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On October 31 2017 12:31 _Animus_ wrote:Show nested quote +On October 31 2017 10:49 mIsUZu wrote:On October 31 2017 08:37 _Animus_ wrote:No. Jangbi gets into his opponents mind and controls from there with a clear route for the win, he was the player who managed to confuse Flash. Bisu style differs much, he is trying to be everywhere and get his opponent have hard time concentrating on that many things and drag him into chaos. Unfortunately this had its time in the past, now with the players developed and the meta itself plus bisu not sharp as he was younger i dont see him doing much. I predict Bisu doing cheesy fails making at least 2 protoss comedy games. I dont think he have anything in the bag to surprise a good terran, he need creativity as its with all protoss players nowdays. Still if he manages to somehow win the series il be happy with that for sure. Quite possibly the most retarded thing I've read in a while. No. Jangbi gets into his opponents mind and controls from there with a clear route for the win, he was the player who managed to confuse Flash. Bisu style differs much, he is trying to be everywhere and get his opponent have hard time concentrating on that many things and drag him into chaos. While I agree Jangbi is another great protoss player, he is no where near Bisu in terms of career, consistency, achievement and skill wise. There were times when Jangbi beat Bisu in games but to say Bisu's pvt is not that level is just plain retarded. Unfortunately this had its time in the past, now with the players developed and the meta itself plus bisu not sharp as he was younger i dont see him doing much. Bisu's style still works because nobody can multitask better than him, not even Flash. While Flash is probably the superior sc player overall, when compared with just multitasking, I don't think there is anyone in the world that can best Bisu and this is why he got to semi finals and consistently do well in any tournaments. Meta? Just what meta are you talking about? Sure Bisu's old fast expo has been out grown but he has also gotten better and has proven that he can adapt to the current SC games. Bisu being not as shart in his prime is just same with everybody else and this is mainly due to lack of Pro-league where they had a sponsored teams practising 8~10 hours of solid sc games daily. I also don't think Bisu will win against Flash but your comment was so retarded and had 0 substance to back up any of your claims that I had to log in to this historic account and post a comment. You are Jealous and logged from different account? That basically the same post written with different words. I see you/Jealous dont understand what im talking about, well and it doesnt need to. If u dont know how meta changed and that many protoss builds dont work anymore, then its just you being ignorant. While i compare styles of play against Flash and PvT in general with some details that you are not aware of, as my personal opinion you jump to tell me how good Bisu is. Thanks for telling me that Bisu is more consistent and achieved than Jangbi is there anyone who dont know that? There is a substance you might not be aware of. One player best matchup is PvZ the other is PvT, Jangbi is considered as the best PvT-er. He won not only against Flash, but also against the Terran who destroyed Flash 3-0. Fantasy lost 1-3 to Jangbi in the grand finals after 3-0ing Flash, Fantasy had perfect record(no losses) before grand finals. Jangbi is the only Protoss who won two OSL's in a row, it was both pvt finals. We will never know if he was going to achieve more because of sc2 switch. Recently Bisu is in top shape so is Flash and we can have better future matches so i want Bisu to win, but my head tell me its highly unlikely. Now get your substance together and try to understand what you are arguing about before start to call people with names, because doing that can make you look bad.
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You: Talking about JangBi playing 5 years ago. Also said that Bisu has no chance, and will only do "cheesy fails" and "2 protoss comedy games."
Me: Talking about Bisu who played Flash 3-4 in sponmatches, this month.
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You: Talking some drivel about PvT builds with 0 explanation, VODs, or references. Mention "meta" but still have yet to explain a single thing about what you meant by "meta" and why it is going badly for Protoss and what exactly has changed.
Me: Wtf?
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You: Bisu is not very sharp right now.
Also you: Recently Bisu is in top shape.
Me: Wtf?
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Other poster shows up, misUZu: Wtf?
You: Same drivel as before.
Me: Wtf?
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On October 31 2017 10:49 mIsUZu wrote:
While I agree Jangbi is another great protoss player, he is no where near Bisu in terms of career, consistency, achievement and skill wise. There were times when Jangbi beat Bisu in games but to say Bisu's pvt is not that level is just plain retarded.
Not arguing in favor of the other guy, but I don't think you're being fair to JangBi, the God of Thunder. He's got 2 OSL titles at the peak of Brood War's skill. Dude is freaking awesome.
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Here is the sense I got from Bisu when he plays PvT against Flash. He plays super carefully, does all the "right things" and tries to take it to a longer macro game, hoping that he can win with a soft counter to the eventual Terran push. Then when Flash proceeds to obliterate all his goons and cut off his expansions causing Bisu to tap out with a "gg", we all figuratively pat him on the back telling him that he's done well and that his PvT is great, but Flash is just God and no one defeats God.
With Jangbi, I see that he puts everything into a seemingly coin-flippy mid-game timing attack, whether it's dark templar cheese, zealot-drop goon all-in, or a reaver-focused build (a unit which he's masterful at controlling). If he's on a map with poor mobility for the Terran, he goes carriers and kites the shit out of the mech army.
Maybe I'm reading too much into past OSL/Proleague performances, but if Bisu hasn't learned to do a more aggressive PvT style and figured out how carriers and reavers work, I'm not confident in his chances of winning this match.
Do you get the same sense?
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So today is the finals. Who is ready?! Hehehe
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On October 31 2017 13:29 Lazare1969 wrote:Here is the sense I got from Bisu when he plays PvT against Flash. He plays super carefully, does all the "right things" and tries to take it to a longer macro game, hoping that he can win with a soft counter to the eventual Terran push. Then when Flash proceeds to obliterate all his goons and cut off his expansions causing Bisu to tap out with a "gg", we all figuratively pat him on the back telling him that he's done well and that his PvT is great, but Flash is just God and no one defeats God. With Jangbi, I see that he puts everything into a seemingly coin-flippy mid-game timing attack, whether it's dark templar cheese, zealot-drop goon all-in, or a reaver-focused build (a unit which he's masterful at controlling). If he's on a map with poor mobility for the Terran, he goes carriers and kites the shit out of the mech army. Maybe I'm reading too much into past OSL/Proleague performances, but if Bisu hasn't learned to do a more aggressive PvT style and figured out how carriers and reavers work, I'm not confident in his chances of winning this match. Do you get the same sense?
Hush it, Bisu will win this
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On October 31 2017 15:15 Golgotha wrote:I'm at the studio. It's already packed. I arrived 5 hours early. We are all in this together. Hype! https://imgur.com/gallery/t1jV5
You lucky muthafucka
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On October 31 2017 15:15 Golgotha wrote:I'm at the studio. It's already packed. I arrived 5 hours early. We are all in this together. Hype! https://imgur.com/gallery/t1jV5
Wow really, I guess I'm just gonna go for the finals. Haven't even finished working yet.
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On October 31 2017 01:07 BLinD-RawR wrote:Show nested quote +On October 31 2017 01:03 Shady Sands wrote:
I see dead... templar marinating in salty fanboy tears as Flash advances. oh hey, been a while huh ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/btbej.jpg)
NEEDS MORE BUCKETS THERES GONNA BE A LOT OF TEARS TONIGHT!
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On October 31 2017 15:21 Jealous wrote:You lucky muthafucka
Lol, don't be jealous. No for real though I feel unworthy to be here since many of you guys are truer fans, but I'm excited since this is my first ever gaming event!
I will tell Bisu and flash that Jealous said hi =)
Over 200 names on the sign up sheet when I signed. Long live bw. Gonna go practice my PvT before the games begin.
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On October 31 2017 15:23 Essbee wrote:Wow really, I guess I'm just gonna go for the finals. Haven't even finished working yet.
But this is the finals. Kappa
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Wow, I'm soooo hyped for this!! Hoping for 3-2, either way.
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On October 31 2017 15:30 Golgotha wrote:Show nested quote +On October 31 2017 15:23 Essbee wrote:On October 31 2017 15:15 Golgotha wrote:I'm at the studio. It's already packed. I arrived 5 hours early. We are all in this together. Hype! https://imgur.com/gallery/t1jV5 Wow really, I guess I'm just gonna go for the finals. Haven't even finished working yet. But this is the finals. Kappa
I know, but the studio is way too small, so there's no way I'll be able to get in at like 6 or something. :/
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On October 31 2017 15:29 Golgotha wrote:Lol, don't be jealous. No for real though I feel unworthy to be here since many of you guys are truer fans, but I'm excited since this is my first ever gaming event! I will tell Bisu and flash that Jealous said hi =) Over 200 names on the sign up sheet when I signed. Long live bw. Gonna go practice my PvT before the games begin.
make a sign for us! :D
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On October 31 2017 15:46 FlaShFTW wrote:Show nested quote +On October 31 2017 15:29 Golgotha wrote:On October 31 2017 15:21 Jealous wrote:On October 31 2017 15:15 Golgotha wrote:I'm at the studio. It's already packed. I arrived 5 hours early. We are all in this together. Hype! https://imgur.com/gallery/t1jV5 You lucky muthafucka Lol, don't be jealous. No for real though I feel unworthy to be here since many of you guys are truer fans, but I'm excited since this is my first ever gaming event! I will tell Bisu and flash that Jealous said hi =) Over 200 names on the sign up sheet when I signed. Long live bw. Gonna go practice my PvT before the games begin. make a sign for us! :D
exactly. Make sure it says "Bigfan is the Best. <3 Bisu" 
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On October 31 2017 15:47 BigFan wrote:Show nested quote +On October 31 2017 15:46 FlaShFTW wrote:On October 31 2017 15:29 Golgotha wrote:On October 31 2017 15:21 Jealous wrote:On October 31 2017 15:15 Golgotha wrote:I'm at the studio. It's already packed. I arrived 5 hours early. We are all in this together. Hype! https://imgur.com/gallery/t1jV5 You lucky muthafucka Lol, don't be jealous. No for real though I feel unworthy to be here since many of you guys are truer fans, but I'm excited since this is my first ever gaming event! I will tell Bisu and flash that Jealous said hi =) Over 200 names on the sign up sheet when I signed. Long live bw. Gonna go practice my PvT before the games begin. make a sign for us! :D exactly. Make sure it says "Hi Bigfan"
make sure it says "bigfan is a dodger"
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On October 31 2017 15:47 FlaShFTW wrote:Show nested quote +On October 31 2017 15:47 BigFan wrote:On October 31 2017 15:46 FlaShFTW wrote:On October 31 2017 15:29 Golgotha wrote:On October 31 2017 15:21 Jealous wrote:On October 31 2017 15:15 Golgotha wrote:I'm at the studio. It's already packed. I arrived 5 hours early. We are all in this together. Hype! https://imgur.com/gallery/t1jV5 You lucky muthafucka Lol, don't be jealous. No for real though I feel unworthy to be here since many of you guys are truer fans, but I'm excited since this is my first ever gaming event! I will tell Bisu and flash that Jealous said hi =) Over 200 names on the sign up sheet when I signed. Long live bw. Gonna go practice my PvT before the games begin. make a sign for us! :D exactly. Make sure it says "Hi Bigfan" make sure it says "bigfan is a dodger"
haha !
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On October 31 2017 15:47 BigFan wrote:Show nested quote +On October 31 2017 15:46 FlaShFTW wrote:On October 31 2017 15:29 Golgotha wrote:On October 31 2017 15:21 Jealous wrote:On October 31 2017 15:15 Golgotha wrote:I'm at the studio. It's already packed. I arrived 5 hours early. We are all in this together. Hype! https://imgur.com/gallery/t1jV5 You lucky muthafucka Lol, don't be jealous. No for real though I feel unworthy to be here since many of you guys are truer fans, but I'm excited since this is my first ever gaming event! I will tell Bisu and flash that Jealous said hi =) Over 200 names on the sign up sheet when I signed. Long live bw. Gonna go practice my PvT before the games begin. make a sign for us! :D exactly. Make sure it says "Bigfan is the Best. <3 Bisu"
make sure it says "tscmo asl 5 champ"
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