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vaL4r
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany240 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-09-11 00:51:46
August 28 2017 00:58 GMT
#1
Tournament done! The recording is up on youtube and can be viewed > here! < < update!

This Saturday the Star 1 Beginner Club is hosting another Beginner Tournament!
Time and Date: September 9, 2017 19:00 UTC

[image loading]


Anyone under 1400 MMR on all accounts with at least 20 ladder games played on a single account can enter (post your battle net ID on discord when signing up).

You only need to meet the requirements at the time you sign up. You can go past 1400 MMR once you're signed up.

Prizes: 30$ for 1st place, 15$ for 2nd place, 10$ for 3rd. (paid via paypal the same day)
Commentators: Greth and TL.FlaShFTW
Stream: http://twitch.tv/themeathon (streamed in super high quality at 60 fps by elite streamer Jugachi)

How to enter:
1. join the beginner club discord (discord.gg/bdBT3VS)
2. have less than 1400 MMR and minimum of 20 ladder games played
3. post in the #tournament_signup channel with "!mainrace signup b.netID"


Additional info:

Format: Single elimination. Best of 3 until top four (from here on out: bo5).
Server: This tournament will be played on US EAST, latest game version (if both players agree, games can be played on a different server).
Custom Hotkeys: enabled.
Brackets: challonge.com (final player seeding TBD on the day of the tournament)

Rules:
Map pool: (Circuit Breaker, La Mancha, Tau Cross, Gold Rush, New Bloodbath 1.37) download
Map picks: starting map is Circuit Breaker, looser always picks the next map.
(no map can be played twice within a series)
Race picking: declare race on signup. Must use the declared race throughout the tournament (random is not an option).

If your opponent is more than 5 minutes late once your match becomes available -> ask @staff to give you a freewin on discord.

Disconnects: If the game was hosted on the correct map and you leave early or disconnect for any reason > You are at the mercy of your opponent. He can give you a regame or take the freewin.
(games played on wrong maps are not valid, make sure to host maps from the official map pool .zip)

Glitches & exploits:
Flying Drones and Flying Templar: not legal
Terran Sliding Buildings: not legal
Allied Mines: not legal
(If you don't know how to cause these exploits: don't worry about it - they aren't likely to happen by accident)

Violating any Rules results in DQ .
You need to play starcraft with a light heart. If you play with a heavy heart, you can't win. -NaDa
TelecoM
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States10673 Posts
August 28 2017 01:54 GMT
#2
Cool, I will share with anyone I know who is below 1400, although I am not sure I know many people, awesome initiative! gl hf guys
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FlaShFTW
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States10155 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-08-28 07:06:10
August 28 2017 07:05 GMT
#3
Will cast if needed. Also wait wtf why is bloodbath a map...
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TelecoM
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States10673 Posts
August 28 2017 07:34 GMT
#4
LOL I didn't notice Blood Bath was a map, that is epic. Best map ever made.
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Qikz
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United Kingdom12022 Posts
August 28 2017 09:05 GMT
#5
Cool initiative man! It's running at the same time as HAY, but there's a lot of people who likely wouldn't sign up to HAY and will sign up to this :>
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vaL4r
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany240 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-08-28 14:49:43
August 28 2017 14:35 GMT
#6
update: +$15 added to the prizepool.

On August 28 2017 18:05 Qikz wrote:
Cool initiative man! It's running at the same time as HAY, but there's a lot of people who likely wouldn't sign up to HAY and will sign up to this :>

Will avoid running future tournaments on the same weekend as Have At You!
You need to play starcraft with a light heart. If you play with a heavy heart, you can't win. -NaDa
619
Profile Joined July 2017
United States87 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-08-28 15:26:26
August 28 2017 15:26 GMT
#7
On August 28 2017 23:35 vaL4r wrote:
update: +$15 added to the prizepool.

Show nested quote +
On August 28 2017 18:05 Qikz wrote:
Cool initiative man! It's running at the same time as HAY, but there's a lot of people who likely wouldn't sign up to HAY and will sign up to this :>

Will avoid running future tournaments on the same weekend as Have At You!



I don't think that's important for this tournament. It's a nitch market, nobody from HAY will play in this and vice versa. Good luck!
Qikz
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United Kingdom12022 Posts
August 28 2017 15:34 GMT
#8
On August 28 2017 23:35 vaL4r wrote:
update: +$15 added to the prizepool.

Show nested quote +
On August 28 2017 18:05 Qikz wrote:
Cool initiative man! It's running at the same time as HAY, but there's a lot of people who likely wouldn't sign up to HAY and will sign up to this :>

Will avoid running future tournaments on the same weekend as Have At You!


It's good that it's the same time! There's probably lots of people not wanting to join tournaments like that and this is something for them!

Besides, there's so many tournaments now that it's near impossible to not clash.
FanTaSy's #1 Fan | STPL Caster/Organiser | SKT BEST KT | https://twitch.tv/stpl
EleanorRIgby
Profile Joined March 2008
Canada3923 Posts
August 29 2017 03:05 GMT
#9
damn bloodbath lolz, gonna be brutal. GL!
savior did nothing wrong
739
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29903 Posts
August 29 2017 08:48 GMT
#10
It has to be less than 1400 MMR?

What if someone has 1700 MMR but with 7-3 stats? That's only 10 games played, can I sign in or not really?
WriterSalty oldboy that loves memes | One and only back-to-back Liquibet Winner
vaL4r
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany240 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-08-29 09:18:34
August 29 2017 09:10 GMT
#11
On August 29 2017 17:48 739 wrote:
It has to be less than 1400 MMR?

(..)


to enter at least one of the accounts linked to the b.net ID you signed up with must have 20 or more ladder games played and all of them have to be below 1400 MMR when you sign up.

an exception can be made if say: your main account is 40W/35L and 1300MMR and you have another account with 1500MMR but it only has 4 games on it 2W/2L. In that case I would let you enter.

On August 29 2017 17:48 739 wrote:
(..)

What if someone has 1700 MMR but with 7-3 stats? That's only 10 games played, can I sign in or not really?


In this specific case the answer is: No. The 7-3 account is too highly rated. It also doesn't have enough games on it. Even if it was 9-10 with 1200 MMR - you need at least 20 ladder games played on a single account.
You need to play starcraft with a light heart. If you play with a heavy heart, you can't win. -NaDa
oDieN[Siege]
Profile Joined November 2009
United States2904 Posts
August 29 2017 09:29 GMT
#12
On August 29 2017 18:10 vaL4r wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2017 17:48 739 wrote:
It has to be less than 1400 MMR?

(..)


to enter at least one of the accounts linked to the b.net ID you signed up with must have 20 or more ladder games played and all of them have to be below 1400 MMR when you sign up.

an exception can be made if say: your main account is 40W/35L and 1300MMR and you have another account with 1500MMR but it only has 4 games on it 2W/2L. In that case I would let you enter.

Show nested quote +
On August 29 2017 17:48 739 wrote:
(..)

What if someone has 1700 MMR but with 7-3 stats? That's only 10 games played, can I sign in or not really?


In this specific case the answer is: No. The 7-3 account is too highly rated. It also doesn't have enough games on it. Even if it was 9-10 with 1200 MMR - you need at least 20 ladder games played on a single account.

I think if someone has a record of 40-35 with 85+ games played total, I wouldn't consider them a "Beginner" no longer.

on a more serious note, sounds like fun tho! hope someone will be able to stream the bloodbath matches.
말크 : ^_^~ NeO)GabuAt, vGODieN
739
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29903 Posts
August 29 2017 09:31 GMT
#13
On August 29 2017 18:10 vaL4r wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2017 17:48 739 wrote:
It has to be less than 1400 MMR?

(..)


to enter at least one of the accounts linked to the b.net ID you signed up with must have 20 or more ladder games played and all of them have to be below 1400 MMR when you sign up.

an exception can be made if say: your main account is 40W/35L and 1300MMR and you have another account with 1500MMR but it only has 4 games on it 2W/2L. In that case I would let you enter.

Show nested quote +
On August 29 2017 17:48 739 wrote:
(..)

What if someone has 1700 MMR but with 7-3 stats? That's only 10 games played, can I sign in or not really?


In this specific case the answer is: No. The 7-3 account is too highly rated. It also doesn't have enough games on it. Even if it was 9-10 with 1200 MMR - you need at least 20 ladder games played on a single account.

That's why I've asked. I wanted to avoid a situation of me playing 10 more ladder games and dropping to 1200-1300MMR on purpose

GL HF with your tourney !
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vaL4r
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany240 Posts
August 30 2017 03:53 GMT
#14
Udate: change date!

tournament pushed back one week to september 9, 2017

it seems there is a lot going on this weekend and only 1 person signed up.

However: it is certainly happening next week, if there is still only 1 entrant in a week -> free prize money for top 3!
You need to play starcraft with a light heart. If you play with a heavy heart, you can't win. -NaDa
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10151 Posts
August 30 2017 04:23 GMT
#15
On August 29 2017 18:29 oDieN[Siege] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2017 18:10 vaL4r wrote:
On August 29 2017 17:48 739 wrote:
It has to be less than 1400 MMR?

(..)


to enter at least one of the accounts linked to the b.net ID you signed up with must have 20 or more ladder games played and all of them have to be below 1400 MMR when you sign up.

an exception can be made if say: your main account is 40W/35L and 1300MMR and you have another account with 1500MMR but it only has 4 games on it 2W/2L. In that case I would let you enter.

On August 29 2017 17:48 739 wrote:
(..)

What if someone has 1700 MMR but with 7-3 stats? That's only 10 games played, can I sign in or not really?


In this specific case the answer is: No. The 7-3 account is too highly rated. It also doesn't have enough games on it. Even if it was 9-10 with 1200 MMR - you need at least 20 ladder games played on a single account.

I think if someone has a record of 40-35 with 85+ games played total, I wouldn't consider them a "Beginner" no longer.

on a more serious note, sounds like fun tho! hope someone will be able to stream the bloodbath matches.

All of the players that have signed up for valar's tournaments in the past have played hundreds of games of BW, from what I know, so this is not really applicable logic.
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
oDieN[Siege]
Profile Joined November 2009
United States2904 Posts
August 30 2017 19:35 GMT
#16
On August 30 2017 13:23 Jealous wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2017 18:29 oDieN[Siege] wrote:
On August 29 2017 18:10 vaL4r wrote:
On August 29 2017 17:48 739 wrote:
It has to be less than 1400 MMR?

(..)


to enter at least one of the accounts linked to the b.net ID you signed up with must have 20 or more ladder games played and all of them have to be below 1400 MMR when you sign up.

an exception can be made if say: your main account is 40W/35L and 1300MMR and you have another account with 1500MMR but it only has 4 games on it 2W/2L. In that case I would let you enter.

On August 29 2017 17:48 739 wrote:
(..)

What if someone has 1700 MMR but with 7-3 stats? That's only 10 games played, can I sign in or not really?


In this specific case the answer is: No. The 7-3 account is too highly rated. It also doesn't have enough games on it. Even if it was 9-10 with 1200 MMR - you need at least 20 ladder games played on a single account.

I think if someone has a record of 40-35 with 85+ games played total, I wouldn't consider them a "Beginner" no longer.

on a more serious note, sounds like fun tho! hope someone will be able to stream the bloodbath matches.

All of the players that have signed up for valar's tournaments in the past have played hundreds of games of BW, from what I know, so this is not really applicable logic.

What's not to get? Read what and who I was responding to. Simply saying that if someone had a record of 40W/35L ( as stated above) but has naother account with 1500MR but with a record of 2W/2L, they would still be able to enter? I wouldn't consider them a beginner anymore. I can just see people smurfing into this
말크 : ^_^~ NeO)GabuAt, vGODieN
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10151 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-08-30 20:02:52
August 30 2017 20:01 GMT
#17
On August 31 2017 04:35 oDieN[Siege] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2017 13:23 Jealous wrote:
On August 29 2017 18:29 oDieN[Siege] wrote:
On August 29 2017 18:10 vaL4r wrote:
On August 29 2017 17:48 739 wrote:
It has to be less than 1400 MMR?

(..)


to enter at least one of the accounts linked to the b.net ID you signed up with must have 20 or more ladder games played and all of them have to be below 1400 MMR when you sign up.

an exception can be made if say: your main account is 40W/35L and 1300MMR and you have another account with 1500MMR but it only has 4 games on it 2W/2L. In that case I would let you enter.

On August 29 2017 17:48 739 wrote:
(..)

What if someone has 1700 MMR but with 7-3 stats? That's only 10 games played, can I sign in or not really?


In this specific case the answer is: No. The 7-3 account is too highly rated. It also doesn't have enough games on it. Even if it was 9-10 with 1200 MMR - you need at least 20 ladder games played on a single account.

I think if someone has a record of 40-35 with 85+ games played total, I wouldn't consider them a "Beginner" no longer.

on a more serious note, sounds like fun tho! hope someone will be able to stream the bloodbath matches.

All of the players that have signed up for valar's tournaments in the past have played hundreds of games of BW, from what I know, so this is not really applicable logic.

What's not to get? Read what and who I was responding to. Simply saying that if someone had a record of 40W/35L ( as stated above) but has naother account with 1500MR but with a record of 2W/2L, they would still be able to enter? I wouldn't consider them a beginner anymore. I can just see people smurfing into this

You changed the premise of your argument, the one I was responding to. This is called a strawman.

People smurf. It happens. They get booted. Nothing new. If someone goes through the trouble of making a 20 game sub 1400 ladder account then lol.
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
oDieN[Siege]
Profile Joined November 2009
United States2904 Posts
August 30 2017 20:23 GMT
#18
On August 31 2017 05:01 Jealous wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2017 04:35 oDieN[Siege] wrote:
On August 30 2017 13:23 Jealous wrote:
On August 29 2017 18:29 oDieN[Siege] wrote:
On August 29 2017 18:10 vaL4r wrote:
On August 29 2017 17:48 739 wrote:
It has to be less than 1400 MMR?

(..)


to enter at least one of the accounts linked to the b.net ID you signed up with must have 20 or more ladder games played and all of them have to be below 1400 MMR when you sign up.

an exception can be made if say: your main account is 40W/35L and 1300MMR and you have another account with 1500MMR but it only has 4 games on it 2W/2L. In that case I would let you enter.

On August 29 2017 17:48 739 wrote:
(..)

What if someone has 1700 MMR but with 7-3 stats? That's only 10 games played, can I sign in or not really?


In this specific case the answer is: No. The 7-3 account is too highly rated. It also doesn't have enough games on it. Even if it was 9-10 with 1200 MMR - you need at least 20 ladder games played on a single account.

I think if someone has a record of 40-35 with 85+ games played total, I wouldn't consider them a "Beginner" no longer.

on a more serious note, sounds like fun tho! hope someone will be able to stream the bloodbath matches.

All of the players that have signed up for valar's tournaments in the past have played hundreds of games of BW, from what I know, so this is not really applicable logic.

What's not to get? Read what and who I was responding to. Simply saying that if someone had a record of 40W/35L ( as stated above) but has naother account with 1500MR but with a record of 2W/2L, they would still be able to enter? I wouldn't consider them a beginner anymore. I can just see people smurfing into this

You changed the premise of your argument, the one I was responding to. This is called a strawman.

People smurf. It happens. They get booted. Nothing new. If someone goes through the trouble of making a 20 game sub 1400 ladder account then lol.

lol, when all else fails.. use the strawman card.

OP goodluck with the tournament! would be cool to see someone cast this just for the funs.
말크 : ^_^~ NeO)GabuAt, vGODieN
[AS]Rattus
Profile Joined March 2017
427 Posts
August 31 2017 16:11 GMT
#19
nice idea for a tournament, i will tell my "students" to play some ranked games so they qualify ^^
Jonoman92
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
United States9103 Posts
August 31 2017 23:55 GMT
#20
I always think it's a bit risky having a newbie tournament with a prize pool but gl.

Having it be a weekly thing and getting pts for placing every week and having a payout at the end of a "season" or something might be good? But anyway, it's your or whoever's money, and definitely support the idea of a tournament for newer/lower level players.
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