On May 28 2017 20:56 sAw wrote: This is painful to watch
BW is reviving but the current top level would not even qualify for the starleagues of the peak period.
That's not true, today's level is definitely higher. And actually I'm so impressed by Shine, that I feel we'll have a fantastic finals! And also very nice 3rd place match.
On May 28 2017 21:02 d(O.o)a wrote: I'm expecting to see some ensnare out of Shine
On May 28 2017 20:56 sAw wrote: This is painful to watch
BW is reviving but the current top level would not even qualify for the starleagues of the peak period.
uwotm8 lmfao
This is almost as stupid as the people that say the 2009-2011 foreign pros couldn't compete nowadays.
He is not particularly wrong. Consider that observer of that series is the one who is going to play Flash next week.
How is that relevant in any way? Does observing promatches somehow make him less qualified to play in them? Shine was a pro in that era too btw and he plays FAR better than he did back then.
I'm sure Jaedong was observing that match from home, does that make him less of a competitor?
On May 28 2017 21:04 gngfn wrote: I think that the skill level is as high as ever, but there seems to be a lot of choking onstage, possibly because without Proleague and two individual leagues players just spend less time playing in front of live crowds and aren't as used to it.
On May 28 2017 20:56 sAw wrote: This is painful to watch
BW is reviving but the current top level would not even qualify for the starleagues of the peak period.
That's not true, today's level is definitely higher. And actually I'm so impressed by Shine, that I feel we'll have a fantastic finals! And also very nice 3rd place match.
Sea and Mong have also improved tremendously. Sea from the past would never have been able to 3-0 Bisu.
On May 28 2017 20:56 d(O.o)a wrote: That would've been so much scarier if soulkey had morphed them all on the space ground where rines couldn't hit them.
To be honest I still don't understand how pros make little mistakes like these that constantly cost them the game.
Same here.
Its cause Brood War is very very hard, even the pros are always making mistakes, I cant think of one game where they haven't made mistakes.
On May 28 2017 20:56 d(O.o)a wrote: That would've been so much scarier if soulkey had morphed them all on the space ground where rines couldn't hit them.
To be honest I still don't understand how pros make little mistakes like these that constantly cost them the game.
I know! I dont understand why zergs does that. It happens often.
ever heard of pressure humans aren't robots you know
But i dont understand why they morph them in shooting distance of marines. Do you? I have a lot of respect for pressure and the players, but this one seems so easy. You just move them a little to the left to safety. When this stuff keeps happening you would imagine these great players making mental notes to remember and not let pressure get to them. Its not like forgetting an upgrade or something, because that is a mistake you are not expecting to make. This one is.
On May 28 2017 20:56 d(O.o)a wrote: That would've been so much scarier if soulkey had morphed them all on the space ground where rines couldn't hit them.
To be honest I still don't understand how pros make little mistakes like these that constantly cost them the game.
I know! I dont understand why zergs does that. It happens often.
ever heard of pressure humans aren't robots you know
But i dont understand why they morph them in shooting distance of marines. Do you? I have a lot of respect for pressure and the players, but this one seems so easy. You just move them a little to the left to safety. When this stuff keeps happening you would imagine these great players making mental notes to remember and not let pressure get to them. Its not like forgetting an upgrade or something, because that is a mistake you are not expecting to make. This one is.
because under pressure, you forget things. have you ever forgotten things while trying to rush to work or going somewhere?
this game is so intense, you will make small mistakes. it cost him.
On May 28 2017 20:56 d(O.o)a wrote: That would've been so much scarier if soulkey had morphed them all on the space ground where rines couldn't hit them.
To be honest I still don't understand how pros make little mistakes like these that constantly cost them the game.
I know! I dont understand why zergs does that. It happens often.
ever heard of pressure humans aren't robots you know
But i dont understand why they morph them in shooting distance of marines. Do you? I have a lot of respect for pressure and the players, but this one seems so easy. You just move them a little to the left to safety. When this stuff keeps happening you would imagine these great players making mental notes to remember and not let pressure get to them. Its not like forgetting an upgrade or something, because that is a mistake you are not expecting to make. This one is.
because under pressure, you forget things. have you ever forgotten things while trying to rush to work or going somewhere?
this game is so intense, you will make small mistakes. it cost him.
And that is why i say its ok to forget stuff like you upgrades and shit when under pressure. But this is so fucking obvious and integral to your entire gameplan. AND its a mistake they keep on repeating. If you kept on forgetting to plant your third base after sending a drone to the third base location. You would expect that thats a mistake you would not keep happening right? All you have to do is make a mental note that every time i'm going to morph guardians, i morph them in a spot were they are not going to be hit by marines, especially when that spot is easy to reach. You dont make mental notes about all the other thousands things that can go wrong, because you have to trust you brain to remeber that. But those guardians are the most important thing in his strategy.
Shine has really been impressive and fun to watch lately, I really hope he can rise up to the challenge so we all can enjoy an epic finals. I know most people see Shine as a "meme" player, but he has proven us all wrong time and time again. One way or the other, I expect the finals won't last very long. Shine will probably tend to avoid late game, surely he will have some cute builds and tricks prepared (ensnare, infested cc, who knows?), but to hide something successfully from Flash is another problem altogether.
On topic, Soulkey put up a very good fight today, not many players can take Flash to game 5. I still feel we haven't seen the peak of SK's play, he has a lot of potential. One of my favourite Zergs, that's for sure. <3
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