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Tournament done! The recording is up on youtube and can be viewed > here! < < update!
This Saturday the Star 1 Beginner Club is hosting another Beginner Tournament!
Time and Date: September 9, 2017 19:00 UTC
Anyone under 1400 MMR on all accounts with at least 20 ladder games played on a single account can enter (post your battle net ID on discord when signing up).
You only need to meet the requirements at the time you sign up. You can go past 1400 MMR once you're signed up.
Prizes: 30$ for 1st place, 15$ for 2nd place, 10$ for 3rd. (paid via paypal the same day)
Commentators: Greth and TL.FlaShFTW
Stream: http://twitch.tv/themeathon (streamed in super high quality at 60 fps by elite streamer Jugachi)
How to enter:
1. join the beginner club discord (discord.gg/bdBT3VS)
2. have less than 1400 MMR and minimum of 20 ladder games played
3. post in the #tournament_signup channel with "!mainrace signup b.netID"
Additional info:
Format: Single elimination. Best of 3 until top four (from here on out: bo5).
Server: This tournament will be played on US EAST, latest game version (if both players agree, games can be played on a different server).
Custom Hotkeys: enabled.
Brackets: challonge.com (final player seeding TBD on the day of the tournament)
Rules:
Map pool: (Circuit Breaker, La Mancha, Tau Cross, Gold Rush, New Bloodbath 1.37) download
Map picks: starting map is Circuit Breaker, looser always picks the next map.
(no map can be played twice within a series)
Race picking: declare race on signup. Must use the declared race throughout the tournament (random is not an option).
If your opponent is more than 5 minutes late once your match becomes available -> ask @staff to give you a freewin on discord.
Disconnects: If the game was hosted on the correct map and you leave early or disconnect for any reason > You are at the mercy of your opponent. He can give you a regame or take the freewin.
(games played on wrong maps are not valid, make sure to host maps from the official map pool .zip)
Glitches & exploits:
Flying Drones and Flying Templar: not legal
Terran Sliding Buildings: not legal
Allied Mines: not legal
(If you don't know how to cause these exploits: don't worry about it - they aren't likely to happen by accident)
Violating any Rules results in DQ .
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Cool, I will share with anyone I know who is below 1400, although I am not sure I know many people, awesome initiative! gl hf guys
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United States10158 Posts
Will cast if needed. Also wait wtf why is bloodbath a map...
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LOL I didn't notice Blood Bath was a map, that is epic. Best map ever made.
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United Kingdom12022 Posts
Cool initiative man! It's running at the same time as HAY, but there's a lot of people who likely wouldn't sign up to HAY and will sign up to this :>
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update: +$15 added to the prizepool.
On August 28 2017 18:05 Qikz wrote:
Cool initiative man! It's running at the same time as HAY, but there's a lot of people who likely wouldn't sign up to HAY and will sign up to this :>
Will avoid running future tournaments on the same weekend as Have At You!
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On August 28 2017 23:35 vaL4r wrote:update: +$15 added to the prizepool. Show nested quote +On August 28 2017 18:05 Qikz wrote:
Cool initiative man! It's running at the same time as HAY, but there's a lot of people who likely wouldn't sign up to HAY and will sign up to this :> Will avoid running future tournaments on the same weekend as Have At You!
I don't think that's important for this tournament. It's a nitch market, nobody from HAY will play in this and vice versa. Good luck!
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United Kingdom12022 Posts
On August 28 2017 23:35 vaL4r wrote:update: +$15 added to the prizepool. Show nested quote +On August 28 2017 18:05 Qikz wrote:
Cool initiative man! It's running at the same time as HAY, but there's a lot of people who likely wouldn't sign up to HAY and will sign up to this :> Will avoid running future tournaments on the same weekend as Have At You!
It's good that it's the same time! There's probably lots of people not wanting to join tournaments like that and this is something for them!
Besides, there's so many tournaments now that it's near impossible to not clash.
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damn bloodbath lolz, gonna be brutal. GL!
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Bearded Elder29903 Posts
It has to be less than 1400 MMR?
What if someone has 1700 MMR but with 7-3 stats? That's only 10 games played, can I sign in or not really?
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On August 29 2017 17:48 739 wrote:
It has to be less than 1400 MMR?
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to enter at least one of the accounts linked to the b.net ID you signed up with must have 20 or more ladder games played and all of them have to be below 1400 MMR when you sign up.
an exception can be made if say: your main account is 40W/35L and 1300MMR and you have another account with 1500MMR but it only has 4 games on it 2W/2L. In that case I would let you enter.
On August 29 2017 17:48 739 wrote:
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What if someone has 1700 MMR but with 7-3 stats? That's only 10 games played, can I sign in or not really?
In this specific case the answer is: No. The 7-3 account is too highly rated. It also doesn't have enough games on it. Even if it was 9-10 with 1200 MMR - you need at least 20 ladder games played on a single account.
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On August 29 2017 18:10 vaL4r wrote:to enter at least one of the accounts linked to the b.net ID you signed up with must have 20 or more ladder games played and all of them have to be below 1400 MMR when you sign up. an exception can be made if say: your main account is 40W/35L and 1300MMR and you have another account with 1500MMR but it only has 4 games on it 2W/2L. In that case I would let you enter. Show nested quote +On August 29 2017 17:48 739 wrote:
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What if someone has 1700 MMR but with 7-3 stats? That's only 10 games played, can I sign in or not really? In this specific case the answer is: No. The 7-3 account is too highly rated. It also doesn't have enough games on it. Even if it was 9-10 with 1200 MMR - you need at least 20 ladder games played on a single account.
I think if someone has a record of 40-35 with 85+ games played total, I wouldn't consider them a "Beginner" no longer.
on a more serious note, sounds like fun tho! hope someone will be able to stream the bloodbath matches.
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Bearded Elder29903 Posts
On August 29 2017 18:10 vaL4r wrote:to enter at least one of the accounts linked to the b.net ID you signed up with must have 20 or more ladder games played and all of them have to be below 1400 MMR when you sign up. an exception can be made if say: your main account is 40W/35L and 1300MMR and you have another account with 1500MMR but it only has 4 games on it 2W/2L. In that case I would let you enter. Show nested quote +On August 29 2017 17:48 739 wrote:
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What if someone has 1700 MMR but with 7-3 stats? That's only 10 games played, can I sign in or not really? In this specific case the answer is: No. The 7-3 account is too highly rated. It also doesn't have enough games on it. Even if it was 9-10 with 1200 MMR - you need at least 20 ladder games played on a single account.
That's why I've asked. I wanted to avoid a situation of me playing 10 more ladder games and dropping to 1200-1300MMR on purpose 
GL HF with your tourney !
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Udate: change date!
tournament pushed back one week to september 9, 2017
it seems there is a lot going on this weekend and only 1 person signed up.
However: it is certainly happening next week, if there is still only 1 entrant in a week -> free prize money for top 3!
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On August 29 2017 18:29 oDieN[Siege] wrote:Show nested quote +On August 29 2017 18:10 vaL4r wrote:On August 29 2017 17:48 739 wrote:
It has to be less than 1400 MMR?
(..)
to enter at least one of the accounts linked to the b.net ID you signed up with must have 20 or more ladder games played and all of them have to be below 1400 MMR when you sign up. an exception can be made if say: your main account is 40W/35L and 1300MMR and you have another account with 1500MMR but it only has 4 games on it 2W/2L. In that case I would let you enter. On August 29 2017 17:48 739 wrote:
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What if someone has 1700 MMR but with 7-3 stats? That's only 10 games played, can I sign in or not really? In this specific case the answer is: No. The 7-3 account is too highly rated. It also doesn't have enough games on it. Even if it was 9-10 with 1200 MMR - you need at least 20 ladder games played on a single account. I think if someone has a record of 40-35 with 85+ games played total, I wouldn't consider them a "Beginner" no longer. on a more serious note, sounds like fun tho! hope someone will be able to stream the bloodbath matches.
All of the players that have signed up for valar's tournaments in the past have played hundreds of games of BW, from what I know, so this is not really applicable logic.
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On August 30 2017 13:23 Jealous wrote:Show nested quote +On August 29 2017 18:29 oDieN[Siege] wrote:On August 29 2017 18:10 vaL4r wrote:On August 29 2017 17:48 739 wrote:
It has to be less than 1400 MMR?
(..)
to enter at least one of the accounts linked to the b.net ID you signed up with must have 20 or more ladder games played and all of them have to be below 1400 MMR when you sign up. an exception can be made if say: your main account is 40W/35L and 1300MMR and you have another account with 1500MMR but it only has 4 games on it 2W/2L. In that case I would let you enter. On August 29 2017 17:48 739 wrote:
(..)
What if someone has 1700 MMR but with 7-3 stats? That's only 10 games played, can I sign in or not really? In this specific case the answer is: No. The 7-3 account is too highly rated. It also doesn't have enough games on it. Even if it was 9-10 with 1200 MMR - you need at least 20 ladder games played on a single account. I think if someone has a record of 40-35 with 85+ games played total, I wouldn't consider them a "Beginner" no longer. on a more serious note, sounds like fun tho! hope someone will be able to stream the bloodbath matches. All of the players that have signed up for valar's tournaments in the past have played hundreds of games of BW, from what I know, so this is not really applicable logic.
What's not to get? Read what and who I was responding to. Simply saying that if someone had a record of 40W/35L ( as stated above) but has naother account with 1500MR but with a record of 2W/2L, they would still be able to enter? I wouldn't consider them a beginner anymore. I can just see people smurfing into this 
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On August 31 2017 04:35 oDieN[Siege] wrote:Show nested quote +On August 30 2017 13:23 Jealous wrote:On August 29 2017 18:29 oDieN[Siege] wrote:On August 29 2017 18:10 vaL4r wrote:On August 29 2017 17:48 739 wrote:
It has to be less than 1400 MMR?
(..)
to enter at least one of the accounts linked to the b.net ID you signed up with must have 20 or more ladder games played and all of them have to be below 1400 MMR when you sign up. an exception can be made if say: your main account is 40W/35L and 1300MMR and you have another account with 1500MMR but it only has 4 games on it 2W/2L. In that case I would let you enter. On August 29 2017 17:48 739 wrote:
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What if someone has 1700 MMR but with 7-3 stats? That's only 10 games played, can I sign in or not really? In this specific case the answer is: No. The 7-3 account is too highly rated. It also doesn't have enough games on it. Even if it was 9-10 with 1200 MMR - you need at least 20 ladder games played on a single account. I think if someone has a record of 40-35 with 85+ games played total, I wouldn't consider them a "Beginner" no longer. on a more serious note, sounds like fun tho! hope someone will be able to stream the bloodbath matches. All of the players that have signed up for valar's tournaments in the past have played hundreds of games of BW, from what I know, so this is not really applicable logic. What's not to get? Read what and who I was responding to. Simply saying that if someone had a record of 40W/35L ( as stated above) but has naother account with 1500MR but with a record of 2W/2L, they would still be able to enter? I wouldn't consider them a beginner anymore. I can just see people smurfing into this
You changed the premise of your argument, the one I was responding to. This is called a strawman.
People smurf. It happens. They get booted. Nothing new. If someone goes through the trouble of making a 20 game sub 1400 ladder account then lol.
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On August 31 2017 05:01 Jealous wrote:Show nested quote +On August 31 2017 04:35 oDieN[Siege] wrote:On August 30 2017 13:23 Jealous wrote:On August 29 2017 18:29 oDieN[Siege] wrote:On August 29 2017 18:10 vaL4r wrote:On August 29 2017 17:48 739 wrote:
It has to be less than 1400 MMR?
(..)
to enter at least one of the accounts linked to the b.net ID you signed up with must have 20 or more ladder games played and all of them have to be below 1400 MMR when you sign up. an exception can be made if say: your main account is 40W/35L and 1300MMR and you have another account with 1500MMR but it only has 4 games on it 2W/2L. In that case I would let you enter. On August 29 2017 17:48 739 wrote:
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What if someone has 1700 MMR but with 7-3 stats? That's only 10 games played, can I sign in or not really? In this specific case the answer is: No. The 7-3 account is too highly rated. It also doesn't have enough games on it. Even if it was 9-10 with 1200 MMR - you need at least 20 ladder games played on a single account. I think if someone has a record of 40-35 with 85+ games played total, I wouldn't consider them a "Beginner" no longer. on a more serious note, sounds like fun tho! hope someone will be able to stream the bloodbath matches. All of the players that have signed up for valar's tournaments in the past have played hundreds of games of BW, from what I know, so this is not really applicable logic. What's not to get? Read what and who I was responding to. Simply saying that if someone had a record of 40W/35L ( as stated above) but has naother account with 1500MR but with a record of 2W/2L, they would still be able to enter? I wouldn't consider them a beginner anymore. I can just see people smurfing into this You changed the premise of your argument, the one I was responding to. This is called a strawman. People smurf. It happens. They get booted. Nothing new. If someone goes through the trouble of making a 20 game sub 1400 ladder account then lol.
lol, when all else fails.. use the strawman card.
OP goodluck with the tournament! would be cool to see someone cast this just for the funs.
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nice idea for a tournament, i will tell my "students" to play some ranked games so they qualify ^^
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I always think it's a bit risky having a newbie tournament with a prize pool but gl.
Having it be a weekly thing and getting pts for placing every week and having a payout at the end of a "season" or something might be good? But anyway, it's your or whoever's money, and definitely support the idea of a tournament for newer/lower level players.
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There should be APM limit, all the rest is questionable. For beginner i think no more than 90-100 apm. Probably even lower if u really want to make an event for beginner.
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On September 01 2017 18:14 Xeln4g4 wrote:
There should be APM limit, all the rest is questionable. For beginner i think no more than 90-100 apm. Probably even lower if u really want to make an event for beginner.
I've seen absolutely horrible players with 300 apm so I don't agree that this would be a good metric.
You could play with 40 apm and be well above 1400 mmr.
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Udate: The tournament will be observed and streamed in super high quality at 60 fps by elite streamer Jugachi over at: twitch.tv/themeathon
With commentary by Greth and TL.FlaShFTW - vods will uploaded to youtube.com/themeathon.
On August 31 2017 05:23 oDieN[Siege] wrote:
OP goodluck with the tournament! would be cool to see someone cast this just for the funs.
Yes, thank you!
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I guess I'm bad enough to play on this tournament. Lol. Just need to check if I'll be free to play next weekend. If so, I'll join. Thanks a lot for the initiative!
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is there a tournament today or just next week? because TL lists you as upcoming events
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This is really cool!
I will tune in to some Beginner action 
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ohhhhh ! I can play in this ! but I have exams this week , maybe next iteration :D
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On September 03 2017 03:42 [AS]Rattus wrote:
is there a tournament today or just next week? because TL lists you as upcoming events
It's next week! September 9, 2017 19:00 UTC
Apparently someone added it to the event calendar without my knowledge, before the date change - I just noticed and it should be fixed now.
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Udate: map pool change!
Outsider replaced with Gold Rush
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That map is hella pretty and it's gonna be hilarious watching noobs tangle with the Assimilator mechanics. Now I'm hype.
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Now to find if I'm truly the worst player in the world!
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On September 05 2017 23:07 Zrana1 wrote:
Now to find if I'm truly the worst player in the world!
There are entrants with lower mmr than you; ofc mmr isn't everything.
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Busy this weekend but will definitely participate next time!
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United States10158 Posts
Im still not happy with bloodbath in the pool. Beginners are beginners but should play on legitimate maps.
Gold rush will be hilarious. Cant wait to see how they expand. Next time we need monty hall and triathlon in the map pool
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Thinking of entering but my race (random) is banned?
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On September 08 2017 23:24 neocronx wrote:
Thinking of entering but my race (random) is banned?
Yes, picking one race and using it throughout the tournament is required to enter.
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Russian Federation481 Posts
On September 09 2017 06:44 vaL4r wrote:Show nested quote +On September 08 2017 23:24 neocronx wrote:
Thinking of entering but my race (random) is banned? Yes, picking one race and using it throughout the tournament is required to enter.
Why??
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damn, I am a beginner and I love the initiative, but my mmr floats between 1500-1600. If this goes well, is there a chance for a tournament around my skill level?
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On September 09 2017 15:58 Voltz_sc21 wrote:
damn, I am a beginner and I love the initiative, but my mmr floats between 1500-1600. If this goes well, is there a chance for a tournament around my skill level?
Yes the Beginner Club has already hosted 2 small "Intermediate" level tournaments in preparation for this.
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On September 01 2017 22:23 Jonoman92 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 01 2017 18:14 Xeln4g4 wrote:
There should be APM limit, all the rest is questionable. For beginner i think no more than 90-100 apm. Probably even lower if u really want to make an event for beginner. I've seen absolutely horrible players with 300 apm so I don't agree that this would be a good metric. You could play with 40 apm and be well above 1400 mmr.
Exception shouldn't be the rules ... horrible player with 300 apm? C'mon ... nevrotic spammer maybe!
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On September 09 2017 16:20 vaL4r wrote:Show nested quote +On September 09 2017 15:58 Voltz_sc21 wrote:
damn, I am a beginner and I love the initiative, but my mmr floats between 1500-1600. If this goes well, is there a chance for a tournament around my skill level? Yes the Beginner Club has already hosted 2 small "Intermediate" level tournaments in preparation for this.
Im also interested me an Intermediate tournament. Where can I get info?
I started wit BW ~4months ago and reache max 1800points on ladder.
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maybe stream in 720p next time? was unwatchable for me, sadly, since it kept buffering
EDIT: After watching a bit of the archived stream. I can say, that this tournament is amazing.
For future tournaments though, please dont zoom out all the time.
Edit2: And the casters should try to keep a positive attitude for more than one game.
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gogogogo I want to play too
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Tournament done! The recording is up on youtube and can be viewed > here! <
I've also uploaded a replay pack with all available replays here .
Replay pack with a spoilerfree folder structure is also available here .
On September 10 2017 05:02 [AS]Rattus wrote:
maybe stream in 720p next time? was unwatchable for me, sadly, since it kept buffering
EDIT: After watching a bit of the archived stream. I can say, that this tournament is amazing.
For future tournaments though, please dont zoom out all the time.
Edit2: And the casters should try to keep a positive attitude for more than one game.
The twitch channel didn't have the usual quality options because it had not been active - so everyone was forced to watch the super high quality 60 fps stream. It was smooth for people with a good internet connection.
Casting is hard okay.. I think the commentary was super enjoyable!! For future tournaments, I'm thinking there should be more casters and a schedule so no one has to go through the ordeal of talking for 5+ hours straight.
You're right about the zoom levels! It was the first time for our observer and he was just figuring things out
On September 09 2017 19:57 earob wrote:
Im also interested me an Intermediate tournament. Where can I get info?
I will be posting it in the Brood War > Tourneys section of teamliquid.
Alternatively you could come join the Beginner Club discord, any tournaments hosted by us are also announced in an anouncement channel there.
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On September 10 2017 05:02 [AS]Rattus wrote:
Edit2: And the casters should try to keep a positive attitude for more than one game.
We were very positive actually. But you can't carry a cast of a newbie tourney on analysis. You either point out mistakes or you ignore them - if you ignore them, you create a false narrative. If you keep summing up the mistakes then that will be all you are doing for the whole thing.
We casted with a sense of levity and for the most part encouragement. We weren't angry, we weren't putting the players down - the situations they find themselves in were funny and it is important to see it as such.
Learning brood war is all about losing in a thousand ways, because of a thousand harrowing mistakes. To quote from my vidrep thread:
It might sound weird, but it's important to make light of the situation. I think, historically, I've been the only one to show the way BW is played by 99% of the player population. It's important to show what kind of game the 'real people' are playing.
A lot of the C and beyond players are far too serious about this game, there is no relief from the constant drive for competition that only very few people will have.
It's important to find those players and help them satisfy their need to get better, but for all the other players it's first important to learn to be at ease with being bad at having fun with the game.
Being serious and competitive about BW full-time will eventually destroy you. The levity of the casual side is important
If the players themselves can't find the humour, can't find the (god forbid) fun in the process they are going through ... Then chances are they aren't going to stick around for long anyway.
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Hey guys,
I loved the last tournament . Do you expect to do another beginner tournament? I'm stuck into 1200-1300 mmr and i'd like to do another tournament ( no need for money IMO).
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On November 01 2017 13:04 charcute wrote:
Hey guys,
I loved the last tournament . Do you expect to do another beginner tournament? I'm stuck into 1200-1300 mmr and i'd like to do another tournament ( no need for money IMO).
Oh hi, sorry I've not been checking TL.
I want to continue running tournaments but I'm pretty taxed in terms of money, time, and energy at the moment - as I'm in the process of moving. Right now I'm thinking we should be back sometime in december~
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man i wish i could play in this :\
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This is very cool, thank you for being envolved!!
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Watching the VOD, and damn it looks so much fun! Reminds me of LAN party tournaments we had as kids!
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Oh, an idea - island maps for beginner matches are fun as hell too  (small island maps for quicker games though)
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