I've seen absolutely horrible players with 300 apm so I don't agree that this would be a good metric.

You could play with 40 apm and be well above 1400 mmr.

Exception shouldn't be the rules ... horrible player with 300 apm? C'mon ... nevrotic spammer maybe!

earob

14 Posts

September 09 2017 10:57 GMT

#42

On September 09 2017 16:20 vaL4r wrote:

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Yes the Beginner Club has already hosted 2 small "Intermediate" level tournaments in preparation for this.

Im also interested me an Intermediate tournament. Where can I get info?

I started wit BW ~4months ago and reache max 1800points on ladder.

[AS]Rattus

427 Posts

September 09 2017 20:02 GMT

#43

maybe stream in 720p next time? was unwatchable for me, sadly, since it kept buffering

EDIT: After watching a bit of the archived stream. I can say, that this tournament is amazing.
For future tournaments though, please dont zoom out all the time.
Edit2: And the casters should try to keep a positive attitude for more than one game.

scvs

Peru19 Posts

September 10 2017 01:59 GMT

#44

gogogogo I want to play too

vaL4r

Germany240 Posts

September 11 2017 00:44 GMT

#45

Tournament done! The recording is up on youtube and can be viewed > here! <

I've also uploaded a replay pack with all available replays here .
Replay pack with a spoilerfree folder structure is also available here .

On September 10 2017 05:02 [AS]Rattus wrote:
maybe stream in 720p next time? was unwatchable for me, sadly, since it kept buffering

EDIT: After watching a bit of the archived stream. I can say, that this tournament is amazing.
For future tournaments though, please dont zoom out all the time.
Edit2: And the casters should try to keep a positive attitude for more than one game.

The twitch channel didn't have the usual quality options because it had not been active - so everyone was forced to watch the super high quality 60 fps stream. It was smooth for people with a good internet connection.

Casting is hard okay.. I think the commentary was super enjoyable!! For future tournaments, I'm thinking there should be more casters and a schedule so no one has to go through the ordeal of talking for 5+ hours straight.

You're right about the zoom levels! It was the first time for our observer and he was just figuring things out

On September 09 2017 19:57 earob wrote:
Im also interested me an Intermediate tournament. Where can I get info?

I will be posting it in the Brood War > Tourneys section of teamliquid.

Alternatively you could come join the Beginner Club discord, any tournaments hosted by us are also announced in an anouncement channel there.

Greth

Belgium318 Posts

September 11 2017 11:48 GMT

#46

On September 10 2017 05:02 [AS]Rattus wrote:

Edit2: And the casters should try to keep a positive attitude for more than one game.

We were very positive actually. But you can't carry a cast of a newbie tourney on analysis. You either point out mistakes or you ignore them - if you ignore them, you create a false narrative. If you keep summing up the mistakes then that will be all you are doing for the whole thing.

We casted with a sense of levity and for the most part encouragement. We weren't angry, we weren't putting the players down - the situations they find themselves in were funny and it is important to see it as such.

Learning brood war is all about losing in a thousand ways, because of a thousand harrowing mistakes. To quote from my vidrep thread:

It might sound weird, but it's important to make light of the situation. I think, historically, I've been the only one to show the way BW is played by 99% of the player population. It's important to show what kind of game the 'real people' are playing.
A lot of the C and beyond players are far too serious about this game, there is no relief from the constant drive for competition that only very few people will have.
It's important to find those players and help them satisfy their need to get better, but for all the other players it's first important to learn to be at ease with being bad at having fun with the game.
Being serious and competitive about BW full-time will eventually destroy you. The levity of the casual side is important

If the players themselves can't find the humour, can't find the (god forbid) fun in the process they are going through ... Then chances are they aren't going to stick around for long anyway.

charcute

Canada419 Posts

November 01 2017 04:04 GMT

#47

Hey guys,

I loved the last tournament . Do you expect to do another beginner tournament? I'm stuck into 1200-1300 mmr and i'd like to do another tournament ( no need for money IMO).

vaL4r

Germany240 Posts

November 21 2017 03:02 GMT

#48

On November 01 2017 13:04 charcute wrote:
Hey guys,

I loved the last tournament . Do you expect to do another beginner tournament? I'm stuck into 1200-1300 mmr and i'd like to do another tournament ( no need for money IMO).

Oh hi, sorry I've not been checking TL.

I want to continue running tournaments but I'm pretty taxed in terms of money, time, and energy at the moment - as I'm in the process of moving. Right now I'm thinking we should be back sometime in december~