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EsportsJohn
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States4883 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-05-18 09:54:28
May 18 2017 07:46 GMT
#1

SSL Classic Season 1


Thursday, May 18 10:00am GMT (GMT+00:00)


(Wiki)SSL Classic Season 1


Casters & Hosts


RaPiD | Wolf


Streams


Korean YouTube Stream
English YouTube Stream


Matchups and Maps



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(T)Mind              (P)free

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(P)Rain              (Z)herO

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(Z)Soulkey              (T)sSak

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(T)Light              (Z)effOrt





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+ Show Spoiler [Mind vs free] +
Poll: Recommend Mind vs free?

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80%

No (1)
 
20%

If you have time (0)
 
0%

5 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Mind vs free?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time


+ Show Spoiler [Rain vs herO] +
Poll: Recommend Rain vs herO?

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100%

No (0)
 
0%

If you have time (0)
 
0%

1 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Rain vs herO?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time


+ Show Spoiler [Soulkey vs sSak] +
Poll: Recommend Soulkey vs sSak?

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50%

No (1)
 
50%

If you have time (0)
 
0%

2 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Soulkey vs sSak?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time


+ Show Spoiler [Light vs effOrt] +
Poll: Recommend Light vs effOrt?

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50%

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50%

If you have time (0)
 
0%

2 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Light vs effOrt?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time





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Bonyth
Profile Joined August 2010
Poland582 Posts
May 18 2017 07:48 GMT
#2
May 18th* so the timer works as it should :D
EsportsJohn
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States4883 Posts
May 18 2017 08:09 GMT
#3
Yeah, sorry, myb. Fixing it now.
StrategyAllyssa Grey <3<3
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50584 Posts
May 18 2017 08:57 GMT
#4
also ssak is terran and not zerg.

speaking of which, is he playing today or has he left the country?
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
atrox_
Profile Joined November 2010
United Kingdom1711 Posts
May 18 2017 10:02 GMT
#5
On May 18 2017 17:57 BLinD-RawR wrote:
also ssak is terran and not zerg.

speaking of which, is he playing today or has he left the country?


Rumour has it he's not playing today, so, I guess he's gone
TT1
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada10011 Posts
May 18 2017 10:04 GMT
#6
wtf lol
ab = tl(i) + tl(pc), the grand answer to every tl.net debate
mdb
Profile Blog Joined February 2003
Bulgaria4059 Posts
May 18 2017 10:07 GMT
#7
who are the english commentators?
ByuuN
Profile Joined November 2016
Poland678 Posts
May 18 2017 10:08 GMT
#8
Rofl Soulkey gets another free win
TheNewEra
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany3128 Posts
May 18 2017 10:11 GMT
#9
On May 18 2017 19:02 atrox_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 18 2017 17:57 BLinD-RawR wrote:
also ssak is terran and not zerg.

speaking of which, is he playing today or has he left the country?


Rumour has it he's not playing today, so, I guess he's gone

Didn't K.H.J. already confirm this 2 days or so ago?
Midas <3 Casy <3 BeSt <3 | Pray to Doh-men, heathens! | Zwischen Harz und Heideland
atrox_
Profile Joined November 2010
United Kingdom1711 Posts
May 18 2017 10:15 GMT
#10
On May 18 2017 19:11 TheNewEra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 18 2017 19:02 atrox_ wrote:
On May 18 2017 17:57 BLinD-RawR wrote:
also ssak is terran and not zerg.

speaking of which, is he playing today or has he left the country?


Rumour has it he's not playing today, so, I guess he's gone

Didn't K.H.J. already confirm this 2 days or so ago?


no idea, don't read every post on here
nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15845 Posts
May 18 2017 10:25 GMT
#11
That was a lot of units lost from free to only kill minerals units.
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
ortseam
Profile Joined April 2015
996 Posts
May 18 2017 10:27 GMT
#12
Free channelling Jaehoon
TT1
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada10011 Posts
May 18 2017 10:27 GMT
#13
. . . .
ab = tl(i) + tl(pc), the grand answer to every tl.net debate
nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15845 Posts
May 18 2017 10:34 GMT
#14
This vulture did it! Taking nexus like a crackling!
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
CUTtheCBC
Profile Joined December 2016
Canada91 Posts
May 18 2017 10:36 GMT
#15
why doesnt TL link to it in the sidebar?? so hard to find this shit..
Brood War's Back, YEA!
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50584 Posts
May 18 2017 10:38 GMT
#16
On May 18 2017 19:36 CUTtheCBC wrote:
why doesnt TL link to it in the sidebar?? so hard to find this shit..


because youtube streams don't have sidebar support on TL, understandable since theres a different link for every live stream.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
ByuuN
Profile Joined November 2016
Poland678 Posts
May 18 2017 10:39 GMT
#17
Great recalls.
nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15845 Posts
May 18 2017 10:39 GMT
#18
This game is so sloppy from both players.
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
Wonk
Profile Joined March 2017
546 Posts
May 18 2017 10:42 GMT
#19
That was definitely the best game of the whole SSL so far! Can't believe that recall was so sucessful for Free.

I'm so glad to see a game go to 30 minutes rather than 5-10 minute rushes.
TT1
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada10011 Posts
May 18 2017 10:43 GMT
#20
On May 18 2017 19:39 nojok wrote:
This game is so sloppy from both players.


agreed

free could have killed at least 12 unsieged tanks (with no mine or vult support) at his 3 oclock expo towards the end of the game.. but he didnt notice them even when he had an arb on top of the tanks.
ab = tl(i) + tl(pc), the grand answer to every tl.net debate
nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15845 Posts
May 18 2017 10:48 GMT
#21
Yeah, mind also put too much tanks in the bottom right and never properly established the 9 o'clock expansion, free took ages to land a recall despite multiple good opportunites etc etc

I prefer a well executed rush than a sloppy macro game.
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
tanngard
Profile Joined April 2011
Norway1325 Posts
May 18 2017 10:50 GMT
#22
On May 18 2017 19:39 nojok wrote:
This game is so sloppy from both players.

I think most people enjoyed that game. You say they play sloppy, yet you should know that playing BW perfectly is extremely difficult.

Just enjoy a game that was back and forth and long?
ShloobeR
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Korea (South)3819 Posts
May 18 2017 11:07 GMT
#23
This game vs Light probably irrelevant for Effort's standings after Mind lost
whoever wins the Mind-Effort game next week will probably take 1st
: o )
EsportsJohn
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States4883 Posts
May 18 2017 11:08 GMT
#24
Good game from herO. Rain played excellently too, but I think the lack of archons really killed him in the latter fights. Nice to herO playing well again.
StrategyAllyssa Grey <3<3
nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15845 Posts
May 18 2017 11:11 GMT
#25
On May 18 2017 20:08 EsportsJohn wrote:
Good game from herO. Rain played excellently too, but I think the lack of archons really killed him in the latter fights. Nice to herO playing well again.

Yeah, the hydra push delayed the 3rd too long and then hero could afford to lose a fair chunk of army to snipe the templars and end it with the next wave.
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
Vivi57
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States6599 Posts
May 18 2017 11:22 GMT
#26
This is great. Zergs are starting to scout earlier more often and are taking advantage of the information they get to adjust their builds. Maybe that's the way they will defeat 5rax.
Flash hwaiting! Nal_rA forever!
nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15845 Posts
May 18 2017 11:26 GMT
#27
Brutal surround.
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
c3rberUs
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Japan11286 Posts
May 18 2017 11:27 GMT
#28
bio got rekt in the corner
WriterMovie, 진영화 : "StarCraft will never die".
c3rberUs
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Japan11286 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-05-18 11:32:21
May 18 2017 11:31 GMT
#29
lol this action at the top left

both players pouring every newly macro'd unit

Light trying to power through with firebats (fbh must be proud)
WriterMovie, 진영화 : "StarCraft will never die".
c3rberUs
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Japan11286 Posts
May 18 2017 11:42 GMT
#30
Light fought a losing battle with EffOrt just everywhere GG
WriterMovie, 진영화 : "StarCraft will never die".
[sc1f]eonzerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Belgium6737 Posts
May 18 2017 11:43 GMT
#31
Effort so good !!!
EsportsJohn
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States4883 Posts
May 18 2017 12:13 GMT
#32
In my opinion, the new wave of mid game aggression and emphasis on SCV scout denial by Zergs is a great counter to the +1 5rax. Unless Terran players start cutting for quicker drops, I think we're going to see a return to 3rax/fact again since it's a bit more flexible.

Still, great game by effOrt. For a second there, it looked like Light might actually be able to break the 11, but effOrt stayed on top of his macro and got just enough units to fend off the attack and stabilize. I think the other key moment was effOrt picking off that group of mnm in the middle of the map; because of that, Light had to remake a lot of units, put up bunkers, and delay his drops.
StrategyAllyssa Grey <3<3
Colouss
Profile Joined November 2013
United States501 Posts
May 18 2017 12:34 GMT
#33
wait, what happened to Ssak? I'm out of the loop and I'd like to know.
Chinese teams flair when
TheNewEra
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany3128 Posts
May 18 2017 12:59 GMT
#34
On May 18 2017 21:34 Colouss wrote:
wait, what happened to Ssak? I'm out of the loop and I'd like to know.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/brood-war/466030-afreeca-feed?page=92#1832
Midas <3 Casy <3 BeSt <3 | Pray to Doh-men, heathens! | Zwischen Harz und Heideland
Wonk
Profile Joined March 2017
546 Posts
May 18 2017 13:00 GMT
#35
I was watching the games a bit late so I lost half of that last game when they decided to cut the stream, but they've only uploaded the VODs of the korean version so I can't see the rest of it. Does anybody have a VOD of the english cast?
Colouss
Profile Joined November 2013
United States501 Posts
May 18 2017 13:00 GMT
#36
On May 18 2017 21:59 TheNewEra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 18 2017 21:34 Colouss wrote:
wait, what happened to Ssak? I'm out of the loop and I'd like to know.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/brood-war/466030-afreeca-feed?page=92#1832


Ah, thank you. I don't really follow the BW scene much so this was much appreciated
Chinese teams flair when
ortseam
Profile Joined April 2015
996 Posts
May 18 2017 13:39 GMT
#37
On May 18 2017 22:00 Wonk wrote:
I was watching the games a bit late so I lost half of that last game when they decided to cut the stream, but they've only uploaded the VODs of the korean version so I can't see the rest of it. Does anybody have a VOD of the english cast?

They usually upload the english VODs a bit later in the eSports Global channel, should be up in a few hours
ortseam
Profile Joined April 2015
996 Posts
May 18 2017 13:55 GMT
#38
On May 18 2017 21:13 EsportsJohn wrote:
In my opinion, the new wave of mid game aggression and emphasis on SCV scout denial by Zergs is a great counter to the +1 5rax. Unless Terran players start cutting for quicker drops, I think we're going to see a return to 3rax/fact again since it's a bit more flexible.

Yeah, Effort's spire was really late but just in time for the dropship. Last usually follows up with 2 star which forces the 5rax marines into the zergs bases, Light kinda tried to brute force his way (which made sense since Effort wasted all his lurkers just before defiler, ah Effort)

On May 18 2017 20:08 EsportsJohn wrote:
Good game from herO. Rain played excellently too, but I think the lack of archons really killed him in the latter fights. Nice to herO playing well again.

The main two options after the original hydra wave are: aggressive 3 base play (usually with muta switch to snipe templars), or 4 base hive transition. Rain prepared for the 1st option (adding sairs and delaying 3rd a lot), while Hero went for the 2nd. Had the sairs scouted bottom left , then Rain could have changed his strategy and put up a fight.
Burned Toast *
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Canada2040 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-05-18 15:51:38
May 18 2017 15:51 GMT
#39
On May 18 2017 22:00 Wonk wrote:
I was watching the games a bit late so I lost half of that last game when they decided to cut the stream, but they've only uploaded the VODs of the korean version so I can't see the rest of it. Does anybody have a VOD of the english cast?

You should always check the Small VOD thread. A maniac is usually putting both korean and english links within a few hours after every match...
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TheNewEra
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany3128 Posts
May 18 2017 16:07 GMT
#40
On May 19 2017 00:51 Burned Toast wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 18 2017 22:00 Wonk wrote:
I was watching the games a bit late so I lost half of that last game when they decided to cut the stream, but they've only uploaded the VODs of the korean version so I can't see the rest of it. Does anybody have a VOD of the english cast?

You should always check the Small VOD thread. A maniac is usually putting both korean and english links within a few hours after every match...

that guy is doing god's work
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wabe.PrayHard
Profile Joined October 2011
Bolivia45 Posts
May 18 2017 19:56 GMT
#41
On May 18 2017 22:55 ortseam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 18 2017 20:08 EsportsJohn wrote:
Good game from herO. Rain played excellently too, but I think the lack of archons really killed him in the latter fights. Nice to herO playing well again.

The main two options after the original hydra wave are: aggressive 3 base play (usually with muta switch to snipe templars), or 4 base hive transition. Rain prepared for the 1st option (adding sairs and delaying 3rd a lot), while Hero went for the 2nd. Had the sairs scouted bottom left , then Rain could have changed his strategy and put up a fight.


So much knowledge! thank you guys! I believe Rain backing while throwing storms was really good, sadly HT energy doesn't last much.
Also I think the shuttle at first could have passed the hydras and kill some drones, those drops need to be done.
Overall Hero's game was solid.
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wabe.PrayHard
Profile Joined October 2011
Bolivia45 Posts
May 18 2017 20:12 GMT
#42
On May 18 2017 22:00 Colouss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 18 2017 21:59 TheNewEra wrote:
On May 18 2017 21:34 Colouss wrote:
wait, what happened to Ssak? I'm out of the loop and I'd like to know.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/brood-war/466030-afreeca-feed?page=92#1832


Ah, thank you. I don't really follow the BW scene much so this was much appreciated


I didn't know this was going on, so sSak is not playing anymore at SSL?
the force is in prayer
AndAgain
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2621 Posts
May 18 2017 20:49 GMT
#43
On Liquidpedia it says that qualification to this tourney was based on fan voting. Why didn't more popular players make it in?
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Wonk
Profile Joined March 2017
546 Posts
May 18 2017 23:56 GMT
#44
On May 19 2017 00:51 Burned Toast wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 18 2017 22:00 Wonk wrote:
I was watching the games a bit late so I lost half of that last game when they decided to cut the stream, but they've only uploaded the VODs of the korean version so I can't see the rest of it. Does anybody have a VOD of the english cast?

You should always check the Small VOD thread. A maniac is usually putting both korean and english links within a few hours after every match...



Thanks a lot! I'll check that out.
TheNewEra
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany3128 Posts
May 19 2017 00:26 GMT
#45
On May 19 2017 05:49 AndAgain wrote:
On Liquidpedia it says that qualification to this tourney was based on fan voting. Why didn't more popular players make it in?

Players like Flash, JD, and co. didn't want to participate
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