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Terrorbladder
Profile Joined May 2014
2719 Posts
April 19 2020 11:16 GMT
#101
On April 19 2020 20:13 Dangermousecatdog wrote:
So Flash chooses to play seriously in the third placement match instead of the semi-finals.
He wants all medals. Gold, Silver acquired, now Bronze.
My dream is to fertilize two females at a time.
mechzdeus
Profile Joined July 2018
88 Posts
April 19 2020 11:19 GMT
#102
Maybe Flash is toying with playing the other races so he becomes a race picker so that Terran stops getting map sniped.
RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13112 Posts
April 19 2020 11:19 GMT
#103
Soma struggles a bit after the muta phase of the game. Had same issues vs Light. Needs to work on multi tasking a bit perhaps...
"Terrans are pretty much space-Australians" - H
outscar
Profile Joined September 2014
2832 Posts
April 19 2020 11:19 GMT
#104
At least FlaSh doesn't need to go to qualifiers once again, auto seed to ro16. Hope he will switch race, that will make him even the greatest of the greatest.
sunbeams are never made like me...
att
Profile Joined March 2020
128 Posts
April 19 2020 11:22 GMT
#105
On April 19 2020 20:19 outscar wrote:
At least FlaSh doesn't need to go to qualifiers once again, auto seed to ro16. Hope he will switch race, that will make him even the greatest of the greatest.

He just spreads these stupid rumors like oh its going to be my last asl, or oh im going to play protoss from now on. Its stupid mindgames, and he needs to be called out on doing that crap, cause its not cool
Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8548 Posts
April 19 2020 11:22 GMT
#106
On April 19 2020 20:16 Terrorbladder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 19 2020 20:13 Dangermousecatdog wrote:
So Flash chooses to play seriously in the third placement match instead of the semi-finals.
He wants all medals. Gold, Silver acquired, now Bronze.


Play serious? I don't think he played any better than in his previous series... Chosim choked pretty hard, which made Flash look a bit better (and to be fair, g3 Flash played a bit better towards the end). No idea what's going on with him but he is looking alarmingly mortal...
Snorkels
Profile Joined May 2011
United States1015 Posts
April 19 2020 11:23 GMT
#107
Oh dang finals is next week

20 minutes of the Tastosis talk show at least is nice
Dante08
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Singapore4128 Posts
April 19 2020 11:26 GMT
#108
Good guy Flash losing the semis to prevent a TvT finals.
mcgormack
Profile Joined March 2020
51 Posts
April 19 2020 13:01 GMT
#109
Gotta give credit to Soma.

He went for style points in this tournament, going for the more creative and wilder strategies, and it's been quite entertaining to see. ASL has been missing those since Shine don't qualify anymore.
Brainojack
Profile Joined March 2018
Canada195 Posts
April 19 2020 13:15 GMT
#110
On April 19 2020 20:22 att wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 19 2020 20:19 outscar wrote:
At least FlaSh doesn't need to go to qualifiers once again, auto seed to ro16. Hope he will switch race, that will make him even the greatest of the greatest.

He just spreads these stupid rumors like oh its going to be my last asl, or oh im going to play protoss from now on. Its stupid mindgames, and he needs to be called out on doing that crap, cause its not cool


https://tl.net/forum/brood-war/558878-flash-says-he-will-choose-random
kaspa84
Profile Joined July 2016
Brazil169 Posts
April 19 2020 14:31 GMT
#111
Pretty underwhelming series tbh.
Just_a_Moth
Profile Joined March 2012
Canada1956 Posts
April 19 2020 16:08 GMT
#112
Floating factories and building vultures is dumb.
whaski
Profile Joined December 2012
Finland577 Posts
April 19 2020 16:10 GMT
#113
Disappointing series for sure. At least game 2 was fun and 3 could have been longer struggle. Flash just did his thing and it was over...
it's not just a music it's something else
mierin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States4943 Posts
April 19 2020 18:25 GMT
#114
What a curbstomp. I'm expecting the finals to be way better though
JD, Stork, Calm, Hyuk Fighting!
Deleted User 513418
Profile Joined November 2019
138 Posts
April 19 2020 19:46 GMT
#115
Poor Soma.
Djabanete
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States2786 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-04-19 20:32:17
April 19 2020 20:26 GMT
#116
Here’s my guess for why Z has a hard time blocking vult harass on Hitchhiker by simply plugging the side entrance with 2 or 3 hydras.

A) Vults can come up the main ramp if T simply floats the fac.
B) Vults can cliff the nat, in which case you need a hydra on low ground in the nat.
C) Wraiths can hunt ovies.
D) If you block with hydras by putting them way off to the side, they’ll be horribly out of position vs any other kind of harassment, and if vults somehow do get in you’ll be too slow to respond.

Seems to me that good Zergs attempt to protect their drones by keeping hydras in the vicinity of the drones and actively controlling the hydras. It didn’t work out for Action or Soma but that must be the reasoning. It’s not possible that it literally never occurred to them, in practice or in their matches against Flash, that they could block the entrance.

Edit: More guesswork: Soma expected the first vult later than it came. He thought Flash would float all the way across (longer) and send the vult through the side door (longer) for the two-pronged attack. He was gonna fend off the marines with lings and a sunk and have hydras pop just in time to protect the main mineral line. Instead the vult was with the marines and it got in and Soma was off-balance the rest of the game.
May the BeSt man win.
JiYan
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States3668 Posts
April 19 2020 21:02 GMT
#117
He seemed extremely unprepared games 1/2
darktreb
Profile Joined May 2007
United States3016 Posts
April 20 2020 00:21 GMT
#118
"Every game on Hitchhiker is like this"

^ said by people who have seen two games total on Hitchhiker that went like this.
Kaolla
Profile Joined January 2003
China2999 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-04-20 00:50:15
April 20 2020 00:49 GMT
#119
On April 20 2020 09:21 darktreb wrote:
"Every game on Hitchhiker is like this"

^ said by people who have seen two games total on Hitchhiker that went like this.


exactly, Hitchhiker is fine, but these "low eco" maps are getting voted out because the produce bad games due to players playing macro games and fucking up. Not every game should open with a free expansion for both players. Zergs (or any players) have a great chance if terran plays 1 base , yea it requires more attention early game but thats what the game is like. Used to be ages like this, but it seems these days if its not a 2 base opening its a bad map and imbalance blabla... Really shitty. I welcome maps like these. Break the macro meta which is somewhat boring (imo).
its me
RKC
Profile Joined June 2012
2848 Posts
April 20 2020 02:04 GMT
#120
On April 20 2020 09:49 Kaolla wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 20 2020 09:21 darktreb wrote:
"Every game on Hitchhiker is like this"

^ said by people who have seen two games total on Hitchhiker that went like this.


exactly, Hitchhiker is fine, but these "low eco" maps are getting voted out because the produce bad games due to players playing macro games and fucking up. Not every game should open with a free expansion for both players. Zergs (or any players) have a great chance if terran plays 1 base , yea it requires more attention early game but thats what the game is like. Used to be ages like this, but it seems these days if its not a 2 base opening its a bad map and imbalance blabla... Really shitty. I welcome maps like these. Break the macro meta which is somewhat boring (imo).


Exactly. I don't see why it should be the norm for players to get a 'free' 2nd base. Bases, even main bases, should have second exits and/or be surrounded by cliffs. This allows for early game scouting for Terran and Protoss, too. I feel that Zergs have a somewhat unfair advantage in early-game scouting (hence, they can execute busts and fake bust more easily).

It's not realistic that bases are arbitrarily 'walled off' by some invisible screen. A strategy-based game should be based on real warfare as much as possible.

Of course, this may unbalance certain matchups. But if Terran can siege up cliffs with tanks, Zergs can muta harass or siege up with guardians. Zerg have viable strats even on 'low econ' (fast defilers).

We should have more dynamic maps to freshen up the meta.
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