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Twinkle Toes
Profile Joined May 2012
United States3605 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-10-31 01:48:30
October 31 2017 01:48 GMT
#61
Flash <Gladiator> Bisu
Flash <Fighting Spirit> Bisu
Flash <Crossing Field> Bisu
Flash <Gold Rush> Bisu
Flash <Gladiator> Bisu
Bisu - INnoVation - Dark - Rogue - Stats
mIsUZu
Profile Joined August 2008
New Zealand528 Posts
October 31 2017 01:49 GMT
#62
On October 31 2017 08:37 _Animus_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2017 08:32 Lazare1969 wrote:
Here are Jangbi's games where he managed to beat Flash 2:1 in a Bo3

Jin Air OSL Flash vs JangBi 2011-08-26 @ Pathfinder
Jin Air OSL Flash vs JangBi 2011-08-26 @ Gladiator

I wonder if Bisu's PvT will be anywhere near that level.

No. Jangbi gets into his opponents mind and controls from there with a clear route for the win, he was the player who managed to confuse Flash. Bisu style differs much, he is trying to be everywhere and get his opponent have hard time concentrating on that many things and drag him into chaos. Unfortunately this had its time in the past, now with the players developed and the meta itself plus bisu not sharp as he was younger i dont see him doing much.

I predict Bisu doing cheesy fails making at least 2 protoss comedy games.
I dont think he have anything in the bag to surprise a good terran, he need creativity as its with all protoss players nowdays.

Still if he manages to somehow win the series il be happy with that for sure.


Quite possibly the most retarded thing I've read in a while.

No. Jangbi gets into his opponents mind and controls from there with a clear route for the win, he was the player who managed to confuse Flash. Bisu style differs much, he is trying to be everywhere and get his opponent have hard time concentrating on that many things and drag him into chaos.


While I agree Jangbi is another great protoss player, he is no where near Bisu in terms of career, consistency, achievement and skill wise. There were times when Jangbi beat Bisu in games but to say Bisu's pvt is not that level is just plain retarded.

Unfortunately this had its time in the past, now with the players developed and the meta itself plus bisu not sharp as he was younger i dont see him doing much.


Bisu's style still works because nobody can multitask better than him, not even Flash. While Flash is probably the superior sc player overall, when compared with just multitasking, I don't think there is anyone in the world that can best Bisu and this is why he got to semi finals and consistently do well in any tournaments.

Meta? Just what meta are you talking about? Sure Bisu's old fast expo has been out grown but he has also gotten better and has proven that he can adapt to the current SC games. Bisu being not as shart in his prime is just same with everybody else and this is mainly due to lack of Pro-league where they had a sponsored teams practising 8~10 hours of solid sc games daily.

I also don't think Bisu will win against Flash but your comment was so retarded and had 0 substance to back up any of your claims that I had to log in to this historic account and post a comment.

Why So Serious?!
Essbee
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Canada2371 Posts
October 31 2017 01:49 GMT
#63
I wish bisu had gold rush twice, but I guess flash banned it? I feel like gold rush is super good for PvT.
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES49904 Posts
October 31 2017 01:51 GMT
#64
4 pages of hype, I'm glad I put this out early
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
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Essbee
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Canada2371 Posts
October 31 2017 01:52 GMT
#65
On October 31 2017 10:51 BLinD-RawR wrote:
4 pages of hype, I'm glad I put this out early

gj
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10107 Posts
October 31 2017 01:56 GMT
#66
On October 31 2017 10:47 Twinkle Toes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2017 10:29 hyfrehyfre wrote:
wait a second, tau cross is the first map?

Fucking Tau Cross is ancient, wtflol

Tau Cross was being used well into the FS era, if memory serves correct, and has produced some fantastic games (WCG Flash vs. Jaedong comes to mind). It's not that outdated by current standards, I think. I do agree with their decision to not use it past the online qualifiers, however.
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
usopsama
Profile Joined April 2008
6502 Posts
October 31 2017 01:56 GMT
#67
Poll: Which ASL moment did you profit the most from harvesting tears?

Shine destroying Bisu (3-1) in ASL3. (16)
 
50%

God smiting Bisu in ASL4. (12)
 
38%

Sea destroying Bisu (3-0) in ASL2. (4)
 
13%

32 total votes

Your vote: Which ASL moment did you profit the most from harvesting tears?

(Vote): Sea destroying Bisu (3-0) in ASL2.
(Vote): Shine destroying Bisu (3-1) in ASL3.
(Vote): God smiting Bisu in ASL4.

Twinkle Toes
Profile Joined May 2012
United States3605 Posts
October 31 2017 02:04 GMT
#68
On October 31 2017 10:51 BLinD-RawR wrote:
4 pages of hype, I'm glad I put this out early

Lol. This is very sad though, I remember lr hypes used to reach 30 pages nonsense games, while playoffs and major events reach 100 at least
Bisu - INnoVation - Dark - Rogue - Stats
Twinkle Toes
Profile Joined May 2012
United States3605 Posts
October 31 2017 02:06 GMT
#69
On October 31 2017 10:56 usopsama wrote:
Poll: Which ASL moment did you profit the most from harvesting tears?

Shine destroying Bisu (3-1) in ASL3. (16)
 
50%

God smiting Bisu in ASL4. (12)
 
38%

Sea destroying Bisu (3-0) in ASL2. (4)
 
13%

32 total votes

Your vote: Which ASL moment did you profit the most from harvesting tears?

(Vote): Sea destroying Bisu (3-0) in ASL2.
(Vote): Shine destroying Bisu (3-1) in ASL3.
(Vote): God smiting Bisu in ASL4.


Awesome poll! HAHAHA
Bisu - INnoVation - Dark - Rogue - Stats
Alpha-NP-
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States1242 Posts
October 31 2017 02:06 GMT
#70
On October 31 2017 10:46 Twinkle Toes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2017 01:10 Qikz wrote:
Bisu going to breeze through Flash like he is nothing.

SKT BEST KT YO!

This is the most modest, rational, and unbiased comment on this thread.
I have no choice but to agree with it.

Alright boys we will have them licked by next week. Later it turns into a 5 year American Civil War with 1 million dead.

It might turn into a 3:2 super long mined out series. As good as these players are.
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-10-31 02:09:59
October 31 2017 02:09 GMT
#71
On October 31 2017 10:56 usopsama wrote:
Poll: Which ASL moment did you profit the most from harvesting tears?

Shine destroying Bisu (3-1) in ASL3. (16)
 
50%

God smiting Bisu in ASL4. (12)
 
38%

Sea destroying Bisu (3-0) in ASL2. (4)
 
13%

32 total votes

Your vote: Which ASL moment did you profit the most from harvesting tears?

(Vote): Sea destroying Bisu (3-0) in ASL2.
(Vote): Shine destroying Bisu (3-1) in ASL3.
(Vote): God smiting Bisu in ASL4.


will you disappear again when Bisu beats Flash, much like Larva beat Rain?
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
usopsama
Profile Joined April 2008
6502 Posts
October 31 2017 02:10 GMT
#72
On October 31 2017 11:09 BigFan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2017 10:56 usopsama wrote:
Poll: Which ASL moment did you profit the most from harvesting tears?

Shine destroying Bisu (3-1) in ASL3. (16)
 
50%

God smiting Bisu in ASL4. (12)
 
38%

Sea destroying Bisu (3-0) in ASL2. (4)
 
13%

32 total votes

Your vote: Which ASL moment did you profit the most from harvesting tears?

(Vote): Sea destroying Bisu (3-0) in ASL2.
(Vote): Shine destroying Bisu (3-1) in ASL3.
(Vote): God smiting Bisu in ASL4.


will you disappear again when Bisu beats Flash, much like Larva beat Rain?

BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
October 31 2017 02:15 GMT
#73
On October 31 2017 11:10 usopsama wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2017 11:09 BigFan wrote:
On October 31 2017 10:56 usopsama wrote:
Poll: Which ASL moment did you profit the most from harvesting tears?

Shine destroying Bisu (3-1) in ASL3. (16)
 
50%

God smiting Bisu in ASL4. (12)
 
38%

Sea destroying Bisu (3-0) in ASL2. (4)
 
13%

32 total votes

Your vote: Which ASL moment did you profit the most from harvesting tears?

(Vote): Sea destroying Bisu (3-0) in ASL2.
(Vote): Shine destroying Bisu (3-1) in ASL3.
(Vote): God smiting Bisu in ASL4.


will you disappear again when Bisu beats Flash, much like Larva beat Rain?


^^ Sea got lucky that Bisu choked and Shine has always been his mortal enemy who beat him when Bisu really wanted to advance in the past. Also, Bisu was sick one of those series, don't remember so he underperformed. So long as he's feeling well, I think the series will be close.
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
reincremate
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
China2213 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-10-31 02:42:26
October 31 2017 02:36 GMT
#74
Flash is too good right now. Bisu gonna get rekt. History will be made tonight!
NoS-Craig
Profile Joined July 2011
Australia3093 Posts
October 31 2017 03:07 GMT
#75
Cheering for Flash here. Hoping the god himself smites all before him.
Artosis loves Starcraft
_Animus_
Profile Joined February 2011
Bulgaria1064 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-10-31 04:08:55
October 31 2017 03:31 GMT
#76
On October 31 2017 10:49 mIsUZu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2017 08:37 _Animus_ wrote:
On October 31 2017 08:32 Lazare1969 wrote:
Here are Jangbi's games where he managed to beat Flash 2:1 in a Bo3

Jin Air OSL Flash vs JangBi 2011-08-26 @ Pathfinder
Jin Air OSL Flash vs JangBi 2011-08-26 @ Gladiator

I wonder if Bisu's PvT will be anywhere near that level.

No. Jangbi gets into his opponents mind and controls from there with a clear route for the win, he was the player who managed to confuse Flash. Bisu style differs much, he is trying to be everywhere and get his opponent have hard time concentrating on that many things and drag him into chaos. Unfortunately this had its time in the past, now with the players developed and the meta itself plus bisu not sharp as he was younger i dont see him doing much.

I predict Bisu doing cheesy fails making at least 2 protoss comedy games.
I dont think he have anything in the bag to surprise a good terran, he need creativity as its with all protoss players nowdays.

Still if he manages to somehow win the series il be happy with that for sure.


Quite possibly the most retarded thing I've read in a while.

Show nested quote +
No. Jangbi gets into his opponents mind and controls from there with a clear route for the win, he was the player who managed to confuse Flash. Bisu style differs much, he is trying to be everywhere and get his opponent have hard time concentrating on that many things and drag him into chaos.


While I agree Jangbi is another great protoss player, he is no where near Bisu in terms of career, consistency, achievement and skill wise. There were times when Jangbi beat Bisu in games but to say Bisu's pvt is not that level is just plain retarded.

Show nested quote +
Unfortunately this had its time in the past, now with the players developed and the meta itself plus bisu not sharp as he was younger i dont see him doing much.


Bisu's style still works because nobody can multitask better than him, not even Flash. While Flash is probably the superior sc player overall, when compared with just multitasking, I don't think there is anyone in the world that can best Bisu and this is why he got to semi finals and consistently do well in any tournaments.

Meta? Just what meta are you talking about? Sure Bisu's old fast expo has been out grown but he has also gotten better and has proven that he can adapt to the current SC games. Bisu being not as shart in his prime is just same with everybody else and this is mainly due to lack of Pro-league where they had a sponsored teams practising 8~10 hours of solid sc games daily.

I also don't think Bisu will win against Flash but your comment was so retarded and had 0 substance to back up any of your claims that I had to log in to this historic account and post a comment.


You are Jealous and logged from different account? That basically the same post written with different words.
I see you/Jealous dont understand what im talking about, well and it doesnt need to. If u dont know how meta changed and that many protoss builds dont work anymore, then its just you being ignorant. While i compare styles of play against Flash and PvT in general with some details that you are not aware of, as my personal opinion you jump to tell me how good Bisu is. Thanks for telling me that Bisu is more consistent and achieved than Jangbi is there anyone who dont know that? There is a substance you might not be aware of. One player best matchup is PvZ the other is PvT, Jangbi is considered as the best PvT-er. He won not only against Flash, but also against the Terran who destroyed Flash 3-0. Fantasy lost 1-3 to Jangbi in the grand finals after 3-0ing Flash, Fantasy had perfect record(no losses) before grand finals. Jangbi is the only Protoss who won two OSL's in a row, it was both pvt finals. We will never know if he was going to achieve more because of sc2 switch.
Recently Bisu is in top shape so is Flash. I want Bisu to win, for a better future matches and i want to see Flash domination put pause, however my head tells me its highly unlikely.
Now get your substance together and try to understand what you are arguing about before start to call people with names, because doing that can make you look bad.
Luv ya BroodWar!
dbssaber
Profile Joined September 2013
United States193 Posts
October 31 2017 03:58 GMT
#77
"TvP and Bisu are the only reasons Protoss is playable." --Mind

KIM TAEK YONG HWAITING

( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) STYLE START SBENU ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
reincremate
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
China2213 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-10-31 04:15:05
October 31 2017 04:02 GMT
#78

The last time Flash and Bisu played a broadcasted bo5

edit: *last time they faced off in an offline tournament. Forgot that streaming is also broadcasting by definition.
rackdude
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States882 Posts
October 31 2017 04:02 GMT
#79
Flash has a history of throwing Bisu off with cheeses. I think that if Bisu doesn't get tilted he'll do fine, can even 3-1.
Sweet.
_Animus_
Profile Joined February 2011
Bulgaria1064 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-10-31 04:12:49
October 31 2017 04:10 GMT
#80
On October 31 2017 12:58 dbssaber wrote:
"TvP and Bisu are the only reasons Protoss is playable." --Mind

KIM TAEK YONG HWAITING


I dont want to anti-hype you but what mind said at the intervew before he played against Flash was:
"whoever wins this wins the whole thing"
On October 31 2017 13:02 rackdude wrote:
Flash has a history of throwing Bisu off with cheeses. I think that if Bisu doesn't get tilted he'll do fine, can even 3-1.

That makes things interesting.
Luv ya BroodWar!
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