingID8 wrote:
week 2 was unreal, go watch every game

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IFSrQjZJ30M

Absolutely, what a great series, another epic PvZ in there, must be the third or fourth I've seen in the last week that's gone well over the half an hour mark.
+ Show Spoiler +
Great job Mini, he's been playing well lately but I didn't expect him to get the all kill, He seems to have really harassment and I loved seeing the Dark Archon!
A few times against Hero I thought he was out, especially when it looked like the Mutas were going to sack his main.

That must have been the first PvT I've seen on Lemon that didn't have Carriers too. Mini was quite greedy going for the early Nexus (something I didn't think was necessary on this map) so when JyJ took it out I didn't think he'd be able to come back. But he went 12 Nexus into 2 Gate and only took one gas, maybe JyJ was also expecting Carriers so didn't expect that number of Gateway units when he moved out?

Great series anyway.
If in doubt, differentiate and set equal to zero
M3t4PhYzX
Profile Joined March 2019
Poland4267 Posts
August 27 2021 06:35 GMT
#13
amazing games so far <3
WiSaGaN
Profile Joined July 2006
203 Posts
August 27 2021 08:36 GMT
#14
mini is so fun to watch.
HOLYBATS
Profile Joined August 2021
Turkey791 Posts
August 27 2021 09:31 GMT
#15
Watched both games,Week 1 & 2. Both of them is wonderful.
Patasti
Profile Joined July 2020
Romania15 Posts
September 02 2021 10:18 GMT
#16
Now live again, probably week3: https://play.afreecatv.com/cjfals28/235577088
Too bad nobody is covering anymore on the liquidpedia page.
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania8898 Posts
September 02 2021 11:30 GMT
#17
+ Show Spoiler +
Speed(Sexy) upsets mini in a nice TvP
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
Patasti
Profile Joined July 2020
Romania15 Posts
September 02 2021 11:53 GMT
#18
+ Show Spoiler +
Also kills Queen
NotoriousSCV
Profile Joined September 2021
27 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-09-02 18:52:17
September 02 2021 18:37 GMT
#19
I've not posted on here for years, wow. This bothers me that much to sign up again just to post it.

But I had to say something about that last game, Snow's control of Carriers CANNOT be the optimal micro. At one point at 9 carriers it looked like an a-move situation. If they keep doing the 'trick' to bring inceptors out, it leaves them vulnerable to the goliaths AA - it overkills units wasting inceptors - watch the game and tell me it wouldn't have been better just to a-move into the goliath ball from a cliff and move back the damaged Carrier (if they target it). This inceptor trick is actually worse than a-move in those situations.

There's no way picking off one at a time makes sense. I imagine myself in a noob game in that situation (we've all done it! and even with 16 goliaths i'd be worried about those carriers just moving straight through them. You want him to be able to try and target the carriers, it makes him stop taking out the inceptors.

He's bringing out EVERY inceptor to hit each item, that's a waste of potential damage and leaves them hanging in the air. They are supposed to go and get repaired automatically - if he keeps doing the trick they never go back automatically.

Also no air armour on a carrier build (GOLIATH ATTACK COUNTS AS 2!! imagine 1 air armour and 1 shield from Forge!!) ? And stuck around 130 supply? Before he lost his 3rd he could have just a-moved into the high ground (ignoring tanks all damage on goliaths). Sure he may have lost some carriers. Sometimes it's frustrating watching them try and pick around the edge. Watch the VOD when its out please tell me what you think, it looks totally wrong to me, i'm sure its a case of a pro doing the wrong thing.

Reminds me of another P situation where they NEVER engage the T ball head on anymore. But gives them time to get to 200/200. Felt like he was trying to keep the Carriers alive rather than bases. 1-1-1 Carriers would look imba.
TMNT
Profile Joined January 2021
3221 Posts
September 02 2021 19:36 GMT
#20
^ It's never better to A move Carrier into a Goliath ball. They are slow and you can't retreat fast enough, and even if you do, next time they'll get killed instantly. I think you underestimate how fast Carriers die to Goliaths. Sure the manual target overkills Goliath, but on the other hand if you A move it becomes underkill.

Best case scenario you'll end up killing all the Goliaths but lose most of your Carriers, and the next wave of reinforcing Goliaths will kill you, and then you have nothing left but 2 or 3 new Carriers with no interceptors.
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